Comments on: Saudi religious police attacked by girls http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 20:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: micah http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27400 micah Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27400 i'm fairly sure that those two commission members got told, so it follows that they're deserving of an "oh, snap!" yup. that felt about right. my work here is done. i’m fairly sure that those two commission members got told, so it follows that they’re deserving of an “oh, snap!”

yup. that felt about right. my work here is done.

]]> By: OM http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27661 OM Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27661 ...You know, if more women in these Muslim fanatic countries would rise up and fight back against their oppression in this manner, the sooner the rest of the populace would accept the fact that their clerics are complete nutjobs, deservedly put them to the sword, and clear the way for them to join the civilized world. …You know, if more women in these Muslim fanatic countries would rise up and fight back against their oppression in this manner, the sooner the rest of the populace would accept the fact that their clerics are complete nutjobs, deservedly put them to the sword, and clear the way for them to join the civilized world.

]]> By: Joe http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27407 Joe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27407 From what I've heard about the behavior of the Saudi religious police, I doubt the claim that the young women were "politely advised" about their violation of the rules; those guys play rough, and the pepper spray was probably self-defense. From what I’ve heard about the behavior of the Saudi religious police, I doubt the claim that the young women were “politely advised” about their violation of the rules; those guys play rough, and the pepper spray was probably self-defense.

]]> By: Michael Zed http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-28177 Michael Zed Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-28177 In a “civilized” country those girls would be tossed in the slammer for assaulting an officer with a weapon. Nice to see that an apology still counts for something somewhere. And to some of the commenters here: isn’t politeness and showing basic respect a sign of being civilized? In a “civilized” country those girls would be tossed in the slammer for assaulting an officer with a weapon. Nice to see that an apology still counts for something somewhere.

And to some of the commenters here: isn’t politeness and showing basic respect a sign of being civilized?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27413 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27413 They didn't go far enough. They didn’t go far enough.

]]> By: yotta http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27414 yotta Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27414 It's nice to know that someone in Saudi Arabia has the balls to do that! It’s nice to know that someone in Saudi Arabia has the balls to do that!

]]> By: phasor3000 http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27421 phasor3000 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27421 <i>which then lead to one of the girls pepper-spraying them in the face</i> Too bad the girls didn't have a taser... which then lead to one of the girls pepper-spraying them in the face

Too bad the girls didn’t have a taser…

]]> By: Rossi http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27422 Rossi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27422 Please. Oh please. I beg you. Where is that cell phone video? It's probably safe to assume these girls were not wearing Burqinis. Please. Oh please. I beg you. Where is that cell phone video?

It’s probably safe to assume these girls were not wearing Burqinis.

]]> By: Joe http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27437 Joe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27437 From what I've heard about the behavior of the Saudi religious police, I doubt the claim that the young women were "politely advised" about their violation of the rules; those guys play rough, and the pepper spray was probably self-defense. From what I’ve heard about the behavior of the Saudi religious police, I doubt the claim that the young women were “politely advised” about their violation of the rules; those guys play rough, and the pepper spray was probably self-defense.

]]> By: willibro http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-28232 willibro Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-28232 YAY! Please, oh please, find that cell phone movie! YAY! Please, oh please, find that cell phone movie!

]]> By: june http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27465 june Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27465 Is it wrong if I hope this is true? The "religious police" can suck it. Is it wrong if I hope this is true? The “religious police” can suck it.

]]> By: willibro http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-28236 willibro Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-28236 @MICHAEL ZED Showing politeness to cops who tell you how to freakin' *dress yourself*? Uh, that would be a "no". @MICHAEL ZED
Showing politeness to cops who tell you how to freakin’ *dress yourself*? Uh, that would be a “no”.

