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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108035</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s sic these idiots on him:
http://www.dozier-internet-law.info/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s sic these idiots on him:<br />
<a href="http://www.dozier-internet-law.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dozier-internet-law.info/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Someone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108042</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Menhart might also try to get a trademark registration for &quot;chutzpah.&quot;

According the PTO, a Jonathan Rosenoer applied for a trademark registration for CYBERLAW for &quot;development and dissemination of legal educational materials&quot; in 1996, on the basis of use since 1992.  That application was rejected (for reasons not available online), and Mr. Rosenoer ultimately abandoned the application.

Later, in 2000, a Donald Lins applied for CYBERLAW ADVISOR for &quot;Legal advice and services related to the law of computers, the Internet and electronic commerce,&quot; on the basis of an intent to use that mark.  Again, a rejection and abandonment.

Mr. Menhart came along in 2007 with an application for CYBERLAW for a whole raft of legal stuff, which he filed on December 1,2007; as of December 5, 2007 (the latest status date on the PTO site), the application has not yet been assigned to an examiner.  So he has a way to go before he gets anywhere near a registration.  He claims a first use date of February 22, 2007, but even a cursory Google search will show that the term &quot;cyberlaw&quot; has been around and in use generically for years.  Of course, it&#039;s been in little, out of the way places like the &lt;a href=http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/law/010198law.html&gt;New York Times CyberLaw Journal&lt;/a&gt;, so maybe he just missed it.

Even better is the fact that Mr. Menhart has misrepresented the registration status of &quot;CyberLaw&quot; on his website by using the circle-R indicator in the title bar and the text.  Mr. Menhart should think about getting his own house in order before going after others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Menhart might also try to get a trademark registration for &#8220;chutzpah.&#8221;</p>
<p>According the PTO, a Jonathan Rosenoer applied for a trademark registration for CYBERLAW for &#8220;development and dissemination of legal educational materials&#8221; in 1996, on the basis of use since 1992.  That application was rejected (for reasons not available online), and Mr. Rosenoer ultimately abandoned the application.</p>
<p>Later, in 2000, a Donald Lins applied for CYBERLAW ADVISOR for &#8220;Legal advice and services related to the law of computers, the Internet and electronic commerce,&#8221; on the basis of an intent to use that mark.  Again, a rejection and abandonment.</p>
<p>Mr. Menhart came along in 2007 with an application for CYBERLAW for a whole raft of legal stuff, which he filed on December 1,2007; as of December 5, 2007 (the latest status date on the PTO site), the application has not yet been assigned to an examiner.  So he has a way to go before he gets anywhere near a registration.  He claims a first use date of February 22, 2007, but even a cursory Google search will show that the term &#8220;cyberlaw&#8221; has been around and in use generically for years.  Of course, it&#8217;s been in little, out of the way places like the <a href=http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/law/010198law.html>New York Times CyberLaw Journal</a>, so maybe he just missed it.</p>
<p>Even better is the fact that Mr. Menhart has misrepresented the registration status of &#8220;CyberLaw&#8221; on his website by using the circle-R indicator in the title bar and the text.  Mr. Menhart should think about getting his own house in order before going after others.</p>
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		<title>By: cteegarden</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108299</link>
		<dc:creator>cteegarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t remember where, but I read once that all it would take to clean house on tort lawyers would be to pass a federal law allowing legal malpractice lawsuits.

From there, clients would sue their own lawyers for losing their case and lawyers would eventually end up suing their professors and schools for failing to adequately educate them.

Given this, I&#039;m not even sure that&#039;s needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t remember where, but I read once that all it would take to clean house on tort lawyers would be to pass a federal law allowing legal malpractice lawsuits.</p>
<p>From there, clients would sue their own lawyers for losing their case and lawyers would eventually end up suing their professors and schools for failing to adequately educate them.</p>
<p>Given this, I&#8217;m not even sure that&#8217;s needed.</p>
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		<title>By: EricT</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108045</link>
		<dc:creator>EricT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this anything like Bob Loblaw&#039;s Law Blog</description>
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		<title>By: dmark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108050</link>
		<dc:creator>dmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoted:

&quot;that&#039;s like a soda company trying to trademark the word soda.&quot;


Or the comic industry trying to copyright &quot;superhero&quot;. 

Let&#039;s call him a lawyer pervert.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted:</p>
<p>&#8220;that&#8217;s like a soda company trying to trademark the word soda.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or the comic industry trying to copyright &#8220;superhero&#8221;. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s call him a lawyer pervert.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Someone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108319</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, legal malpractice lawsuits already exist.

I agree with the comments about &quot;cyberlaw&quot; (and &quot;cyber&quot; anything) being passe&#039;.

That&#039;s why I am going to register &quot;iLawyer&quot; for my practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, legal malpractice lawsuits already exist.</p>
<p>I agree with the comments about &#8220;cyberlaw&#8221; (and &#8220;cyber&#8221; anything) being passe&#8217;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I am going to register &#8220;iLawyer&#8221; for my practice.</p>
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		<title>By: nzruss</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108067</link>
		<dc:creator>nzruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know a good cyberlawyer who can cast some light on this?

oh wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know a good cyberlawyer who can cast some light on this?</p>
<p>oh wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108090</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1200 G Street NW, Suite 800 is a Regus location (www.regus.com).  Regus rents single offices (such as the one I reside at) as well as &#039;virtual offices&#039; which provide a mailing address, but no physical presence (i.e., you could work from your home 100% of the time, but have an address of 1200 G Street NW Suite 800).

