Comments on: Remixable German documentary about me and Internet freedom http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 06:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: elsmiley http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131588 elsmiley Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131588 As a long-time Boinger, I express full support of Cory's hawking his wares here (I also support the streetwalker lifting up her skirt to promote what she is selling). It's always been that way and there is nothing wrong with it. As a long-time Boinger, I express full support of Cory’s hawking his wares here (I also support the streetwalker lifting up her skirt to promote what she is selling). It’s always been that way and there is nothing wrong with it.

]]> By: Happy http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131333 Happy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131333 Congratz Gory! It is always good to see fellow netcitizens do well. Is you book available in English? It sounds interesting. Congratz Gory! It is always good to see fellow netcitizens do well. Is you book available in English? It sounds interesting.

]]> By: Aaron http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131336 Aaron Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131336 <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131327>#1</a> Looking at the vast number of posts on BoingBoing and the relatively tiny number of them that has anything to do with Cory Himself, I call bullshit. Yes, he does post news about himself now and then. I have a hard time believing that you wouldn't post about it if, for example, somebody made a documentary about you. (I know I would.) The way I see it, he is one of five Bloggers here on BB. If the number of "Posts about Cory" would start to approach a fifth of this site, I too would see a problem. As it's not even anywhere near that and he posts about a bazillion other things beside his own works (And presumably has the ok of the other BB people when doing so.), I don't see any reason to bitch about it. (Of course, that's the internet. Who needs a reason here, right?) #comment-131849 Thanks for the clarification regarding the disemvowellings, TNH. I think that it's a good thing to tell someone why their post has had the vowels taken out, even if it's just because it's unwise to help people feed the trolls. Like ME, I had also caught that post and wondered about why it had been removed, although I assumed it was just because the article it was about was slightly dated (but still fascinating to me). I've seen posts removed for what I assumed was a similar reason and figured this was more of the same. That's not why I bring it up though, it's because I notice that the link he included was also disemvowelled. Since that doesn't simply make what he wrote harder to read but in essence creates a broken link with no hope of repairing it (I tried and failed), wouldn't it be better to cut it out and say something like "(Link Removed)" in this situation? Thanks for the clarification regarding the disemvowellings, TNH. I think that it’s a good thing to tell someone why their post has had the vowels taken out, even if it’s just because it’s unwise to help people feed the trolls.

Like ME, I had also caught that post and wondered about why it had been removed, although I assumed it was just because the article it was about was slightly dated (but still fascinating to me). I’ve seen posts removed for what I assumed was a similar reason and figured this was more of the same. That’s not why I bring it up though, it’s because I notice that the link he included was also disemvowelled. Since that doesn’t simply make what he wrote harder to read but in essence creates a broken link with no hope of repairing it (I tried and failed), wouldn’t it be better to cut it out and say something like “(Link Removed)” in this situation?

]]> By: Lizzle http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131350 Lizzle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131350 That has to be the Platonic Boing Boing headline. That has to be the Platonic Boing Boing headline.

]]> By: funeralpudding http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131862 funeralpudding Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131862 "I write for magazines -- if you'd like to commission me to write to your spec, you can found a magazine and approach me with a contract." Not with that grammar! Just kidding dude, keep up the good work. “I write for magazines — if you’d like to commission me to write to your spec, you can found a magazine and approach me with a contract.”

Not with that grammar!

Just kidding dude, keep up the good work.

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131865 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131865 <i>I'm experimentally trying this unfamiliar new business of explaining why people got disemvowelled.</i> I kind of enjoyed the random bolt from heaven, but then I haven't been hit by lightning yet. I’m experimentally trying this unfamiliar new business of explaining why people got disemvowelled.

I kind of enjoyed the random bolt from heaven, but then I haven’t been hit by lightning yet.

]]> By: Cory Doctorow http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131361 Cory Doctorow Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131361 Morbius@1: Apparently, you've hallucinated some editorial guidelines directing the editors here as to what we may and may not post. Unfortunately, we are not actually working for you. Boing Boing has ALWAYS featured its' editors' personal projects -- and it always will. If that bugs you, you're reading the wrong site. Now, as weird as it is for you to show up and complain that you don't like the flavor of the free ice-cream -- and to make ridiculous, unsupported and untrue statements about the proportion of my posting that concerns my projects (it's less than one percent, something that you can easily verify) -- is that you think that this would be MORE acceptable if I disguised posts about myself by getting my co-editors to write about ti. Where on earth did you get the impression that Boing Boing was a place that didn't include its editors' personal projects? These have been a feature of Boing Boing since the print days. If that bugs you, go somewhere else. Morbius@1: Apparently, you’ve hallucinated some editorial guidelines directing the editors here as to what we may and may not post. Unfortunately, we are not actually working for you. Boing Boing has ALWAYS featured its’ editors’ personal projects — and it always will. If that bugs you, you’re reading the wrong site.

