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		<title>By: RickB</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-116736</link>
		<dc:creator>RickB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story is quite old, better article and some history 
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002237
Which appears to be the &#039;basis&#039; of Jone&#039;s wanky article (ahem).
If something is as person&#039;s favourite work then I would expect them to know its real history and acknowledge the difference between that and their personal interpretation. I think it does relate to the &#039;reality based community&#039; meme and the religious preference for faith over reason or facts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is quite old, better article and some history<br />
<a href="http://harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002237" rel="nofollow">http://harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002237</a><br />
Which appears to be the &#8216;basis&#8217; of Jone&#8217;s wanky article (ahem).<br />
If something is as person&#8217;s favourite work then I would expect them to know its real history and acknowledge the difference between that and their personal interpretation. I think it does relate to the &#8216;reality based community&#8217; meme and the religious preference for faith over reason or facts. </p>
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		<title>By: gandalf23</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-116737</link>
		<dc:creator>gandalf23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While trying to find a better copy of the painting (so far the best I found is &lt;a href=&quot;http://harpers.org/media/image/blogs/misc/koerner.gif&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;), I ran across &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/01/27/a-myth-to-keep-gw-bush-and-his-cowboy-painting/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;: 

&quot;The original piece of art is of a horse thief is fleeing a lynch mob.  The Saturday Evening Post liked  W.H.D. Koernerâ€™s illustration so much it used it a year later to illustrate an a short story, â€œWays that are Dark.â€  The caption under the illustration read: â€œBandits Move About From Town to Town, Pillaging Whatever They Can Find.â€  
Koernerâ€™s illustration was picked up again in 1918 by the magazine A Country Gentleman for the story, â€œA Charge to Keep.â€

Dunno if it&#039;s true, but if correct, calling the painting &quot;A Charge to Keep&quot; was not Bush&#039;s invention, it&#039;d been called that since 1918.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While trying to find a better copy of the painting (so far the best I found is <a href="http://harpers.org/media/image/blogs/misc/koerner.gif">this</a>), I ran across <a href="http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/01/27/a-myth-to-keep-gw-bush-and-his-cowboy-painting/">this</a>: </p>
<p>&#8220;The original piece of art is of a horse thief is fleeing a lynch mob.  The Saturday Evening Post liked  W.H.D. Koernerâ€™s illustration so much it used it a year later to illustrate an a short story, â€œWays that are Dark.â€  The caption under the illustration read: â€œBandits Move About From Town to Town, Pillaging Whatever They Can Find.â€<br />
Koernerâ€™s illustration was picked up again in 1918 by the magazine A Country Gentleman for the story, â€œA Charge to Keep.â€</p>
<p>Dunno if it&#8217;s true, but if correct, calling the painting &#8220;A Charge to Keep&#8221; was not Bush&#8217;s invention, it&#8217;d been called that since 1918.  </p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-117761</link>
		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ethics come into play when psychiatrists try to make long-distance diagnoses. The American Psychiatric Assoc established the &quot;Goldwater Rule&quot; in response to a 1964 survey from Fate magazine in which psychiatrists called the candidate &quot;warped&quot; and &quot;paranoid schizophrenic&quot; and speculated about his toilet training. This is Doctor Phil vs. Britney territory.

Among their statements on ethics, the APA says, &quot;On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. &lt;b&gt;In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his/her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he/she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;

I realize psychotherapists and psychoanalysts are not the same as psychiatrists. I can&#039;t imagine why the ethics of this situation would be different for them.

Here&#039;s a pretty comprehensive blog post supposedly by a practicing psychoanalyst/psychiatrist, discussing similar ethical breeches or controversies:
http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2006/10/psychblogging_a.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ethics come into play when psychiatrists try to make long-distance diagnoses. The American Psychiatric Assoc established the &#8220;Goldwater Rule&#8221; in response to a 1964 survey from Fate magazine in which psychiatrists called the candidate &#8220;warped&#8221; and &#8220;paranoid schizophrenic&#8221; and speculated about his toilet training. This is Doctor Phil vs. Britney territory.</p>
<p>Among their statements on ethics, the APA says, &#8220;On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. <b>In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his/her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he/she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>I realize psychotherapists and psychoanalysts are not the same as psychiatrists. I can&#8217;t imagine why the ethics of this situation would be different for them.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a pretty comprehensive blog post supposedly by a practicing psychoanalyst/psychiatrist, discussing similar ethical breeches or controversies:<br />
<a href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2006/10/psychblogging_a.html" rel="nofollow">http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2006/10/psychblogging_a.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-116740</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vancouver police and Vancouver firemen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATjJVdalZc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vancouver police and Vancouver firemen:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATjJVdalZc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATjJVdalZc</a></p>
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		<title>By: mercermachine</title>
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		<dc:creator>mercermachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#9-

