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	<title>Comments on: CNN&#039;s Glenn Beck: &quot;people who hate America&quot; losing homes in So CA&#160;wildfires</title>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59904</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you&#039;re not quite close enough to Qualcomm Stadium to personally drop off a carload of Sharpies, Depends, and Sunscreen, the Red Cross has established a link to benefit those affected by the fire:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redcross.org/news/ds/profiles/disaster_profile_CAWildfires.html&quot;&gt;http://www.redcross.org/news/ds/profiles/disaster_profile_CAWildfires.html&lt;/A&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you&#8217;re not quite close enough to Qualcomm Stadium to personally drop off a carload of Sharpies, Depends, and Sunscreen, the Red Cross has established a link to benefit those affected by the fire:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.redcross.org/news/ds/profiles/disaster_profile_CAWildfires.html">http://www.redcross.org/news/ds/profiles/disaster_profile_CAWildfires.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: acipolone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59403</link>
		<dc:creator>acipolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just hope you don&#039;t have any idiots saying, &quot;You should&#039;ve known better,&quot; like we had here in New Orleans after Katrina.

Stay strong, folks. Lots of positive thoughts for y&#039;all coming from the Big Easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just hope you don&#8217;t have any idiots saying, &#8220;You should&#8217;ve known better,&#8221; like we had here in New Orleans after Katrina.</p>
<p>Stay strong, folks. Lots of positive thoughts for y&#8217;all coming from the Big Easy.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59404</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bumper Sticker Mentality:

  &quot;Someone needs to knee Glenn Beck in the groin. Repeatedly. And put it on Pay-Per-View.&quot;

  &quot;Glenn Beck never loved America enough to serve it, he was too busy being drunk and polluting the airwaves.&quot;

  &quot;As for Glenn Beck, he&#039;s just a washed-up former addict whose opinions, like himself, are utterly worthless.&quot;

Reminds me of Free Republic and Democratic Underground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bumper Sticker Mentality:</p>
<p>  &#8220;Someone needs to knee Glenn Beck in the groin. Repeatedly. And put it on Pay-Per-View.&#8221;</p>
<p>  &#8220;Glenn Beck never loved America enough to serve it, he was too busy being drunk and polluting the airwaves.&#8221;</p>
<p>  &#8220;As for Glenn Beck, he&#8217;s just a washed-up former addict whose opinions, like himself, are utterly worthless.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reminds me of Free Republic and Democratic Underground.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaiser</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59660</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T #33 &quot;Ths s mrc nd vlnc s nt n ccptbl rspns t dffrncs f pnn r glb cmmnts.&quot;

h, w pcfl mrcns! W&#039;d nvr hrt  fly! Y mght wnt t gt dwn ff tht hgh hrs brthr. t my nt b ccptbl ndr th rck whr y lv, bt t sms lk mst mrcns lv thr vlnc. Try pssbly trnng n th TV r rdng  nwsppr. W lv n  cntry tht glrfs vlnc. S pls, ngh f &quot;Ths s mrc...&quot; &#039;m nt sr tht frylnd y spk f vr xstd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T #33 &#8220;Ths s mrc nd vlnc s nt n ccptbl rspns t dffrncs f pnn r glb cmmnts.&#8221;</p>
<p>h, w pcfl mrcns! W&#8217;d nvr hrt  fly! Y mght wnt t gt dwn ff tht hgh hrs brthr. t my nt b ccptbl ndr th rck whr y lv, bt t sms lk mst mrcns lv thr vlnc. Try pssbly trnng n th TV r rdng  nwsppr. W lv n  cntry tht glrfs vlnc. S pls, ngh f &#8220;Ths s mrc&#8230;&#8221; &#8216;m nt sr tht frylnd y spk f vr xstd.</p>
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		<title>By: John Platt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-60940</link>
		<dc:creator>John Platt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beck has the world&#039;s worst advertising slogan: &quot;He says it like he means it.&quot;

