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		<title>By: theindependent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27142</link>
		<dc:creator>theindependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m sure most of us would expect a break on a ticket if we were cops. I know I would.

As far as the website goes, we&#039;re only hearing one side of the story, some cops deserve tickets just like anyone else, especially if they exhibit too much &quot;above the law&quot; attitude.&quot;

I&#039;m pretty sure, in the interest of fairness, that I&#039;d ticket my own brother; he&#039;s be less liable to do it again, that&#039;s for sure.

Check this sliver of beauty out: http://www.copswritingcops.com/know.html

To wit: &quot;Hereâ€™s how to get out of a ticket. donâ€™t break the law.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sure most of us would expect a break on a ticket if we were cops. I know I would.</p>
<p>As far as the website goes, we&#8217;re only hearing one side of the story, some cops deserve tickets just like anyone else, especially if they exhibit too much &#8220;above the law&#8221; attitude.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure, in the interest of fairness, that I&#8217;d ticket my own brother; he&#8217;s be less liable to do it again, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p>Check this sliver of beauty out: <a href="http://www.copswritingcops.com/know.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.copswritingcops.com/know.html</a></p>
<p>To wit: &#8220;Hereâ€™s how to get out of a ticket. donâ€™t break the law.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christovir</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27910</link>
		<dc:creator>Christovir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very classic social identity stuff and in-group favouritism straight out of the textbook.  It can be fixed by re-defining the groups (police as a part of the citizenry, rather than apart from - you can tell there is a group division through the language, like when police use the word &quot;civilian&quot; so often) or by creating a strong police group norm against this kind of behaviour.  Both are going in the wrong direction currently, so the results are no surprise.  Unfortunately, derogation of the police will likely only solidify these group divisions and in-group favouritism.


The town I went to college in had two colleges, with most residents supporting either one or the other.  I was once pulled over for a bad headlight, the officer saw my college parking sticker, and strongly hinted that the reason he was letting me off with a warning was because of the particular college I went to.  Many of my friends had similar experiences.

Another time I was pulled over (same bad headlight - was too poor to fix it) I was told I was given a warning rather than a ticket because I had no criminal record.  I was grateful, yes, but it seems profoundly unfair to apply a different standard of law to people who have previously broken it and have served their time.  It seems set up to encourage group divisions (and bitterness and re-offending amongst the outgroup), rather than rehabilitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very classic social identity stuff and in-group favouritism straight out of the textbook.  It can be fixed by re-defining the groups (police as a part of the citizenry, rather than apart from &#8211; you can tell there is a group division through the language, like when police use the word &#8220;civilian&#8221; so often) or by creating a strong police group norm against this kind of behaviour.  Both are going in the wrong direction currently, so the results are no surprise.  Unfortunately, derogation of the police will likely only solidify these group divisions and in-group favouritism.</p>
<p>The town I went to college in had two colleges, with most residents supporting either one or the other.  I was once pulled over for a bad headlight, the officer saw my college parking sticker, and strongly hinted that the reason he was letting me off with a warning was because of the particular college I went to.  Many of my friends had similar experiences.</p>
<p>Another time I was pulled over (same bad headlight &#8211; was too poor to fix it) I was told I was given a warning rather than a ticket because I had no criminal record.  I was grateful, yes, but it seems profoundly unfair to apply a different standard of law to people who have previously broken it and have served their time.  It seems set up to encourage group divisions (and bitterness and re-offending amongst the outgroup), rather than rehabilitation.</p>
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		<title>By: vass</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27911</link>
		<dc:creator>vass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this vague memory of a news item a few years ago where a man failed the entrance IQ test to a state police force (I don&#039;t remember which one) because his IQ tested too *high*.

Their reasoning was that applicants who were too intelligent wouldn&#039;t stay.

Making a site telling the world that you&#039;re a cop breaking the law you&#039;re meant to uphold, with the intention of intimidating cops who *do* uphold said law... reminds me of that news item.

(Can anyone else remember any more details?  Or am I dreaming and/or falling for an urban legend?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this vague memory of a news item a few years ago where a man failed the entrance IQ test to a state police force (I don&#8217;t remember which one) because his IQ tested too *high*.</p>
<p>Their reasoning was that applicants who were too intelligent wouldn&#8217;t stay.</p>
<p>Making a site telling the world that you&#8217;re a cop breaking the law you&#8217;re meant to uphold, with the intention of intimidating cops who *do* uphold said law&#8230; reminds me of that news item.</p>
<p>(Can anyone else remember any more details?  Or am I dreaming and/or falling for an urban legend?)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27154</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Here is great article related to the post.