Horse thieves were not petty thieves. That was a hanging offense. I&#039;m just sayin&#039;.</description>
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<p>Horse thieves were not petty thieves. That was a hanging offense. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now how did that get here? sorry wrong thread</description>
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		<title>By: Crunchbird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-116747</link>
		<dc:creator>Crunchbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sort of amusing that they didn&#039;t include a single &quot;expert&quot; with any connection to art for this little exercise in &quot;Let&#039;s see if we can get people to provide exactly the stereotypical responses to a question that we expect from them.&quot; 

And what a surprise . . .
 - the psychoanalyst saw repression, 
 - the gender theorist saw sexual politics, 
 - the military historian more or less fabricated allusions to various military conflicts, and 
 - the politician/therapist sees a troubled, unquestioning mind while getting in a few digs at Bush&#039;s history.

I&#039;m pretty much with Mark on this one ... it&#039;s an amusing anecdote/coincidence, but the analysis is nearly all projection by people who disagree with and/or dislike the President.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sort of amusing that they didn&#8217;t include a single &#8220;expert&#8221; with any connection to art for this little exercise in &#8220;Let&#8217;s see if we can get people to provide exactly the stereotypical responses to a question that we expect from them.&#8221; </p>
<p>And what a surprise . . .<br />
 &#8211; the psychoanalyst saw repression,<br />
 &#8211; the gender theorist saw sexual politics,<br />
 &#8211; the military historian more or less fabricated allusions to various military conflicts, and<br />
 &#8211; the politician/therapist sees a troubled, unquestioning mind while getting in a few digs at Bush&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty much with Mark on this one &#8230; it&#8217;s an amusing anecdote/coincidence, but the analysis is nearly all projection by people who disagree with and/or dislike the President.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dodds </title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Dodds </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on this on Mark - there&#039;s not many times I&#039;d come out on Bush&#039;s side but when you range him against psychotherapists commenting on his taste in art well, strange bedfellows is the result. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on this on Mark &#8211; there&#8217;s not many times I&#8217;d come out on Bush&#8217;s side but when you range him against psychotherapists commenting on his taste in art well, strange bedfellows is the result. </p>
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		<title>By: trr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a healthy mind would look at this image and not be certain what it depicted?

hogwash.
it&#039;s a guy riding a horse up a hill, like the president said. as for the rider&#039;s character, that&#039;s another story.
looking at this image and not being certain what it depicts, when it is basically a photorealistic painting of an outdoor scene, strikes me as the response of a schizophrenic, not a healthy mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a healthy mind would look at this image and not be certain what it depicted?</p>
<p>hogwash.<br />
it&#8217;s a guy riding a horse up a hill, like the president said. as for the rider&#8217;s character, that&#8217;s another story.<br />
looking at this image and not being certain what it depicts, when it is basically a photorealistic painting of an outdoor scene, strikes me as the response of a schizophrenic, not a healthy mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-116752</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1:  You&#039;d be amazed at how many of us, even the President, have better things to do than research the history of the art in our lives, even our favourite pieces.

For exactly the same reason, most of us don&#039;t waste time researching the history of the machines in our lives, either.  The machines, like the art, do what they do without us needing to know much about where they came from.

So if you think the Pres ought to be embarrassed by this, you should be embarrassed that you don&#039;t know the history of the automatic transmission, power brakes, or front wheel drive.  You&#039;d appreciate your car so much more if you did (assuming you own a car--replace with obvious examples from other common machines as required.)

This is all best understood as an example of how monkeys over-interpret the behaviour of the alpha monkey.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1:  You&#8217;d be amazed at how many of us, even the President, have better things to do than research the history of the art in our lives, even our favourite pieces.</p>
<p>For exactly the same reason, most of us don&#8217;t waste time researching the history of the machines in our lives, either.  The machines, like the art, do what they do without us needing to know much about where they came from.</p>
<p>So if you think the Pres ought to be embarrassed by this, you should be embarrassed that you don&#8217;t know the history of the automatic transmission, power brakes, or front wheel drive.  You&#8217;d appreciate your car so much more if you did (assuming you own a car&#8211;replace with obvious examples from other common machines as required.)</p>
<p>This is all best understood as an example of how monkeys over-interpret the behaviour of the alpha monkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Pipenta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pipenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is pretty safe office art. Bush fancies himself a cowboy. If you&#039;ve ever met a real cowboy, you&#039;d know that pampered Georgie boy is the furthest thing from it. 