Now, as weird as it is for you to show up and complain that you don’t like the flavor of the free ice-cream — and to make ridiculous, unsupported and untrue statements about the proportion of my posting that concerns my projects (it’s less than one percent, something that you can easily verify) — is that you think that this would be MORE acceptable if I disguised posts about myself by getting my co-editors to write about ti.

Where on earth did you get the impression that Boing Boing was a place that didn’t include its editors’ personal projects? These have been a feature of Boing Boing since the print days. If that bugs you, go somewhere else.

]]> By: elNico http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131366 elNico Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131366 Nice feature... Nice feature…

]]> By: JohnEats http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131374 JohnEats Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131374 #3 - I agree! Sometimes BoingBoingers also post about Amy Crehore and Coop. #3 – I agree! Sometimes BoingBoingers also post about Amy Crehore and Coop.

]]> By: Sensoz http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131386 Sensoz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131386 Are there any plans to have French or English subtitles? Are there any plans to have French or English subtitles?

]]> By: Nixar http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131390 Nixar Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131390 Those assholes didn't put the French language version online. It's only available from their craptacular Windows DRM-encumbered Piece of Shit VOD site. Which, on top of being technically repugnant, is extremely expensive: I was checking out one specific episode of "Le Dessous des Cartes", a 10 min long show, and it was priced at 3.99€. Plus DRM. / one pissed-off French taxpayer Those assholes didn’t put the French language version online.
It’s only available from their craptacular Windows DRM-encumbered Piece of Shit VOD site. Which, on top of being technically repugnant, is extremely expensive: I was checking out one specific episode of “Le Dessous des Cartes”, a 10 min long show, and it was priced at 3.99€. Plus DRM.

/ one pissed-off French taxpayer

]]> By: crayzieman http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131393 crayzieman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131393 I don't get what there is to complain about anyway, the weekends are usually boring on here (not any fault of any of the editors, I'm sure they're just busy on the weekends). It's nice to see someone posting loads on the weekend for once. That might be another reason why it seems so one sided, no one else has really been posting so it kind of looks like Cory is post whoring when he really isn't. It's the same frequency of posts just no one else posting to break things up between his posts. Besides, Cory, Xeni, Joel, Mark, etc are all awesome people and any one of them could turn this into their own personal blog and I'd still read it religiously. I don’t get what there is to complain about anyway, the weekends are usually boring on here (not any fault of any of the editors, I’m sure they’re just busy on the weekends). It’s nice to see someone posting loads on the weekend for once. That might be another reason why it seems so one sided, no one else has really been posting so it kind of looks like Cory is post whoring when he really isn’t. It’s the same frequency of posts just no one else posting to break things up between his posts.

Besides, Cory, Xeni, Joel, Mark, etc are all awesome people and any one of them could turn this into their own personal blog and I’d still read it religiously.

]]> By: Irene Delse http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131399 Irene Delse Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131399 #8 : I concur, it would have been nice... But since the docu is remixable, it's possible they are leaving that to the Internet community. #8 : I concur, it would have been nice… But since the docu is remixable, it’s possible they are leaving that to the Internet community.

]]> By: Cory Doctorow http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131402 Cory Doctorow Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131402 dotSUB is a great site for collaborative subtitling. dotSUB is a great site for collaborative subtitling.

]]> By: Jeff http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131675 Jeff Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131675 Elsmiley, are you saying Doctorow is like a sex worker? If so, when is he going to lift up his skirt and show it off? Image: Doctorow standing with utility kilt pulled up to show off new copy of a book--like a fig leaf. Now that would be a funny picture. Elsmiley, are you saying Doctorow is like a sex worker? If so, when is he going to lift up his skirt and show it off? Image: Doctorow standing with utility kilt pulled up to show off new copy of a book–like a fig leaf. Now that would be a funny picture.