Seems cops are letting each other off for DUI&#039;s
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/undueinfluence/326612_favors07.html

Also I discovered the bear sticker trick on the back window to alert cops you are one of them.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/undueinfluence/326602_favorsbear07.html
Though the image of the sticker is not showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is great article related to the post.</p>
<p>Seems cops are letting each other off for DUI&#8217;s<br />
<a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/undueinfluence/326612_favors07.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/undueinfluence/326612_favors07.html</a></p>
<p>Also I discovered the bear sticker trick on the back window to alert cops you are one of them.<br />
<a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/undueinfluence/326602_favorsbear07.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/undueinfluence/326602_favorsbear07.html</a><br />
Though the image of the sticker is not showing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27156</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boohoo.  Don&#039;t do the crime if you can&#039;t do the time.  If you don&#039;t want to get a ticket (regardless whether you are a cop or not) then don&#039;t speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boohoo.  Don&#8217;t do the crime if you can&#8217;t do the time.  If you don&#8217;t want to get a ticket (regardless whether you are a cop or not) then don&#8217;t speed.</p>
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		<title>By: Christovir</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27924</link>
		<dc:creator>Christovir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vass

I believe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_56314.html&quot;&gt;this is the story you are talking about.&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E5D7103CF93AA2575AC0A96F958260&quot;&gt;A longer NY Times story here.&lt;/a&gt;

The IQ cut-off is really low, too.  This guy&#039;s IQ was only 125, which translated as 33 out of 50 on the test they were using.  Their cut-off is 27 of 50.  That&#039;s not even one standard deviation above the mean.

Also interesting, the would-be cop was named Robert Jordan.

BTW... IQ is not a very useful measure of &quot;intelligence&quot; unless we choose to define it in very narrow and subjective terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vass</p>
<p>I believe <a href="http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_56314.html">this is the story you are talking about.</a>  <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E5D7103CF93AA2575AC0A96F958260">A longer NY Times story here.</a></p>
<p>The IQ cut-off is really low, too.  This guy&#8217;s IQ was only 125, which translated as 33 out of 50 on the test they were using.  Their cut-off is 27 of 50.  That&#8217;s not even one standard deviation above the mean.</p>
<p>Also interesting, the would-be cop was named Robert Jordan.</p>
<p>BTW&#8230; IQ is not a very useful measure of &#8220;intelligence&#8221; unless we choose to define it in very narrow and subjective terms.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-28693</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police have gang control. What else is new.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27160</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfricking believable.  First, these morons justify their violations by saying they are &quot;trained&quot; professionals (don&#039;t try this at home kiddies).  But, then they expect their untrained spouses, children, etc. to be let off for the same kind of violations?  Effing hypocrites.

My brother in law is one of these morons.  Any excuse to flash his badge and he&#039;ll do it.  His department even makes up miniature badges for the spouses to use as their get out of jail free card.

The &quot;dicks of the month&quot; are the ticketees not the ticketers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfricking believable.  First, these morons justify their violations by saying they are &#8220;trained&#8221; professionals (don&#8217;t try this at home kiddies).  But, then they expect their untrained spouses, children, etc. to be let off for the same kind of violations?  Effing hypocrites.</p>
<p>My brother in law is one of these morons.  Any excuse to flash his badge and he&#8217;ll do it.  His department even makes up miniature badges for the spouses to use as their get out of jail free card.</p>
<p>The &#8220;dicks of the month&#8221; are the ticketees not the ticketers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Inner Space</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-29216</link>
		<dc:creator>Inner Space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous.  In the very first story (&#039;Illinois State Police&#039;) the cop who got ticketed was going so fast he almost could have been cited for reckless driving, not just speeding.  If the cops don&#039;t keep each other in check, there&#039;s not reason for them to follow the laws that they enforce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous.  In the very first story (&#8216;Illinois State Police&#8217;) the cop who got ticketed was going so fast he almost could have been cited for reckless driving, not just speeding.  If the cops don&#8217;t keep each other in check, there&#8217;s not reason for them to follow the laws that they enforce.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27425</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to date a girl who grew up in Indianapolis before she did everything she could at the age of majority to get the heck out of Indianapolis.

Her father had cheated on his wife, dumped his first family, often ignored alimony payments, and - worst of all - sexually abused this poor girl.

He got away with all of this because everyone around him assumed that him being a cop for so many years meant he was going to get away with it. 

He re-married. He had a second family, with daughters.

