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		<title>By: scottfree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164614</link>
		<dc:creator>scottfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to think of what an unscrupulous person would do with the information on this thread...

But quite apart from not being able to stop locals stealing vegetables from the fields at night, the farm I worked at last summer in Massachusetts had a 24 hour stand run on the honour system.  Shortly before I arrived it was discovered that someone was stealing the money from the jar, and the man who owned the farm responded by installing the fakest looking fake CCTV camera I have ever seen.  It had a working red light on it, at least.  I still believe it was a decoy, and the real camera was inside a hallowed out watermelon or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to think of what an unscrupulous person would do with the information on this thread&#8230;</p>
<p>But quite apart from not being able to stop locals stealing vegetables from the fields at night, the farm I worked at last summer in Massachusetts had a 24 hour stand run on the honour system.  Shortly before I arrived it was discovered that someone was stealing the money from the jar, and the man who owned the farm responded by installing the fakest looking fake CCTV camera I have ever seen.  It had a working red light on it, at least.  I still believe it was a decoy, and the real camera was inside a hallowed out watermelon or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164878</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another counter-example. At the Walgreen&#039;s near where I work, you can&#039;t even give the woman the 50 cents for the Tribune and then leave because she has to ring it up and give you a receipt. At least at the little news stands, you can drop the money and grab a paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another counter-example. At the Walgreen&#8217;s near where I work, you can&#8217;t even give the woman the 50 cents for the Tribune and then leave because she has to ring it up and give you a receipt. At least at the little news stands, you can drop the money and grab a paper.</p>
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		<title>By: sarahdavies</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164632</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahdavies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a whole cafe on the honor system in a suburb of Seattle called Kirkland.  It&#039;s called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.terrabite.org/&quot;&gt;Terra Bite&lt;/a&gt;.  You can paypal them your coffee money each week.  The system is anonymous, so they don&#039;t keep track of who pays what, and their finances are up on a chalk board in the cafe.  They also have an xbox so you can chase pinatas while sipping your mocha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a whole cafe on the honor system in a suburb of Seattle called Kirkland.  It&#8217;s called <a href="http://www.terrabite.org/">Terra Bite</a>.  You can paypal them your coffee money each week.  The system is anonymous, so they don&#8217;t keep track of who pays what, and their finances are up on a chalk board in the cafe.  They also have an xbox so you can chase pinatas while sipping your mocha!</p>
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		<title>By: TypoBoy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-169243</link>
		<dc:creator>TypoBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think the rail systems really count as &quot;honor systems&quot;. The Portland light rail uses a similar system or at least did some years ago. They don&#039;t check for tickets/passes every trip, but they spot check - and anyone caught cheating gets tossed off and pays a really hefty fine. The fine is both a deterrent and a source of revenue to make up for uncaught cheaters. I&#039;m guessing they come out ahead, especially when you count labor savings in spot checking rather than checking every ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think the rail systems really count as &#8220;honor systems&#8221;. The Portland light rail uses a similar system or at least did some years ago. They don&#8217;t check for tickets/passes every trip, but they spot check &#8211; and anyone caught cheating gets tossed off and pays a really hefty fine. The fine is both a deterrent and a source of revenue to make up for uncaught cheaters. I&#8217;m guessing they come out ahead, especially when you count labor savings in spot checking rather than checking every ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: ploni</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164892</link>
		<dc:creator>ploni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pop&#039;s Fruits &amp; Vegetables in Waukon, Iowa leaves its assortment of large pumpkins ($3 each) outside all night in the fall for anyone who wants to buy. Not only this but each morning, suprisingly, the pumpkins are found where they were left . . . in one piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pop&#8217;s Fruits &#038; Vegetables in Waukon, Iowa leaves its assortment of large pumpkins ($3 each) outside all night in the fall for anyone who wants to buy. Not only this but each morning, suprisingly, the pumpkins are found where they were left . . . in one piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-169246</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apparently, in Vancouver, Canada (home of the police taser murder)they fry you for fare evasion on their honor system train line</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently, in Vancouver, Canada (home of the police taser murder)they fry you for fare evasion on their honor system train line</p>
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		<title>By: drivenbyboredom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164896</link>
		<dc:creator>drivenbyboredom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most of the bodegas in my neighboor hood in brooklyn don&#039;t look the other way when people put money on the counter and walk out with something.  i do it all the time actually... much quicker than waiting in line.

