Archibishop of Mozambique: condoms and HIV cocktails will give you AIDS

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15 Responses to “Archibishop of Mozambique: condoms and HIV cocktails will give you AIDS”

  1. JacobDavis says:

    Every time someone who holds some sort of religious power opens his/her mouth and says something destructive like this, I have to wonder if the statement comes from genuine belief or a desire for control. I think that the two are not compatible. A genuinely “faithful” person, however deluded or misinformed, would be unlikely to say something like this to make a power grab. A cynical jerk who says something like this just to pander to his followers and maintain power wouldn’t seem very beholden to the tenets of Christian faith. Maybe it’s a mix, but I it’s hard to see them abiding in a single mind. Maybe the Archbishop is actually a Discordian Pope. It’s sad, any way I look at it.

    Oh, yes, and poopoo on all religions. Surely, personal jackassery and desire for power over others has nothing to do the world’s ills, and secularism will save us all.

  2. jphilby says:

    FUD was always a Church forte.

  3. Cpt. Tim says:

    the catholic church has about 50 years of life left ot it before they have to make major dogmatic changes.

    Their flow of new priests is trickling down to almost nothing. Their nuns are in worse shape. In the last month i read one story about nuns who were evicted because the diocese was broke from paying out on sex scandals. Seems to me it wasn’t the nuns who were raping the kids. The other was about some nuns being excommunicated for shaky dogma. Its just another example of how god hates women. Until recently it was next to impossible to get a priest stripped of his position for molesting a kid, but some nuns go against standard dogma and get the boot?

    If you want to read a great book on the state of the catholic church, check out papal sins.

    It goes through and tears down a lot of catholic positions using their own set of rules (its written by a devout catholic) the author out and out proves theres no basis for papal infallibility, theres no basis for forbidding birth control, theres no basis for forbidding women to be priests, theres even no basis that a blastocyst has a soul, and he goes on to argue that early abortions shouldn’t be a moral conflict. He also shows how theres no basis for priestly celebacy and we could wipe out the whole molestation problem pretty easy.

    My personal view is its all just hocus pocus, but from this guys arguments you could turn the catholic church into something as beneficial and unintrusive as buddism. It may be based on myth, but i won’t begrudge someone a crazy belief as long as it doesn’t negatively affect others…which is what this whole catholic church in africa is doing. Its close to genocide in my book.

  4. nick says:

    “Archbishop Chimoio told our reporter that abstention, not condoms, was the best way to fight HIV/Aids.” - from the BBC article

    Hmmm… just thinking out loud here, but perhaps the Archbishop saw this rumor as a godsend? The interior dialogue might go something like this: “Well, if it’s true, I’ve saved lives. If it’s not true, I’ve stopped people from sinning by using condoms. It’s a win/win!”

    @#11: The fact that many Africans believe the rumor doesn’t justify spreading it. No responsible public figure who isn’t a nutter would spread a rumor unless it had been proven somehow to be true.

  5. OM says:

    …You know, if the rest of the world *really* wanted to exterminate all of the native Africans, we’d have been sending billions of dollars *and* troops to bolster the South African government back in the 60′s and let them take over the whole continent.

    Bottom Line: Religion should *not* be allowed as a sanctuary for the nutjobs.

  6. adamrice says:

    The conspiracy goes deeper. Apparently his sacramental wafers have been laced with LSD.

  7. Giovanni says:

    I’d love to just church bash without doing any research but this priest got his ideas from somewhere.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6966658.stm Has the story where south africa had to recall 20 million condoms (many of which never came back)

    This started a lot of conspiracy theorists engines that condom makers were intentionally trying to infect africans with aids.

    Given Mozambique’s proximity to south africa it’s not a stretch to think that this priest got his ideas a few clicks down the rumor mill.

    If you don’t think there are plenty of Africans that believe this you’re wrong. Some friends of mine just got back from a few year stint in South Africa (I know that’s not Mozambique) and they said they heard lots of people say that they were waiting for most of the population to die of aids before trying to change the political climate.

    It’s easy to see why a country so close to south africa might share some distrust.

  8. D_OutHere says:

    What is it with these Catholic bigshots anyway? Here in Germany the most senior cardinal just recently described modern, secular art as “degenerate” (“entartet”), which is a central term in Nazi aesthetics.

  9. non-BB-gadget-account says:

    ironically, if you really did want to spread HIV around Africa deliberately, starting rumors like this would be a great way to do it.

  10. flammableskirt says:

    It’s absurd that the Catholic Church can decide on a whim that they were all wrong about limbo and ditch that antiquated idea, but contraception is still eeeeevilll.

    I have to respectfully disagree with Giovanni’s comment “Some friends of mine just got back from a few year stint in South Africa (I know that’s not Mozambique) and they said they heard lots of people say that they were waiting for most of the population to die of aids before trying to change the political climate.”

    I’m a South African and I don’t know who your friends were hanging out with, but no-one I know remotely feels that way. I’m not saying no-one does, but they’re definitely in a conservative right wing minority.

    As far as tactics for overthrowing governments go, waiting for AIDS to ravage the population, melt down the economy, send crime rates soaring and destroy social structures as we all struggle to care for millions of AIDS orphans and child-headed families, it’s a pretty damn stupid one.

    The condom recall was a horrifying disgrace undoing decades of work in prevention campaigning and yes, absolutely reinforcing the crazy conspiracy theories about condoms and AIDS that are still prelevent in Africa.

    A corrupt official at the South African Bureau of Standards took a bribe to allow defective batches of government issue condoms through. The official who took the bribe and the factory owners who offered it knew exactly what it means to pass defective condoms in a country where the HIV+ rate is around 10% of the population. As far as I’m concerned, it’s practically an act of genocide and should be treated as such.

    And hey, while we’re at it, declarations like this from half-baked ministers should also be considered an act of genocide.

  11. Dave X says:

    Sounds like a classic case of transference to me…

  12. abb3w says:

    So, is it ignorance, paranoia, or willful deception from a desire to save souls even at the cost of lives?

  13. JackCastile says:

    Great, just what the Catholic Church needs more of, lies and misinformation. Oh wait, that’s what all dogmatic religions sport.

  14. Silva says:

    A few days ago, he told Radio Renascença (a catholic station) that he was misinterpreted. To be honest, I really don’t see how that might have happened – his statement was clear as water.

  15. Dan says:

    What does this Catholic Bishop care about colonization? He’s sold his people to a Western religion, so if anything, he’s part of the problem, and he’s definitely the last person qualified to prattle on about protecting the indigenous cultures of Africa from colonization.

    As for his paranoid ramblings about the HIV crisis in Africa, it’s typical religious lunacy. To these fools, there’s a threat around every corner, and even when one doesn’t exist, they simply make up some hobgoblin to keep their foolish beliefs relevant so as to maintain control of the population.

    Personally, I think the world would be a happier place if ALL religions just shut up for a few centuries.

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