The girl I knew dropped out and floated around a bit before she checked out of life completely and took to hitchhiking for a living. She became an anarchist, and the last time I saw her I tried to help her understand that her hatred of government was a sublimation of her impotence to her own bad cop father.

There was only so much I could do, you know? It still makes me sick.

The assumption of corruption is a terrible thing. That&#039;s about all I can think about when I&#039;m reading this site about how cops let other cops off because that&#039;s what you&#039;re supposed to do in our &quot;just&quot; society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to date a girl who grew up in Indianapolis before she did everything she could at the age of majority to get the heck out of Indianapolis.</p>
<p>Her father had cheated on his wife, dumped his first family, often ignored alimony payments, and &#8211; worst of all &#8211; sexually abused this poor girl.</p>
<p>He got away with all of this because everyone around him assumed that him being a cop for so many years meant he was going to get away with it. </p>
<p>He re-married. He had a second family, with daughters.</p>
<p>The girl I knew dropped out and floated around a bit before she checked out of life completely and took to hitchhiking for a living. She became an anarchist, and the last time I saw her I tried to help her understand that her hatred of government was a sublimation of her impotence to her own bad cop father.</p>
<p>There was only so much I could do, you know? It still makes me sick.</p>
<p>The assumption of corruption is a terrible thing. That&#8217;s about all I can think about when I&#8217;m reading this site about how cops let other cops off because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re supposed to do in our &#8220;just&#8221; society.</p>
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		<title>By: Cybe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27174</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m upset by the fact that so many of these people post completely contradictory statements right next to each other, such as:

 &quot;Here&#039;s a question for you guys who would or did &quot;write a cop&quot;. If you pulled over a car with blacked out windows doing 91 in a 55 and it turns out to be your father, would you write him?
If you said yes, then you really have issues and I would never want to work with you. If you said no, then you are a hypocrit. Either you enforce the law 100% or not.&quot;

So he wouldn&#039;t want to work with someone who writes their father a ticket, but if they don&#039;t do it, they are a hypocrite because they wrote another cop a ticket, and they have to enforce the law 100% or not (I&#039;m assuming that he means &quot;not at all&quot;, because it&#039;s obvious that you either are doing something 100% or not 100%)  Therefore, this man does not want to work with any cop at all, because either they write the ticket, and he doesn&#039;t want to work with them, or they don&#039;t write the ticket, and they are not enforcing the law 100%, as he says that they should do.  

There are countless other examples of this on that website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m upset by the fact that so many of these people post completely contradictory statements right next to each other, such as:</p>
<p> &#8220;Here&#8217;s a question for you guys who would or did &#8220;write a cop&#8221;. If you pulled over a car with blacked out windows doing 91 in a 55 and it turns out to be your father, would you write him?<br />
If you said yes, then you really have issues and I would never want to work with you. If you said no, then you are a hypocrit. Either you enforce the law 100% or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>So he wouldn&#8217;t want to work with someone who writes their father a ticket, but if they don&#8217;t do it, they are a hypocrite because they wrote another cop a ticket, and they have to enforce the law 100% or not (I&#8217;m assuming that he means &#8220;not at all&#8221;, because it&#8217;s obvious that you either are doing something 100% or not 100%)  Therefore, this man does not want to work with any cop at all, because either they write the ticket, and he doesn&#8217;t want to work with them, or they don&#8217;t write the ticket, and they are not enforcing the law 100%, as he says that they should do.  </p>
<p>There are countless other examples of this on that website.</p>
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		<title>By: Monster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-28201</link>
		<dc:creator>Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my dad was a kid, his mom was driving one day and got rear-ended by a cop doing 100 MPH without his lights on (he later said it was because he was trying to catch up to a speeder without alerting him). The cop car flipped and decapitated the cop in the passenger seat. A justice of the peace arrived at the scene to declare the cop dead and get accounts from all the witnesses. The cop was clearly going too fast and lost control... there was no question of this.

A couple of days later the cops wrote her a ticket. Talk about gall. When she went to fight the ticket she found that the witnesses on the scene now changed their stories to favor the cops. In other words, the cops forced them to change their stories. Luckily, the case got thrown out because the justice of the peace at the scene was also the judge who presided over the case, and he knew what happened. He also knew the witnesses changed their stories. And yet the cop never got in trouble.

