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		<title>By: OM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93464</link>
		<dc:creator>OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Of course, if you find Cory&#039;s reading monotonous, imagine if he&#039;d managed to get The Shat to do the delivery!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Of course, if you find Cory&#8217;s reading monotonous, imagine if he&#8217;d managed to get The Shat to do the delivery!</p>
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		<title>By: RayCasino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93468</link>
		<dc:creator>RayCasino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11:
It works. I put the Gui Boratto record Chromophobia on (tracks 3-5 work best) while listening to this. End result is trippy and disturbing (but it&#039;s not suicide-inducing, unlike the music-less original).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11:<br />
It works. I put the Gui Boratto record Chromophobia on (tracks 3-5 work best) while listening to this. End result is trippy and disturbing (but it&#8217;s not suicide-inducing, unlike the music-less original).</p>
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		<title>By: Moon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93508</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, aren&#039;t there a lot of NEW books that need readers. Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, aren&#8217;t there a lot of NEW books that need readers. Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: mennonot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93282</link>
		<dc:creator>mennonot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After trying for the first 30 seconds to valiantly follow the E911 audio, I began to question my purpose in life. I quickly decided it would be more realistic to listen to the it as an ambient background to other work, like writing this comment.

As I write, the E911 easily slips into the background like a boring lecture. It occasionally slips back  into my consciousness, like a sermon intruding on a day dream. But unlike even the most boring talk, it quickly slips back int the sub-conscious. As I reach the end of writing this comment, I realize that it is has a subtle malignancy, especially in it&#039;s deceptively coherent structures. And so, two thirds of the way through, I gave up entirely.

Thanks for your courageous reading, Cory.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After trying for the first 30 seconds to valiantly follow the E911 audio, I began to question my purpose in life. I quickly decided it would be more realistic to listen to the it as an ambient background to other work, like writing this comment.</p>
<p>As I write, the E911 easily slips into the background like a boring lecture. It occasionally slips back  into my consciousness, like a sermon intruding on a day dream. But unlike even the most boring talk, it quickly slips back int the sub-conscious. As I reach the end of writing this comment, I realize that it is has a subtle malignancy, especially in it&#8217;s deceptively coherent structures. And so, two thirds of the way through, I gave up entirely.</p>
<p>Thanks for your courageous reading, Cory.</p>
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		<title>By: OM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93300</link>
		<dc:creator>OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...The fun thing to do would be to go through a &quot;where are they now?&quot; update on this event, such as how Mike Godwin got immortalized not by being involved with the EFF, but for &quot;Godwin&#039;s Law&quot;, or how &quot;Illuminatti Online&quot; went from a BBS to CenTex&#039;s best ISP, to being bought out by PrismNet and turned into a total clusterfuck WRT reneging on agreements between IO and long-time customers.

I was around when all that went down. It still seems like yesterday when every BBS in CenTex was going through their text file collections to see whether they had the e911 document on their BBS or not....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;The fun thing to do would be to go through a &#8220;where are they now?&#8221; update on this event, such as how Mike Godwin got immortalized not by being involved with the EFF, but for &#8220;Godwin&#8217;s Law&#8221;, or how &#8220;Illuminatti Online&#8221; went from a BBS to CenTex&#8217;s best ISP, to being bought out by PrismNet and turned into a total clusterfuck WRT reneging on agreements between IO and long-time customers.</p>
<p>I was around when all that went down. It still seems like yesterday when every BBS in CenTex was going through their text file collections to see whether they had the e911 document on their BBS or not&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Parker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93301</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone explain how the information in this document could help crash the 911 system?  It just seems to be an explanation of the fault reporting process.</description>
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		<title>By: Flado</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93304</link>
		<dc:creator>Flado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! You can consider yourself lucky - I had to &lt;i&gt;translate&lt;/i&gt; the damned thing in Bulgarian, back in 1993/4...
Back then, me and my wife were young and hungry MScs just out of Sofia University&#039;s Department of Mathematics and Computer Science as we got this offer to translate Bruce Sterling&#039;s &quot;The  Hacker Crackdown&quot;. We did - in about 3 months&#039; time, but it was hard! Neither of us had had any contact with American press-speak at the time, and I can assure you first-hand that the Oxford Advanced Learner&#039;s Dictionary at the time didn&#039;t list many of Bruce&#039;s idioms and so was of no help at all... No Internet... Luckily, The Jargon File was available on the Bulgarian BBSs at the time... And I had to argue with the editor about the meaning of everything - &quot;data banks&quot; for example - she insisted that it must mean &quot;data about banks&quot;... Oh, the times!

