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	<title>Comments on: Western Digital network drives crippled -- no serving any multimedia&#160;files</title>
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		<title>By: danegeld</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89601</link>
		<dc:creator>danegeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a gobsmackingly stupid idea.

I&#039;ve got a Western Digital 250Gb drive from a few years ago that I am planning to upgrade as it&#039;s nearly full. Guess which company I&#039;m not getting that upgrade from?

I&#039;ve no use for a storage device that will decide on it&#039;s own behalf what is or is not acceptable content. Western Digital can&#039;t presume to know whether I&#039;m infringing a third party copyright by storing a given MP3 file, or whether the file is specifically CC licensed, or whether I recorded it myself?

It&#039;s deceptively marketed as being able to store up to 250,000 MP3 files (* will not operate correctly with MP3 files)

Western Digital realises it&#039;s got around five years to a decade to extract money from Hard Drive sales before they&#039;re made obsolete by flash storage, energy costs and MRAM, right?

Are there no be shareholders or employees at Western Digital who want to keep their company profitable and avoid a public relations melt-down?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a gobsmackingly stupid idea.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a Western Digital 250Gb drive from a few years ago that I am planning to upgrade as it&#8217;s nearly full. Guess which company I&#8217;m not getting that upgrade from?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no use for a storage device that will decide on it&#8217;s own behalf what is or is not acceptable content. Western Digital can&#8217;t presume to know whether I&#8217;m infringing a third party copyright by storing a given MP3 file, or whether the file is specifically CC licensed, or whether I recorded it myself?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s deceptively marketed as being able to store up to 250,000 MP3 files (* will not operate correctly with MP3 files)</p>
<p>Western Digital realises it&#8217;s got around five years to a decade to extract money from Hard Drive sales before they&#8217;re made obsolete by flash storage, energy costs and MRAM, right?</p>
<p>Are there no be shareholders or employees at Western Digital who want to keep their company profitable and avoid a public relations melt-down?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Cartwright</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89603</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but this just prevents the SHARING of any multimedia files through remote internet access with people other than the original uploader?  And this is only when using the remote-access &quot;WD Anywhere Access&quot; program.

From what I can tell, it&#039;s run on a user-based system, and 1 user can&#039;t access those filetypes that other users uploaded.  The original uploader can access whatever they want on the drive from wherever they are, so COOP, everything they&#039;re saying there is true.

If you don&#039;t use the WD Anywhere Access software, there&#039;s no restrictions on anything.

This is from about 30 seconds of research, but is this right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but this just prevents the SHARING of any multimedia files through remote internet access with people other than the original uploader?  And this is only when using the remote-access &#8220;WD Anywhere Access&#8221; program.</p>
<p>From what I can tell, it&#8217;s run on a user-based system, and 1 user can&#8217;t access those filetypes that other users uploaded.  The original uploader can access whatever they want on the drive from wherever they are, so COOP, everything they&#8217;re saying there is true.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t use the WD Anywhere Access software, there&#8217;s no restrictions on anything.</p>
<p>This is from about 30 seconds of research, but is this right?</p>
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		<title>By: CapnMarrrrk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89605</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnMarrrrk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid Question, but can&#039;t you just reformat the drive and use your own networking apps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid Question, but can&#8217;t you just reformat the drive and use your own networking apps?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Cartwright</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89606</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify - I still think this is pretty ridiculous, but it&#039;s not like it&#039;s not really really really trivial to get around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify &#8211; I still think this is pretty ridiculous, but it&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s not really really really trivial to get around.</p>
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		<title>By: Mechalith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89607</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechalith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few things infuriate me more than my own systems telling me I&#039;m not allowed to do something perfectly reasonable. (share my own video files with my local network for instance) The tech industry love-affair with DRM needs to stop, and unless WD changes this I&#039;m not likely to ever purchase their products again.

