Comments on: Remixing the London police's anti-photographer terrror posters http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Rick. http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137217 Rick. Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137217 My take. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rickcortes/2312095821/ :) My take.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rickcortes/2312095821/

:)

]]> By: raisedbywolves http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137224 raisedbywolves Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137224 I dig the "fearmongering" one. I dig the “fearmongering” one.

]]> By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137736 Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137736 Bad nasty links all gone. Bad nasty links all gone.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137740 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137740 awwww! awwww!

]]> By: el_leafo http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137996 el_leafo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137996 Am I really the only person who thinks the original/real poster is not that bad? See someone acting suspiciously, report it. Seems fairly common sense. I don't see the bit where it says shoot all photographers on sight, denounce your neighbours, or anything remotely comparable to goings-on in North Korea or any other totalitarian fascist state, as comments have suggested. I also find it a quite weird for people to call the poster "fearmongering". Fearmongering is based on paranoia and conjecture; it creates and exploits people's fears for an ulterior motive, Conversely this poster campaign: 1. Refers to a real danger. It seems retarded to even have to say this, but terrorists do plant bombs in London on a pretty regular basis, killing and maiming random, innocent people. It's weird that none of the comments on this thread so far have countenanced that fact. 2. Is not creating fear out of nothing - fear already exists from the above mentioned reality. In fact the poster may actually make people feel less fearful, in the knowledge something is being done to prevent further bombings. 3. I'm probably completely wasting my time trying to convince anyone on this thread that there may not be an ulterior motive, but just imagine; there may not actually be an ulterior motive! They may actually just be trying really hard to think of possible ways to prevent random innocent people getting blown up. Crazy thought isn't it? Yes, fearmongering is bad, but why not "stay calm and carry on" while also using some common sense and taking reasonable precautions. That's the message I take from the poster. Londoners have been told to report unaccompanied baggage for decades and no-one ever called that fascist fearmongering. As bombs being left all over the place in sports bags was a pretty regular occurence, it always seemed like a fairly sensible idea, and it has been effective in preventing people getting killed. I also actually like the idea of involving the whole community in taking ownership/responsibility for the safety of the community, rather than giving the government and the police all the control and responsibility. It also seems to me a fairly common sense approach compared to say, invading other countries to supposedly prevent terrorism. I'm not sure what alternative ideas people on this thread have for preventing terrorist bombings in London. Strangely no-one has mentioned any yet. Let's hear them. Am I really the only person who thinks the original/real poster is not that bad?

See someone acting suspiciously, report it. Seems fairly common sense.

I don’t see the bit where it says shoot all photographers on sight, denounce your neighbours, or anything remotely comparable to goings-on in North Korea or any other totalitarian fascist state, as comments have suggested.

I also find it a quite weird for people to call the poster “fearmongering”.

Fearmongering is based on paranoia and conjecture; it creates and exploits people’s fears for an ulterior motive,

Conversely this poster campaign:

1. Refers to a real danger. It seems retarded to even have to say this, but terrorists do plant bombs in London on a pretty regular basis, killing and maiming random, innocent people. It’s weird that none of the comments on this thread so far have countenanced that fact.

2. Is not creating fear out of nothing – fear already exists from the above mentioned reality. In fact the poster may actually make people feel less fearful, in the knowledge something is being done to prevent further bombings.

3. I’m probably completely wasting my time trying to convince anyone on this thread that there may not be an ulterior motive, but just imagine; there may not actually be an ulterior motive! They may actually just be trying really hard to think of possible ways to prevent random innocent people getting blown up. Crazy thought isn’t it?

Yes, fearmongering is bad, but why not “stay calm and carry on” while also using some common sense and taking reasonable precautions. That’s the message I take from the poster.

Londoners have been told to report unaccompanied baggage for decades and no-one ever called that fascist fearmongering. As bombs being left all over the place in sports bags was a pretty regular occurence, it always seemed like a fairly sensible idea, and it has been effective in preventing people getting killed.

I also actually like the idea of involving the whole community in taking ownership/responsibility for the safety of the community, rather than giving the government and the police all the control and responsibility.