]]> By: ME http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131421 ME Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131421 Whl fnd th slf-prmtn n Bng Bng t b t n ccptbl lvl, ws prtty prtrbd t fnd n flsh pst t b flshd dwn th mmry hl. Thnk gdnss fr Ggl's cch: http://64.233.169.104/srch?q=cch:1hq2nV4hkJ:www.bngbng.nt/2008/02/23/pntgn-t-bsh-cl.html+pntgn&hl=n&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=s pblctn's dtrl ntgrty s dcrsd whn t trs t rs t's mstks, rthr thn wnng p t thm. Bng Bng rrly ddrsss ts rrrs. Lnks r ftn pstd ndscrmntly, s lng s th prty ln s spprtd. f th stry ltr trns t t b rrnsly ctd, th mttr jst gts swpt ndr th rg. Gd lck nd ll, bt yr crdblty tks ht frm sch ctns. Whl fnd th slf-prmtn n Bng Bng t b t n ccptbl lvl, ws prtty prtrbd t fnd n flsh pst t b flshd dwn th mmry hl. Thnk gdnss fr Ggl’s cch:

http://64.233.169.104/srch?q=cch:1hq2nV4hkJ:www.bngbng.nt/2008/02/23/pntgn-t-bsh-cl.html+pntgn&hl=n&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=s

pblctn’s dtrl ntgrty s dcrsd whn t trs t rs t’s mstks, rthr thn wnng p t thm. Bng Bng rrly ddrsss ts rrrs. Lnks r ftn pstd ndscrmntly, s lng s th prty ln s spprtd. f th stry ltr trns t t b rrnsly ctd, th mttr jst gts swpt ndr th rg.

Gd lck nd ll, bt yr crdblty tks ht frm sch ctns.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131424 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131424 `I found the moderation entirely too lax on this site. Far too much insolence and malicious irrelevance is tolerated. I vote for an immediate 500% increase in use of the delete button. `I found the moderation entirely too lax on this site. Far too much insolence and malicious irrelevance is tolerated. I vote for an immediate 500% increase in use of the delete button.

]]> By: nex http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131427 nex Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131427 arte makes very cool things, but as Nixar (#9) said, they are rather restricrtive when it comes to putting their videos on the web. I'm in Austria and can receive the German version of arte, but their web site locks me out of much content that is free to view for Germans. Most of the restrictions are probably not because arte themselves suck that much, but because of licensing agreements they more or less have to make. Still, I would find it better if their policy was to either provide a VOD to everyone or no one, instead of just to Windows users. Using tax-payer money to help cementing a near-monopoly is an extremely bad idea. Secondly, I'm more than comfortable with translating between English and German. Would anyone like to make English subtitles? I don't have the time to do this by myself, but I'd like to help ... if someone has ambitions, maybe set up a project wiki and post a link here? Lastly, Me's post #13 above is off topic, but, yeah, indeed, what's up with that vanished story? Is there some benign explanation? I don't believe the bbers are too cool for apologising for mistakes ... or are they? arte makes very cool things, but as Nixar (#9) said, they are rather restricrtive when it comes to putting their videos on the web. I’m in Austria and can receive the German version of arte, but their web site locks me out of much content that is free to view for Germans. Most of the restrictions are probably not because arte themselves suck that much, but because of licensing agreements they more or less have to make. Still, I would find it better if their policy was to either provide a VOD to everyone or no one, instead of just to Windows users. Using tax-payer money to help cementing a near-monopoly is an extremely bad idea.

Secondly, I’m more than comfortable with translating between English and German. Would anyone like to make English subtitles? I don’t have the time to do this by myself, but I’d like to help … if someone has ambitions, maybe set up a project wiki and post a link here?

Lastly, Me’s post #13 above is off topic, but, yeah, indeed, what’s up with that vanished story? Is there some benign explanation? I don’t believe the bbers are too cool for apologising for mistakes … or are they?

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131433 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131433 see what I mean? Who gives a shit? Sheesh! I know if I had to put up with this petty sniping I'd be pretty goddamned cranky. It's like being surrounded by Trekkies calling you out on Episode 37.c para h line 7. see what I mean? Who gives a shit? Sheesh! I know if I had to put up with this petty sniping I’d be pretty goddamned cranky. It’s like being surrounded by Trekkies calling you out on Episode 37.c para h line 7.

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131434 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131434 I would like to say, with respect to the other BBers, that it was duller here when Cory was holed up with his new pouchling. Not only does he contribute a huge chunk of content, he contributes interesting and controversial content that gets these comment threads humming. I would like to say, with respect to the other BBers, that it was duller here when Cory was holed up with his new pouchling. Not only does he contribute a huge chunk of content, he contributes interesting and controversial content that gets these comment threads humming.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131435 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131435 yes, he is a trouble-maker - but a useful trouble-maker yes, he is a trouble-maker – but a useful trouble-maker