That said, I think the limitation is a function of their bundled software, not the drive itself. (I&#039;ve sent their customer service/tech support guys an email asking for clarification to be sure)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few things infuriate me more than my own systems telling me I&#8217;m not allowed to do something perfectly reasonable. (share my own video files with my local network for instance) The tech industry love-affair with DRM needs to stop, and unless WD changes this I&#8217;m not likely to ever purchase their products again.</p>
<p>That said, I think the limitation is a function of their bundled software, not the drive itself. (I&#8217;ve sent their customer service/tech support guys an email asking for clarification to be sure)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Carnell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89611</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Carnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own one of these and use it to host my 800gbs of MP3s. Frankly, its a piece of shit. Getting ready to replace it with a different NAS enclosure.

Saying you can&#039;t share MP3s would require that the WD Anywhere software actually worked, which it doesn&#039;t most of the time (in fact they had a complete outage of the system for several weeks a few months back).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own one of these and use it to host my 800gbs of MP3s. Frankly, its a piece of shit. Getting ready to replace it with a different NAS enclosure.</p>
<p>Saying you can&#8217;t share MP3s would require that the WD Anywhere software actually worked, which it doesn&#8217;t most of the time (in fact they had a complete outage of the system for several weeks a few months back).</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89618</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Western Digital:

hard drives
now suck ass

we can not buy from them

*sob sob sob*

i guess if you want something done right, make your own hard drives from scratch.  Preach it, Father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Western Digital:</p>
<p>hard drives<br />
now suck ass</p>
<p>we can not buy from them</p>
<p>*sob sob sob*</p>
<p>i guess if you want something done right, make your own hard drives from scratch.  Preach it, Father.</p>
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		<title>By: Tubman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89620</link>
		<dc:creator>Tubman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this does have a certain farcical quality about it, I don&#039;t think the lawyers were necessarily being over-cautious.

If, as DarrylB says, a subscription is required for shared remote access, then a WD server is obviously in the loop during data transfer. That means WD would be at least as liable to legal action as a torrent tracker if they didn&#039;t cover themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this does have a certain farcical quality about it, I don&#8217;t think the lawyers were necessarily being over-cautious.</p>
<p>If, as DarrylB says, a subscription is required for shared remote access, then a WD server is obviously in the loop during data transfer. That means WD would be at least as liable to legal action as a torrent tracker if they didn&#8217;t cover themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: nex</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89621</link>
		<dc:creator>nex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is related to a rather specific feature of the device, it&#039;s not like you can&#039;t put any file you like on there (except it&#039;s larger than 1TB ;-) and make it accessible to anyone. Which makes this restriction all the more silly. User-hostile (read: customer-hostile) DRM would be bad enough, but this is just random crippling of usability and does nothing about &#039;digital rights&#039; whatsoever. Note to self: Don&#039;t buy a Western Digital product, &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt;. I&#039;m dead serious about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is related to a rather specific feature of the device, it&#8217;s not like you can&#8217;t put any file you like on there (except it&#8217;s larger than 1TB ;-) and make it accessible to anyone. Which makes this restriction all the more silly. User-hostile (read: customer-hostile) DRM would be bad enough, but this is just random crippling of usability and does nothing about &#8216;digital rights&#8217; whatsoever. Note to self: Don&#8217;t buy a Western Digital product, <em>ever</em>. I&#8217;m dead serious about that.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkfu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89879</link>
		<dc:creator>pinkfu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for fuck&#039;s sake.</description>
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		<title>By: GlennWebber</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89627</link>
		<dc:creator>GlennWebber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is only on the MyBook drives, why not just purchase the bare drive and an external enclosure of your own choosing?

I have never bought anything other than WD hard drives because of their reliability. I don&#039;t see myself changing brands over one product line. If those aren&#039;t selling, they&#039;ll either discontinue them or remove the restrictions.

