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		<title>By: Setharian</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32779</link>
		<dc:creator>Setharian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if it wouldn&#039;t be freely available without their gimmick.  Mocking the idea that musicians continue to have any control over the distribution of their music I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if it wouldn&#8217;t be freely available without their gimmick.  Mocking the idea that musicians continue to have any control over the distribution of their music I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: erindipity</title>
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		<dc:creator>erindipity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTH? no PayPal? only plastic? bummer.

*WE ARE ALL THE BIGGEST RADIOHEAD FANS ON THE PLANET!*

(currently listening to: Pablo Honey)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTH? no PayPal? only plastic? bummer.</p>
<p>*WE ARE ALL THE BIGGEST RADIOHEAD FANS ON THE PLANET!*</p>
<p>(currently listening to: Pablo Honey)</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Lopez</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33042</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this is a beautiful thing, but I&#039;d like to play devil&#039;s advocate for a second, only because I&#039;m trying to process these new concepts. Isn&#039;t it the initial strength of the record industry&#039;s marketing that elevated Radiohead to the position that enables them to do this? Would &quot;Creep&quot; ever have ended up on MTV if they wre just an obscure Internet band? It&#039;s clear that unless you sell 750,000 units, your band is a loss to a major label record company (and to you because you pay them back for all the money they fronted for your coke expenditures), so  major labels have to do the one thing that indies cannot: exposure. And for a band like Radiohead, it has been on a global scale. 

I know, I know the long tail changes this dynamic and bands will organically become famous, but bands do benefit from the marketing muscle the labels have. Personally the trade off isn&#039;t worth it (that is selling your soul to corporate record companies), but I just wanted to state the situation is not black and white. I don&#039;t know if the swarm will find the next Radiohead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this is a beautiful thing, but I&#8217;d like to play devil&#8217;s advocate for a second, only because I&#8217;m trying to process these new concepts. Isn&#8217;t it the initial strength of the record industry&#8217;s marketing that elevated Radiohead to the position that enables them to do this? Would &#8220;Creep&#8221; ever have ended up on MTV if they wre just an obscure Internet band? It&#8217;s clear that unless you sell 750,000 units, your band is a loss to a major label record company (and to you because you pay them back for all the money they fronted for your coke expenditures), so  major labels have to do the one thing that indies cannot: exposure. And for a band like Radiohead, it has been on a global scale. </p>
<p>I know, I know the long tail changes this dynamic and bands will organically become famous, but bands do benefit from the marketing muscle the labels have. Personally the trade off isn&#8217;t worth it (that is selling your soul to corporate record companies), but I just wanted to state the situation is not black and white. I don&#8217;t know if the swarm will find the next Radiohead.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33820</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been done.

It&#039;s called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bombthemusicindustry.com&quot;&gt;Bomb The Music Industry!&lt;/a&gt;

Also Harvey Danger did it.

Quit jerking off Radiohead&#039;s ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been done.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called <a href="http://www.bombthemusicindustry.com">Bomb The Music Industry!</a></p>
<p>Also Harvey Danger did it.</p>
<p>Quit jerking off Radiohead&#8217;s ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane Siberry (aka Issa) has been using the honor system to sell her recordings for years:

http://www.janesiberry.com/index2.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane Siberry (aka Issa) has been using the honor system to sell her recordings for years:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.janesiberry.com/index2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.janesiberry.com/index2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33315</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While she&#039;s no Radiohead, Jane Siberry has been doing this for a long while, now. http://www.sheeba.ca/store/index.php?cPath=21</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While she&#8217;s no Radiohead, Jane Siberry has been doing this for a long while, now. <a href="http://www.sheeba.ca/store/index.php?cPath=21" rel="nofollow">http://www.sheeba.ca/store/index.php?cPath=21</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know, I know the long tail changes this dynamic and bands will organically become famous, but bands do benefit from the marketing muscle the labels have.&quot;


