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		<title>By: lentil</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-111136</link>
		<dc:creator>lentil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*wishing the Economist would do so as well</description>
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		<title>By: Eyebrows McGee</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-111176</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyebrows McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not historically fascinating, but I spent weeks after I read this regaling all my friends with tales of the sex lives of lobsters:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200204/corson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not historically fascinating, but I spent weeks after I read this regaling all my friends with tales of the sex lives of lobsters:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200204/corson" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200204/corson</a></p>
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		<title>By: jrb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110687</link>
		<dc:creator>jrb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Asa Gray&#039;s 1860 book review of Darwin&#039;s Origin of Species? 

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/186007/gray
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Asa Gray&#8217;s 1860 book review of Darwin&#8217;s Origin of Species? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/186007/gray" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/186007/gray</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110691</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The study of this archive could take a while. This is the sort of treasure trove for the study of recent history. And think of all the sub-catagories within that archive. I wonder how long it will take to have the archive hyper-linked. If it was a managed archive, readers could offer hyperlinks from one issue to the other. So if you wanted to look up a specific writer or subject, all the articles over the years would show up. Has National Geographic done this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The study of this archive could take a while. This is the sort of treasure trove for the study of recent history. And think of all the sub-catagories within that archive. I wonder how long it will take to have the archive hyper-linked. If it was a managed archive, readers could offer hyperlinks from one issue to the other. So if you wanted to look up a specific writer or subject, all the articles over the years would show up. Has National Geographic done this?</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Doctorow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110954</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Doctorow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic archive-nuggets, all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic archive-nuggets, all!</p>
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		<title>By: jonjab</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110970</link>
		<dc:creator>jonjab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding of the New York Times archive is that one business unit decided to open the archive, made the announcement and dropped the charging mechanisms without checking with another business unit, which had already signed exclusive deals with vendors such as Lexis-Nexis and Proquest, who had developed their own search engines and backfiles as &#039;value added&#039; redistributions / reenclosures of the content.

It&#039;s one example of an industry catering to early adopting paying customers (primarily libraries and newspapers in this case) and inadvertently screwing the Commons in the process.  There&#039;s all that good New York Times content that&#039;s probably not covered by copyright anymore too (which is how Cornell got away with digitizing the older Atlantic content in the first place).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of the New York Times archive is that one business unit decided to open the archive, made the announcement and dropped the charging mechanisms without checking with another business unit, which had already signed exclusive deals with vendors such as Lexis-Nexis and Proquest, who had developed their own search engines and backfiles as &#8216;value added&#8217; redistributions / reenclosures of the content.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one example of an industry catering to early adopting paying customers (primarily libraries and newspapers in this case) and inadvertently screwing the Commons in the process.  There&#8217;s all that good New York Times content that&#8217;s probably not covered by copyright anymore too (which is how Cornell got away with digitizing the older Atlantic content in the first place).</p>
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		<title>By: Espen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110716</link>
		<dc:creator>Espen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My three immediate links: 

Two classic Atlantic articles by Tracy Kidder: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198107/kidder-soul-machine&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Flying Upside Down&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198108/kidder-soul-machine&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The Ultimate Toy&lt;/a&gt;, both of them from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soul_of_a_New_Machine&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Soul of a New Machine&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (1981), still the best case study (and, come to think of it, introductory text book) on leading techies I have ever read.&lt;p&gt;Lastly, of course, Vannevar Bush&#039; classic proto-web article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/194507/bush&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;As We May Think&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Published in 1945, at a time when computers were measured in square meters and calculations per second.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My three immediate links: </p>
<p>Two classic Atlantic articles by Tracy Kidder: <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198107/kidder-soul-machine" target="_blank">Flying Upside Down</a> and <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198108/kidder-soul-machine" target="_blank">The Ultimate Toy</a>, both of them from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soul_of_a_New_Machine" target="_blank"><em>The Soul of a New Machine</em></a> (1981), still the best case study (and, come to think of it, introductory text book) on leading techies I have ever read.
<p>Lastly, of course, Vannevar Bush&#8217; classic proto-web article <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/194507/bush"><i>As We May Think</i></a>. Published in 1945, at a time when computers were measured in square meters and calculations per second&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jaykinney</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaykinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory wrote:

&lt;i&gt;The fantastic Atlantic Monthly magazine has dropped its paywall effective today, switching its archives (which stretch all the way back to 1857!) to an ad-supported model. First the New York Times, then the Atlantic...&lt;/i&gt;

I dunno. I&#039;ve run into this meme before (maybe even here!) that the NYTimes was going free online, but if you try a search for NYTimes articles pre-1980, they still want $3.95 per article. 

