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	<title>Comments on: Condo ass. claims copyright on Chicago&#039;s Marina City&#160;Towers</title>
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		<title>By: krylon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80404</link>
		<dc:creator>krylon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the first time I&#039;ve ever heard a condo association referred to in a good light.  

I always thought they were thought of as being harpish nightmares that were made up of people with nothing better to do than make other&#039;s lives miserable, which (coincidentally) seems to be the end run of what they&#039;re trying to do here.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the first time I&#8217;ve ever heard a condo association referred to in a good light.  </p>
<p>I always thought they were thought of as being harpish nightmares that were made up of people with nothing better to do than make other&#8217;s lives miserable, which (coincidentally) seems to be the end run of what they&#8217;re trying to do here.  </p>
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		<title>By: devophill</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80414</link>
		<dc:creator>devophill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;#15 Vlad the Inhaler&lt;/b&gt;- I lol&#039;d and lol&#039;d!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>#15 Vlad the Inhaler</b>- I lol&#8217;d and lol&#8217;d!</p>
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		<title>By: diltsch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80415</link>
		<dc:creator>diltsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/punchintheface/400px-Marina_City--Chicago_Illinois.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: devophill</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80416</link>
		<dc:creator>devophill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, by frequency I&#039;d say TNH was going for Glia Maturation Factor, Beta. A bank? Not likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, by frequency I&#8217;d say TNH was going for Glia Maturation Factor, Beta. A bank? Not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidehike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80420</link>
		<dc:creator>Sidehike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zooomr.com/photos/37819@Z01/2431218/&quot;&gt;Don&#039;t sue me, bro!&lt;/a&gt;

...Or the other 1200 people who take the architectural boat tour each day. (Which I highly recommend!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/37819@Z01/2431218/">Don&#8217;t sue me, bro!</a></p>
<p>&#8230;Or the other 1200 people who take the architectural boat tour each day. (Which I highly recommend!)</p>
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		<title>By: klg19</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80424</link>
		<dc:creator>klg19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;most of you coasters will recognize the buildings from the cover of Wilco&#039;s YHF)&lt;/i&gt;

Really?  Not from &quot;The Bob Newhart Show&quot;?

Damn, I feel OLD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>most of you coasters will recognize the buildings from the cover of Wilco&#8217;s YHF)</i></p>
<p>Really?  Not from &#8220;The Bob Newhart Show&#8221;?</p>
<p>Damn, I feel OLD.</p>
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		<title>By: bonabo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-81266</link>
		<dc:creator>bonabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They look cool from a distance, but up close they are butt-ugly.  Bare rough concrete and no street presence.  And they are an obstacle to walking around the city.  When you hit these buildings the sidewalk dead ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They look cool from a distance, but up close they are butt-ugly.  Bare rough concrete and no street presence.  And they are an obstacle to walking around the city.  When you hit these buildings the sidewalk dead ends.</p>
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		<title>By: duus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80249</link>
		<dc:creator>duus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I tell others about what the building looks like.  Is that okay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I tell others about what the building looks like.  Is that okay?</p>
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		<title>By: Giovanni</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80256</link>
		<dc:creator>Giovanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should have shock troops that guard the buildings, if someone takes a glace without paying, or is a &quot;glance pirate&quot; so to speak, out comes the taser.

Everyone with a taser wins!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should have shock troops that guard the buildings, if someone takes a glace without paying, or is a &#8220;glance pirate&#8221; so to speak, out comes the taser.</p>
<p>Everyone with a taser wins!</p>
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		<title>By: chasie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80257</link>
		<dc:creator>chasie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serious Headline Tip: Use assn. to abbreviate association.

Frivolous headline tip: If an association is doing something stupid, abbreviate it with &quot;ass.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serious Headline Tip: Use assn. to abbreviate association.</p>
<p>Frivolous headline tip: If an association is doing something stupid, abbreviate it with &#8220;ass.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Spherical Time</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80260</link>
		<dc:creator>Spherical Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s absolutely hilarious.  In one of the links, they extensively cover copyright involving buildings, and it specifically does &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; cover photographs of buildings from public places.