The irony of all this is that we never saw the book published. The University Publishing House (which was organizing the whole thing) kept postponing the publication... 9 years later, I came across a listing in a Bulgarian Internet bookstore selling the book - but I don&#039;t know whether it was our translation, or a new one, and anyway I wasn&#039;t living in Bulgaria at the time and so couldn&#039;t order a copy, so I don&#039;t know to this day whether we could honestly claim to be translators :-) Not that it matters anymore.
 
And to think that I was counting on Bruce&#039;s autograph on my copy - the publishers said they&#039;d planned to invite him at the time.

It&#039;s all water under the bridge now, but I still vividly remember the E911 Document - or &quot;Ð”Ð¾ÐºÑƒÐ¼ÐµÐ½Ñ‚ÑŠÑ‚ Ð•911&quot; in Bulgarian - how do you translate an acronym if you have no idea what it means? - and that baby had lots and lots of them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! You can consider yourself lucky &#8211; I had to <i>translate</i> the damned thing in Bulgarian, back in 1993/4&#8230;<br />
Back then, me and my wife were young and hungry MScs just out of Sofia University&#8217;s Department of Mathematics and Computer Science as we got this offer to translate Bruce Sterling&#8217;s &#8220;The  Hacker Crackdown&#8221;. We did &#8211; in about 3 months&#8217; time, but it was hard! Neither of us had had any contact with American press-speak at the time, and I can assure you first-hand that the Oxford Advanced Learner&#8217;s Dictionary at the time didn&#8217;t list many of Bruce&#8217;s idioms and so was of no help at all&#8230; No Internet&#8230; Luckily, The Jargon File was available on the Bulgarian BBSs at the time&#8230; And I had to argue with the editor about the meaning of everything &#8211; &#8220;data banks&#8221; for example &#8211; she insisted that it must mean &#8220;data about banks&#8221;&#8230; Oh, the times!</p>
<p>The irony of all this is that we never saw the book published. The University Publishing House (which was organizing the whole thing) kept postponing the publication&#8230; 9 years later, I came across a listing in a Bulgarian Internet bookstore selling the book &#8211; but I don&#8217;t know whether it was our translation, or a new one, and anyway I wasn&#8217;t living in Bulgaria at the time and so couldn&#8217;t order a copy, so I don&#8217;t know to this day whether we could honestly claim to be translators :-) Not that it matters anymore.</p>
<p>And to think that I was counting on Bruce&#8217;s autograph on my copy &#8211; the publishers said they&#8217;d planned to invite him at the time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all water under the bridge now, but I still vividly remember the E911 Document &#8211; or &#8220;Ð”Ð¾ÐºÑƒÐ¼ÐµÐ½Ñ‚ÑŠÑ‚ Ð•911&#8243; in Bulgarian &#8211; how do you translate an acronym if you have no idea what it means? &#8211; and that baby had lots and lots of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ckd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93305</link>
		<dc:creator>ckd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory mentions the &quot;hilariously dumb&quot; calculus behind the $79,449 number. More details can be found in this old &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/effector/effect01.10&quot;&gt;EFF newsletter&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s a chunk listing the labor expenses (200 hours for a contract writer and another 200 hours for a &quot;Paygrade 3 Project Mgr&quot;), typing and editing time, &quot;Order Labels (Cost) = $5.00&quot;, and so forth.

But here&#039;s the &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; fun part:

HARDWARE EXPENSES
VT220                        $850
Vaxstation II             $31,000
Printer                    $6,000
Maintenance                10% of costs

SOFTWARE EXPENSES
Interleaf Software        $22,000
VMS Software               $2,500
Software Maintenance    10% of costs

Yes, they included the entire cost of the hardware and software used to write the document (and the maintenance contracts). After all, don&#039;t we all throw away our computers after each word processing document we create?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory mentions the &#8220;hilariously dumb&#8221; calculus behind the $79,449 number. More details can be found in this old <a href="http://www.eff.org/effector/effect01.10">EFF newsletter</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a chunk listing the labor expenses (200 hours for a contract writer and another 200 hours for a &#8220;Paygrade 3 Project Mgr&#8221;), typing and editing time, &#8220;Order Labels (Cost) = $5.00&#8243;, and so forth.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the <em>really</em> fun part:</p>
<p>HARDWARE EXPENSES<br />
VT220                        $850<br />
Vaxstation II             $31,000<br />
Printer                    $6,000<br />
Maintenance                10% of costs</p>
<p>SOFTWARE EXPENSES<br />
Interleaf Software        $22,000<br />
VMS Software               $2,500<br />
Software Maintenance    10% of costs</p>
<p>Yes, they included the entire cost of the hardware and software used to write the document (and the maintenance contracts). After all, don&#8217;t we all throw away our computers after each word processing document we create?</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93313</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, those were the days.