Vote with your wallet, but consider all the options first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is only on the MyBook drives, why not just purchase the bare drive and an external enclosure of your own choosing?</p>
<p>I have never bought anything other than WD hard drives because of their reliability. I don&#8217;t see myself changing brands over one product line. If those aren&#8217;t selling, they&#8217;ll either discontinue them or remove the restrictions.</p>
<p>Vote with your wallet, but consider all the options first.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Doctorow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89636</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Doctorow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father Brown@18:

One of the most persistent misunderstandings of the workings of a free market economy is the bizarre belief that people who are disappointed with the quality fo goods or services shouldn&#039;t talk about it. Free markets rely on customers who are well informed about the quality of vendors&#039; wares so that they can pick the good ones and therefore punish the bad ones.

Writing about bad products discourages people from buying them, which discourages manufacturers from making them, which improves the market.

What you&#039;re describing has nothing to do with the market. In the market, customers have a remedy beyond &quot;start your own superior company&quot; -- that remedy is &quot;don&#039;t buy shoddy wares and help your neighbors avoid them, too.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father Brown@18:</p>
<p>One of the most persistent misunderstandings of the workings of a free market economy is the bizarre belief that people who are disappointed with the quality fo goods or services shouldn&#8217;t talk about it. Free markets rely on customers who are well informed about the quality of vendors&#8217; wares so that they can pick the good ones and therefore punish the bad ones.</p>
<p>Writing about bad products discourages people from buying them, which discourages manufacturers from making them, which improves the market.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re describing has nothing to do with the market. In the market, customers have a remedy beyond &#8220;start your own superior company&#8221; &#8212; that remedy is &#8220;don&#8217;t buy shoddy wares and help your neighbors avoid them, too.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89640</link>
		<dc:creator>OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...What sucks about this is that WD is pretty much the only drive manufacturer I trust these days WRT drive longevity. Seagate has a history of fab contamination - they can&#039;t keep from hiring undocumented workers as janitors who in turn can&#039;t read the &quot;Do not use this solvent!&quot; warnings in the clean rooms - which renders their drives unto boat anchors within 18 months guaranteed, and since they bought Maxtor, that leaves Fujitsu as the only halfway-safe alternative. WD drives may not be the fastest, but they last a lot longer. I&#039;ve got a pile of all the drives that have crapped out on me over the past 20 years, and out of the 22 all but THREE are Seagates, and only -ONE- is a WD.

...That being said, rest assured someone&#039;ll issue a patch to get around this crap within a week. Stay tuned to Boing Boing for further updates :p
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;What sucks about this is that WD is pretty much the only drive manufacturer I trust these days WRT drive longevity. Seagate has a history of fab contamination &#8211; they can&#8217;t keep from hiring undocumented workers as janitors who in turn can&#8217;t read the &#8220;Do not use this solvent!&#8221; warnings in the clean rooms &#8211; which renders their drives unto boat anchors within 18 months guaranteed, and since they bought Maxtor, that leaves Fujitsu as the only halfway-safe alternative. WD drives may not be the fastest, but they last a lot longer. I&#8217;ve got a pile of all the drives that have crapped out on me over the past 20 years, and out of the 22 all but THREE are Seagates, and only -ONE- is a WD.</p>
<p>&#8230;That being said, rest assured someone&#8217;ll issue a patch to get around this crap within a week. Stay tuned to Boing Boing for further updates :p</p>
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		<title>By: Unka Willbur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89650</link>
		<dc:creator>Unka Willbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s far cheaper just to by a bare drive and stick it in a sub-100 dollar PC (running OSS), than to buy  one of these over-priced 9and now we know) crippled POSes. &lt;i&gt;Especially if&lt;/i&gt; you&#039;re spending your Company&#039;s money. 

