Directed by Marilyn Manson, whom will also be playing the part of Mr. Carroll. Apparently, Angelina Jolie will be playing the Red Queen.

What’s real interesting to me is Manson’s insistance that he’s going to use subliminal elements in the film “that may end up being illegal.”

And also, “the girls playing Tweedledum and Tweedledee are twins who get to have real, genuine sex with each other.”

Also, I want a pony that transforms into a clockwork panda.

Your best pal,
BIZKeT

Tim, what happened to you? You used to be good (at least visually). What happened did you drink the Kool-Aid that Zemeckis offered you? Did you forget your animation roots? How does someone go fromVincent to motion-capture??

I wish Burton would go back to tapping into his own muse rather than servicing others’ trademarks. Other than Batman and perhaps Mars Attacks his most successful films, at least artistically, have been born out of his idiosynchratic view of the world (ie, Beetlejuice, Nightmare Before Christmas, Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish, et al).

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Alice-Definitive-Lewis-Carroll/dp/0393048470/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197375202&sr=8-2

It explains all those 18th century lolrus and the lolpenter jokes where “you had to be there”.

Not because Burton is involved. Because I think Alice is getting to be a total yawn. The century-before-last’s idea of whimsy and cheeky satire.

I’d love to see Burton take on an adaption of a graphic novel. Something NEW gardamnit.

This is likely a rhetorical question given your handle, but are you high? There was no subplot with Wonka’s father in the book. Burton excised the subplot with Slugworth, which removed any real reason for Charlie to not immediately get the factory, yet kept in Wonka’s paranoia of spies, rendered pointless. And Wonka, though an eccentric, was not a delusional pedophobe. And I never said I didn’t like Burton’s rendition, but the Gene Wilder version is far superior; even my nephew thought so, without coaching.

@TheCat17: “the girls playing Tweedledum and Tweedledee are twins who get to have real, genuine sex with each other.”

Ah, but will they eat each other’s scat out of a cup and vomit all over one another? Gotta ride that zeitgeist.

Tim Burton Is A GOD! People Are Saying He’s Changed Since Vincent, But Haven’t All Directors?
Jeez, Vincent Was Like 15 Years Ago, Even If It Is AMAZING! And I Can’t Wait To See This Rendetion Of Alice, And NO Helena IS NOT OLD AT ALL! God, And I Can’t Wait To See Matt Lucas (little Britain/usa) Do The Twins :)Yeah, I Think Alan Rickman Would Be Great For The Caterpillar, And Johnny Would Suit The Mad Hatter More Than The Rabbit, The Rabbit Should Be … I DON’T KNOW! :P
Well All I’m Wondering Is Tim Following The Book? Or Former Movies He Enjoyed Of It? Therefore WHO WILL BE THE QUEEN?!

Anyway, I Think Tim Deserves A Break After This … I’d Really Like To See Him Make Abarat (By Clive Barker) Because Besides The Twilight Saga It’s My Favourite Colllection Of Books. Perhaps Tim Should Try A Film Without Depp, Hows About Richard E. Grant? He Was Lord Barkis In Corpse Bride So I Think Theres A Possibility?
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by the way, anyone interested in a creative take on the Alice in Wonderland should check out “Fur” (with Nicole Kidman and Robert Downy Jr).

S.S-berg I do not trust to do it properly. (Yes, I am still mad about The Color Purple, and will never forgive him.) and he doesn’t do deeeep well. I’d hate to see this as a YA action adventure dumbed down.

By the way, anyone interested in the new trend in Lewis Carroll scholarship? Shoot, where was that web site…

Here we go.

http://www.lewiscarroll.cc/

Basically, most scholars of Carroll’s personal life have assumed he was a repressed pedophile who never acted on his impulses. But a small body of scholars believes this is a myth that has self-perpetuated and that Carroll was, in fact, quite normal sexually, and that his odd (to us) behaviors can be lumped under the banner of the Victorian cult of the child. Doesn’t help that Carroll’s extensive journaling and correspondence is missing a year’s worth of documentation that was destroyed for reasons unknown after his death.

As for book recommendations, check out Brian Talbot’s Alice in Sunderland, a real feast for the eyes that challenges Oxford’s “ownership” of Alice.

I’m cautiously hopeful about Sweeney Todd, but I fear Burton will spend six months teaching the flamingos to make themselves rigid, then rush the rest of the production.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0y5FJyHHqv4

this version was awesome, despite not being able to udnerstand it.