Seriously?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnplatt/1356982850/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beck has the world&#8217;s worst advertising slogan: &#8220;He says it like he means it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnplatt/1356982850/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnplatt/1356982850/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jomama123</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59919</link>
		<dc:creator>jomama123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a survivor of the 2003 San Diego firestorm. My house and 3000 others burned to the ground. Might I propose a six-pack of whupass for Glen Beck? There are actually people going thru this shit for a second time. Elliot </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a survivor of the 2003 San Diego firestorm. My house and 3000 others burned to the ground. Might I propose a six-pack of whupass for Glen Beck? There are actually people going thru this shit for a second time. Elliot </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59410</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My late grandfather, a retired Colonel, lived in Rancho Bernardo, and, as one might guess, he was a staunch conservative.  If he were alive I&#039;m sure he&#039;d invite Glenn over for a barbecue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My late grandfather, a retired Colonel, lived in Rancho Bernardo, and, as one might guess, he was a staunch conservative.  If he were alive I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;d invite Glenn over for a barbecue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59924</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there is a prime example of &quot;compassionate conservative&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there is a prime example of &#8220;compassionate conservative&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: frowelishnu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59413</link>
		<dc:creator>frowelishnu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some of Beck&#039;s conservative buddies can give him a tour of their destroyed homes when this is over.
I don&#039;t think that would make him see the light, but at least it might shut him up.
It&#039;s hard to feel sorrowful and outraged at the same time, but we&#039;ve gotten a lot of practice as a nation lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some of Beck&#8217;s conservative buddies can give him a tour of their destroyed homes when this is over.<br />
I don&#8217;t think that would make him see the light, but at least it might shut him up.<br />
It&#8217;s hard to feel sorrowful and outraged at the same time, but we&#8217;ve gotten a lot of practice as a nation lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-Fed</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59414</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex-Fed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this is contemptible.  But bear in mind that by highlighting and criticizing Beck you are simply assisting in the currently popular right-wing-blowhard two-step:

1.  Blowhard acts like a douche.
2.  When blowhard gets called out as a douche, he immediately complaints that this is Stalinism, that the left wants to silence him, that he is a victim, etc. etc. etc. -- and generally acts like a big girl&#039;s blouse.  Tiresome, but lapped up by his core audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this is contemptible.  But bear in mind that by highlighting and criticizing Beck you are simply assisting in the currently popular right-wing-blowhard two-step:</p>
<p>1.  Blowhard acts like a douche.<br />
2.  When blowhard gets called out as a douche, he immediately complaints that this is Stalinism, that the left wants to silence him, that he is a victim, etc. etc. etc. &#8212; and generally acts like a big girl&#8217;s blouse.  Tiresome, but lapped up by his core audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Carnell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-60951</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Carnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd criteria for disemvoweling here again.

Anyway, between Beck and Lou Dobbs, CNN is frequently far worse than Fox News. I&#039;m just waiting for CNN to try to lure Bill O&#039;Reilly over with some huge contract offer and they can have a complete set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd criteria for disemvoweling here again.</p>
<p>Anyway, between Beck and Lou Dobbs, CNN is frequently far worse than Fox News. I&#8217;m just waiting for CNN to try to lure Bill O&#8217;Reilly over with some huge contract offer and they can have a complete set.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Mikey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59418</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you do Pete Stark next, or Olberman?</description>
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		<title>By: Doran</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59421</link>
		<dc:creator>Doran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only seen this reported in blogs and on Media Matters. Given the MSM hissy fit over the &quot;General Betray Us&quot; ad, and even Limbaugh&#039;s &quot;phony soldiers&quot; remark, the silence here is rather deafening.

As for why he&#039;s still on CNN, that&#039;s simple. Because the advertisers still feel he&#039;s good for their marketing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only seen this reported in blogs and on Media Matters. Given the MSM hissy fit over the &#8220;General Betray Us&#8221; ad, and even Limbaugh&#8217;s &#8220;phony soldiers&#8221; remark, the silence here is rather deafening.</p>
<p>As for why he&#8217;s still on CNN, that&#8217;s simple. Because the advertisers still feel he&#8217;s good for their marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: WassabiCracka</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59427</link>
		<dc:creator>WassabiCracka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha! Nice Xeni! Beck is a tool, and you said it right, a tall cold glass o` whupass! Hey, doesn&#039;t Chuck Liddell and a lot of other MMA fighters live out there?  I wonder if they hate America? 