No &lt;strike&gt; tag? tsk.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s far cheaper just to by a bare drive and stick it in a sub-100 dollar PC (running OSS), than to buy  one of these over-priced 9and now we know) crippled POSes. <i>Especially if</i> you&#8217;re spending your Company&#8217;s money. </p>
<p>No &lt;strike&gt; tag? tsk.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: thejynxed</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89908</link>
		<dc:creator>thejynxed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason these drives suck:

2 MB Cache, sometimes when 8 or even 16 are advertised on the box. It&#039;s a crapshoot on what you actually get.

IDE native interface connected to A)USB 2.0 (defaults to 1.1) or B)Firewire C)Cat5 (I have seen all three versions at my local WalMart)

7200 RPM instead of 10,000 RPM like it should be (again a crapshoot, some actually ARE 10,000 RPM, and some have even measured out at 5400 RPM)

Buggy drive controller circuits (This is a problem with WD drives above 320 GB - it&#039;s almost like they hacked on the ability to deal with anything over 320 instead of designing a new controller)

The network controller interface on the enclosure is set to work at only the minimum connection rate on most home wireless routers that have NAS capability - 1/2 instead of 10/100/1000 via ethernet.

There&#039;s some other issues people mentioned as well, such as faulty software. Cooling is a big issue with these NAS devices from WD. They run hot.

My best guess is, on the manufacturing line, they are using surplus notebook drives as well as the normal hard drives they should be and claim that they are using. No offense to manufacturing stuff in mainland China, but this happens more often now that production takes place there instead of in Malaysia, Singapore and Taiwan where WD used to have their drives made.

Another note: They do 1 TB by putting in dual 2.5&quot; 500 GB drives and the controller in the enclosure reports them as a single drive to your system. Don&#039;t let them fool you. I&#039;ve taken a few of these apart so I could scavenge the drives and toss the junk enclosure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason these drives suck:</p>
<p>2 MB Cache, sometimes when 8 or even 16 are advertised on the box. It&#8217;s a crapshoot on what you actually get.</p>
<p>IDE native interface connected to A)USB 2.0 (defaults to 1.1) or B)Firewire C)Cat5 (I have seen all three versions at my local WalMart)</p>
<p>7200 RPM instead of 10,000 RPM like it should be (again a crapshoot, some actually ARE 10,000 RPM, and some have even measured out at 5400 RPM)</p>
<p>Buggy drive controller circuits (This is a problem with WD drives above 320 GB &#8211; it&#8217;s almost like they hacked on the ability to deal with anything over 320 instead of designing a new controller)</p>
<p>The network controller interface on the enclosure is set to work at only the minimum connection rate on most home wireless routers that have NAS capability &#8211; 1/2 instead of 10/100/1000 via ethernet.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some other issues people mentioned as well, such as faulty software. Cooling is a big issue with these NAS devices from WD. They run hot.</p>
<p>My best guess is, on the manufacturing line, they are using surplus notebook drives as well as the normal hard drives they should be and claim that they are using. No offense to manufacturing stuff in mainland China, but this happens more often now that production takes place there instead of in Malaysia, Singapore and Taiwan where WD used to have their drives made.</p>
<p>Another note: They do 1 TB by putting in dual 2.5&#8243; 500 GB drives and the controller in the enclosure reports them as a single drive to your system. Don&#8217;t let them fool you. I&#8217;ve taken a few of these apart so I could scavenge the drives and toss the junk enclosure.</p>
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		<title>By: wolfwitch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89656</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfwitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wording of this is a bit misleading...

After actually reading the information about this product- this makes sense. It has nothing to do with whether or not you can access your own files. They simply won&#039;t allow you to share them with anyone else. Their system allows file sharing over the Internet for other files. They just don&#039;t want to be sued by the RIAA and MPAA, or by an idiot that shares their media files and gets sued.

In short- if YOU plug this drive into your network- YOU can access all of YOUR files using YOUR login credentials from anywhere. That&#039;s pretty much what you want from NAS anyway. There are lots of other options if you want to plug a drive into the Internet and let anyone access it. If you really want to do that- the folks at PirateBay would probably like to talk to you, with the RIAA and MPAA close behind.

You can do more for less money with an older or cheap bare-bones laptop, a couple of 500GB SATA drives in USB2 enclosures, and Open Source software anyway.

