“Theres no point in suddenly believing in a vengeful god that condemns people to hell for the sorts of things i’ve said about him for decades.”

Who said anything about a vengeful god?

Je suis bien, merci! (Apologies, French class was many years ago and conjugation of verbs was never my strong point)

USL? Not a familiar acronym, sorry. “Cajun” was my BBS handle back in the early 90′s, and I’ve held various online identities with that root ever since. Comes from my love of Jambalaya, Crawfish Etoufee, Red Beans and Rice, Gumbo, Po-Boys, all helped along with Tabasco, of course.

(cajunfj40, finding himself far afield of the topic, tries to think of something relevant to type. Having already done so at #91, post ends)

Later,
-cajun

Correct! — unless you think you can top Takuan’s post, in which case you can do that instead.

Online Forum Bingo is a useful concept. In some venues where I hang out, the entire assembled multitude would have sung out “BINGO!” when iBarna said “I’m checking out of this thread.”

1. I didn’t move through the standard vegetarian arguments as far as i saw, i made some helpful and pretty neutral suggestions about eating meat versus not eating meat.

2. As for religion, I saw a comment thats made a lot that annoys me and i addressed it. The whole thing seemed to sit well for hours and we moved past it before you did the whole disemvoweling thing. All i wanted to do was address the quote, some people responded, i responded back and we moved back to the subject at hand. Slight digression did not kill the conversation.

I’m sorry, but your level of sensitivity is beyond anything i’ve ever seen from a moderator.
Blvng n hm f y wnt s yr bsnss, jst dn’t nsst tht d t whnvr ‘m n pnch.”

Let me translate what i said there: Believing in him if you want is your buisness, just don’t insist that i do too whenever i’m in a pinch.

Really? REALLY? I know, I know, you’re the decider. But this is some pretty poor deciding. I like you as a poster, but boing boing needs a new moderator. This was not a flame war. You don’t moderate, you simply edit out anything and everything that you don’t like the look of.

Teresa…REALLY? This is just sad. I mean really. The poster was complaining about the same old stuff happening every time. i just asked a reasonable question.

Are you okay?

@ mujadaddy (#10)

“It’s not nice to FuXX0r Mother Nature.”

Your argument is one of the silliest I have ever heard. It could also be argued that driving a car, flying in a plane and even using a computer are not natural and it would be even easier to argue that they “FuXX0r Mother Nature.” I don’t propose that we stop doing any of those things.

That’s where you & I differ.

Also linking to a sketch showing that we have an omnivore’s tooth structure doesn’t really prove that it dangerous to be vegan. In hunter-gatherer societies meat was a rarity. We ate it, but not a lot of it.

We ate it because we didn’t have a choice in the matter, calorically speaking. Animals are good at concentrating calories in their tissues. It would have been dangerous not to eat it.

In the kind of disaster being discussed here I would probably have to abandon a strict vegan diet, and I would probably eat meat if I really had to (although I’m not sure I would really have to). I certainly wouldn’t worry about a little whey in bread found in the remains of a grocery store.

So your choice isn’t really one of morality — rather, it’s one of smugness, bred from comfort?

Because you’re not ingesting the proper amount of free will-sapping hormones?

And, again, that extreme response may not be realistic if its just the power’s been out for 72 hours. Even in Katrina they weren’t hunting people for food.

I’m not saying I’m going Micronesian at the first snowfall. I’m saying that I’m not artificially limiting my options.

cute. and wonderful moderation. so this is case of you censoring because you don’t like a word? thats in line with you standard conduct.

its easy to moderate when you selectively address concerns while changing the post of the person with the issue isn’t it?

God condemns people to hell in the same way traffic cops condemn drunk drivers to crashing into trees. It’s kind of your own choice.

My reasons for veganism center on factory farming. Come the apocalypse, pretty much all the available meat will be free range and organic (aka wild animals). I don’t have any problem with eating such meat, other than I kinda think it’s gross after 10+ years of being a vegan

As a vegan of about 3 years (and vegetarian for many more) I’ll have to agree with you on this one.

I’m rather surprised by the quantity of negative comments on vegetarianism (maybe I’m just perceiving them as negative). The world, and its vegetarians, would obviously go through immense changes post-apocalypse; but that’s no reason to trivialize vegetarianism in our current luxury society. There are good arguments for being vegetarian and “meat tastes good” is a rather weak counter-point.

unless you think you can top Takuan’s post, in which case you can do that instead.

The purpose of technology is to provide me with stem-cell caviar.

that’s no reason to trivialize vegetarianism in our current luxury society.