also @COPPERPIXIE in Prague you can pay a fee and get a license to collect fines for getting on the trains and trollys without paying.  all those people are sort of freelance meter maids and they all take bribes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most of the bodegas in my neighboor hood in brooklyn don&#8217;t look the other way when people put money on the counter and walk out with something.  i do it all the time actually&#8230; much quicker than waiting in line.</p>
<p>also @COPPERPIXIE in Prague you can pay a fee and get a license to collect fines for getting on the trains and trollys without paying.  all those people are sort of freelance meter maids and they all take bribes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jjasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before moving from San Francisco, I set out books on the sidewalk with a sign &quot;put what you think is a fair price through the mail slot&quot; and made a good amount of money for my efforts.  One person even knocked on the door and negotiated with me for some old Chaosium Call Of Cthulhu games I had sitting out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before moving from San Francisco, I set out books on the sidewalk with a sign &#8220;put what you think is a fair price through the mail slot&#8221; and made a good amount of money for my efforts.  One person even knocked on the door and negotiated with me for some old Chaosium Call Of Cthulhu games I had sitting out.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164386</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my neighborhood, I&#039;m pretty sure all the papers would be gone and no money paid.

If you needed a paper, you could then buy it from the &quot;homeless&quot; guy on the corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my neighborhood, I&#8217;m pretty sure all the papers would be gone and no money paid.</p>
<p>If you needed a paper, you could then buy it from the &#8220;homeless&#8221; guy on the corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Blueart</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164899</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Blueart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this counts as an honor &quot;system&quot; in the sense that  you are using it; 

I frequently do artwork that requires 23K gold leaf. I live in the city and this place is in the suburbs.  It&#039;s a father and son business. I phone in my order, sometimes as much as a few hundred bucks at a time.  They rush my gold off within a day and the package contains a bill.  I&#039;ve not always paid right away and they&#039;ve never complained.  They just absolutely trust that I&#039;ll pay sooner or later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this counts as an honor &#8220;system&#8221; in the sense that  you are using it; </p>
<p>I frequently do artwork that requires 23K gold leaf. I live in the city and this place is in the suburbs.  It&#8217;s a father and son business. I phone in my order, sometimes as much as a few hundred bucks at a time.  They rush my gold off within a day and the package contains a bill.  I&#8217;ve not always paid right away and they&#8217;ve never complained.  They just absolutely trust that I&#8217;ll pay sooner or later.</p>
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		<title>By: Alkemist69</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/04/14/photo-of-honor-syste.html#comment-164905</link>
		<dc:creator>Alkemist69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Around Heidelberg, in Germany, it is common for local farmers to leave a table of produce by their gate with a coin tray and a sign with prices. There are cycleways throughout the area ... and it was always rather nice to cycle about and pick up some local fruit and veg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Around Heidelberg, in Germany, it is common for local farmers to leave a table of produce by their gate with a coin tray and a sign with prices. There are cycleways throughout the area &#8230; and it was always rather nice to cycle about and pick up some local fruit and veg.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I lived in Switzerland a few years back, it was so rare to see anyone checking municipal bus tickets that it was essentially the honor system. Seems like most people happily bought tickets. 

