Inventor says "miracle tube" produces more energy than it consumes


19 Responses to “Inventor says "miracle tube" produces more energy than it consumes”

  1. Anonymous says:

    I’m not sure that this is anything special.

    A conventional heat pump can heat up water at 150 to 200 percent efficiency.

    It is not really generating free energy because the heat energy could not be recovered back into electricity.

  2. Teresa Nielsen Hayden/Moderator says:

    Violation of the law of conservation of energy, check; contains “secret catalyst,” check; is being announced by a company that’s selling units, not by scientists who discovered the process, check. If it’s not a fraud, it’s certainly doing a good imitation of one.

    Here’s the big catch: if you don’t know what that secret ingredient is, you can’t measure the device’s energy inputs and outputs.

    If you have no idea what I’m talking about, here’s a simple demo: grab some powdered laundry detergent and hold it cupped in your hand. Now pour a little trickle of water onto it, just enough to dampen the soap powder.

    Notice how it gets hot?

    There are lots of chemical reactions that release heat. That’s how handwarmer packets and self-heating plasters for sore muscles work. There are chilling reactions too, which is how we get self-chilling emergency sprain relief cold packs.

    If we don’t know what chemicals are contained in this new device, there’s no way we can tell where that supposed extra energy is coming from, and thus can’t tell whether it’s a workable invention.

  3. Anonymous says:

    I’m not sure that this is anything special.

    A conventional heat pump can heat up water at 150 to 200 percent efficiency.

    It is not really generating free energy because the heat energy could not be recovered back into electricity.

  4. outlanderssc says:

    In ten years someone will publish a book claiming the oil companies coerced (or bribed) the guys into stopping development on it.

  5. Tensegrity says:

    Wow, this is silly. It doesn’t require any extravagent explanations of secret ingredients–it’s just some sort of battery or chemical fuel cell.

    “This creates a reaction that releases an incredible amount of energy compared to that put in.” If you don’t count the energy required to make the device or the ingredients, then plenty of things satisfy that equation from a nuclear reactor to a log of wood.

    match + paper + kindling + log = “incredible amount of energy”

    OMGZ! teh invenshunz!

  6. Michael Tatroe says:

    It’s a British firm, clearly the secret ingredient is tea! ;-)

  7. Tensegrity says:

    I’ll bet it is nothing more than an alkaline fuel cell–”aqueous alkaline solution, such as potassium hydroxide (KOH)”

    KOH aka caustic potash

  8. Anonymous says:

    If this truly works it should be used in some way to power vehicles.

  9. Flying Squid says:

    Don’t you people understand? We must end our dependence on snake oil and move on to alternative fuel scams!

  10. Andrew Katz says:

    “…very efficient replacement for a domestic immersion heater…”

    Surely all electric immersion heaters are pretty close to 100% efficient anyway. Or to put it another way, how would you *stop* the energy you put in getting into the water? Where else would it go? You could arrange for it make an extremely loud noise (3kW immersion heater losing 10% efficiency – 300W noise. That would be EXTREMELY loud). Er. You could make it give off light (or any other EM radiation – except that would be absorbed by the walls of the (copper) tank and again turned into heat….I’m really stumped. How the hell would you make an immersion heater that was only, say, 90% efficient…???

    - Andrew

  11. Monkeybaister says:

    At least it doesn’t involve magnets.

  12. Anonymous says:

    It’s worth noting the “qualifications” of the “independent tester” are rather revealing. He’s a member of the British Society of Dowsers; he’s a computer science professor, not an engineer or physicist; he “undertakes research into the Geo- and Bio- Physics of Earth Energies” and his “special research topic is the mechanism of dowsing based on Quantum ideas in Consciousness Studies.”

    In fact, he’s nowhere near the top of the list of people you’d pick to test out any device at all, let alone one that apparently breaks the laws of the known universe.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Maybe it’s just me, but who else thinks “potash” sounds like something the folks over at Cute Overload would call potassium, if given the chance? Just saying…

  14. slawkenbergius says:

    [I]If this is true, then let us hope that yet another great British invention is not lost to this Country and then exploited by foreign corporations and industry.[/I]

    He’s probably thinking about the jet engine, and (arguably) the computer. Not that I’m trying to defend a Mail reader…

  15. devoinregress says:

    I care about how it defies the laws of physics more than how it works. Is this “secret liquid catalyst” a true catalyst or does it deplete over time?

    I am sick of hearing about 100%+ efficient machines with secret elements. Develop it and publicly release everything at once in order for us to take you seriously.

  16. Anonymous says:

    At long last, a use for all that pesky potash and secret catalyst we have lying around!

  17. Flying Squid says:

    @#13: Or the Corby Trouser Press.

  18. Anonymous says:

    I was thinking along the same lines as devoinregress. It is likely that what’s inside that tube just produces an exothermic reaction after initial energy is applied to it. I doubt that it is sustainable indefinitely.

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