MP3 interview with security expert Bruce Schneier

Amazing interview (available as a text transcript or audio file) with security guru Bruce Schneier, who really should be hired to run Homeland Security.

Doug Kaye: Now a recurring concept in your book is probably typified by this example: "A terrorist who wants to create havoc will not be deterred by airline security; he will simply switch to another attack and bomb a shopping mall."

Bruce Schneier: This is, I think, really important.  I just did a hearing two days ago on Capitol Hill about CAPS II, about airline profiling, and one of the things I'm always struck with is how good we are at defending against what the terrorists did last year.  We're spending a lot of money shoring up our airlines, we're now talking about shoring up trains. And money that we spend that simply causes the bad guys to change their tactics is money wasted. 

You have a red and a blue door, and the terrorists go through the red door, and you say, "We must secure the red door," so they go through the blue door the next time.  What did you actually buy? 

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