Yes!  But here&#039;s the difference. If all record companies have to offer is marketing muscle then why do they need to own and/or make so much profit off these songs themselves?  Why do they need to own the masters?  Short answer: they don&#039;t.  Record Labels will be replaced by smart, powerful, marketing companies whose taste in bands they represent will booster their reputation (just like what happens with record labels).  Certain marketing companies will rise to the top and become &quot;hot.&quot;  The other side of the coin is distribution companies.  With a marketing company and a distribution company under their belt a band has little need for a record company.  If we could only all be little flies on the walls of major record company board rooms today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know, I know the long tail changes this dynamic and bands will organically become famous, but bands do benefit from the marketing muscle the labels have.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes!  But here&#8217;s the difference. If all record companies have to offer is marketing muscle then why do they need to own and/or make so much profit off these songs themselves?  Why do they need to own the masters?  Short answer: they don&#8217;t.  Record Labels will be replaced by smart, powerful, marketing companies whose taste in bands they represent will booster their reputation (just like what happens with record labels).  Certain marketing companies will rise to the top and become &#8220;hot.&#8221;  The other side of the coin is distribution companies.  With a marketing company and a distribution company under their belt a band has little need for a record company.  If we could only all be little flies on the walls of major record company board rooms today!</p>
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		<title>By: BlackAndy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33333</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackAndy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Antonio Lopez and others:

Radiohead might not be the best example of what you&#039;re trying to argue, as they&#039;ve been able to consistently hold onto and grow their devoted fan base since &quot;Creep&quot;/Pablo Honey came out.  They&#039;re more like Bob Dylan, or Muddy Waters, or the Stones, I think, in the sense that they could record themselves reading the phone book, and there are (a lot of) people who would buy it.  I think it&#039;s likely that artists like this would eventually emerge from the mass of musicmakers and achieve some measure of fame and riches.  Whether it&#039;s as much as was able to be amassed in the long heyday of the major record labels, that I can&#039;t tell you.

I think a better question here is: with the seeming impending demise of the record industry, would it be possible for a highly-packaged pop star to even partially dominate the music scene?  To put a name on it, is another Britney Spears going to be possible in a few years?  I&#039;m hoping not.  Not that disposable music isn&#039;t going to continue to be produced, marketed and sold, but I do hope it&#039;s no longer the baseline.

Ten years ago, I remember friends would buy everything that came out on Thrill Jockey because they knew that the label wouldn&#039;t sign something that they wouldn&#039;t like.  It&#039;s maybe like an art gallery knowing their regular customers, and looking for artists that would sell to them.  Having a coterie of similar artists and selling records on that reputation didn&#039;t sound like a bad business model then, and it only sounds like a better idea now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Antonio Lopez and others:</p>
<p>Radiohead might not be the best example of what you&#8217;re trying to argue, as they&#8217;ve been able to consistently hold onto and grow their devoted fan base since &#8220;Creep&#8221;/Pablo Honey came out.  They&#8217;re more like Bob Dylan, or Muddy Waters, or the Stones, I think, in the sense that they could record themselves reading the phone book, and there are (a lot of) people who would buy it.  I think it&#8217;s likely that artists like this would eventually emerge from the mass of musicmakers and achieve some measure of fame and riches.  Whether it&#8217;s as much as was able to be amassed in the long heyday of the major record labels, that I can&#8217;t tell you.</p>
<p>I think a better question here is: with the seeming impending demise of the record industry, would it be possible for a highly-packaged pop star to even partially dominate the music scene?  To put a name on it, is another Britney Spears going to be possible in a few years?  I&#8217;m hoping not.  Not that disposable music isn&#8217;t going to continue to be produced, marketed and sold, but I do hope it&#8217;s no longer the baseline.</p>
<p>Ten years ago, I remember friends would buy everything that came out on Thrill Jockey because they knew that the label wouldn&#8217;t sign something that they wouldn&#8217;t like.  It&#8217;s maybe like an art gallery knowing their regular customers, and looking for artists that would sell to them.  Having a coterie of similar artists and selling records on that reputation didn&#8217;t sound like a bad business model then, and it only sounds like a better idea now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane Siberry&#039;s Self-Determined Pricing

Hello Everyone!