]]> By: zenhammond http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131438 zenhammond Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131438 Cry, Mrbs wsn't ddn't sy t ws mr ccptbl, jst tht t wld b lss bvs. thnk h/sh ws nt rlly srsly sggstng ths, s vr-rctd lttl. S y dn't wrk fr s? Wh d y wrk fr? Why s Bng Bng hr, f nt t ntrtn th bllns f ppl wh vst hr vrydy? Th nswr s bvs, t s hr fr yr slf-prmtn (whch hv n prblm wth, vn f thr r fw hrs nd drt n th fr c crm smtms). My frst ttrctn t Bng Bng ws tht t ws jst cl ppl shrng cl lnks. Nw y r cllng ppl hllcngnc whn thy cmpln (ddn't y jst wrt n ssy bt hw flks shld cmpln?). Tllng ppl t g wy f thy dn't lk t hr? Jst nt th nc gy mg hv lwys hd f y. Dltng psts tht wr mbrrssng? Why nt jst mk n thr pst pntng t wht slly mstk y md? Snc thr r ngtv cmmnts, shr smrt fllws wrds (slghtly dtd)...Y rn’t fv-yr-lds brngng hs fngrpntngs hm frm kndrgrtn. W dn’t hv t pt n brv sml nd cmmnt, “tht’s jst lvly dr". Crry n my wywrd sn, Zn Hmmnd Cry,
Mrbs wsn’t ddn’t sy t ws mr ccptbl, jst tht t wld b lss bvs. thnk h/sh ws nt rlly srsly sggstng ths, s vr-rctd lttl.

S y dn’t wrk fr s? Wh d y wrk fr? Why s Bng Bng hr, f nt t ntrtn th bllns f ppl wh vst hr vrydy? Th nswr s bvs, t s hr fr yr slf-prmtn (whch hv n prblm wth, vn f thr r fw hrs nd drt n th fr c crm smtms).

My frst ttrctn t Bng Bng ws tht t ws jst cl ppl shrng cl lnks. Nw y r cllng ppl hllcngnc whn thy cmpln (ddn’t y jst wrt n ssy bt hw flks shld cmpln?).

Tllng ppl t g wy f thy dn’t lk t hr? Jst nt th nc gy mg hv lwys hd f y. Dltng psts tht wr mbrrssng? Why nt jst mk n thr pst pntng t wht slly mstk y md?

Snc thr r ngtv cmmnts, shr smrt fllws wrds (slghtly dtd)…Y rn’t fv-yr-lds brngng hs fngrpntngs hm frm kndrgrtn. W dn’t hv t pt n brv sml nd cmmnt, “tht’s jst lvly dr”.

Crry n my wywrd sn,
Zn Hmmnd

]]> By: Sparrow http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131695 Sparrow Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131695 I don't mind the shameless self promotion, as long as it's interesting, relevant or fun. And since I happen to like Cory Doctorow's work, and I tend to like the ideas Cory expresses on Boing Boing enough to keep coming back, that's most if not all of the time. My only problem with this post is the lack of a translation. But since the doc is remixable, I hope there are some multlingual fans out there who can come up with a sub. #36 I can has unicorn chaser now plz. I don’t mind the shameless self promotion, as long as it’s interesting, relevant or fun. And since I happen to like Cory Doctorow’s work, and I tend to like the ideas Cory expresses on Boing Boing enough to keep coming back, that’s most if not all of the time. My only problem with this post is the lack of a translation. But since the doc is remixable, I hope there are some multlingual fans out there who can come up with a sub.

#36 I can has unicorn chaser now plz.

]]> By: ill lich http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131440 ill lich Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131440 Addressing post #1: Seems to me, if it's Cory's site (in part) then Cory can post whatever he damn well likes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the vast majority of blogs all about self-promotion, although it's often masked people talking about "things they like"-- why should BoingBoing be any different? Addressing post #1:

Seems to me, if it’s Cory’s site (in part) then Cory can post whatever he damn well likes. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the vast majority of blogs all about self-promotion, although it’s often masked people talking about “things they like”– why should BoingBoing be any different?

]]> By: kaosdevice http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131444 kaosdevice Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131444 Cory, No goggles or red cape? C'mon! Cory,

No goggles or red cape? C’mon!

]]> By: strider_mt2k http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131447 strider_mt2k Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131447 "How many of these guys are named Cory anyway?" “How many of these guys are named Cory anyway?”

]]> By: Stefan Jones http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131450 Stefan Jones Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131450 Wait, wasn't there going to be free ice-cream? Wait, wasn’t there going to be free ice-cream?

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131452 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131452 It's being combed even as we speak. It’s being combed even as we speak.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/02/24/remixable-german-doc.html#comment-131456 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-131456 well, there WAS free ice cream, but SOMEBODY spilled it well, there WAS free ice cream, but SOMEBODY spilled it

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