I hope this grows, I hate Beck almost as much as B. O&#039;R.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha! Nice Xeni! Beck is a tool, and you said it right, a tall cold glass o` whupass! Hey, doesn&#8217;t Chuck Liddell and a lot of other MMA fighters live out there?  I wonder if they hate America? </p>
<p>I hope this grows, I hate Beck almost as much as B. O&#8217;R.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59940</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FlamingPhoneBook: No. We have no evidence that any of the people whose homes are in the path of the fire hate America (whatever that means). And if they did, so what? Hating America isn&#039;t illegal. 

If you&#039;re into religion of the Christian sort, hating America is also not immoral, except insofar as hating anything (except sin) is a bad idea. 

As for whether these hypothetical people &quot;deserve&quot; to suffer -- that&#039;s neither for you nor me nor Glenn Beck to decide.  

I expect we&#039;ll see some people claiming that Glenn Beck&#039;s remarks were meant facetiously, but of course that&#039;s not true. Beck said them like he&#039;d say anything else. There&#039;s no way to justify them. They really were as bad as people are saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FlamingPhoneBook: No. We have no evidence that any of the people whose homes are in the path of the fire hate America (whatever that means). And if they did, so what? Hating America isn&#8217;t illegal. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re into religion of the Christian sort, hating America is also not immoral, except insofar as hating anything (except sin) is a bad idea. </p>
<p>As for whether these hypothetical people &#8220;deserve&#8221; to suffer &#8212; that&#8217;s neither for you nor me nor Glenn Beck to decide.  </p>
<p>I expect we&#8217;ll see some people claiming that Glenn Beck&#8217;s remarks were meant facetiously, but of course that&#8217;s not true. Beck said them like he&#8217;d say anything else. There&#8217;s no way to justify them. They really were as bad as people are saying.</p>
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		<title>By: dave hutchinson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59944</link>
		<dc:creator>dave hutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who&#039;s watching this disaster unfold from a considerable distance (one continent and a whole ocean away) I can&#039;t comment on the political subtext. To me, Beck&#039;s comment was just unforgiveably crass and insensitive. Maybe those who have castigated other posters for Bush-basing should concentrate on that for a second. It was just plain rude. At the very least he owes, what are we up to now? half a million people? an abject apology for being such an arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s watching this disaster unfold from a considerable distance (one continent and a whole ocean away) I can&#8217;t comment on the political subtext. To me, Beck&#8217;s comment was just unforgiveably crass and insensitive. Maybe those who have castigated other posters for Bush-basing should concentrate on that for a second. It was just plain rude. At the very least he owes, what are we up to now? half a million people? an abject apology for being such an arse.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59689</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The oddest part of Glenn Beck&#039;s remark is the use of the term &quot;forest fires.&quot;

Malibu doesn&#039;t really have forests - the hillsides are covered with chaparral and coastal sage scrub, but not much in the way of trees.

There &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; some fire areas that could be fairly described as &quot;forest fires&quot;, but those are mostly up in the mountains around Lake Arrowhead and the mountains above San Diego - neither of which are exactly hotbeds of America-Hating Hollywood Liberalism.

Poor fool can&#039;t even get the terrain right, never mind the demographics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oddest part of Glenn Beck&#8217;s remark is the use of the term &#8220;forest fires.&#8221;</p>
<p>Malibu doesn&#8217;t really have forests &#8211; the hillsides are covered with chaparral and coastal sage scrub, but not much in the way of trees.</p>
<p>There <i>are</i> some fire areas that could be fairly described as &#8220;forest fires&#8221;, but those are mostly up in the mountains around Lake Arrowhead and the mountains above San Diego &#8211; neither of which are exactly hotbeds of America-Hating Hollywood Liberalism.</p>
<p>Poor fool can&#8217;t even get the terrain right, never mind the demographics.</p>
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		<title>By: duus</title>
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		<dc:creator>duus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the evidence that they hate America is that they are relying on the nanny state to rescue them from fire instead of trusting the private market.  QED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the evidence that they hate America is that they are relying on the nanny state to rescue them from fire instead of trusting the private market.  QED.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59695</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link a couple people asked for to leave feedback at cnn.  It was posted above in a comment, but I will post it again.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4b.html?80</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link a couple people asked for to leave feedback at cnn.  It was posted above in a comment, but I will post it again.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4b.html?80" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4b.html?80</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chief Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59441</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Rush Limbaugh, yesterday&#039;s bloviation consisted mainly on
1) This is environmentalist&#039;s fault for not letting people clear the brush from the forest floor.
2) That the &quot;Left Wing Liberal Media&quot; was harping on this because it was hitting &quot;their dear friends in Malibu.&quot;
3) You see firefighters and policemen trying to put out the flames but you don&#039;t see anyone from Greenpeace, et al picking up a water hose.
4) Hillary Clinton wasn&#039;t helping to put out the fire either because she was too busy fund raising just south of one of the fires.