You&#039;d think that they would have at least tried to familiarize themselves with the law before trying to make broad declarations about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s absolutely hilarious.  In one of the links, they extensively cover copyright involving buildings, and it specifically does <em>not</em> cover photographs of buildings from public places.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that they would have at least tried to familiarize themselves with the law before trying to make broad declarations about it.</p>
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		<title>By: EricT</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80263</link>
		<dc:creator>EricT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.  Fortunatly I have a very good friend who owns one of the Condos there.  In fact we stayed in it last summer.  Very nice.
SO I will ask him what he thinks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.  Fortunatly I have a very good friend who owns one of the Condos there.  In fact we stayed in it last summer.  Very nice.<br />
SO I will ask him what he thinks</p>
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		<title>By: duus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80264</link>
		<dc:creator>duus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s not my fault i have this kamera on my eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s not my fault i have this kamera on my eye.</p>
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		<title>By: bbum</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80266</link>
		<dc:creator>bbum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like it is about time for a Chicago Photographer&#039;s Field Trip!!!

If I still lived in Chi-town, I&#039;d be there in a heartbeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it is about time for a Chicago Photographer&#8217;s Field Trip!!!</p>
<p>If I still lived in Chi-town, I&#8217;d be there in a heartbeat.</p>
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		<title>By: richard61</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80268</link>
		<dc:creator>richard61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this was solved in Cleveland, Ohio a number of years ago.  A photographer produced a poster of the rock &#039;n roll hall of fame and was sued for infringement of the hall of fame&#039;s trademark.   

The photographer won. 

Here&#039;s the decision from the UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT 

http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/IP/trademark/rock_and_roll.htm

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this was solved in Cleveland, Ohio a number of years ago.  A photographer produced a poster of the rock &#8216;n roll hall of fame and was sued for infringement of the hall of fame&#8217;s trademark.   </p>
<p>The photographer won. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the decision from the UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT </p>
<p><a href="http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/IP/trademark/rock_and_roll.htm" rel="nofollow">http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/IP/trademark/rock_and_roll.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80275</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The giant corncobs are copyrighted? GMFB. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The giant corncobs are copyrighted? GMFB. </p>
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		<title>By: Spidercoz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80276</link>
		<dc:creator>Spidercoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happened to flash mobs? I live in Chicago and am perfectly willing to find as many people as I can to head down there and snap some photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to flash mobs? I live in Chicago and am perfectly willing to find as many people as I can to head down there and snap some photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Tirjasdyn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80280</link>
		<dc:creator>Tirjasdyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t copyright a name...not even a fictional one.

I don&#039;t think they even read the memo on copyright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t copyright a name&#8230;not even a fictional one.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they even read the memo on copyright.</p>
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		<title>By: Spherical Time</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80285</link>
		<dc:creator>Spherical Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does GMFB mean, Teresa?  Perhaps Give me (a) F***ing Break?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does GMFB mean, Teresa?  Perhaps Give me (a) F***ing Break?</p>
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		<title>By: doggo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80287</link>
		<dc:creator>doggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes! I almost posted a photo I took of one of the towers on my web site. Good thing I didn&#039;t, I don&#039;t have the resources to deal with any kind of legal action, warranted or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes! I almost posted a photo I took of one of the towers on my web site. Good thing I didn&#8217;t, I don&#8217;t have the resources to deal with any kind of legal action, warranted or not.</p>
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		<title>By: deejayqueue</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80289</link>
		<dc:creator>deejayqueue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t Chicago where that giant chrome Bean is too?  The one that the cops will stop you from taking a picture of because people sell postcards of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t Chicago where that giant chrome Bean is too?  The one that the cops will stop you from taking a picture of because people sell postcards of it?</p>
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		<title>By: duus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80804</link>
		<dc:creator>duus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#26:  sorry, wasn&#039;t trying to break your heart.