It also seems to me a fairly common sense approach compared to say, invading other countries to supposedly prevent terrorism.

I’m not sure what alternative ideas people on this thread have for preventing terrorist bombings in London. Strangely no-one has mentioned any yet. Let’s hear them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137998 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137998 http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/nnatt/new-normal.gif http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd141/nnatt/new-normal.gif

]]> By: londonphotographers http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-163090 londonphotographers Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-163090 I appreciate the need for caution, but this approach by the police does seem pretty drastic. I am a commercial photographer in London and I would hate to think of anyone having me under suspicion whilst taking pictures across the city. I appreciate the need for caution, but this approach by the police does seem pretty drastic. I am a commercial photographer in London and I would hate to think of anyone having me under suspicion whilst taking pictures across the city.

]]> By: bjacques http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137236 bjacques Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137236 Let's get the <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bjacques/2312112723/">obvious</A> one out of the way... Let’s get the obvious one out of the way…

]]> By: AwesomeRobot http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137237 AwesomeRobot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137237 I'd gladly put my poster up next to/over the originals if I were in London. I’d gladly put my poster up next to/over the originals if I were in London.

]]> By: arkizzle http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137497 arkizzle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137497 God dammit, where's Theresa when you want her.. Can someone please disemvowell this SEXYBLOG shit? I mean there <i>were</i> big titties on the blog, just as promised, but.. God dammit, where’s Theresa when you want her..

Can someone please disemvowell this SEXYBLOG shit?

I mean there were big titties on the blog, just as promised, but..

]]> By: thornae http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137758 thornae Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137758 And another, just for the heck of it: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/24437939@N06/2312900753/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/24437939@N06/2312900753/</a> And another, just for the heck of it:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24437939@N06/2312900753/

]]> By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137759 Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137759 <i>Boring</i> bad nasty links. Boring bad nasty links.

]]> By: mralistair http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137248 mralistair Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137248 I wonder how much it would cost to have one properly installed on the underground if we chip in we should get at least one place... and an article in a few papers. I wonder how much it would cost to have one properly installed on the underground

if we chip in we should get at least one place… and an article in a few papers.

]]> By: Caeddyn http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137763 Caeddyn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137763 Here's my two cents on the concept: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2063/2312906073_85f22db266.jpg?v=0 Enjoy! Here’s my two cents on the concept:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2063/2312906073_85f22db266.jpg?v=0

Enjoy!

]]> By: apw217 http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137508 apw217 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137508 an american version. including bush rhetoric and the new york see something, say something campaign. on going "investigation", so if you make something, send something. http://web.media.mit.edu/~alyssa/seesomething/saysomething.html an american version. including bush rhetoric and the new york see something, say something campaign. on going “investigation”, so if you make something, send something.

http://web.media.mit.edu/~alyssa/seesomething/saysomething.html

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137513 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137513 <i>keep calm and carry on</i> You knew what it was anyway, without even clicking the link, didn't you? Is there a version that says "Have a drink and carry on"? Oh. Bucket!!!! I'm so easily amused. keep calm and carry on

You knew what it was anyway, without even clicking the link, didn’t you? Is there a version that says “Have a drink and carry on”?

Oh. Bucket!!!! I’m so easily amused.

]]> By: bolamig http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-139305 bolamig Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-139305 I just found this real poster at the San Francisco Airport BART station. In a city like San Francisco unusual people are the rule not the exception. http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj266/polamit/bdetectsmall.jpg I just found this real poster at the San Francisco Airport BART station. In a city like San Francisco unusual people are the rule not the exception.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj266/polamit/bdetectsmall.jpg

]]> By: noen http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137261 noen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137261 I like this, it's positive rather than just more internet hand wringing. If you pasted one of these over the original I bet they wouldn't notice for quite some time. If caught you would of course be hustled off to Room 101 pretty quick. I like this, it’s positive rather than just more internet hand wringing. If you pasted one of these over the original I bet they wouldn’t notice for quite some time. If caught you would of course be hustled off to Room 101 pretty quick.