It pains me to know people listen to and follow these shmucks. Logic and being non-self-contradictory is soooo passe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Rush Limbaugh, yesterday&#8217;s bloviation consisted mainly on<br />
1) This is environmentalist&#8217;s fault for not letting people clear the brush from the forest floor.<br />
2) That the &#8220;Left Wing Liberal Media&#8221; was harping on this because it was hitting &#8220;their dear friends in Malibu.&#8221;<br />
3) You see firefighters and policemen trying to put out the flames but you don&#8217;t see anyone from Greenpeace, et al picking up a water hose.<br />
4) Hillary Clinton wasn&#8217;t helping to put out the fire either because she was too busy fund raising just south of one of the fires.</p>
<p>It pains me to know people listen to and follow these shmucks. Logic and being non-self-contradictory is soooo passe.</p>
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		<title>By: Chief Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59457</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and here is a link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4b.html?80&quot;&gt;feedback page for Glenn Beck&lt;/a&gt; on CNN.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and here is a link to the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4b.html?80">feedback page for Glenn Beck</a> on CNN.com.</p>
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		<title>By: dave hutchinson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59975</link>
		<dc:creator>dave hutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies. That should have been `Bush-&lt;i&gt;bashing&lt;/i&gt;.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies. That should have been `Bush-<i>bashing</i>.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Fattyfatfat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-60493</link>
		<dc:creator>Fattyfatfat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whn y rd ths pst rmnd yrslf t&#039;s rppd frm  MdMttrs prss rls.  Thgh sm srcstc jbs t Bck fllw, th pst nvr sks f nythng ws tkn t f cntxt.   lt f thngs sm wrs thn thy r whn tkn t f cntxt nd t&#039;s nt n Mdmttrs ntrst t prsnt thm n n hnst mnnr.  

Whn  smlr sttn hppnd wth Rsh nd th phny sldr stry, th phny sldr ws nt smn Rsh flt ws nt fttng t b  sldr bcs h dsgrd wth th wr bt rthr smn wh clmd mltry xprnc tht h dd nt hv.  
&#039;m n fn f Bck.  ddn&#039;t lk hm bfr CNN-bt Mdmttrs s nt  trstd src. t&#039;s   prtsn ttck mchn.  nd t bd Bngbng dsn&#039;t rcgnz tht.   mn-thr r ngh tlts tht wll brdcst thr prss rlss- try t b n f th fw ndpndnt nd bjctv ns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whn y rd ths pst rmnd yrslf t&#8217;s rppd frm  MdMttrs prss rls.  Thgh sm srcstc jbs t Bck fllw, th pst nvr sks f nythng ws tkn t f cntxt.   lt f thngs sm wrs thn thy r whn tkn t f cntxt nd t&#8217;s nt n Mdmttrs ntrst t prsnt thm n n hnst mnnr.  </p>
<p>Whn  smlr sttn hppnd wth Rsh nd th phny sldr stry, th phny sldr ws nt smn Rsh flt ws nt fttng t b  sldr bcs h dsgrd wth th wr bt rthr smn wh clmd mltry xprnc tht h dd nt hv.<br />
&#8216;m n fn f Bck.  ddn&#8217;t lk hm bfr CNN-bt Mdmttrs s nt  trstd src. t&#8217;s   prtsn ttck mchn.  nd t bd Bngbng dsn&#8217;t rcgnz tht.   mn-thr r ngh tlts tht wll brdcst thr prss rlss- try t b n f th fw ndpndnt nd bjctv ns.</p>
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		<title>By: naggs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59470</link>
		<dc:creator>naggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if glen beck knew anything about san diego he would know that

