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"More people are killed every year by pigs than by sharks" -- MP3 interview with Bruce Schneier

Mark Frauenfelder at 10:55 am Sat, Apr 30, 2005

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ITConversations is a terrific source of audio interviews with tech folks. In the latest ITC email newsletter, producer Doug Kaye said that his interview last year with security consultant and author Bruce Schneier is one of his all-time favorites.
This is the one interview I hope everyone will hear. Security guru Bruce Schneier goes beyond cryptography and network security to challenge our post-9/11 national security practices.

* "Homeland security measures are an enormous waste of money."
* "If the goal of security is to protect against yesterday's attacks, we're really good at it."
* "More people are killed every year by pigs than by sharks, which shows you how good we are at evaluating risk."
* "...people make bad security trade-offs when they're scared."

Recorded a year ago, our listeners agree: This is one of our best.


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Mark Frauenfelder is the founder of Boing Boing and the editor-in-chief of MAKE and Cool Tools. Twitter: @frauenfelder. Come and hear Mark speak at the ALA conference in Chicago on July 1.

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