Which, of course, is their right (it&#039;s their site), but I&#039;m not sure they quite deserve the praise they seem to have been getting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory wrote:</p>
<p><i>The fantastic Atlantic Monthly magazine has dropped its paywall effective today, switching its archives (which stretch all the way back to 1857!) to an ad-supported model. First the New York Times, then the Atlantic&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I dunno. I&#8217;ve run into this meme before (maybe even here!) that the NYTimes was going free online, but if you try a search for NYTimes articles pre-1980, they still want $3.95 per article. </p>
<p>Which, of course, is their right (it&#8217;s their site), but I&#8217;m not sure they quite deserve the praise they seem to have been getting.</p>
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		<title>By: jaykinney</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110754</link>
		<dc:creator>jaykinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and while I&#039;m being a Wet Blanket&amp;#174, if I&#039;m not mistaken, Cornell University&#039;s Making of America digital archive has had the Atlantic Monthly from 1857-1901 up on line for quite awhile already. 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/moa/moa_browse.html&quot;&gt;Making of America&lt;/a&gt;

Worth checking out in its own right. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and while I&#8217;m being a Wet Blanket&#174, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, Cornell University&#8217;s Making of America digital archive has had the Atlantic Monthly from 1857-1901 up on line for quite awhile already.<br />
<a href="http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/moa/moa_browse.html">Making of America</a></p>
<p>Worth checking out in its own right. </p>
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		<title>By: ignobilitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>ignobilitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never forget that The Atlantic has Christopher Hitchens on its payroll. And believe me, as the benificiary of a gift subscription, I can tell you that it bleeds over into all areas of the magazine. Let the peruser beware...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never forget that The Atlantic has Christopher Hitchens on its payroll. And believe me, as the benificiary of a gift subscription, I can tell you that it bleeds over into all areas of the magazine. Let the peruser beware&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: k2kid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110761</link>
		<dc:creator>k2kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atlantic Monthly was a frequent host to my favorite essayist, E. B. White. Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/ideastour/animals/white-full.mhtml&quot;&gt;Death of a Pig&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlantic Monthly was a frequent host to my favorite essayist, E. B. White. Here is <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/ideastour/animals/white-full.mhtml">Death of a Pig</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: angry young man</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110778</link>
		<dc:creator>angry young man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Longfellow&#039;s &quot;Killed at the Ford&quot; from 1866:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/186604/longfellow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longfellow&#8217;s &#8220;Killed at the Ford&#8221; from 1866:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/186604/longfellow" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/186604/longfellow</a></p>
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		<title>By: angry young man</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110783</link>
		<dc:creator>angry young man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And from 1858 Oliver Wendell Holmes&#039;s &quot;Autocrat of the Breakfast Table&quot;:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/185804/autocrat-breakfast-table
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And from 1858 Oliver Wendell Holmes&#8217;s &#8220;Autocrat of the Breakfast Table&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/185804/autocrat-breakfast-table" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/185804/autocrat-breakfast-table</a></p>
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		<title>By: angry young man</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110785</link>
		<dc:creator>angry young man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Holmes&#039;s &quot;Stereoscope and the Stereograph,&quot; which would have been perfect for the Boing Boing of its day:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/185906/holmes

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Holmes&#8217;s &#8220;Stereoscope and the Stereograph,&#8221; which would have been perfect for the Boing Boing of its day:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/185906/holmes" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/185906/holmes</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-111303</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of wet blankets, I run into a paywall when I search the &quot;premium archive&quot; for, let us say, &quot;The Science of Science-Fiction&quot; by John W Campbell Jr. in May 1948, pg. 97.  