]]> By: anangbhai http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27492 anangbhai Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27492 Muttaween ownage. A female classmate from Iran told me the religious police frequently do that a lot and its a running joke that the department is filled with people who just want to goggle at cleavage all day long in the name of protecting them from supposed immoral men lurking on every street corner. Guess who IS lurking on every street corner... Muttaween ownage. A female classmate from Iran told me the religious police frequently do that a lot and its a running joke that the department is filled with people who just want to goggle at cleavage all day long in the name of protecting them from supposed immoral men lurking on every street corner. Guess who IS lurking on every street corner…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-792941 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-792941 You sound like someone who does not live here and comment on something you do not know. These 'people' - and I use that term broadly for most! - are NOT cops. They are not police officers sworn to protect and serve. These are rude, self important jerks walking the streets insulting and publicly humiliating women who might have a head scarf out of place or abaya flying open with the wind, or sitting or standing in the wrong place or in one place too long, or any number of the many many similarily horrifying offenses that single women out alone might be accused of. Anyone who has run up with a (matawa) commissioner of vice and virtue KNOWs they didnt ask 'politely' They probably had a bull horn yelling out insults and usually are not alone which is very intimidating! More likely than not, he deserved what he got. It is nice to see women starting to defend themselves against these harrassing men....besides the fact it is overlooked that these men are BREAKING THE LAW by approaching and speaking to single unprotected women on the street...but everyone seems to overlook that fact. You sound like someone who does not live here and comment on something you do not know. These ‘people’ – and I use that term broadly for most! – are NOT cops. They are not police officers sworn to protect and serve. These are rude, self important jerks walking the streets insulting and publicly humiliating women who might have a head scarf out of place or abaya flying open with the wind, or sitting or standing in the wrong place or in one place too long, or any number of the many many similarily horrifying offenses that single women out alone might be accused of. Anyone who has run up with a (matawa) commissioner of vice and virtue KNOWs they didnt ask ‘politely’ They probably had a bull horn yelling out insults and usually are not alone which is very intimidating! More likely than not, he deserved what he got. It is nice to see women starting to defend themselves against these harrassing men….besides the fact it is overlooked that these men are BREAKING THE LAW by approaching and speaking to single unprotected women on the street…but everyone seems to overlook that fact.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-791675 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-791675 I do not know why the U.S. still deals with these countries because of civil rights. Oh, oope, noes, oil; never mind I think anyone the least bit concerned about civil rights in general worldwide should just condemn all the 'sharia' countries to hell. As in, we won't do business with you, period. Alas, a lot of them are oil-bearing states. Bunch of assholes, who aren't really adhering to the Koran. Or conversely, every Islamic male is so powerless, frantic and debased when seeing any part of a female (iincluding their face or hair) that they should probably be locked up in an institution because of their powerlessness and depravity.. Just saying. I do not know why the U.S. still deals with these countries because of civil rights.

Oh, oope, noes, oil; never mind

I think anyone the least bit concerned about civil rights in general worldwide should just condemn all the ‘sharia’ countries to hell. As in, we won’t do business with you, period.

Alas, a lot of them are oil-bearing states. Bunch of assholes, who aren’t really adhering to the Koran.

Or conversely, every Islamic male is so powerless, frantic and debased when seeing any part of a female (iincluding their face or hair) that they should probably be locked up in an institution because of their powerlessness and depravity.. Just saying.

]]> By: Mitch http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27518 Mitch Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27518 I don't think I'll ever read about someone in America apologizing and being released after pepper spraying a cop. I don’t think I’ll ever read about someone in
America apologizing and being released after pepper
spraying a cop.

]]> By: CC http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27790 CC Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27790 '...deservedly put them to the sword, and clear the way for them to join the civilized world.' Your contradiction tastes delicious with my morning coffee. ‘…deservedly put them to the sword, and clear the way for them to join the civilized world.’

Your contradiction tastes delicious with my morning coffee.

]]> By: willibro http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-29838 willibro Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-29838 Mr. Zed, I think the only person who has used a stereotypical term for arabic people on this thread is you. Mr. Zed, I think the only person who has used a stereotypical term for arabic people on this thread is you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27549 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27549 I'm pretty damn sure you don't "get released" after apologizing for spraying a cop with pepper spray. I’m pretty damn sure you don’t “get released” after apologizing for spraying a cop with pepper spray.

