Comments on: AT&T wiretapping: Your two-minute guide http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 20:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: the table is the table http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79617 the table is the table Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79617 i don't know how to contact any of you directly, but i read the site regularly. you know that all of the post-4:32 pm posts today are underlined as hyperlinks as a whole? i'm assuming yes, but uh... just thought you should know. -the table i don’t know how to contact any of you directly, but i read the site regularly.

you know that all of the post-4:32 pm posts today are underlined as hyperlinks as a whole? i’m assuming yes, but uh… just thought you should know.

-the table

]]> By: jasonjackson http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79619 jasonjackson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79619 When I try to discuss this issue with coworkers, software developer and other tech geeks, very few of them are aware of this issue or are confused about the details. If these individuals are confused, I can imagine what the lay people must think about all of this AT&T wiretapping stuff. Thanks for the video. This is a pretty good explanation, though it could have gone into a little more history in the matter. Still, I plan on forwarding it to a number of people. When I try to discuss this issue with coworkers, software developer and other tech geeks, very few of them are aware of this issue or are confused about the details. If these individuals are confused, I can imagine what the lay people must think about all of this AT&T wiretapping stuff.

Thanks for the video. This is a pretty good explanation, though it could have gone into a little more history in the matter. Still, I plan on forwarding it to a number of people.

]]> By: Cristóbal Palmer http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79875 Cristóbal Palmer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79875 Oh good. The video's back. Excellent two minutes. Thanks to the EFF! Oh good. The video’s back. Excellent two minutes. Thanks to the EFF!

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79643 EH Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79643 There's <a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004662.php">good overview</a> over at talkingpointsmemo. There’s good overview over at talkingpointsmemo.

]]> By: noen http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79662 noen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79662 Congressional Democrats are complicit in dismantling our constitutional rights. They know exactly what is going on in the Bush admin and they don't mind it one bit. They approve of spying on you and they have already taken away your right to a fair trial. They approve of torture and extraordinary rendition even for American citizens. They approve of the war in Iraq and the coming nuclear war with Iran. People think the Dems are afraid or weak. They are not. Dems do not object because they do not object. Congressional Democrats are complicit in dismantling our constitutional rights. They know exactly what is going on in the Bush admin and they don’t mind it one bit. They approve of spying on you and they have already taken away your right to a fair trial. They approve of torture and extraordinary rendition even for American citizens. They approve of the war in Iraq and the coming nuclear war with Iran. People think the Dems are afraid or weak. They are not. Dems do not object because they do not object.

]]> By: sexyrobot http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79666 sexyrobot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79666 there is an alternative...in australia at least...check out their senator on-line project...its kind of badass...<a href="http://senatoronline.com.au/">link</a> and meanwhile, on bb gadgets...a post on how insanely cool the new at&t ads are... like seriously, what. the. fuck? there is an alternative…in australia at least…check out their senator on-line project…its kind of badass…link

and meanwhile, on bb gadgets…a post on how insanely cool the new at&t ads are…

like seriously, what. the. fuck?

]]> By: Adam H http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79671 Adam H Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79671 Hey, boingboing folk, both producers and readers. I'm a student at BU Law School, and would like to try and get Mr. Klein to come and speak at the school about his experiences. However, I have no idea how to get in touch with him. Any ideas? thanks. Hey, boingboing folk, both producers and readers.
I’m a student at BU Law School, and would like to try and get Mr. Klein to come and speak at the school about his experiences.
However, I have no idea how to get in touch with him.

Any ideas?

thanks.

]]> By: Adam H http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79672 Adam H Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79672 testing testing

]]> By: agnot http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79703 agnot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79703 Testing what, our patience!? Testing what, our patience!?

]]> By: Cristóbal Palmer http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79705 Cristóbal Palmer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79705 eff.org link is down for me. Anybody got a mirror? eff.org link is down for me. Anybody got a mirror?

]]> By: Cristóbal Palmer http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79706 Cristóbal Palmer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79706 Scratch that. www.eff.org seems to be down. It responds to ping but not to http requests. Connection times out. Scratch that. http://www.eff.org seems to be down. It responds to ping but not to http requests. Connection times out.

]]> By: sexyrobot http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79715 sexyrobot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79715 maybe it's TOO LATE. ~^ maybe it’s TOO LATE.
~^

]]> By: risser http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79740 risser Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79740 This whole retroactive immunity thing is stupid. I just got a speeding ticket for going 38 in a 25. But, it's a big 4-lane road, I honestly thought it was 35. I told the cop, and he told me it's *my* responsibility as a citizen to know the laws. "I didn't know" just isn't a valid legal defense, and I'm not sure (well, I *am* $$$ure actually) why our elected body is considering defending these entities, which are at best shirkers and are at worse criminals, traitors and/or co-conspriators. This whole retroactive immunity thing is stupid. I just got a speeding ticket for going 38 in a 25. But, it’s a big 4-lane road, I honestly thought it was 35. I told the cop, and he told me it’s *my* responsibility as a citizen to know the laws.

“I didn’t know” just isn’t a valid legal defense, and I’m not sure (well, I *am* $$$ure actually) why our elected body is considering defending these entities, which are at best shirkers and are at worse criminals, traitors and/or co-conspriators.

]]> By: absimiliard http://boingboing.net/2007/11/07/att-wiretapping-your.html#comment-79847 absimiliard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79847 Our elected body is defending these entities because they approve of what they're doing. I agree entirely with Noen. Both the Democrats and Republicans are clearly in favor of expanding executive power, even at the expense of the law and even the Constitution. The Republicans like it because they're in power now, the Democrats because they hope to be in the Executive next time around. In this particular instance I'm sure the contributions of AT&T and other telcos has something to do with the Democrats abandoning their duties to check the other branches of our government. But as a general principle I think they would approve of the Excecutive power-grab anyway. Look at what they have done when we've had a Democratic President for proof. Massive expansion of Executive power via the War-on-Some-Drugs at the expense of the other branches. All par for the course in my opinion. -absimiliard Our elected body is defending these entities because they approve of what they’re doing. I agree entirely with Noen.

Both the Democrats and Republicans are clearly in favor of expanding executive power, even at the expense of the law and even the Constitution. The Republicans like it because they’re in power now, the Democrats because they hope to be in the Executive next time around.

In this particular instance I’m sure the contributions of AT&T and other telcos has something to do with the Democrats abandoning their duties to check the other branches of our government.

But as a general principle I think they would approve of the Excecutive power-grab anyway. Look at what they have done when we’ve had a Democratic President for proof. Massive expansion of Executive power via the War-on-Some-Drugs at the expense of the other branches.

All par for the course in my opinion.

-absimiliard

]]>