WD is one of the few companies I&#039;ll still buy drives from, and I don&#039;t think they have done anything deceptive or wrong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wording of this is a bit misleading&#8230;</p>
<p>After actually reading the information about this product- this makes sense. It has nothing to do with whether or not you can access your own files. They simply won&#8217;t allow you to share them with anyone else. Their system allows file sharing over the Internet for other files. They just don&#8217;t want to be sued by the RIAA and MPAA, or by an idiot that shares their media files and gets sued.</p>
<p>In short- if YOU plug this drive into your network- YOU can access all of YOUR files using YOUR login credentials from anywhere. That&#8217;s pretty much what you want from NAS anyway. There are lots of other options if you want to plug a drive into the Internet and let anyone access it. If you really want to do that- the folks at PirateBay would probably like to talk to you, with the RIAA and MPAA close behind.</p>
<p>You can do more for less money with an older or cheap bare-bones laptop, a couple of 500GB SATA drives in USB2 enclosures, and Open Source software anyway.</p>
<p>WD is one of the few companies I&#8217;ll still buy drives from, and I don&#8217;t think they have done anything deceptive or wrong here.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Swimm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89665</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Swimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats even odder is the fact you cant share any of the tracker formats.. Are people that worried about synth rips off old paula abdul tracks?</description>
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		<title>By: Sparkstalker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89923</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparkstalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#48

Some could argue that the drive itself is crippled...after all, it is from Western Digital.  The same HDD company that only offers a three year warranty, whereas their major competitor (Seagate) offers a five year warranty for the same price.</description>
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<p>Some could argue that the drive itself is crippled&#8230;after all, it is from Western Digital.  The same HDD company that only offers a three year warranty, whereas their major competitor (Seagate) offers a five year warranty for the same price.</p>
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		<title>By: monopole</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89675</link>
		<dc:creator>monopole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? All those *.txt files are pirated ebooks anyway! 

Finally a good argument to transcode everything to  OGG Vorbis/Theora files. 

That or encode everything in PGP container files. 

Every time the MAFIAA pushes these things they just make transfer and sharing that much more robust. 

What happens when drives no longer contain avi, divx, mp3, mpeg etc. files for the MAFIAA to scan for? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? All those *.txt files are pirated ebooks anyway! </p>
<p>Finally a good argument to transcode everything to  OGG Vorbis/Theora files. </p>
<p>That or encode everything in PGP container files. </p>
<p>Every time the MAFIAA pushes these things they just make transfer and sharing that much more robust. </p>
<p>What happens when drives no longer contain avi, divx, mp3, mpeg etc. files for the MAFIAA to scan for? </p>
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		<title>By: starscalling</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89683</link>
		<dc:creator>starscalling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look dorks - those things are too expensive anyway
get a $40 case with a $60 mobo/cpu combo add in 512MB ram and add hard drives. install debian linux stable / or ubuntu for newbies and you have a much more functional box - 130-140 for the box/ps/mobo/cpu/ram and spend the rest on hdd&#039;s. 4TB worth should be fairly cheap - 800 bucks about?

BEAT THAT WD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look dorks &#8211; those things are too expensive anyway<br />
get a $40 case with a $60 mobo/cpu combo add in 512MB ram and add hard drives. install debian linux stable / or ubuntu for newbies and you have a much more functional box &#8211; 130-140 for the box/ps/mobo/cpu/ram and spend the rest on hdd&#8217;s. 4TB worth should be fairly cheap &#8211; 800 bucks about?</p>
<p>BEAT THAT WD</p>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89686</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Father Brown:

Ah yes, the free market objection. There&#039;s one in every crowd.

Let&#039;s set aside the unrealistic and somewhat farsical suggestion to &quot;start your own gosh-darned hard drive company&quot; and look at the other alternative pointed out by Cory, namely going somewhere else for the product.

This assumes, of course, that there IS somewhere else. Sometimes there is, sometimes there ain&#039;t. And demand may produce supply; then again it may not. An alternative also may not appear for years.