]]> By: iain010100 http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-28318 iain010100 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-28318 I found a cell phone picture of one of the cops: <img src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/entertainment_itv_at_50/img/7.jpg"> I found a cell phone picture of one of the cops:

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27554 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27554 Yes, please, where's the phone video? Just got done reading Robert Baer's books, and this story just about neutralized my fears, well, at least some hopes there. Perhaps King Abdallah is a different sort after all. Yes, please, where’s the phone video?

Just got done reading Robert Baer’s books, and this story just about neutralized my fears, well, at least some hopes there.

Perhaps King Abdallah is a different sort after all.

]]> By: Cpt. Tim http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-28070 Cpt. Tim Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-28070 just another example of how religion is outdated and uneeded. None of the good things religion can bring are exclusive to religion. If you want to be modest, be modest. I know plenty of modest athiests. But if you DON'T want to be modest, you don't need the god squad taking you aside in public. just another example of how religion is outdated and uneeded. None of the good things religion can bring are exclusive to religion. If you want to be modest, be modest. I know plenty of modest athiests. But if you DON’T want to be modest, you don’t need the god squad taking you aside in public.

]]> By: iain010100 http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-28326 iain010100 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-28326 Cop image: http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/entertainment_itv_at_50/img/7.jpg Cop image:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/entertainment_itv_at_50/img/7.jpg

]]> By: Michael Zed http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-28327 Michael Zed Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-28327 @Willibro, by politeness I meant not hopping on a public forum and repeating all kinds of stereotyped crap about the Ay-rabs. The comments here sound like an elementary schoolyard in the 1960s. @Willibro, by politeness I meant not hopping on a public forum and repeating all kinds of stereotyped crap about the Ay-rabs. The comments here sound like an elementary schoolyard in the 1960s.

]]> By: phasor3000 http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27563 phasor3000 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27563 Yes, the press in Saudi Arabia is so much more truthful and reliable than the evil Zionist-controlled American media. And women have more rights, and there's a lot more religious freedom and tolerance of gays and lesbians... all the things you would expect from a fundamentalist Islamic society operating under sharia law. Yes, the press in Saudi Arabia is so much more truthful and reliable than the evil Zionist-controlled American media. And women have more rights, and there’s a lot more religious freedom and tolerance of gays and lesbians… all the things you would expect from a fundamentalist Islamic society operating under sharia law.

]]> By: nex http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27565 nex Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27565 I don't think they were proper cops, or were they? I don’t think they were proper cops, or were they?

]]> By: dculberson http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27572 dculberson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27572 Re: being released... there are actually ways in which other societies are more free than America, believe it or not. Not saying it's OK how they oppress women! Just sayin'... Re: being released… there are actually ways in which other societies are more free than America, believe it or not.

Not saying it’s OK how they oppress women! Just sayin’…

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-791737 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-791737 If we only do business with countries that don't have horrible human rights records, who does that leave? Canada? If we only do business with countries that don’t have horrible human rights records, who does that leave? Canada?

]]> By: phasor3000 http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27589 phasor3000 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27589 If the cops did let them go unharmed, it was probably to release them to their father or husband, who very likely beat them for dishonoring their families so publicly. If they're "lucky" they won't end up as victims of a so-called honor killing. If the cops did let them go unharmed, it was probably to release them to their father or husband, who very likely beat them for dishonoring their families so publicly. If they’re “lucky” they won’t end up as victims of a so-called honor killing.

]]> By: Gag Halfrunt http://boingboing.net/2007/09/25/saudi-religious-poli.html#comment-27892 Gag Halfrunt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-27892 In Azar Nafisi's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_Lolita_in_Tehran"><i>Reading Lolita in Tehran</i></a>, there's an anecdote about a security guard at Tehran University who reports a woman for eating an apple 'lasciviously'. The implication is that the guard is projecting onto the woman his own sexual excitement at watching her eat. In Azar Nafisi’s Reading Lolita in Tehran, there’s an anecdote about a security guard at Tehran University who reports a woman for eating an apple ‘lasciviously’. The implication is that the guard is projecting onto the woman his own sexual excitement at watching her eat.

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