I wanted you to hear about this from me first. The Sheeba store has a new pricing policy.

Like many, I feel restless and impatient with living in a world where people are made to feel like shoplifters rather than intelligent peoples with a good sense of balance. I want to treat people the way I&#039;d like to be treated. &#039;Dumbing UP&#039; (as opposed to &#039;dumbing down&#039;).

WHAT ARE SELF-DETERMINED TRANSACTIONS?
NOT donations
NOT pay-what-you-can
NOT guilt-trips
NOT tests of your integrity
ARE trans-actions

You decide what feels right to your gut. If you download for free, perhaps you&#039;ll buy an extra CD at an indie band&#039;s concert. Or if you don&#039;t go with your gut feeling, you might sleep poorly, wake up grumpy, put your shoes on backwards and fall over. Whatever. You&#039;ll know what to do.

WHAT YOU WILL FIND AT SHEEBA STORE
FOUR choices on pop-down &#039;buy&#039; button

1. free (gift from Jane)
2. self-determined (pay now)
3. self-determined (pay later so you are truly educated in your decision)
4. standard (today&#039;s going rate is about .99)

Pricing Statistics  	
%	Gift from Artist	19%
%	Standard	18%
%	Pay Now	5%
%	Pay Later	57%

Avg Price/Song	
$1.18
%	Paid Below Suggested	6%
%	Paid At Suggested	80%
%	Paid Above Suggested	14%
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane Siberry&#8217;s Self-Determined Pricing</p>
<p>Hello Everyone!</p>
<p>I wanted you to hear about this from me first. The Sheeba store has a new pricing policy.</p>
<p>Like many, I feel restless and impatient with living in a world where people are made to feel like shoplifters rather than intelligent peoples with a good sense of balance. I want to treat people the way I&#8217;d like to be treated. &#8216;Dumbing UP&#8217; (as opposed to &#8216;dumbing down&#8217;).</p>
<p>WHAT ARE SELF-DETERMINED TRANSACTIONS?<br />
NOT donations<br />
NOT pay-what-you-can<br />
NOT guilt-trips<br />
NOT tests of your integrity<br />
ARE trans-actions</p>
<p>You decide what feels right to your gut. If you download for free, perhaps you&#8217;ll buy an extra CD at an indie band&#8217;s concert. Or if you don&#8217;t go with your gut feeling, you might sleep poorly, wake up grumpy, put your shoes on backwards and fall over. Whatever. You&#8217;ll know what to do.</p>
<p>WHAT YOU WILL FIND AT SHEEBA STORE<br />
FOUR choices on pop-down &#8216;buy&#8217; button</p>
<p>1. free (gift from Jane)<br />
2. self-determined (pay now)<br />
3. self-determined (pay later so you are truly educated in your decision)<br />
4. standard (today&#8217;s going rate is about .99)</p>
<p>Pricing Statistics<br />
%	Gift from Artist	19%<br />
%	Standard	18%<br />
%	Pay Now	5%<br />
%	Pay Later	57%</p>
<p>Avg Price/Song<br />
$1.18<br />
%	Paid Below Suggested	6%<br />
%	Paid At Suggested	80%<br />
%	Paid Above Suggested	14%</p>
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		<title>By: TAR ART RAT</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32831</link>
		<dc:creator>TAR ART RAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a beautiful thing. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a beautiful thing. </p>
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		<title>By: LOLcat Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOLcat Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Setharian, this approach seems to give the artists a mite bit more control than they would have by leaving distribution up to the labels, don&#039;t you think? I hope it works, and I hope Radiohead rakes in loads of cash.

More importantly though, I hope there&#039;s a future for this model in the market at large. This is an easy (and, yes, somewhat gimmicky) route for Radiohead to take at this point in their careers, since they already have an enormous, loyal fan base. But the real question is whether a group of unknowns with great music but no backing from the industry publicity machine could reach Radiohead&#039;s popularity based solely on home-spun marketing and online donations (aka &quot;sales&quot;).