(Of course, I have no idea what the penalty for getting caught without a ticket is, so that may be part of it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I lived in Switzerland a few years back, it was so rare to see anyone checking municipal bus tickets that it was essentially the honor system. Seems like most people happily bought tickets. </p>
<p>(Of course, I have no idea what the penalty for getting caught without a ticket is, so that may be part of it.)</p>
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		<title>By: allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Centro, a corner cafe across from San Francisco&#039;s South Park, coffee drinkers can bypass long lines by pouring their own cup and honor systemming their $1.50 into a cup by the register. I&#039;m not a coffee drinker, but from what I&#039;ve seen while waiting in line for five minutes for my tuna sandwich, the system seems to work fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Centro, a corner cafe across from San Francisco&#8217;s South Park, coffee drinkers can bypass long lines by pouring their own cup and honor systemming their $1.50 into a cup by the register. I&#8217;m not a coffee drinker, but from what I&#8217;ve seen while waiting in line for five minutes for my tuna sandwich, the system seems to work fine.</p>
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		<title>By: copperpixie</title>
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		<dc:creator>copperpixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Prague, the public transportation works on mostly the honor system.  You purchase and stamp a ticket, then carry it around with you.  Every so often someone might ask to see it and if you don&#039;t have one, you pay a fine.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Prague, the public transportation works on mostly the honor system.  You purchase and stamp a ticket, then carry it around with you.  Every so often someone might ask to see it and if you don&#8217;t have one, you pay a fine.  </p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Cretaceous Period it was the norm for newspapers to be sold through &quot;honour boxes&quot;. The coins did fall in a locked container but the newspapers were all stacked in an open ended box. Bus fare was about seven cents if memory serves.No one wore an onion on their belts though,probably because of the Famine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Cretaceous Period it was the norm for newspapers to be sold through &#8220;honour boxes&#8221;. The coins did fall in a locked container but the newspapers were all stacked in an open ended box. Bus fare was about seven cents if memory serves.No one wore an onion on their belts though,probably because of the Famine.</p>
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		<title>By: fnc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember visiting fields covered with berry bushes in my youth in the middle of nowhere with a box near the gate for payment.  You paid by the bushel instead of the pound though.  Alton Brown and his crew bought asparagus from a midwest field on the honor system on the second season of Feasting On Asphalt.  It was nice to see this kind of thing still exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember visiting fields covered with berry bushes in my youth in the middle of nowhere with a box near the gate for payment.  You paid by the bushel instead of the pound though.  Alton Brown and his crew bought asparagus from a midwest field on the honor system on the second season of Feasting On Asphalt.  It was nice to see this kind of thing still exists.</p>
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		<title>By: sweep</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Public transport in Europe.

It&#039;s not really an honour system, commuters are making a trade off between how much it costs to buy a ticket, and the cost of a fine/likelihood of being caught if they don&#039;t.

In most of the ex Soviet states the cost of getting on a tram or metro is so reasonable it&#039;s not really worth the risk, whereas in Scandinavia public transport costs are really, really high, so it&#039;s possibly more worth the risk.

The annoying thing is that in the UK public transport is shockingly inadequate, shockingly expensive, and if i get on a train i have to produce my ticket a minimum of 3 times before i complete a journey. 

Bah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Public transport in Europe.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really an honour system, commuters are making a trade off between how much it costs to buy a ticket, and the cost of a fine/likelihood of being caught if they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>In most of the ex Soviet states the cost of getting on a tram or metro is so reasonable it&#8217;s not really worth the risk, whereas in Scandinavia public transport costs are really, really high, so it&#8217;s possibly more worth the risk.</p>
<p>The annoying thing is that in the UK public transport is shockingly inadequate, shockingly expensive, and if i get on a train i have to produce my ticket a minimum of 3 times before i complete a journey. </p>
<p>Bah!</p>
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		<title>By: awegmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>awegmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who practices the World&#039;s Oldest Body Hacks for a living, I&#039;d submit The Community Acupuncture Network (www.communityacupuncturenetwork.org) as an excellent example of an organization who teaches, promotes and advocates for a sliding-scale/honor-system style business model.

At &#039;community acupuncture&#039; clinics, people are very simply asked to pay what they can afford (w/o income verification of any kind) and people do just that. 

The sliding scale at CA clinics runs from $15-40/visit - where market rates for acupuncture across the US average ~ $75/visit at last check.

There are about 50 such full-time clinics (independently owned) across the US.

(Full disclosure: I am a community acupuncturist (in Manchester, NH) and a CAN board member)





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who practices the World&#8217;s Oldest Body Hacks for a living, I&#8217;d submit The Community Acupuncture Network (www.communityacupuncturenetwork.org) as an excellent example of an organization who teaches, promotes and advocates for a sliding-scale/honor-system style business model.</p>
<p>At &#8216;community acupuncture&#8217; clinics, people are very simply asked to pay what they can afford (w/o income verification of any kind) and people do just that. </p>
<p>The sliding scale at CA clinics runs from $15-40/visit &#8211; where market rates for acupuncture across the US average ~ $75/visit at last check.</p>
<p>There are about 50 such full-time clinics (independently owned) across the US.</p>
<p>(Full disclosure: I am a community acupuncturist (in Manchester, NH) and a CAN board member)</p>
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		<title>By: tinfoilsoldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinfoilsoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the corner of my street a farmer has a veggie stand in the fall that uses an honor system.

We always ride out bikes there to get corn or peppers or squash or whatever for dinner.

He just has a little lock box with a slot to slide money into.