And that is just one of the many reasons why my dad raised me to never trust cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my dad was a kid, his mom was driving one day and got rear-ended by a cop doing 100 MPH without his lights on (he later said it was because he was trying to catch up to a speeder without alerting him). The cop car flipped and decapitated the cop in the passenger seat. A justice of the peace arrived at the scene to declare the cop dead and get accounts from all the witnesses. The cop was clearly going too fast and lost control&#8230; there was no question of this.</p>
<p>A couple of days later the cops wrote her a ticket. Talk about gall. When she went to fight the ticket she found that the witnesses on the scene now changed their stories to favor the cops. In other words, the cops forced them to change their stories. Luckily, the case got thrown out because the justice of the peace at the scene was also the judge who presided over the case, and he knew what happened. He also knew the witnesses changed their stories. And yet the cop never got in trouble.</p>
<p>And that is just one of the many reasons why my dad raised me to never trust cops.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27435</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@porkbarrel

I&#039;d love to hear where your line is then. How much further over the line does a cop get to go than we do? It should be codified if yo think it&#039;s fair. It&#039;s a ridiculous, slippery slope, and it happens with firemen and teachers as well, with their stupid union stickers on the rear window.

I think about selling the IAFF stickers, everyone should have one of their own.

It also screws up in other ways. My brother is a policeman whose girlfriend was plastered, got pulled over, and he received this &#039;professional courtesy&#039; from the other cop even though he did not want it. So now he has something held over him now by some other turd in the department. Totally ridiculous.

If anything police should have LESS leeway. They want any respect? They should try following the laws they don&#039;t even bother to remember, but feel justified in enforcing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@porkbarrel</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear where your line is then. How much further over the line does a cop get to go than we do? It should be codified if yo think it&#8217;s fair. It&#8217;s a ridiculous, slippery slope, and it happens with firemen and teachers as well, with their stupid union stickers on the rear window.</p>
<p>I think about selling the IAFF stickers, everyone should have one of their own.</p>
<p>It also screws up in other ways. My brother is a policeman whose girlfriend was plastered, got pulled over, and he received this &#8216;professional courtesy&#8217; from the other cop even though he did not want it. So now he has something held over him now by some other turd in the department. Totally ridiculous.</p>
<p>If anything police should have LESS leeway. They want any respect? They should try following the laws they don&#8217;t even bother to remember, but feel justified in enforcing.</p>
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		<title>By: ethan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26929</link>
		<dc:creator>ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep wanting to start a blog where I would report every time I see a cop car doing something ticketable, with as many details--plate number, specific location, exactly what they did--as possible. People could send in their own reports, it would be great. Except I keep forgetting to actually do it.

That copswritingcops.com site is awfully disturbing. What we need is competing teams of cops policing one another. Or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep wanting to start a blog where I would report every time I see a cop car doing something ticketable, with as many details&#8211;plate number, specific location, exactly what they did&#8211;as possible. People could send in their own reports, it would be great. Except I keep forgetting to actually do it.</p>
<p>That copswritingcops.com site is awfully disturbing. What we need is competing teams of cops policing one another. Or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Calton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psst! Post #73 is spam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psst! Post #73 is spam!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26932</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hipocrisy of these cops is unreal. The sense of entitlement on display here is thick enough to frost a donut.

After countless incidents of getting hassled by the cops, I have to admit that I enjoy watching these guys seething with impotent rage at having to go to traffic school.

In this day and age of police provocateurs and taser-happy pigs, Big ups to the cops who, as Mark puts it &quot;Actually do their Jobs.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hipocrisy of these cops is unreal. The sense of entitlement on display here is thick enough to frost a donut.</p>
<p>After countless incidents of getting hassled by the cops, I have to admit that I enjoy watching these guys seething with impotent rage at having to go to traffic school.</p>
<p>In this day and age of police provocateurs and taser-happy pigs, Big ups to the cops who, as Mark puts it &#8220;Actually do their Jobs.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: marshn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26935</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m waiting for copstasingcops.com.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26936</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This creep actually tried to use 9/11 as an excuse for why he should get out of a ticket:

I am a police officer with the Port Authority NY/NJ Police Department.
I was coming home to NJ with my family from Myrtle Beach Driving up Interstate 95 when I was pulled over for Speeding by a Va State Trooper (Tpr Shehan # 5667)

I identified Myself as a Law Enforcement Officer with The Port Authority and The trooper asked me again for my license, reg and insurance card. I handed over my license etc and the trooper stated he pulled me over for doing 82MPH in a 65MPH.