PS: I notice you used &quot;gosh-darned&quot; instead of &quot;Goddamned,&quot; but have no compunction about using the insulting words &quot;whining and sniveling.&quot; Feel free to self-edit some of &lt;I&gt;those&lt;/I&gt; terms from your posts, too, please. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Father Brown:</p>
<p>Ah yes, the free market objection. There&#8217;s one in every crowd.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s set aside the unrealistic and somewhat farsical suggestion to &#8220;start your own gosh-darned hard drive company&#8221; and look at the other alternative pointed out by Cory, namely going somewhere else for the product.</p>
<p>This assumes, of course, that there IS somewhere else. Sometimes there is, sometimes there ain&#8217;t. And demand may produce supply; then again it may not. An alternative also may not appear for years.</p>
<p>PS: I notice you used &#8220;gosh-darned&#8221; instead of &#8220;Goddamned,&#8221; but have no compunction about using the insulting words &#8220;whining and sniveling.&#8221; Feel free to self-edit some of <i>those</i> terms from your posts, too, please. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Cartwright</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89689</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ WolfWitch

Misleading/inaccurate article summary on BoingBoing?!?!

say it ain&#039;t so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ WolfWitch</p>
<p>Misleading/inaccurate article summary on BoingBoing?!?!</p>
<p>say it ain&#8217;t so!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89702</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#31: I think you&#039;re expected to read the source material and decide for yourself. Or did you just read the headline?</description>
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		<title>By: Pete Cartwright</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89707</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NickD,

I did read the source material and decide for myself (see Comment #13).  Now who&#039;s commenting without reading OH SNAP.

really though, I was only teasing. jumping on a story half-cocked is the internet way! the headline/summary IS really misleading, though!  I supposed it&#039;s technically true, but the way it&#039;s worded doesn&#039;t really describe the entire actual situation

I think TubMan makes a really interesting point about the possible legal reasons behind this, and I wonder if we&#039;ll get some kind of official response at some point now that the &quot;story&quot; &quot;broke&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NickD,</p>
<p>I did read the source material and decide for myself (see Comment #13).  Now who&#8217;s commenting without reading OH SNAP.</p>
<p>really though, I was only teasing. jumping on a story half-cocked is the internet way! the headline/summary IS really misleading, though!  I supposed it&#8217;s technically true, but the way it&#8217;s worded doesn&#8217;t really describe the entire actual situation</p>
<p>I think TubMan makes a really interesting point about the possible legal reasons behind this, and I wonder if we&#8217;ll get some kind of official response at some point now that the &#8220;story&#8221; &#8220;broke&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: WeightedCompanionCube</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89709</link>
		<dc:creator>WeightedCompanionCube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WolfWitch - that&#039;s exactly right. The crappy internet sharing app restricts the outside sharing of most media. Which is stupid, because the only way another user of the service can see your files is if you add them to the access list. It&#039;s not public sharing. 

What I find especially hilarious is that it doesn&#039;t appear to restrict any truly risky file types. So yeah, if you want to share your media with others, you can&#039;t. If you misconfigure it, they are free to browse thru personal documents, saved passwords, cookies...

but yeah, did anyone RTFA before ranting about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WolfWitch &#8211; that&#8217;s exactly right. The crappy internet sharing app restricts the outside sharing of most media. Which is stupid, because the only way another user of the service can see your files is if you add them to the access list. It&#8217;s not public sharing. </p>
<p>What I find especially hilarious is that it doesn&#8217;t appear to restrict any truly risky file types. So yeah, if you want to share your media with others, you can&#8217;t. If you misconfigure it, they are free to browse thru personal documents, saved passwords, cookies&#8230;</p>
<p>but yeah, did anyone RTFA before ranting about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89711</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a rhetorical question, Pete. My point was that we shouldn&#039;t get too caught up in semantics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a rhetorical question, Pete. My point was that we shouldn&#8217;t get too caught up in semantics.</p>
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		<title>By: grey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89971</link>
		<dc:creator>grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete @15: &quot;To clarify - I still think this is pretty ridiculous, but it&#039;s not like it&#039;s not really really really trivial to get around.&quot;

That they tried and did a really bad job of restricting how you use the device you paid for is not a mitigating factor.