This seems to be a firm of one lawyer  (or a very small number).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1200 G Street NW, Suite 800 is a Regus location (www.regus.com).  Regus rents single offices (such as the one I reside at) as well as &#8216;virtual offices&#8217; which provide a mailing address, but no physical presence (i.e., you could work from your home 100% of the time, but have an address of 1200 G Street NW Suite 800).</p>
<p>This seems to be a firm of one lawyer  (or a very small number).</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108632</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IANAL, but I believe it&#039;s illegal to use the (R) symbol if you have not actually been granted a registered trademark from the PTO. Only TM can be used prior to being granted (and paying for) registration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IANAL, but I believe it&#8217;s illegal to use the (R) symbol if you have not actually been granted a registered trademark from the PTO. Only TM can be used prior to being granted (and paying for) registration.</p>
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		<title>By: ravnos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108121</link>
		<dc:creator>ravnos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in relation to the soda thing, did you know that 7/11 has trademarked &quot;Slurp&quot; in Slurpee (I think it&#039;s a trademark, I can&#039;t remember off the top of my head). I noticed it one day while drinking one. Not Slurpee, but Slurp...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in relation to the soda thing, did you know that 7/11 has trademarked &#8220;Slurp&#8221; in Slurpee (I think it&#8217;s a trademark, I can&#8217;t remember off the top of my head). I noticed it one day while drinking one. Not Slurpee, but Slurp&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Someone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108138</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10, Ravnos: Not quite.  The cups have the circle-R indicator after the P in SLURPEE, but the trademark is SLURPEE.  The circle-R indicator simply has to be in proximity to the mark; its placement does not indicate that the owner claims trademark rights in (or only in) the part of the mark that comes before the indicator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10, Ravnos: Not quite.  The cups have the circle-R indicator after the P in SLURPEE, but the trademark is SLURPEE.  The circle-R indicator simply has to be in proximity to the mark; its placement does not indicate that the owner claims trademark rights in (or only in) the part of the mark that comes before the indicator.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Someone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I stand corrected: 7-11 does indeed own a registration for SLURP in connection with &quot;FLAVORED SEMI-FROZEN SOFT DRINKS FOR CONSUMPTION ON OR OFF THE PREMISES.&quot;  So yes, they own the mark SLURP, but only for those particular goods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I stand corrected: 7-11 does indeed own a registration for SLURP in connection with &#8220;FLAVORED SEMI-FROZEN SOFT DRINKS FOR CONSUMPTION ON OR OFF THE PREMISES.&#8221;  So yes, they own the mark SLURP, but only for those particular goods.</p>
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		<title>By: Glossolalia Black</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108170</link>
		<dc:creator>Glossolalia Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll start believing in cyberlawyers when there are finally &quot;internet police&quot; and &quot;internet jail&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll start believing in cyberlawyers when there are finally &#8220;internet police&#8221; and &#8220;internet jail&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: apedog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108252</link>
		<dc:creator>apedog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s like a comic book company trying to trademark the word superhero.

umm...no, wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s like a comic book company trying to trademark the word superhero.</p>
<p>umm&#8230;no, wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Brutsch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108016</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Brutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also funny that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cyberlaw.pro/cyberlawg/general-interest/what-is-the-cyberlawg.html&quot;&gt;first post&lt;/a&gt; for said CyberLawg was on April 1st of last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also funny that the <a href="http://www.cyberlaw.pro/cyberlawg/general-interest/what-is-the-cyberlawg.html">first post</a> for said CyberLawg was on April 1st of last year.</p>
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		<title>By: DWittSF</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108272</link>
		<dc:creator>DWittSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1990s called--with some prior art! 

Dude, why don&#039;t you try to patent &#039;cyberdork&#039; while you&#039;re at it?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1990s called&#8211;with some prior art! </p>
<p>Dude, why don&#8217;t you try to patent &#8216;cyberdork&#8217; while you&#8217;re at it?</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108273</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how can any think this person stupid when he has already garnered all this free publicity for his crummy little If he hadn&#039;t crapped in the punch bowl, would you have even heard of him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can any think this person stupid when he has already garnered all this free publicity for his crummy little If he hadn&#8217;t crapped in the punch bowl, would you have even heard of him?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Brutsch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108018</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Brutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cyberlaw.pro/cyberlawg/general-interest/what-is-the-cyberlawg.html&quot;&gt;first post&lt;/a&gt; on said CyberLawg was on April 1st of last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny that the <a href="http://www.cyberlaw.pro/cyberlawg/general-interest/what-is-the-cyberlawg.html">first post</a> on said CyberLawg was on April 1st of last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Xohn le Doe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108275</link>
		<dc:creator>Xohn le Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely would not hire anyone who called themself a cyberlawyer.</description>
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		<title>By: gollux</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/18/lawyer-claims-he-own.html#comment-108286</link>
		<dc:creator>gollux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CyberLawyer = CyberLamer in my books, wouldn&#039;t be seen near anyone who described himself as such. The whole &quot;Cyber&quot; thing is so over with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CyberLawyer = CyberLamer in my books, wouldn&#8217;t be seen near anyone who described himself as such. The whole &#8220;Cyber&#8221; thing is so over with&#8230;</p>
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