Comments on: Miro 1.0: the free and open future of video on the net http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 13:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Chasqui http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81685 Chasqui Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81685 Downloading the new version as I type. Feeling the love for Miro. No odd Joost interface, no DRM, make-your-own RSS chanels... what is not to love. I agree that the beta is a resource hog... hopefully lighter in 1.0x Adam C - there is a LOT of content out there... I don't think you are getting the most out of the program's capabilities. Downloading the new version as I type. Feeling the love for Miro. No odd Joost interface, no DRM, make-your-own RSS chanels… what is not to love. I agree that the beta is a resource hog… hopefully lighter in 1.0x
Adam C – there is a LOT of content out there… I don’t think you are getting the most out of the program’s capabilities.

]]> By: Rodney http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81961 Rodney Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81961 @ Likemindead: http://bugzilla.pculture.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9064 @ Likemindead:
http://bugzilla.pculture.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9064

]]> By: mokey http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81965 mokey Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81965 yeah, it's a resource hog for me, especially because i'm a scrub and got an old ass machine. i can't even watch videos in the player; i have to wait until the download's finished and open it in VLC independently. yeah, it’s a resource hog for me, especially because i’m a scrub and got an old ass machine. i can’t even watch videos in the player; i have to wait until the download’s finished and open it in VLC independently.

]]> By: mattl http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81724 mattl Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81724 From the article: "It's created by the Participatory Culture Foundation, which is devoted to making online video more open ... In contrast to closed, proprietary delivery systems, Miro embraces open standards and DRM-free video..." From the Miro web page: "How do I use Miro? This video gives a quick overview ... <b>Get the Flash Player to see this player</b>." :( From the article: “It’s created by the Participatory Culture Foundation, which is devoted to making online video more open … In contrast to closed, proprietary delivery systems, Miro embraces open standards and DRM-free video…”

From the Miro web page: “How do I use Miro? This video gives a quick overview … Get the Flash Player to see this player.”

:(

]]> By: Adam C http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81725 Adam C Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81725 Chasqui, Is there streaming network programming available legally for Miro? Chasqui,
Is there streaming network programming available legally for Miro?

]]> By: Andrew Denny http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81734 Andrew Denny Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81734 Like all of Apple's output (Quicktime, iTunes etc), Miro 1.0 doesn't support my hi-res HD (150dpi) laptop screen. When are developers going to realise that we'll never reach the paperless nirvana until they start supporting hi-res screens? At least Microsoft realise this, which is why I still use WMP. Like all of Apple’s output (Quicktime, iTunes etc), Miro 1.0 doesn’t support my hi-res HD (150dpi) laptop screen.

When are developers going to realise that we’ll never reach the paperless nirvana until they start supporting hi-res screens? At least Microsoft realise this, which is why I still use WMP.

]]> By: fALk http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81740 fALk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81740 no streaming. still. get back to me when the couch potatoes can be couch potatoes and don´t have to be loading bar staring geeks. perhaps miro should try to develop a free open p2p video streaming protocol that can use h264 vids at it source - everything else is a waste of internet time. no streaming. still.

get back to me when the couch potatoes can be couch potatoes and don´t have to be loading bar staring geeks.

perhaps miro should try to develop a free open p2p video streaming protocol that can use h264 vids at it source – everything else is a waste of internet time.

]]> By: Brian Damage http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81756 Brian Damage Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81756 @FALK If I'm not mistaken, Miro uses Bittorrent which means that pieces of video files are downloaded out of order. I don't think it's possible to enable streaming with Bittorrent, plus quality and resolution are greatly limited when you're at the mercy of your download transfer rate. A few months ago I made the decision to keep Miro loaded 24/7 and now I always have tons of HD content ready to be watched immediately. @FALK

If I’m not mistaken, Miro uses Bittorrent which means that pieces of video files are downloaded out of order. I don’t think it’s possible to enable streaming with Bittorrent, plus quality and resolution are greatly limited when you’re at the mercy of your download transfer rate. A few months ago I made the decision to keep Miro loaded 24/7 and now I always have tons of HD content ready to be watched immediately.

]]> By: likemindead http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81797 likemindead Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81797 Not working for me in Ubuntu Gutsy. Program closes 30 seconds after you start it. :( Not working for me in Ubuntu Gutsy. Program closes 30 seconds after you start it.