If a house guest tries to steal your valuables, you don&#039;t invite them back just because you easily thwarted their attempt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete @15: &#8220;To clarify &#8211; I still think this is pretty ridiculous, but it&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s not really really really trivial to get around.&#8221;</p>
<p>That they tried and did a really bad job of restricting how you use the device you paid for is not a mitigating factor.</p>
<p>If a house guest tries to steal your valuables, you don&#8217;t invite them back just because you easily thwarted their attempt. </p>
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		<title>By: coop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89724</link>
		<dc:creator>coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the key thing here is that if you went to your local ComputerMart and picked it up off the shelf, there&#039;s no way you&#039;re gonna know that this restriction exists.

Quoted from the side of the box (2TB version);

&quot;A simple and secure way to share data, pictures, music at home, in the office, and anywhere in the world - even when your computer is off&quot;.

There is no indication that you have to sign up for some sort of subscription service (you do) or that there are any rectrictions on the product (there are).

That&#039;s why this sucks.

coop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the key thing here is that if you went to your local ComputerMart and picked it up off the shelf, there&#8217;s no way you&#8217;re gonna know that this restriction exists.</p>
<p>Quoted from the side of the box (2TB version);</p>
<p>&#8220;A simple and secure way to share data, pictures, music at home, in the office, and anywhere in the world &#8211; even when your computer is off&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is no indication that you have to sign up for some sort of subscription service (you do) or that there are any rectrictions on the product (there are).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why this sucks.</p>
<p>coop</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Strong</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89725</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the recording industry is sueing garages where the mechanic plays music loud enough for the customers to overhear, I can imagine a similar debate over stereos that won&#039;t play music over a certain volume...

&quot;Did anyone READ the article?  You can listen to any music you want.  It&#039;s only when you SHARE the music by turning the volume up that it cuts out.  They didn&#039;t want to be sued by the RIAA.  A stereo that won&#039;t play loud is perfectly reasonable!&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the recording industry is sueing garages where the mechanic plays music loud enough for the customers to overhear, I can imagine a similar debate over stereos that won&#8217;t play music over a certain volume&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Did anyone READ the article?  You can listen to any music you want.  It&#8217;s only when you SHARE the music by turning the volume up that it cuts out.  They didn&#8217;t want to be sued by the RIAA.  A stereo that won&#8217;t play loud is perfectly reasonable!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Zieroh Tardy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html#comment-89985</link>
		<dc:creator>Zieroh Tardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m certainly no DRM apologist (quite the opposite, actually) but headlines &amp; summaries like this do the anti-DRM cause a gross disservice. Cory consistently comes off as a raving nutjob whenever DRM is mentioned, and writes grossly misleading headlines &amp; summaries. This makes it &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; easier for the general public to dismiss the anti-DRM cause. In my estimation, Cory has set back our cause &lt;b&gt;years&lt;/b&gt; by not playing straight.

Cory: If you want to criticize DRM (and you &lt;b&gt;should&lt;/b&gt;) then you should really consider taking the moral high road. To publish what amounts to outright lies hurts us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly no DRM apologist (quite the opposite, actually) but headlines &#038; summaries like this do the anti-DRM cause a gross disservice. Cory consistently comes off as a raving nutjob whenever DRM is mentioned, and writes grossly misleading headlines &#038; summaries. This makes it <i>much</i> easier for the general public to dismiss the anti-DRM cause. In my estimation, Cory has set back our cause <b>years</b> by not playing straight.</p>
<p>Cory: If you want to criticize DRM (and you <b>should</b>) then you should really consider taking the moral high road. To publish what amounts to outright lies hurts us all.</p>
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