The RIAA are a bunch of thugs, but they still play a real role in laying down the &quot;venture capital&quot; that can turn lesser-known talents into &quot;stars.&quot; They used to play an essential role in music distribution as well, but of course the &#039;net made short work of that.

Once artists can pay for their own production and promotion using funds from fan loyalty alone, they&#039;ll be able to cut out the middlemen altogether. Will getting there be easy? Of course not, but you&#039;d better believe that it would give artists far more &quot;control&quot; than they currently have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Setharian, this approach seems to give the artists a mite bit more control than they would have by leaving distribution up to the labels, don&#8217;t you think? I hope it works, and I hope Radiohead rakes in loads of cash.</p>
<p>More importantly though, I hope there&#8217;s a future for this model in the market at large. This is an easy (and, yes, somewhat gimmicky) route for Radiohead to take at this point in their careers, since they already have an enormous, loyal fan base. But the real question is whether a group of unknowns with great music but no backing from the industry publicity machine could reach Radiohead&#8217;s popularity based solely on home-spun marketing and online donations (aka &#8220;sales&#8221;).</p>
<p>The RIAA are a bunch of thugs, but they still play a real role in laying down the &#8220;venture capital&#8221; that can turn lesser-known talents into &#8220;stars.&#8221; They used to play an essential role in music distribution as well, but of course the &#8216;net made short work of that.</p>
<p>Once artists can pay for their own production and promotion using funds from fan loyalty alone, they&#8217;ll be able to cut out the middlemen altogether. Will getting there be easy? Of course not, but you&#8217;d better believe that it would give artists far more &#8220;control&#8221; than they currently have.</p>
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		<title>By: pepsi_max2k</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepsi_max2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of bands in the UK have done something similar this year.

The Crimea (ex-Warners signed) released their whole second album for free, non-DRM MP3 download with cover art on their website back in May, prefering other revenue streams such as show tickets and merch to tide them over. I&#039;m a big fan of them and, having been to a few shows before &amp; after the release, I&#039;d say it deffinately worked; attendance must&#039;ve increased 5 times. They eventually release the album on CD for purchase a few months later.

Ash, uncer the same management of The Crimea, then announced they&#039;d no longer be releasing albums and sticking with single releases. No freebies though.

And then Prince, as you probably know, gave his album away to gig attendees and tabloid readers. Again, he&#039;ll also be selling the thing at a later date.

So no one yet has bothered to stop selling recorded music all together...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of bands in the UK have done something similar this year.</p>
<p>The Crimea (ex-Warners signed) released their whole second album for free, non-DRM MP3 download with cover art on their website back in May, prefering other revenue streams such as show tickets and merch to tide them over. I&#8217;m a big fan of them and, having been to a few shows before &#038; after the release, I&#8217;d say it deffinately worked; attendance must&#8217;ve increased 5 times. They eventually release the album on CD for purchase a few months later.</p>
<p>Ash, uncer the same management of The Crimea, then announced they&#8217;d no longer be releasing albums and sticking with single releases. No freebies though.</p>
<p>And then Prince, as you probably know, gave his album away to gig attendees and tabloid readers. Again, he&#8217;ll also be selling the thing at a later date.</p>
<p>So no one yet has bothered to stop selling recorded music all together&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Barrett</dc:creator>
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		<description>My coworker and I were just interviewed by Reuters TV about this (outside J&amp;R in NYC). It was a kind of &quot;man on the street&quot; interview. I have no idea of our answers were good enough for the clip soundbite they were looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My coworker and I were just interviewed by Reuters TV about this (outside J&#038;R in NYC). It was a kind of &#8220;man on the street&#8221; interview. I have no idea of our answers were good enough for the clip soundbite they were looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: jphilby</title>
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		<dc:creator>jphilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is the industry&#039;s worst nightmare.&quot;

Hmmmm ... that might be Prince. Or Reznor. Selling your CD online is ... what, 5 years old? Putting tracks online to remix -- with prizes for the peer-elected winners -- now *that* was rad.

