This is the one interview I hope everyone will hear. Security guru Bruce Schneier goes beyond cryptography and network security to challenge our post-9/11 national security practices.
* "Homeland security measures are an enormous waste of money."
* "If the goal of security is to protect against yesterday's attacks, we're really good at it."
* "More people are killed every year by pigs than by sharks, which shows you how good we are at evaluating risk."
* "...people make bad security trade-offs when they're scared."
Recorded a year ago, our listeners agree: This is one of our best.