My parents buy their eggs from a farmer near their home.  Pull up to the farm house, and inside the farmer&#039;s garage is a fridge with cartons of eggs in it.  Go right inside the garage door, put money in the jar, return some egg cartons if you have them, and get a fresh dozen from the fridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the corner of my street a farmer has a veggie stand in the fall that uses an honor system.</p>
<p>We always ride out bikes there to get corn or peppers or squash or whatever for dinner.</p>
<p>He just has a little lock box with a slot to slide money into.</p>
<p>My parents buy their eggs from a farmer near their home.  Pull up to the farm house, and inside the farmer&#8217;s garage is a fridge with cartons of eggs in it.  Go right inside the garage door, put money in the jar, return some egg cartons if you have them, and get a fresh dozen from the fridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scottfree, I think the general result from the honor system studies is that people don&#039;t tend to steal something of little value (bagels, veggies) - perhaps the social cost of getting caught (for sociopaths) and the warm-fuzzy feeling of being trusted (for non-sociopaths) outweighs the small benefit of stealing some corn. But some people WILL steal actual money, if they can. Honor systems are more successful with a locked cash box with just a slot to stick money in, rather than an open cash jar.

Most people are cooperators, but you gotta watch out for that 1% to 3%, by not giving them a chance to do major damage to the system.

Also now I want to carry around a watermelon with a camera hidden inside it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottfree, I think the general result from the honor system studies is that people don&#8217;t tend to steal something of little value (bagels, veggies) &#8211; perhaps the social cost of getting caught (for sociopaths) and the warm-fuzzy feeling of being trusted (for non-sociopaths) outweighs the small benefit of stealing some corn. But some people WILL steal actual money, if they can. Honor systems are more successful with a locked cash box with just a slot to stick money in, rather than an open cash jar.</p>
<p>Most people are cooperators, but you gotta watch out for that 1% to 3%, by not giving them a chance to do major damage to the system.</p>
<p>Also now I want to carry around a watermelon with a camera hidden inside it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Savory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Savory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My home is about a mile from the &quot;Old North Bridge&quot; in Concord, MA. (Yep, &quot;The shot heard round the world&quot;, etc. etc.)

There are no less than six roadside &quot;honor system&quot; stands within a five-minute drive, offering various things like home-grown produce, home-farmed honey, and cut firewood.

The produce stands generally start showing-up every year in the late summer/early fall as people&#039;s gardens start to harvest, and stay open so long as they&#039;ve got produce left to sell.

Considering these same families run these things year-after-year, and always just run them by leaving their &quot;merchandise&quot; and cash box unattended next to the road, I&#039;d have to say such honor payment systems work quite well.

Needless to say, this is a suburban/semi-rural setting, so YMMV elsewhere.</description>
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<p>There are no less than six roadside &#8220;honor system&#8221; stands within a five-minute drive, offering various things like home-grown produce, home-farmed honey, and cut firewood.</p>
<p>The produce stands generally start showing-up every year in the late summer/early fall as people&#8217;s gardens start to harvest, and stay open so long as they&#8217;ve got produce left to sell.</p>
<p>Considering these same families run these things year-after-year, and always just run them by leaving their &#8220;merchandise&#8221; and cash box unattended next to the road, I&#8217;d have to say such honor payment systems work quite well.</p>
<p>Needless to say, this is a suburban/semi-rural setting, so YMMV elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Yep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yep</dc:creator>
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		<description>One of my favorite bars ever - Ivans, an honor system bar in a shack on the beach on Jost Van Dyke , BVIs.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71V9BjXhgv4
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorite bars ever &#8211; Ivans, an honor system bar in a shack on the beach on Jost Van Dyke , BVIs.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71V9BjXhgv4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71V9BjXhgv4</a></p>
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		<title>By: coldspell</title>
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		<description>Presumably they are not losing money on this, otherwise they would stop.</description>
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		<title>By: whoopeddog</title>
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		<description>Several years ago we bought a large wooden bear carved with a chainsaw, for $50, down in western North Carolina. A lady had a whole yardful with various price tags, and an honor system box. We left her a check and took the bear, which sits in our driveway. There were several such businesses along the road in that area--some selling welded metal yard art, wooden signs, nicknacks, or jams, honey, and jellies. We found the whole thing to be charming and life affirming. How wonderful to be trusted and to show oneself to be trustworthy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several years ago we bought a large wooden bear carved with a chainsaw, for $50, down in western North Carolina. A lady had a whole yardful with various price tags, and an honor system box. We left her a check and took the bear, which sits in our driveway. There were several such businesses along the road in that area&#8211;some selling welded metal yard art, wooden signs, nicknacks, or jams, honey, and jellies. We found the whole thing to be charming and life affirming. How wonderful to be trusted and to show oneself to be trustworthy!</p>
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		<title>By: Slizzered</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years back, I went to &quot;Booked Up&quot;, a bookstore owned by author Larry McMurtry (he often ran the register, himself) a damned impressive place in his hometown of Archer City, TX. It contains 400,000 books, so many that it takes up four buildings, all lining the Archer City courthouse square. The office is in the main building, Booked Up No. 1, which was once a Ford dealership. Purchases of books stored in other buildings are made through the honor system; customers walk them across the street or down the block to pay for them. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back, I went to &#8220;Booked Up&#8221;, a bookstore owned by author Larry McMurtry (he often ran the register, himself) a damned impressive place in his hometown of Archer City, TX. It contains 400,000 books, so many that it takes up four buildings, all lining the Archer City courthouse square. The office is in the main building, Booked Up No. 1, which was once a Ford dealership. Purchases of books stored in other buildings are made through the honor system; customers walk them across the street or down the block to pay for them. </p>
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		<title>By: obdan</title>
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		<description>the coffee bus on Grateful Dead tour in the eighties and early nineties was entirely honor system.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the coffee bus on Grateful Dead tour in the eighties and early nineties was entirely honor system.</p>
<p>it was fun </p>
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		<title>By: gornzilla</title>
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		<description>Old Soul coffee in Sacramento used to use only the honor system.  Just a jar of money on the counter and you made your own change.  Last time I was there they had a cash register.  I guess it was too hard to figure out tips.