The painting has a &quot;merican&quot; subject. It isn&#039;t an abstract. It doesn&#039;t do anything &quot;freaky&quot; with color or light. It has a landscape background. A landscape without the figures (action figures even) would have been more neutral, but Bush doesn&#039;t worry about neutrality. And the comic book action is just the ticket for someone with the emotional sophistication of a 12 yr old. 

If the Connecticut side of his upbringing was dominant, you&#039;d see something different. It wouldn&#039;t be a mere seascape. He&#039;d have a huge grim oil painting of a pirate clinging to a ship&#039;s wheel in the teeth of a gale. He would think it was a missionary sailing out to convert the heathens.

Yee-haw or Heave-to, it&#039;s all the same stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty safe office art. Bush fancies himself a cowboy. If you&#8217;ve ever met a real cowboy, you&#8217;d know that pampered Georgie boy is the furthest thing from it. </p>
<p>The painting has a &#8220;merican&#8221; subject. It isn&#8217;t an abstract. It doesn&#8217;t do anything &#8220;freaky&#8221; with color or light. It has a landscape background. A landscape without the figures (action figures even) would have been more neutral, but Bush doesn&#8217;t worry about neutrality. And the comic book action is just the ticket for someone with the emotional sophistication of a 12 yr old. </p>
<p>If the Connecticut side of his upbringing was dominant, you&#8217;d see something different. It wouldn&#8217;t be a mere seascape. He&#8217;d have a huge grim oil painting of a pirate clinging to a ship&#8217;s wheel in the teeth of a gale. He would think it was a missionary sailing out to convert the heathens.</p>
<p>Yee-haw or Heave-to, it&#8217;s all the same stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Bevatron Repairman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bevatron Repairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@28 - I work downtown, live in the East Bay.  I&#039;ve always had pretty much that story with that piece of art as long as its been there (10 years or so?).  How weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@28 &#8211; I work downtown, live in the East Bay.  I&#8217;ve always had pretty much that story with that piece of art as long as its been there (10 years or so?).  How weird.</p>
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		<title>By: airship</title>
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		<dc:creator>airship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalist: &quot;Mr. President, why is this your favorite painting?&quot;

Bush: &quot;It&#039;s a cowboy. And he&#039;s ridin&#039; a horsie!&quot;

&#039;Nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalist: &#8220;Mr. President, why is this your favorite painting?&#8221;</p>
<p>Bush: &#8220;It&#8217;s a cowboy. And he&#8217;s ridin&#8217; a horsie!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: paul beard</title>
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		<description>retnull @ 13 does the heavy lifting and reminds us to read a more detailed writeup. I saw that same piece and haven&#039;t read the Guardian piece. How anyone could see that as an illustration of religious devotion or the dedication of a missionary is interesting, to say the least. 

If it doesn&#039;t signify anything about the incumbent&#039;s self-perception, it does offer some insight into his interest in the world around him. His entire administration is built around some notion of ideological purity, so the fact that no one had the curiosity to perform a cursory look into that painting and it&#039;s provenance is telling. Imputing religious motives to a secular image is what people do when they see the Virgin Mary in a mold stain but at least that has an uncontroversial origin. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>retnull @ 13 does the heavy lifting and reminds us to read a more detailed writeup. I saw that same piece and haven&#8217;t read the Guardian piece. How anyone could see that as an illustration of religious devotion or the dedication of a missionary is interesting, to say the least. </p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t signify anything about the incumbent&#8217;s self-perception, it does offer some insight into his interest in the world around him. His entire administration is built around some notion of ideological purity, so the fact that no one had the curiosity to perform a cursory look into that painting and it&#8217;s provenance is telling. Imputing religious motives to a secular image is what people do when they see the Virgin Mary in a mold stain but at least that has an uncontroversial origin. </p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
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		<description>I just find it interesting that he says &quot;This is us&quot; when originally, it was a PAINTING OF A HORSE THIEF

Pretty much sums it up... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just find it interesting that he says &#8220;This is us&#8221; when originally, it was a PAINTING OF A HORSE THIEF</p>
<p>Pretty much sums it up&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Hounskull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hounskull</dc:creator>
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		<description>Bush is an a-hole, but so are the people who buy into that goofy and pretentious pop-psych analysis. You don&#039;t need to critique his taste in art or lack of art history to see why he&#039;s bad, just look at his record and life to see what a monstrosity he is.