GOOD LORD THE YHF PUNS KEEP COMING! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#26:  sorry, wasn&#8217;t trying to break your heart.</p>
<p>GOOD LORD THE YHF PUNS KEEP COMING! </p>
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		<title>By: Mavis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80297</link>
		<dc:creator>Mavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people need a hard and vigorous slapping.  Seriously. 

According to the Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. Â§ 301. 

&quot;Preemption with respect to other laws

(a) On and after January 1, 1978, all legal or equitable rights that are equivalent to any of the exclusive rights within the general scope of copyright as specified by section 106 in works of authorship that are fixed in a tangible medium of expression and come within the subject matter of copyright as specified by sections 102 and 103, whether created before or after that date and whether published or unpublished, are governed exclusively by this title. Thereafter, no person is entitled to any such right or equivalent right in any such work under the common law or statutes of any State.&quot;

While there&#039;s an exception for state landmarks and historical sites protected under Sec. 102, I seriously doubt that the condo association has any right in the building.  

On a side note, that building is awesome.  I love passing by it everytime I go to Chicago. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people need a hard and vigorous slapping.  Seriously. </p>
<p>According to the Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. Â§ 301. </p>
<p>&#8220;Preemption with respect to other laws</p>
<p>(a) On and after January 1, 1978, all legal or equitable rights that are equivalent to any of the exclusive rights within the general scope of copyright as specified by section 106 in works of authorship that are fixed in a tangible medium of expression and come within the subject matter of copyright as specified by sections 102 and 103, whether created before or after that date and whether published or unpublished, are governed exclusively by this title. Thereafter, no person is entitled to any such right or equivalent right in any such work under the common law or statutes of any State.&#8221;</p>
<p>While there&#8217;s an exception for state landmarks and historical sites protected under Sec. 102, I seriously doubt that the condo association has any right in the building.  </p>
<p>On a side note, that building is awesome.  I love passing by it everytime I go to Chicago. </p>
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		<title>By: Mavis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80301</link>
		<dc:creator>Mavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add... Sec. 301 means that there is no longer a common law, or state copyright.  Meh. Need more coffee. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add&#8230; Sec. 301 means that there is no longer a common law, or state copyright.  Meh. Need more coffee. </p>
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		<title>By: M Saunders</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80339</link>
		<dc:creator>M Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* They mean trademark, not copyright. If I had a nickel for every time people confused the two, I&#039;d have.... exactly thirty five dollars and twenty cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* They mean trademark, not copyright. If I had a nickel for every time people confused the two, I&#8217;d have&#8230;. exactly thirty five dollars and twenty cents.</p>
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		<title>By: coop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80341</link>
		<dc:creator>coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, &#039;the bean&#039; (officially known as Cloud Gate) is there, but the last time I was there (May 2007) the guards were &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; shooing people away.

Instead they were buffing it up after people pressed their noses to it. 

Kept it nice and shiny for the photographers. It seemed very civilised to me.

coop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, &#8216;the bean&#8217; (officially known as Cloud Gate) is there, but the last time I was there (May 2007) the guards were <i>not</i> shooing people away.</p>
<p>Instead they were buffing it up after people pressed their noses to it. </p>
<p>Kept it nice and shiny for the photographers. It seemed very civilised to me.</p>
<p>coop</p>
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		<title>By: Eutychus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/11/09/condo-ass-claims-cop.html#comment-80349</link>
		<dc:creator>Eutychus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry. &lt;a href=&quot;http://rennesleshorizons.online.fr/Immeuble_Les_Horizons_photographies.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;these ones&lt;/a&gt; are just as nice, much nearer to me and still photographable legally :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry. <a href="http://rennesleshorizons.online.fr/Immeuble_Les_Horizons_photographies.php" target="_blank">these ones</a> are just as nice, much nearer to me and still photographable legally :)</p>
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