The &quot;industry&quot; was always great at marketing. Alas, they were also in the position of deciding what was &quot;good enough&quot; to market. They became the status quo, and their choices defended that. The more consolidation, the more drivel. But then hey, that&#039;s History.

And the bigger they got (sort of like Apple), the more they cozied up with The Man. (Want to sell censored tracks? No problem. Hey, c&#039;mon to the barbecue this weekend.)

That period is over. How sweet it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is the industry&#8217;s worst nightmare.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmmm &#8230; that might be Prince. Or Reznor. Selling your CD online is &#8230; what, 5 years old? Putting tracks online to remix &#8212; with prizes for the peer-elected winners &#8212; now *that* was rad.</p>
<p>The &#8220;industry&#8221; was always great at marketing. Alas, they were also in the position of deciding what was &#8220;good enough&#8221; to market. They became the status quo, and their choices defended that. The more consolidation, the more drivel. But then hey, that&#8217;s History.</p>
<p>And the bigger they got (sort of like Apple), the more they cozied up with The Man. (Want to sell censored tracks? No problem. Hey, c&#8217;mon to the barbecue this weekend.)</p>
<p>That period is over. How sweet it is.</p>
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		<title>By: schmod</title>
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		<description>Never before has a band released an album for Â£40 (approx $80 USD -- tanking exchange rates = easy math), and been lauded for it!


I&#039;m sorry, but this just reeks of arrogance on Radiohead&#039;s part.  I commend them for standing up to the labels, but the pricey boxset is rather hypocritical.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never before has a band released an album for Â£40 (approx $80 USD &#8212; tanking exchange rates = easy math), and been lauded for it!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but this just reeks of arrogance on Radiohead&#8217;s part.  I commend them for standing up to the labels, but the pricey boxset is rather hypocritical.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errr.....guys?  Jane Siberry has been doing this same exact thing for years now.  Maybe a little &quot;credit where credit is due&quot; would be in order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr&#8230;..guys?  Jane Siberry has been doing this same exact thing for years now.  Maybe a little &#8220;credit where credit is due&#8221; would be in order?</p>
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		<title>By: virgil</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32612</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just tried to purchase the download; had problems finalizing purchase, don&#039;t know if it worked. 
Maybe they were just mad at me for only spending a dollar... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just tried to purchase the download; had problems finalizing purchase, don&#8217;t know if it worked.<br />
Maybe they were just mad at me for only spending a dollar&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33636</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have complete mixed feelings over this.  The concept -- paying your own price for the music -- is tremendous and it has the potentional to totally bring record company dominance crashing down.  

But $80 for the actual physical product? -- I don&#039;t understand people simultaneously smirking about saying &#039;goodbye&#039; to the CD, and happily plunking down so much cash for...the CDs (plus vinyl, I know, I know, but that still isn&#039;t any excuse).  Fans will always want the limited edition product, but I think that this move with the uber-expensive discbox says something else: some bands are ARTISTS, and others aren&#039;t.  I have serious doubts that other lesser-known bands would dare offer such an item in an all-Internet music purchasing world, or if they did, that they could get away with it.

Do I think it&#039;s cool?  Sure.  But I didn&#039;t ever imagine that taking the piss from the record companies would so quickly be replaced by a commodity fetishism whose cost makes CDs look like a good deal to me.

