Comments on: Society of Automotive Engineers kills DRM on its journal following MIT boycott http://boingboing.net/2008/03/09/society-of-automotiv.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Jeff http://boingboing.net/2008/03/09/society-of-automotiv.html#comment-140099 Jeff Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-140099 Promethean points out the MIT uses DRM. How about Stanford? And if this IP data from SAE finds its way out onto the web, will anyone be hurt by this? Will the data allow someone to copy products or technology without paying for it? Promethean points out the MIT uses DRM. How about Stanford? And if this IP data from SAE finds its way out onto the web, will anyone be hurt by this? Will the data allow someone to copy products or technology without paying for it?

]]> By: Scuba SM http://boingboing.net/2008/03/09/society-of-automotiv.html#comment-140131 Scuba SM Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-140131 Jeff, I don't believe that the data from SAE would allow anybody to copy products or technology directly, without significant engineering work themselves. From the SAE articles that I've read, most of them seem to be about how a person/company solved a particular technical problem in a unique way. It either provides a basic understanding of the mechanism, and what makes it special, or it provides an explanation of the new problem solving technique used. One of the purposes of groups and publications like SAE is to allow professionals in the same field to compare notes so that everyone can solve problems more efficiently with more elegant solutions and generally advance the state of the art. It's more like a bunch of college students working on homework problems together, as opposed to the solutions manual. Everyone still has to do their own work, but tips and tricks may be traded among students. Jeff,

I don’t believe that the data from SAE would allow anybody to copy products or technology directly, without significant engineering work themselves. From the SAE articles that I’ve read, most of them seem to be about how a person/company solved a particular technical problem in a unique way. It either provides a basic understanding of the mechanism, and what makes it special, or it provides an explanation of the new problem solving technique used. One of the purposes of groups and publications like SAE is to allow professionals in the same field to compare notes so that everyone can solve problems more efficiently with more elegant solutions and generally advance the state of the art. It’s more like a bunch of college students working on homework problems together, as opposed to the solutions manual. Everyone still has to do their own work, but tips and tricks may be traded among students.

]]> By: ckd http://boingboing.net/2008/03/09/society-of-automotiv.html#comment-140138 ckd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-140138 Promethean (#1): it looks like CogNet is done by MIT Press, not the MIT Libraries. As in many large institutions, different groups may have different policies, procedures, and/or mindsets. Promethean (#1): it looks like CogNet is done by MIT Press, not the MIT Libraries. As in many large institutions, different groups may have different policies, procedures, and/or mindsets.

]]> By: promethean http://boingboing.net/2008/03/09/society-of-automotiv.html#comment-139922 promethean Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-139922 I find this slightly hypocritical of MIT Libraries (Though perhaps not of the individual professors who initiated the complaint) since at least one of MIT's own database of articles and books, the MIT Cognet system, uses DRM itself. The PDFs obtained through this system are locked for printing or copy/paste. This of course negates much of the benefit of digitizing the content in the first place. I find this slightly hypocritical of MIT Libraries (Though perhaps not of the individual professors who initiated the complaint) since at least one of MIT’s own database of articles and books, the MIT Cognet system, uses DRM itself. The PDFs obtained through this system are locked for printing or copy/paste. This of course negates much of the benefit of digitizing the content in the first place.

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/03/09/society-of-automotiv.html#comment-139928 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-139928 Well, sometimes you don't learn to stop hurting people until you get hurt yourself. Hopefully they'll internalize this lesson. Well, sometimes you don’t learn to stop hurting people until you get hurt yourself. Hopefully they’ll internalize this lesson.

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