:(

]]> By: Neddy Seagoon http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81844 Neddy Seagoon Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81844 I remember the hype over Democracy. "Great" I thought, "I'll be happy to use that!". It crashed, it stuttered, it wouldn't play half the stuff I threw at it, and all the online stuff available for it was so lame as to defy description. Now it's Miro. I tried it that last time there was an enthusiastic announcement (on Mac OS 10.3.9, PowerPC) and it crashed with great reliability. IMnsHO it's not worth the effort. I'll stick with the "free and open" MPlayer, thanks. I remember the hype over Democracy. “Great” I thought, “I’ll be happy to use that!”. It crashed, it stuttered, it wouldn’t play half the stuff I threw at it, and all the online stuff available for it was so lame as to defy description.

Now it’s Miro. I tried it that last time there was an enthusiastic announcement (on Mac OS 10.3.9, PowerPC) and it crashed with great reliability.

IMnsHO it’s not worth the effort. I’ll stick with the “free and open” MPlayer, thanks.

]]> By: Stu Mark http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81595 Stu Mark Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81595 Cory, good for you on that last part. Very sweet, very smart. Old folks need new media, just as surely as young folks need to experience older forms of entertainment and information. Dig it. Cory, good for you on that last part. Very sweet, very smart. Old folks need new media, just as surely as young folks need to experience older forms of entertainment and information. Dig it.

]]> By: Pyros http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81604 Pyros Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81604 Very nice. Very nice.

]]> By: Adam C http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81605 Adam C Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81605 The application is great, but the content is still lacking. Until high quality content is available Miro will be a niche program. The application is great, but the content is still lacking. Until high quality content is available Miro will be a niche program.

]]> By: sunoxen http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81609 sunoxen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81609 IS there any way to get that nice black theme on the Mac? IS there any way to get that nice black theme on the Mac?

]]> By: Pinwiz http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81614 Pinwiz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81614 Is it less of a resource hog than earlier versions? Is it less of a resource hog than earlier versions?

]]> By: Kyle Armbruster http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-82126 Kyle Armbruster Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82126 It's a mediocre BT client, a mediocre video player, and a mediocre media center--all in one! Seriously, I don't know anyone (and I know a lot of geeks) who have given this much more than a passing look. Grab a good BT client and a good video player, and don't be forced to run both at once with a silly media center overhead. It’s a mediocre BT client, a mediocre video player, and a mediocre media center–all in one!

Seriously, I don’t know anyone (and I know a lot of geeks) who have given this much more than a passing look. Grab a good BT client and a good video player, and don’t be forced to run both at once with a silly media center overhead.

]]> By: Ralph Giles http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81618 Ralph Giles Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81618 Note that in addition to the proprietary and patent encumbered formats advertised in the graphic, Miro supports Ogg Theora, which is an actual free and open video format for the free and open video format of the future. :) Note that in addition to the proprietary and patent encumbered formats advertised in the graphic, Miro supports Ogg Theora, which is an actual free and open video format for the free and open video format of the future. :)

]]> By: Zachariah http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81619 Zachariah Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81619 Is there anyway to make it start with Windows, but only in the tray, instead of being an open window? Is there anyway to make it start with Windows, but only in the tray, instead of being an open window?

]]> By: Kevlar http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81624 Kevlar Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81624 Just in time for the writers' strike. Just in time for the writers’ strike.

]]> By: dalasv http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81625 dalasv Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81625 I don't like how this is being pitched as "an alternative to Joost" (by Miro, as well). Isn't the web big enough for more than one video service? I don’t like how this is being pitched as “an alternative to Joost” (by Miro, as well). Isn’t the web big enough for more than one video service?

]]> By: Giovanni http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81881 Giovanni Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81881 I second many of the questions here. Is it more efficient than previous versions? I don't need a media player that takes up 200 MBs of ram to sit in the background and burn cpu cycles. I second many of the questions here. Is it more efficient than previous versions? I don’t need a media player that takes up 200 MBs of ram to sit in the background and burn cpu cycles.

]]> By: method77 http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81646 method77 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81646 I would use it if it was lighter I would use it if it was lighter

]]> By: Burz http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/miro-10-the-free-and.html#comment-81651 Burz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81651 Dalasv: "Alternative" implies there there is room for more than one. Others: Can Miro handle podcasts yet?? I'm still having to use iTunes for some "free and open" shows because the last Miro didn't handle podcasts. It also didn't handle Youtube feeds. Dalasv: “Alternative” implies there there is room for more than one.

Others: Can Miro handle podcasts yet?? I’m still having to use iTunes for some “free and open” shows because the last Miro didn’t handle podcasts. It also didn’t handle Youtube feeds.

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