That said, according to the website Radiohead apparently are also going to release the music as a regular CD, too, for all the regular Joes and Janes out here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have complete mixed feelings over this.  The concept &#8212; paying your own price for the music &#8212; is tremendous and it has the potentional to totally bring record company dominance crashing down.  </p>
<p>But $80 for the actual physical product? &#8212; I don&#8217;t understand people simultaneously smirking about saying &#8216;goodbye&#8217; to the CD, and happily plunking down so much cash for&#8230;the CDs (plus vinyl, I know, I know, but that still isn&#8217;t any excuse).  Fans will always want the limited edition product, but I think that this move with the uber-expensive discbox says something else: some bands are ARTISTS, and others aren&#8217;t.  I have serious doubts that other lesser-known bands would dare offer such an item in an all-Internet music purchasing world, or if they did, that they could get away with it.</p>
<p>Do I think it&#8217;s cool?  Sure.  But I didn&#8217;t ever imagine that taking the piss from the record companies would so quickly be replaced by a commodity fetishism whose cost makes CDs look like a good deal to me.</p>
<p>That said, according to the website Radiohead apparently are also going to release the music as a regular CD, too, for all the regular Joes and Janes out here.</p>
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		<title>By: W. James Au</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-36199</link>
		<dc:creator>W. James Au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me see if I understand the economic math: If the cost to produce album and host the retail site is $500,000, and a million fans pay an average of $5 each, then Radiohead walks away with $4.5 million in pure profit.  That sound right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me see if I understand the economic math: If the cost to produce album and host the retail site is $500,000, and a million fans pay an average of $5 each, then Radiohead walks away with $4.5 million in pure profit.  That sound right?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Price</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32618</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>    My friend John Hurd has been working up an entire online store based on the same concept - you choose a price for any of the tracks or albums (DRM-free mp3!) in their catalog and get instant notice of how much is actually going into the artist&#039;s pocket.   It is a great concept - John says the idea came about because he noticed that when he was busking (Old-time Bass) he made more on album sales if he asked for a donation than if he set a price.

    They have a dozen or so Seattle area indy artists using the site, and so far it is working great - It&#039;s called songslide - I don&#039;t know if BB allows urls, but if they do, it is (naturally)  http://www.songslide.com/ 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>    My friend John Hurd has been working up an entire online store based on the same concept &#8211; you choose a price for any of the tracks or albums (DRM-free mp3!) in their catalog and get instant notice of how much is actually going into the artist&#8217;s pocket.   It is a great concept &#8211; John says the idea came about because he noticed that when he was busking (Old-time Bass) he made more on album sales if he asked for a donation than if he set a price.</p>
<p>    They have a dozen or so Seattle area indy artists using the site, and so far it is working great &#8211; It&#8217;s called songslide &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if BB allows urls, but if they do, it is (naturally)  <a href="http://www.songslide.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.songslide.com/</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Zidane</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32619</link>
		<dc:creator>Zidane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free is a price.</description>
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		<title>By: LOLcat Stevens</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32875</link>
		<dc:creator>LOLcat Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I love Radiohead and all, but what sort of eye-bleeding nonsense is that web site foisting upon us, anyway? I realize that design is one of those cyclic things, but I&#039;d really rather prefer that we not revive the mid-90&#039;s rave flyer aesthetic on a mass-culture scale. Please, oh ye gods of hipness, not yet, not yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I love Radiohead and all, but what sort of eye-bleeding nonsense is that web site foisting upon us, anyway? I realize that design is one of those cyclic things, but I&#8217;d really rather prefer that we not revive the mid-90&#8242;s rave flyer aesthetic on a mass-culture scale. Please, oh ye gods of hipness, not yet, not yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stu Mark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33387</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Jane Siberry? Was she not the first major artist to offer a pay-what-you-choose pricing strategy for her online discography?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Jane Siberry? Was she not the first major artist to offer a pay-what-you-choose pricing strategy for her online discography?</p>
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		<title>By: maths</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32879</link>
		<dc:creator>maths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course this is not an option for every band, but if all the superstar-bands that actually benefited from the old system to get to where they are, and now subsequently decide to go totally â€œindieâ€ where are the major labels going to find the mega-revenues that used to subsidize the rest of the money-losing acts in their stable?

For those who want a full analysis of this offering I have consolidated all the details in this analysis at http://www.music2dot0.com/archives/47</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course this is not an option for every band, but if all the superstar-bands that actually benefited from the old system to get to where they are, and now subsequently decide to go totally â€œindieâ€ where are the major labels going to find the mega-revenues that used to subsidize the rest of the money-losing acts in their stable?</p>
<p>For those who want a full analysis of this offering I have consolidated all the details in this analysis at <a href="http://www.music2dot0.com/archives/47" rel="nofollow">http://www.music2dot0.com/archives/47</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32883</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But does anyone know if the tracks are free from DRM-technology, or just free from DRM?