1) it is a very conservative area, going republican in every presidential and mid term election in recent memory
2) it is the largest military instalitation on earth housing over half the US navy and marine corp and their families as well as the families of those men and women fighting in iraq right now
3) more san diegans have fallen in iraq than any city in the country

be careful glen, you might accidentally not support the troops... ignorant prick

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if glen beck knew anything about san diego he would know that</p>
<p>1) it is a very conservative area, going republican in every presidential and mid term election in recent memory<br />
2) it is the largest military instalitation on earth housing over half the US navy and marine corp and their families as well as the families of those men and women fighting in iraq right now<br />
3) more san diegans have fallen in iraq than any city in the country</p>
<p>be careful glen, you might accidentally not support the troops&#8230; ignorant prick</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59726</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davescafe, I&#039;ll try to refrain from making fun of you for referring to this thread as a &quot;torch-and-pitchfork lynch-mob.&quot;

What you&#039;ve been seeing is fragmentary bits and pieces of a sudden heavy influx of comments that couldn&#039;t have arisen via natural causes. I despise astroturf, mindlessly jeering political hit squads, and all attempts to swamp the public discourse with noise and drive-by abuse. 

Some regular commenters to Boing Boing may have gotten caught in the deletions. If so, they have my apologies. We can sort that out later. What I&#039;m not going to do is apologize for is deleting the attack itself, since it was intended to shut down the legitimate discussion in this thread.

I&#039;ve also unpublished some meta-discussion of the attack posted by regular commenters. Sorry about that. Turning this thread into a discussion of the attack will shut down the discussion of Glenn Beck and related subjects just as surely as the attack itself would have done it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davescafe, I&#8217;ll try to refrain from making fun of you for referring to this thread as a &#8220;torch-and-pitchfork lynch-mob.&#8221;</p>
<p>What you&#8217;ve been seeing is fragmentary bits and pieces of a sudden heavy influx of comments that couldn&#8217;t have arisen via natural causes. I despise astroturf, mindlessly jeering political hit squads, and all attempts to swamp the public discourse with noise and drive-by abuse. </p>
<p>Some regular commenters to Boing Boing may have gotten caught in the deletions. If so, they have my apologies. We can sort that out later. What I&#8217;m not going to do is apologize for is deleting the attack itself, since it was intended to shut down the legitimate discussion in this thread.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also unpublished some meta-discussion of the attack posted by regular commenters. Sorry about that. Turning this thread into a discussion of the attack will shut down the discussion of Glenn Beck and related subjects just as surely as the attack itself would have done it.</p>
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		<title>By: seoisfun</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59471</link>
		<dc:creator>seoisfun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y gys r sttng  &lt;b&gt;GRT&lt;/b&gt; xmpl f ntllgnt dlg wth yr cmmnts.

Glnn Bck sys smthng tht y thnk s mn, nd y try t prv yr pnt by syng smthng vn mnr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y gys r sttng  <b>GRT</b> xmpl f ntllgnt dlg wth yr cmmnts.</p>
<p>Glnn Bck sys smthng tht y thnk s mn, nd y try t prv yr pnt by syng smthng vn mnr.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-65630</link>
		<dc:creator>JimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, another Limbaugh knockoff said &quot;These people with the fires, with the floods...they get what&#039;s coming to them.&quot; I missed the post about him. I trust everybody on this thread&#039;ll want to knee him in the groin, say his &quot;opinions, like himself, are utterly worthless&quot;, suggest a &quot;six-pack of whup-ass&quot;, accuse him of using &quot;Hate and fear&quot;, &quot;the weapons of conservatism,&quot; wielding them &quot;with a vengeance&quot;, call him a &quot;Blowhard [who] acts like a douche&quot;, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U8p9IbXYHc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, another Limbaugh knockoff said &#8220;These people with the fires, with the floods&#8230;they get what&#8217;s coming to them.&#8221; I missed the post about him. I trust everybody on this thread&#8217;ll want to knee him in the groin, say his &#8220;opinions, like himself, are utterly worthless&#8221;, suggest a &#8220;six-pack of whup-ass&#8221;, accuse him of using &#8220;Hate and fear&#8221;, &#8220;the weapons of conservatism,&#8221; wielding them &#8220;with a vengeance&#8221;, call him a &#8220;Blowhard [who] acts like a douche&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U8p9IbXYHc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U8p9IbXYHc</a></p>
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		<title>By: malex</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59744</link>
		<dc:creator>malex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Davescafe&lt;/b&gt;, I don&#039;t think you really understand the nature of these criticisms. Nobody cares if what Beck said was &quot;mean&quot;... What it is is evidence of a stupidity and pettiness that has poisoned the very nature of political debate in America.