I&#039;m pretty sure I grabbed this doc off a BBS because it was some kind of deal, looked at it and promptly filed it away somewhere.

Epic heroism in the reading, Cory. By the end I wanted to scream and jump out the window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, those were the days.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I grabbed this doc off a BBS because it was some kind of deal, looked at it and promptly filed it away somewhere.</p>
<p>Epic heroism in the reading, Cory. By the end I wanted to scream and jump out the window.</p>
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		<title>By: Jardine</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93332</link>
		<dc:creator>Jardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of Emmanuel Goldstein&#039;s early WBAI radio shows involved the events in The Hacker Crackdown. The second show on this page has Steve Jackson and John Perry Barlow as guests.

http://www.2600.com/offthehook/1990/0590.html

And the second show on this page interviews Craig Neidorf.

http://www.2600.com/offthehook/1990/0990.html

Phiber Optik later becomes a co-host on the show. He even calls in from prison during the time he spent there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of Emmanuel Goldstein&#8217;s early WBAI radio shows involved the events in The Hacker Crackdown. The second show on this page has Steve Jackson and John Perry Barlow as guests.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.2600.com/offthehook/1990/0590.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.2600.com/offthehook/1990/0590.html</a></p>
<p>And the second show on this page interviews Craig Neidorf.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.2600.com/offthehook/1990/0990.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.2600.com/offthehook/1990/0990.html</a></p>
<p>Phiber Optik later becomes a co-host on the show. He even calls in from prison during the time he spent there.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Greenwood</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93589</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have dumped it into a text reader myself and let that take the strain. I have read the Hacker Crackdown a few times and really enjoy it, but I&#039;ve never read the E911 document.

There was a project a couple of years ago where someone had put the Linux source code into a text reader and was broadcasting it over the net and on radio. Ah, here it is: http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/. Now *that&#039;s* boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have dumped it into a text reader myself and let that take the strain. I have read the Hacker Crackdown a few times and really enjoy it, but I&#8217;ve never read the E911 document.</p>
<p>There was a project a couple of years ago where someone had put the Linux source code into a text reader and was broadcasting it over the net and on radio. Ah, here it is: <a href="http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/" rel="nofollow">http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/</a>. Now *that&#8217;s* boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93611</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moon, that&#039;s not the point.</description>
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		<title>By: sabik</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93394</link>
		<dc:creator>sabik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3: &lt;i&gt;It just seems to be an explanation of the fault reporting process.&lt;/i&gt;

And you don&#039;t think injecting false faults into the process would be a problem? More generally, it&#039;s a listing of who&#039;s expecting a phone call from whom about what topic, which would be useful for social engineering. 

If I remember the story correctly, the original had actual names and phone numbers, which the *hackers* considered too sensitive to publish - so they elided them, but Bell&#039;s $10 version didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3: <i>It just seems to be an explanation of the fault reporting process.</i></p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t think injecting false faults into the process would be a problem? More generally, it&#8217;s a listing of who&#8217;s expecting a phone call from whom about what topic, which would be useful for social engineering. </p>
<p>If I remember the story correctly, the original had actual names and phone numbers, which the *hackers* considered too sensitive to publish &#8211; so they elided them, but Bell&#8217;s $10 version didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Nora</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93405</link>
		<dc:creator>Nora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally got a Royal Present in Katamari Damacy while listening to this. Obviously it increases productivity. Productmaridamacytivity.</description>
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		<title>By: Squashy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93406</link>
		<dc:creator>Squashy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could at least put a beat under it or something. It could be, um, a new sort of ambient music.</description>
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		<title>By: Nora</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93414</link>
		<dc:creator>Nora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking recently about finding the most ridiculously boring thing possible, taking it to a poetry slam, and performing it for 3 minutes. This document might work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking recently about finding the most ridiculously boring thing possible, taking it to a poetry slam, and performing it for 3 minutes. This document might work.</p>
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		<title>By: yurei</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2007/12/15/e911-document-podcas.html#comment-93425</link>
		<dc:creator>yurei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the spoken word nod. 
Add a pretentious beret-wearing bongo player, and you&#039;ve got money in the bank.</description>
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Add a pretentious beret-wearing bongo player, and you&#8217;ve got money in the bank.</p>
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