So anyway, I say, &quot;Hey waitress, this coffee tastes like mud&quot;.  She says, &quot;It ought to, it was ground just this morning.&quot;

Ouch. That hurt to write.</description>
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<p>So anyway, I say, &#8220;Hey waitress, this coffee tastes like mud&#8221;.  She says, &#8220;It ought to, it was ground just this morning.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ouch. That hurt to write.</p>
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		<title>By: pauldrye</title>
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		<description>The regional transit trains in the Toronto area are on an honour system, but unlike #3 above they seem to check pretty often. Inspectors come into the cars maybe one trip in twenty that I take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The regional transit trains in the Toronto area are on an honour system, but unlike #3 above they seem to check pretty often. Inspectors come into the cars maybe one trip in twenty that I take.</p>
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		<title>By: BenDoidic</title>
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		<description>Bart&#039;s Books (www.bartsbooksojai.com), also in Ojai, has bookshelves on the outside of their building filled with used books for sale. You take the book you want, and then throw your money over the wall to pay for it.

Besides this unique selling method, the rest of Bart&#039;s Books is worth a  visit. It&#039;s a great little used book store, and they always seem to have an author or poet visiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bart&#8217;s Books (www.bartsbooksojai.com), also in Ojai, has bookshelves on the outside of their building filled with used books for sale. You take the book you want, and then throw your money over the wall to pay for it.</p>
<p>Besides this unique selling method, the rest of Bart&#8217;s Books is worth a  visit. It&#8217;s a great little used book store, and they always seem to have an author or poet visiting.</p>
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		<title>By: steamed punk</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.millersbar.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Miller&#039;s Bar&lt;/a&gt; in Dearborn Michigan, has some of the best hamburgers around ( in this commenters&#039;s opinion*).  During the afternoon lunch rush the line frequently flows out the door.

In the midst of the this madness, they still employ an honors system to pay for food orders.  No written bills are given, you are on your honor to accurately relay your order to the cashier.

* while researching this comment I found that some person named, &quot;Oprah&quot; also happens to think this is one of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200602/tows_past_20060228_c.jhtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;top 20 burgers in the US&lt;/a&gt;, go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.millersbar.com/" rel="nofollow">Miller&#8217;s Bar</a> in Dearborn Michigan, has some of the best hamburgers around ( in this commenters&#8217;s opinion*).  During the afternoon lunch rush the line frequently flows out the door.</p>
<p>In the midst of the this madness, they still employ an honors system to pay for food orders.  No written bills are given, you are on your honor to accurately relay your order to the cashier.</p>
<p>* while researching this comment I found that some person named, &#8220;Oprah&#8221; also happens to think this is one of the <a href="http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200602/tows_past_20060228_c.jhtml" rel="nofollow">top 20 burgers in the US</a>, go figure.</p>
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