He doesn&#039;t know the origins of the painting. So what? So people who read this article now know a bit of trivia he doesn&#039;t. So what? 

I know plenty of artists and art appreciators who know nothing about the genesis of Picasso&#039;s cubist work and the parallels in n-dimensional physics and Christian 2D &quot;Gods Eye&quot; artwork which date back to Egyptian art, and then the Renaissance move to 3D perspective, and the philosophical underpinnings for that. For that matter I know physicists who are also unaware of the connection but still enjoy the aesthetics of Picasso&#039;s work. They all have a generally post modern, deconstructed, world view, regardless. They&#039;re all curious people (unlike Bush) and know plenty of things I&#039;m completely ignorant of.

The sort of pretentiousness which this article represents is amazingly counter productive. It&#039;s exactly the sort of empty snobbery which greatly encourages rural folks to be more reactionary and vote for a-holes like Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush is an a-hole, but so are the people who buy into that goofy and pretentious pop-psych analysis. You don&#8217;t need to critique his taste in art or lack of art history to see why he&#8217;s bad, just look at his record and life to see what a monstrosity he is.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t know the origins of the painting. So what? So people who read this article now know a bit of trivia he doesn&#8217;t. So what? </p>
<p>I know plenty of artists and art appreciators who know nothing about the genesis of Picasso&#8217;s cubist work and the parallels in n-dimensional physics and Christian 2D &#8220;Gods Eye&#8221; artwork which date back to Egyptian art, and then the Renaissance move to 3D perspective, and the philosophical underpinnings for that. For that matter I know physicists who are also unaware of the connection but still enjoy the aesthetics of Picasso&#8217;s work. They all have a generally post modern, deconstructed, world view, regardless. They&#8217;re all curious people (unlike Bush) and know plenty of things I&#8217;m completely ignorant of.</p>
<p>The sort of pretentiousness which this article represents is amazingly counter productive. It&#8217;s exactly the sort of empty snobbery which greatly encourages rural folks to be more reactionary and vote for a-holes like Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ceci n&#039;est pas un cowboy</description>
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		<title>By: Hounskull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hounskull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS, I&#039;d also point out the possibility he actually knows the origins of the painting, and is laughing at the irony.

Also, the protagonist has a strong resemblance to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, I&#8217;d also point out the possibility he actually knows the origins of the painting, and is laughing at the irony.</p>
<p>Also, the protagonist has a strong resemblance to him.</p>
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		<title>By: rrsafety</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-118833</link>
		<dc:creator>rrsafety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You folks are bashing a guy because of his taste in art ... do you ever wonder if you suffer from mental illness? Really, I wonder. 

The painting was once used to illustrate a story &quot;A Charge to Keep&quot;. He likes it. So what?

I think some of you are truly nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You folks are bashing a guy because of his taste in art &#8230; do you ever wonder if you suffer from mental illness? Really, I wonder. </p>
<p>The painting was once used to illustrate a story &#8220;A Charge to Keep&#8221;. He likes it. So what?</p>
<p>I think some of you are truly nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Djinn PAWN</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-117813</link>
		<dc:creator>Djinn PAWN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hereâ€™s my two centsâ€¦

We have to remember that this is not interpretative art, but a commissioned illustration to depict a very specific situation. 

So although the idea of interpreting art for oneâ€™s self and finding meaning in it is something that I myself strive for, when I look at an illustration of, letâ€™s sayâ€¦ Superman (another piece of commissioned art for a publication), there is a specific back story, history, and -more importantly- intent to the art in question. One could look at the cover of Action Comics #1 and say â€œlook at that villain smashing that car!â€ but we all know the specific intent of the illustration, and if we donâ€™t a very cursory glance at the publication or a few keyboard taps would be able to set us strait about the illustrationâ€™s â€˜ambiguousâ€™ scenario.

If Bush had a painted illustration of Ted Bundy on his wall and told everyone who walked in his office that this was â€˜usâ€™, this was â€˜Americaâ€¦ clean cut and politeâ€™ weâ€™d all think he was nuts (well... more so than we do now). â€œBut,â€ Bush says, â€œthe guy who sold me the painting SAID he was nice!â€

Ignorance is no excuse when information is so readily available... especially when you think some researcher or editor or President would have checked prior to borrowing the â€˜nameâ€™ of his favourite painting for a book title. 