The download page suggests that you will be given a code to &#039;unlock&#039; the tracks after the release date... how is the unlocking done, precisely? A custom windows-only thing? An encrypted zip? via Plays-for-Sureâ„¢ ? - bleugh.

I&#039;m all confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But does anyone know if the tracks are free from DRM-technology, or just free from DRM?</p>
<p>The download page suggests that you will be given a code to &#8216;unlock&#8217; the tracks after the release date&#8230; how is the unlocking done, precisely? A custom windows-only thing? An encrypted zip? via Plays-for-Sureâ„¢ ? &#8211; bleugh.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-32635</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so awesome, I might just donate 40 bucks to hear fresh new Radiohead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so awesome, I might just donate 40 bucks to hear fresh new Radiohead.</p>
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		<title>By: KurtMac</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33411</link>
		<dc:creator>KurtMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I surely hope they release a standalone CD eventually, cuz I have no use for vinyl records, and I&#039;d much rather prefer the uncompressed CD audio over the MP3s. I&#039;ll give &#039;em $5 for the MP3s now, then buy the CD later.

Also, if I choose to pay money for the MP3s, am I doing so in British Pounds? Should I probably expect to get charged a currency exchange fee from my credit card? Eh? Boo complications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I surely hope they release a standalone CD eventually, cuz I have no use for vinyl records, and I&#8217;d much rather prefer the uncompressed CD audio over the MP3s. I&#8217;ll give &#8216;em $5 for the MP3s now, then buy the CD later.</p>
<p>Also, if I choose to pay money for the MP3s, am I doing so in British Pounds? Should I probably expect to get charged a currency exchange fee from my credit card? Eh? Boo complications.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat X</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33671</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many different aspects to this argument - whether it is good/bad for the music industry and/or artists.  I found this article that I thuoght sms it up well: http://www.moli.com/p/moliview/5_196957/article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many different aspects to this argument &#8211; whether it is good/bad for the music industry and/or artists.  I found this article that I thuoght sms it up well: <a href="http://www.moli.com/p/moliview/5_196957/article" rel="nofollow">http://www.moli.com/p/moliview/5_196957/article</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stu Mark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-35976</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the pricing for the box set, are Radiohead not Artists? If so, then the same logic that we apply to SteamPunk or Abstract Expressionism should be applied here: The fans, by voting with their feet, set the acceptable price. If you&#039;re into Radiohead enough to buy a deluxe box set, then you&#039;ll pay that price and think it was worth it, just as the person who plunked down just shy of 2 Million dollars for &lt;a href = &quot;http://images.artnet.com/picture.asp?date=20031111&amp;catalog=17631&amp;gallery=110889&amp;lot=00027&amp;filetype=2&quot;&gt;Celebration&lt;/a&gt; felt - that it was worth every penny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the pricing for the box set, are Radiohead not Artists? If so, then the same logic that we apply to SteamPunk or Abstract Expressionism should be applied here: The fans, by voting with their feet, set the acceptable price. If you&#8217;re into Radiohead enough to buy a deluxe box set, then you&#8217;ll pay that price and think it was worth it, just as the person who plunked down just shy of 2 Million dollars for <a href = "http://images.artnet.com/picture.asp?date=20031111&#038;catalog=17631&#038;gallery=110889&#038;lot=00027&#038;filetype=2">Celebration</a> felt &#8211; that it was worth every penny.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/09/30/radiohead-lets-fans.html#comment-33421</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just put zeros in for the download version and had no problem. Am I a heel for not paying something....anything? OK, guilt slowly draining away....I&#039;ll be alright. Don&#039;t you go worrying about little ol anonymous!!
Love Radiohead!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just put zeros in for the download version and had no problem. Am I a heel for not paying something&#8230;.anything? OK, guilt slowly draining away&#8230;.I&#8217;ll be alright. Don&#8217;t you go worrying about little ol anonymous!!<br />
Love Radiohead!!</p>
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