&quot;When the trooper came back to my car he stated he wrote me a summons for RECKLESS Driving because I was driving over 80MPH.
When I asked about the trooper extending Professional Courtesy the trooper stated he gives Courtesy &quot;BUT NOT AT THAT SPEED&quot;

The thing that burns me up is that not only did he not extend courtesy to me after My dept extended courtesy to his agency at the World Trade Center after 9/11, He wrote me a summons for RECKLESS driving which is $ 176.00 instead of speeding (17 MPH over speed limit would have cost me $85.00).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This creep actually tried to use 9/11 as an excuse for why he should get out of a ticket:</p>
<p>I am a police officer with the Port Authority NY/NJ Police Department.<br />
I was coming home to NJ with my family from Myrtle Beach Driving up Interstate 95 when I was pulled over for Speeding by a Va State Trooper (Tpr Shehan # 5667)</p>
<p>I identified Myself as a Law Enforcement Officer with The Port Authority and The trooper asked me again for my license, reg and insurance card. I handed over my license etc and the trooper stated he pulled me over for doing 82MPH in a 65MPH.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the trooper came back to my car he stated he wrote me a summons for RECKLESS Driving because I was driving over 80MPH.<br />
When I asked about the trooper extending Professional Courtesy the trooper stated he gives Courtesy &#8220;BUT NOT AT THAT SPEED&#8221;</p>
<p>The thing that burns me up is that not only did he not extend courtesy to me after My dept extended courtesy to his agency at the World Trade Center after 9/11, He wrote me a summons for RECKLESS driving which is $ 176.00 instead of speeding (17 MPH over speed limit would have cost me $85.00).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dave(id)</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26937</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure most of us would expect a break on a ticket if we were cops. I know I would.

As far as the website goes, we&#039;re only hearing one side of the story, some cops deserve tickets just like anyone else, especially if they exhibit too much &quot;above the law&quot; attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure most of us would expect a break on a ticket if we were cops. I know I would.</p>
<p>As far as the website goes, we&#8217;re only hearing one side of the story, some cops deserve tickets just like anyone else, especially if they exhibit too much &#8220;above the law&#8221; attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: frankiez</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27964</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This website made me think about american TV shows like COPS: these shows are so violent that if the police of any other civilised country would do the same they would never show it on TV (since that show would be used as an evidence in court)...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This website made me think about american TV shows like COPS: these shows are so violent that if the police of any other civilised country would do the same they would never show it on TV (since that show would be used as an evidence in court)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: codswallower</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27965</link>
		<dc:creator>codswallower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Brooklyn where cops pretty much view red lights as optional and NYPD and FDNY members park wherever they like ticket free.

It seems clear to me that rampant violation of the rule of law at the highest levels of our government has been taken as carte blanche by the grunts.

I would suggest bringing this site to the attention of the Department of Justice if I didn&#039;t think it would provide an object lesson for further DOJ corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Brooklyn where cops pretty much view red lights as optional and NYPD and FDNY members park wherever they like ticket free.</p>
<p>It seems clear to me that rampant violation of the rule of law at the highest levels of our government has been taken as carte blanche by the grunts.</p>
<p>I would suggest bringing this site to the attention of the Department of Justice if I didn&#8217;t think it would provide an object lesson for further DOJ corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: mrfitz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27454</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thoroughly disgusted with those hypocrites. </description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27199</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoelC, I&#039;m with you, I wish we could encourage the ticket writers for being fair.
-- Hotwater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoelC, I&#8217;m with you, I wish we could encourage the ticket writers for being fair.<br />
&#8211; Hotwater</p>
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		<title>By: Subspace</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26948</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part is the explanation that &quot;every profession gets some kind of perk.&quot;  People who work at sandwich shops get free sandwiches, right?  Well, why shouldn&#039;t cops get free get-outta-jail cards?  

One of the &quot;Dicks&quot; was a cop who arrested a cop&#039;s wife for driving on a suspended license.  

Oh, and I nearly forgot this:

&quot;The public has faith in us (supposedly).&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part is the explanation that &#8220;every profession gets some kind of perk.&#8221;  People who work at sandwich shops get free sandwiches, right?  Well, why shouldn&#8217;t cops get free get-outta-jail cards?  </p>
<p>One of the &#8220;Dicks&#8221; was a cop who arrested a cop&#8217;s wife for driving on a suspended license.  </p>
<p>Oh, and I nearly forgot this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The public has faith in us (supposedly).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27461</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They do mention the names of the officers. In some cases it is tempting to email, say, Mike Buzan, from this website: http://members.aol.com/cretepd/members.html

and let him know I appreciate that he has a reputation among cops for applying the law evenly and without the usual graft that many cops mistake for professional courtesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do mention the names of the officers. In some cases it is tempting to email, say, Mike Buzan, from this website: <a href="http://members.aol.com/cretepd/members.html" rel="nofollow">http://members.aol.com/cretepd/members.html</a></p>
<p>and let him know I appreciate that he has a reputation among cops for applying the law evenly and without the usual graft that many cops mistake for professional courtesy.</p>
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		<title>By: RingMod76</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26952</link>
		<dc:creator>RingMod76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s so much irony on copswritingcops.com it might just collapse inwards on itself and become an ironic black hole...