I wonder which list of people is longer (news article writers, book editors, white house staff); people who have told Bush that heâ€™s wrong about this, or people who know that telling him would do no good.

Bottom line? Bush assumed quite a bit about this illustrative painting, and the public, seeing him as some one who assumes quite a lot about quite a few things, views this story as a microcosm of his presidential tenure... and we all know what happens when Bush assumes too much.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hereâ€™s my two centsâ€¦</p>
<p>We have to remember that this is not interpretative art, but a commissioned illustration to depict a very specific situation. </p>
<p>So although the idea of interpreting art for oneâ€™s self and finding meaning in it is something that I myself strive for, when I look at an illustration of, letâ€™s sayâ€¦ Superman (another piece of commissioned art for a publication), there is a specific back story, history, and -more importantly- intent to the art in question. One could look at the cover of Action Comics #1 and say â€œlook at that villain smashing that car!â€ but we all know the specific intent of the illustration, and if we donâ€™t a very cursory glance at the publication or a few keyboard taps would be able to set us strait about the illustrationâ€™s â€˜ambiguousâ€™ scenario.</p>
<p>If Bush had a painted illustration of Ted Bundy on his wall and told everyone who walked in his office that this was â€˜usâ€™, this was â€˜Americaâ€¦ clean cut and politeâ€™ weâ€™d all think he was nuts (well&#8230; more so than we do now). â€œBut,â€ Bush says, â€œthe guy who sold me the painting SAID he was nice!â€</p>
<p>Ignorance is no excuse when information is so readily available&#8230; especially when you think some researcher or editor or President would have checked prior to borrowing the â€˜nameâ€™ of his favourite painting for a book title. </p>
<p>I wonder which list of people is longer (news article writers, book editors, white house staff); people who have told Bush that heâ€™s wrong about this, or people who know that telling him would do no good.</p>
<p>Bottom line? Bush assumed quite a bit about this illustrative painting, and the public, seeing him as some one who assumes quite a lot about quite a few things, views this story as a microcosm of his presidential tenure&#8230; and we all know what happens when Bush assumes too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Namdnal Siroj</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-118338</link>
		<dc:creator>Namdnal Siroj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one that thinks that the horse thief looks a lot like (a youg) Bush himself?</description>
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		<title>By: calabanos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-118097</link>
		<dc:creator>calabanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s sad that the leader of the free world would hang a piece of crap like that up in his office and call it his &quot;favorite painting&quot; with all the insight of a high school sophomore that just won a pink ribbon at the state fair. 

It is sad, but I&#039;m not surprised. Americans hate art. That&#039;s why they say stupid things like it &quot;means different things for different people&quot; or &quot;open to interpretation&quot;. They hate it because if they want to enjoy it they&#039;d need to actually think.

Americans love illustration. Americans hate art. 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s sad that the leader of the free world would hang a piece of crap like that up in his office and call it his &#8220;favorite painting&#8221; with all the insight of a high school sophomore that just won a pink ribbon at the state fair. </p>
<p>It is sad, but I&#8217;m not surprised. Americans hate art. That&#8217;s why they say stupid things like it &#8220;means different things for different people&#8221; or &#8220;open to interpretation&#8221;. They hate it because if they want to enjoy it they&#8217;d need to actually think.</p>
<p>Americans love illustration. Americans hate art. </p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-118359</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Guardian piece was bullshit-the &#039;analysts&#039; tagged on simply so it wouldn&#039;t look like what it was--a crib of the Harper&#039;s piece. The Harper&#039;s piece was, however, bang on. Bush seeing a hero in a painting of a horse thief is a PERFECT summation of the man and the administration. Surely you&#039;re n board with that, Mark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Guardian piece was bullshit-the &#8216;analysts&#8217; tagged on simply so it wouldn&#8217;t look like what it was&#8211;a crib of the Harper&#8217;s piece. The Harper&#8217;s piece was, however, bang on. Bush seeing a hero in a painting of a horse thief is a PERFECT summation of the man and the administration. Surely you&#8217;re n board with that, Mark?</p>
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		<title>By: SpigotHead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-117865</link>
		<dc:creator>SpigotHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone&#039;s looking for subtlety in Bush&#039;s admiration of this painting.  There is none.  It&#039;s plain to see why he likes it.  The man in the painting looks somewhat like Bush, and he&#039;s charging up a mountain. leading all the others.  Bush is projecting himself into the action.  That&#039;s as deep as Bush will ever get.