]]> By: jacob_ewing http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137773 jacob_ewing Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137773 Well, I must add my own two bits as well (or 495,480 bits, depending on just what's meant): http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4260/urinalscw2.png Well, I must add my own two bits as well (or 495,480 bits, depending on just what’s meant):

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4260/urinalscw2.png

]]> By: AwesomeRobot http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137262 AwesomeRobot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137262 @MRAILSTAIR a good thought, but I'm nearly 100% sure it wouldn't get approved for posting. @MRAILSTAIR

a good thought, but I’m nearly 100% sure it wouldn’t get approved for posting.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137775 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137775 Oh please! Don't stop! I've got more laughs from these posters today than in a month! Bravo Everybody! Oh please! Don’t stop! I’ve got more laughs from these posters today than in a month! Bravo Everybody!

]]> By: marios http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137780 marios Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137780 Here's my take http://www.flickr.com/photos/vorian/2313757074/ Here’s my take

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vorian/2313757074/

]]> By: ROSSINDETROIT http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137527 ROSSINDETROIT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137527 For the record, I'm against the government sowing fear and paranoia. It looks like a blatant attempt to control a populace through implied threats. But as a practical matter, does this even ever work? Do citizen tips - thousands of them - ever result in police breakthroughs that couldn't have been accomplished by officers freed from the burden of running down tens of thousands of citizen tips? A program like this has as its most likely result that the time and effort of highly trained crime prevention professionals will be pointlessly wasted on dead ends. I can just see a cop with his head buried in a haystack of nonsense looking for the needle of truth while terrorists set fire to the rest of teh farm. For the record, I’m against the government sowing fear and paranoia. It looks like a blatant attempt to control a populace through implied threats.
But as a practical matter, does this even ever work? Do citizen tips – thousands of them – ever result in police breakthroughs that couldn’t have been accomplished by officers freed from the burden of running down tens of thousands of citizen tips? A program like this has as its most likely result that the time and effort of highly trained crime prevention professionals will be pointlessly wasted on dead ends. I can just see a cop with his head buried in a haystack of nonsense looking for the needle of truth while terrorists set fire to the rest of teh farm.

]]> By: Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137274 Beschizza Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137274 Thank you for posting it, Cory! "These are clever, but sort of pointless if they aren't pasted up in the same public spaces as the actual police posters." Here is a high-quality PDF of my one ("Fearmongering") at A4 size: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2221990/Fearmongering It's not CMYK, but that can be arranged. Thank you for posting it, Cory!

“These are clever, but sort of pointless if they aren’t pasted up in the same public spaces as the actual police posters.”

Here is a high-quality PDF of my one (“Fearmongering”) at A4 size:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2221990/Fearmongering

It’s not CMYK, but that can be arranged.

]]> By: DCer http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137535 DCer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137535 Wow, LOLCats is really over now, isn't it. Wow, LOLCats is really over now, isn’t it.

]]> By: GAPS http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-212545 GAPS Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-212545 If all that CCTV footage is freely available, then couldn’t citizens interested in partaking of terrorism just use that, rather than taking their own photos? It would give you a better idea of what the camera can see, after all. If all that CCTV footage is freely available, then couldn’t citizens interested in partaking of terrorism just use that, rather than taking their own photos? It would give you a better idea of what the camera can see, after all.

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137540 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137540 You know what this country needs? Hiphop LOLcats! You know what this country needs? Hiphop LOLcats!

]]> By: GAPS http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-212551 GAPS Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-212551 Woah! I was a bit late to this party! So, anybody seen any parodies in the wild yet? Flickr doesn’t turn up anything quickly. Woah!
I was a bit late to this party!

So, anybody seen any parodies in the wild yet?
Flickr doesn’t turn up anything quickly.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-139598 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-139598 Here's my 2 baht worth: http://www.zooomr.com/photos/thedod/4438652/ Here’s my 2 baht worth:
http://www.zooomr.com/photos/thedod/4438652/

]]> By: nalsa http://boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html#comment-137295 nalsa Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-137295 Well, why not. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nalsa/2312178629/ Well, why not.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nalsa/2312178629/

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