Am I missing something?  Or is the free stuff only a selected portion of the &lt;i&gt;Atlantic&lt;/i&gt; collection?  If so, your headline should perhaps read &quot;The Atlantic Monthly sets (a portion of) its archive free.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of wet blankets, I run into a paywall when I search the &#8220;premium archive&#8221; for, let us say, &#8220;The Science of Science-Fiction&#8221; by John W Campbell Jr. in May 1948, pg. 97.  </p>
<p>Am I missing something?  Or is the free stuff only a selected portion of the <i>Atlantic</i> collection?  If so, your headline should perhaps read &#8220;The Atlantic Monthly sets (a portion of) its archive free.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: angry young man</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/01/23/atlantic-monthly-set.html#comment-110801</link>
		<dc:creator>angry young man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reviews:

LOLITA. &quot;It is one of the funniest serious novels I have ever read; and the vision of its abominable hero, who never deludes or excuses himself, brings into grotesque relief the cant, the vulgarity, and the hypocritical conventions that pervade the human comedy.&quot;

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/195809/lolita-review

ON THE ROAD. &quot;The book is most readable. It disappoints because it constantly promises a revelation or a conclusion of real importance and general applicability, and cannot deliver any such conclusion because Dean is more convincing as an eccentric than as a representative of any segment of humanity.&quot;

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/57oct/pla.htm

SCARLET LETTER. &quot;Discreet readers will not construe me too literally when I venture the opinion that the day of dead or galvanized fiction is coming to an end. Let the circulating libraries have no misgivings; nothing is more certain than that, for many a day and year to come, their shelves will groan, as of yore, with admirable examples of the class alluded to. Moreover, Shakespeare lived a long while ago, and Homer and Moses longer yet; so that it might seem as if the threatened danger were safely astern of us, not to mention that, just at present, there seems to be a more than ordinary quantity of cunningly wrought waxen images on hand. As against those arguments and indications, it can only be urged that the progress of the human race probably implies much more than electricity and steering-balloons would prepare us for; and that the true conquest of matter by mind, being a religious rather than a scientific transaction is likely to be felt, obscurely and vaguely, long before it can be definitely comprehended and acknowledged.&quot; [Where do I get me one of those steering-ballons?]

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/188604/scarlet-letter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviews:</p>
<p>LOLITA. &#8220;It is one of the funniest serious novels I have ever read; and the vision of its abominable hero, who never deludes or excuses himself, brings into grotesque relief the cant, the vulgarity, and the hypocritical conventions that pervade the human comedy.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/195809/lolita-review" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/195809/lolita-review</a></p>
<p>ON THE ROAD. &#8220;The book is most readable. It disappoints because it constantly promises a revelation or a conclusion of real importance and general applicability, and cannot deliver any such conclusion because Dean is more convincing as an eccentric than as a representative of any segment of humanity.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/57oct/pla.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/57oct/pla.htm</a></p>
<p>SCARLET LETTER. &#8220;Discreet readers will not construe me too literally when I venture the opinion that the day of dead or galvanized fiction is coming to an end. Let the circulating libraries have no misgivings; nothing is more certain than that, for many a day and year to come, their shelves will groan, as of yore, with admirable examples of the class alluded to. Moreover, Shakespeare lived a long while ago, and Homer and Moses longer yet; so that it might seem as if the threatened danger were safely astern of us, not to mention that, just at present, there seems to be a more than ordinary quantity of cunningly wrought waxen images on hand. As against those arguments and indications, it can only be urged that the progress of the human race probably implies much more than electricity and steering-balloons would prepare us for; and that the true conquest of matter by mind, being a religious rather than a scientific transaction is likely to be felt, obscurely and vaguely, long before it can be definitely comprehended and acknowledged.&#8221; [Where do I get me one of those steering-ballons?]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/188604/scarlet-letter" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/188604/scarlet-letter</a></p>
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		<title>By: the specialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>the specialist</dc:creator>
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		<description>god how i love trenchant insights...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god how i love trenchant insights&#8230;</p>
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