It&#039;s probably obvious, but you would be hard pressed to find someone who dislikes Bush more than I do.  However this armchair psychiatry is a bunch of crap.  I might come up with a similar story behind the painting if I were told it was titled &quot;A Charge to Keep&quot;.  Now if it were my favorite painting, I would probably look into its background.  But I think I&#039;m safe in assuming Bush doesn&#039;t have my intellectual curiosity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone&#8217;s looking for subtlety in Bush&#8217;s admiration of this painting.  There is none.  It&#8217;s plain to see why he likes it.  The man in the painting looks somewhat like Bush, and he&#8217;s charging up a mountain. leading all the others.  Bush is projecting himself into the action.  That&#8217;s as deep as Bush will ever get.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably obvious, but you would be hard pressed to find someone who dislikes Bush more than I do.  However this armchair psychiatry is a bunch of crap.  I might come up with a similar story behind the painting if I were told it was titled &#8220;A Charge to Keep&#8221;.  Now if it were my favorite painting, I would probably look into its background.  But I think I&#8217;m safe in assuming Bush doesn&#8217;t have my intellectual curiosity.</p>
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		<title>By: Keneke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-117869</link>
		<dc:creator>Keneke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 - Totally agree. The analysis of Bush&#039;s words shows just as much human foible in the analyzers as Bush&#039;s original interpretation of the painting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 &#8211; Totally agree. The analysis of Bush&#8217;s words shows just as much human foible in the analyzers as Bush&#8217;s original interpretation of the painting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-117879</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I have issues with George W., can we overanalyze anything that anyone owns, consumes or views, PLZ?

This is petty at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I have issues with George W., can we overanalyze anything that anyone owns, consumes or views, PLZ?</p>
<p>This is petty at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Carnage</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-118157</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Carnage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; What&#039;s wrong with coming up with your own interpretation of what a painting means?

There&#039;s nothing wrong with that. But that&#039;s not what Bush did. He heard a story about the picture, assumed it to be fact, and never questioned it. Sounds familiar. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> What&#8217;s wrong with coming up with your own interpretation of what a painting means?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that. But that&#8217;s not what Bush did. He heard a story about the picture, assumed it to be fact, and never questioned it. Sounds familiar. </p>
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		<title>By: buddy66</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-118171</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a bad painting of a horse about to have at least one broken leg.  Jesus H. Christ, horses can&#039;t gallop on rubble!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a bad painting of a horse about to have at least one broken leg.  Jesus H. Christ, horses can&#8217;t gallop on rubble!</p>
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		<title>By: selkie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-117932</link>
		<dc:creator>selkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think anyone is looking for &quot;subtlety&quot; in Bush&#039;s admiration for the painting, nor is anyone criticizing some kind of lack of sophistication in Bush&#039;s comments about his favorite painting. They are interpreting Bush&#039;s comments about his favorite painting? So what?

Mark asked, &quot;what&#039;s wrong with coming up with your own interpretation of what a painting means?&quot;

Nothing. Who in the article claimed Bush&#039;s interpretation was wrong? I think the subject of what Bush might say about his favorite painting is interesting, and what&#039;s more, the interpreters in this case have produced concise, creative, and amusing interpretations. 

If the story offered by the &quot;armchair&quot; psychiatrists is such &quot;crap&quot; why claim that you (spigothead) might have come up with a similar story yourself? 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think anyone is looking for &#8220;subtlety&#8221; in Bush&#8217;s admiration for the painting, nor is anyone criticizing some kind of lack of sophistication in Bush&#8217;s comments about his favorite painting. They are interpreting Bush&#8217;s comments about his favorite painting? So what?</p>
<p>Mark asked, &#8220;what&#8217;s wrong with coming up with your own interpretation of what a painting means?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing. Who in the article claimed Bush&#8217;s interpretation was wrong? I think the subject of what Bush might say about his favorite painting is interesting, and what&#8217;s more, the interpreters in this case have produced concise, creative, and amusing interpretations. </p>
<p>If the story offered by the &#8220;armchair&#8221; psychiatrists is such &#8220;crap&#8221; why claim that you (spigothead) might have come up with a similar story yourself? </p>
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		<title>By: Ben Popken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/02/01/analyzing-bush-based.html#comment-117933</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Popken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What first strikes me about this painting is that it&#039;s possible to interpret the horse as running backwards.</description>
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