1: You do not accuse people of &quot;hating&quot; their country just because you criticize the government. You just don&#039;t. Republicans, of all people, should understand that.

2: The region affected is among the most Republican areas of the state. So even if you ignore point #1, his statement is factually dumb.

3: Even putting all that aside, the time to criticize a community&#039;s political slant is &lt;I&gt;not&lt;/I&gt; when hundreds of thousands of them are fleeing for their lives while their homes and possessions and pets are being incinerated.

These are not &quot;liberal&quot; talking points. These are commonly understood points of what we call Not Being An Asshole. Glenn Beck does not understand these points because he is, as a career, a spokesman for a petty and crass philosophy... being a Cable News Partisan.

And I realize it&#039;s not just Right-Wingers and Bush-lovers who make idiots of themselves attempting to spin every human event into Us Vs Them... but still, I can&#039;t think of anyone embracing it they way they have. If that one poster really did &quot;read worse things said about Republicans&quot; from Al Franken, I&#039;d like to hear it. Because I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Davescafe</b>, I don&#8217;t think you really understand the nature of these criticisms. Nobody cares if what Beck said was &#8220;mean&#8221;&#8230; What it is is evidence of a stupidity and pettiness that has poisoned the very nature of political debate in America.</p>
<p>1: You do not accuse people of &#8220;hating&#8221; their country just because you criticize the government. You just don&#8217;t. Republicans, of all people, should understand that.</p>
<p>2: The region affected is among the most Republican areas of the state. So even if you ignore point #1, his statement is factually dumb.</p>
<p>3: Even putting all that aside, the time to criticize a community&#8217;s political slant is <i>not</i> when hundreds of thousands of them are fleeing for their lives while their homes and possessions and pets are being incinerated.</p>
<p>These are not &#8220;liberal&#8221; talking points. These are commonly understood points of what we call Not Being An Asshole. Glenn Beck does not understand these points because he is, as a career, a spokesman for a petty and crass philosophy&#8230; being a Cable News Partisan.</p>
<p>And I realize it&#8217;s not just Right-Wingers and Bush-lovers who make idiots of themselves attempting to spin every human event into Us Vs Them&#8230; but still, I can&#8217;t think of anyone embracing it they way they have. If that one poster really did &#8220;read worse things said about Republicans&#8221; from Al Franken, I&#8217;d like to hear it. Because I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-59501</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn Beck called Katrina survivors in New Orleans &quot;scumbags,&quot; families of 9/11 victims a bunch of whiners, and now the victims of these fires &quot;hate America.&quot; Hate and fear are the weapons of conservatism, and Glenn wields them with a vengeance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Beck called Katrina survivors in New Orleans &#8220;scumbags,&#8221; families of 9/11 victims a bunch of whiners, and now the victims of these fires &#8220;hate America.&#8221; Hate and fear are the weapons of conservatism, and Glenn wields them with a vengeance.</p>
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		<title>By: james foreman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-people-wh.html#comment-60014</link>
		<dc:creator>james foreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wise, considerate, intelligent, articulate people can be found on either side of the aisle, but rarely can they be found on radio.  It&#039;s a medium ruled by people who say crazy things for money.  

Have you ever heard Michael Savage?  That guy is basically a human cadaver animated solely for the purpose of housing Hitler&#039;s brain.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wise, considerate, intelligent, articulate people can be found on either side of the aisle, but rarely can they be found on radio.  It&#8217;s a medium ruled by people who say crazy things for money.  </p>
<p>Have you ever heard Michael Savage?  That guy is basically a human cadaver animated solely for the purpose of housing Hitler&#8217;s brain.  </p>
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