I nominate the creators of the site for the &quot;Dick of the Month&quot; award - for having the temerity to bitch and whine about the crap that they put everyone else through. It&#039;s obvious cops need to write MORE tickets to other cops; perhaps, then, a few more of them will realize what arbitrary assholes they often are to the general public. Fuckwits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s so much irony on copswritingcops.com it might just collapse inwards on itself and become an ironic black hole&#8230;</p>
<p>I nominate the creators of the site for the &#8220;Dick of the Month&#8221; award &#8211; for having the temerity to bitch and whine about the crap that they put everyone else through. It&#8217;s obvious cops need to write MORE tickets to other cops; perhaps, then, a few more of them will realize what arbitrary assholes they often are to the general public. Fuckwits.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26956</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;ve given breaks before for people doing 19 miles over the limit.  I have even let one go for doing 150+ on LSD. &quot;

Being a cop sounds like fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve given breaks before for people doing 19 miles over the limit.  I have even let one go for doing 150+ on LSD. &#8221;</p>
<p>Being a cop sounds like fun.</p>
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		<title>By: tofer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27215</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also from the list of what they want us to know:

&quot;In one week I pulled over 40 cars for minor equipment violations.
12 out of 40 had no vehicle insurance.
7 out of 40 had suspended driverâ€™s licenses.
4 out of 40 had warrants.
1 out of 40 had felony warrants.
1 was a known sex offender with his 12 year old niece in the car
20 were let go with verbal warnings&quot;


So:
40 tatty cars, 25 offenders 
Assuming other 15 got verbal warnings, who got the other 5?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also from the list of what they want us to know:</p>
<p>&#8220;In one week I pulled over 40 cars for minor equipment violations.<br />
12 out of 40 had no vehicle insurance.<br />
7 out of 40 had suspended driverâ€™s licenses.<br />
4 out of 40 had warrants.<br />
1 out of 40 had felony warrants.<br />
1 was a known sex offender with his 12 year old niece in the car<br />
20 were let go with verbal warnings&#8221;</p>
<p>So:<br />
40 tatty cars, 25 offenders<br />
Assuming other 15 got verbal warnings, who got the other 5?</p>
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		<title>By: ridl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-27729</link>
		<dc:creator>ridl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a fantastic zine out of Arizona by a cranky old anarchist called &quot;The Match&quot;  that has a regular &quot;Who the Police Beat&quot; section every issue. It collects, for pages and pages, all the latest reports from around the country of the staggeringly violent and abusive behaviour the brutal, uniformed enforcement wing of US Law inflicts on this country. If this &quot;cops writing cops&quot; site doesn&#039;t convince you of the vastness of the corruption problem this insular &quot;brotherhood&quot; of state-funded thugs who, without the slightest hint of irony, call themselves peace officers face us with, go to your favorite radical book outlet and pick up a copy of The Match. 

The problem is not with a few individual uniforms gone rotten. The problem is systemic, and it is getting worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a fantastic zine out of Arizona by a cranky old anarchist called &#8220;The Match&#8221;  that has a regular &#8220;Who the Police Beat&#8221; section every issue. It collects, for pages and pages, all the latest reports from around the country of the staggeringly violent and abusive behaviour the brutal, uniformed enforcement wing of US Law inflicts on this country. If this &#8220;cops writing cops&#8221; site doesn&#8217;t convince you of the vastness of the corruption problem this insular &#8220;brotherhood&#8221; of state-funded thugs who, without the slightest hint of irony, call themselves peace officers face us with, go to your favorite radical book outlet and pick up a copy of The Match. </p>
<p>The problem is not with a few individual uniforms gone rotten. The problem is systemic, and it is getting worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/cops-complaining-abo.html#comment-26963</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well don&#039;t you just love it. Even the title of their website is messed up. &quot;Polcie&quot; Officers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well don&#8217;t you just love it. Even the title of their website is messed up. &#8220;Polcie&#8221; Officers?</p>
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