Sr t s, bcs t’s trvl lfstyl.

There are good arguments for being vegetarian and “meat tastes good” is a rather weak counter-point.

On the contrary, the enjoyment of food is one of the best things in life, superseded only by crshng yr nms, sng thm drvn bfr y, nd hrng th lmnttns f thr wmn.

I’d like to log in as another atheist who has been in some dreadful life-threatening situations. But I’ve never been compelled to eat squirrel. That might just do it.

In a crisis, I’ll pretty much eat anything that won’t cause me harm. I live in suburban Canada, but I’m close enough to some wilderness that my survival plan has that in mind.

Worms, cooked, can be a rich protein source. While I have yet to try that, one of my favourite snacks have been BBQ lavets, the larva of a grain eating beetle, available in packets smaller than a matchbox, and many candy stores.

Many wild flowers are edible, the most common ones as seen in suburban parks are dandelions, whose flowers can be made into wine, its leaves eaten as a salad green, and its root grounded up to be used in place of coffee.

Clover are edible, the most common ones you see would be red clover, which could also be used as a yellow dye, and white clovers.

Violets, particularly the common butterfly/early violet, its flowers are often candied, and its leaves are eaten.

Tulips have edible flowers and very delicious bulbs, I’ve tried pieces of it once in a Middle Eastern vegetable platter. NEVER confuse tulips with crocuses though, crocuses are poisonous.

Pine is a very good source of vitamin C, a tea made from boiling its needles were the cure the natives of North America offered to Europeans sick with scurvy.

Please avoid eating the eggs of unknown birds unless you are absolutely famished. Many species of birds are endangered. I’m addressing this to people too squirmish to eat meat, or too squirmish to kill and butcher a deer, but are willing to eat eggs. For those in an urban environment, if you can get at them, eat the rock pigeons! I’ll cook it throughly first if I were you, but those things are an invasive species in North America, and their droppings are gradually corroding historical buildings and monuments. Eat the Eastern Grey Squirrels too; http://www.island.net/~cclt/invasive.htm

ths s xctly th knd f thng ‘m tlkng bt. Why wld sddnly blv sm fry tl whn yr nvsbl plcmn hs ppl lk y s slsmn?

My lf chc f nt blvng n hm nd thrws bng pcfl pn mndd prsn s t y, nlgs t bng drnk drvr, nd yr hly bk dscrbs th pt f fr ‘ll spnd th rst f my xstnc.

S ys, thr r thsts n fxhls.

but this is about vegetarian stuff, i just wanted to address the foxhole comment, nt strt dscssn bt th nn xstnc f gd. Blvng n hm f y wnt s yr bsnss, jst dn’t nsst tht d t whnvr ‘m n pnch.

Sure it is, because it’s a trivial lifestyle.

Well, how is the troll lifestyle, Mujadaddy? I would suppose ya’ll are mostly carnivorous ;)

n th cntrry, th njymnt f fd s n f th bst thngs n lf, sprsdd nly by crshng yr nms, sng thm drvn bfr y, nd hrng th lmnttns f thr wmn.

Who let the troll in? The one who smells like bacon grease?

There are good arguments for being vegetarian and “meat tastes good” is a rather weak counter-point.

That is an awful statement. It’s as true as this:
“There are good arguments for being temperate, and ‘beer tastes good’ is a rather weak counter-point.”

It’s an issue close to home. A prominent Muslim wanted to take our on-campus bars away.

Some of us want to enjoy life, y’know?

Who let the troll in? The one who smells like bacon grease?

What a good argument for vegetarianism! Seriously? A personal hygiene crack? …

Hnstly, vgtrnsm jst bthrs m bcs mst f y r cnvncd tht t mks y bttr thn mnvrs. Life is dumb & difficult enough without having to “worry” about your fuel source.

mmmmmmmmmmBacon … mmmmmmmm…

There are good arguments for being vegetarian and
“meat tastes good” is a rather weak counter-point.

Yes, that is a weak counterpoint.

However, in a sustained emergency those of you who have foregone meat will be ill-equipped to deal with a sudden dietary change. Seems to me that this would be the worst time to be ill and feeble because your system is not prepared to deal with your new diet. Better to be prepared while you can live in a “luxury” environment.

Exactly so. I’ve been vegetarian for 20+ years but in a disaster situation I would have no issue with eating what is available. Vegetarianism is, for the majority of people, a conscious choice. Being caught in a major disaster isn’t. As there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no vegans in tsunamis.

I’ll be ecstatic the day someone slaps down a steak in front of me that can fool me.

Hm…?