Comments on: Getting baked before shooting AKs at the Taliban: a bad idea. http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 06:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Nelson.C http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174340 Nelson.C Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174340 Wait, smoking grass improves your blog posting? Wait, smoking grass improves your blog posting?

]]> By: Tim Howland http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174343 Tim Howland Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174343 You do know that the derivation of assassin is "hashishm", right? They used to get wasted on hashish and run around killing people: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin">Wiki</a> You do know that the derivation of assassin is “hashishm”, right? They used to get wasted on hashish and run around killing people: Wiki

]]> By: QSD http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174599 QSD Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174599 #23: "Chip pan fires are responsible for 25% of fire related injury in the UK" http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/8/4/328 I'm certainly not saying that these people were all stoned... just that being stoned (I <i>used to be</i> a heavy pot smoker) can make it so that you're not paying very close attention and you tend to do stupid things. Of course it's a matter of context, as you said. And of course it's much more stupid to get stoned when in combat. In general people who do stupid things (like spend their afternoons arguing on boingboing... like me), do them more frequently when stoned. Before all the anti-QSD posters come out of the woods (i.e., Takuan) -- don't sweat it. I'm not that attached to my opinion on this one. After all, I used to get baked at every available moment. #23:

“Chip pan fires are responsible for 25% of fire related injury in the UK”

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/8/4/328

I’m certainly not saying that these people were all stoned… just that being stoned (I used to be a heavy pot smoker) can make it so that you’re not paying very close attention and you tend to do stupid things.

Of course it’s a matter of context, as you said. And of course it’s much more stupid to get stoned when in combat.

In general people who do stupid things (like spend their afternoons arguing on boingboing… like me), do them more frequently when stoned.

Before all the anti-QSD posters come out of the woods (i.e., Takuan) — don’t sweat it. I’m not that attached to my opinion on this one. After all, I used to get baked at every available moment.

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174344 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174344 When you say 'a bad idea', do you mean a phenomenological 'bad' or an epistemological 'bad'? When you say ‘a bad idea’, do you mean a phenomenological ‘bad’ or an epistemological ‘bad’?

]]> By: Registrado http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174345 Registrado Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174345 Couldn't hoit... As long as you're killing fellow humans, why <i>not</i> be doped up? You can argue the point of justification (i.e. to prevent the enemy from killing you or yours) and I'll even agree, but it comes down to killing. Better to be doped to sub-human levels (where it's somewhat excusable) rather than fully cognizant of what you're doing (where you're a murderer). Couldn’t hoit… As long as you’re killing fellow humans, why not be doped up? You can argue the point of justification (i.e. to prevent the enemy from killing you or yours) and I’ll even agree, but it comes down to killing. Better to be doped to sub-human levels (where it’s somewhat excusable) rather than fully cognizant of what you’re doing (where you’re a murderer).

]]> By: glace neuf http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174347 glace neuf Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174347 ever fought the taliban..... on weed? ever fought the taliban….. on weed?

]]> By: minamisan http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174605 minamisan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174605 the weed certainly isn't helping me write a witty response to this post... in fact, i've already forgotten what it was about. the weed certainly isn’t helping me write a witty response to this post… in fact, i’ve already forgotten what it was about.

]]> By: begbie http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174351 begbie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174351 I don't think a bullet struck the magazine. It's lame when they bend the facts to present a preconceived take on marijuana use. I mean, what do Afghan soldiers know about warfare? (clearly not as much as the narrator) Jackass. I don’t think a bullet struck the magazine.
It’s lame when they bend the facts to present a preconceived take on marijuana use.

I mean, what do Afghan soldiers know about warfare?
(clearly not as much as the narrator)

Jackass.

]]> By: Beanolini http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174352 Beanolini Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174352 Of course, the drug of choice for American forces is <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/01/17/1042520778665.html" rel="nofollow">pharmaceutical speed</a>. Of course, the drug of choice for American forces is pharmaceutical speed.

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174608 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174608 <i>anti-QSD posters</i> The subways are plastered with them. anti-QSD posters

The subways are plastered with them.

]]> By: sonny p fontaine http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174353 sonny p fontaine Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174353 I can quit if I want to. It's just that it gives me the confidence to climb all those tower stairs. I can quit if I want to. It’s just that it gives me the confidence to climb all those tower stairs.

]]> By: mujadaddy http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174355 mujadaddy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174355 <i> #6 posted by glace neuf , April 25, 2008 12:36 PM</i> <i>ever fought the taliban..... on weed?</i> Beautiful. #6 posted by glace neuf , April 25, 2008 12:36 PM

ever fought the taliban….. on weed?

Beautiful.

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174357 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174357 Walking out into the line of fire might have as much to do with <i>Inshallah</i> as it does with being medicated. Walking out into the line of fire might have as much to do with Inshallah as it does with being medicated.

]]> By: se7a7n7 http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174360 se7a7n7 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174360 I know a couple of bong hits helps me enjoy Battlestar Galactica. I know a couple of bong hits helps me enjoy Battlestar Galactica.

]]> By: alejandrodelloco http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174620 alejandrodelloco Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174620 Hash not bombs, people. Hash not bombs, people.

]]> By: SaulTSack http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174370 SaulTSack Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174370 Clearly, the round (if it was in fact a bullet that caused it) didn't hit the magazine. You can still see the magazine safely in the weapon @ 00:46. In fact, I'd suspect that it was more likely a crappy round in the afghans own rifle that caused an over pressure upon firing, making the top cover of the AK's action blast off from the escaping gas. Clearly, the round (if it was in fact a bullet that caused it) didn’t hit the magazine. You can still see the magazine safely in the weapon @ 00:46. In fact, I’d suspect that it was more likely a crappy round in the afghans own rifle that caused an over pressure upon firing, making the top cover of the AK’s action blast off from the escaping gas.

]]> By: Ernunnos http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174626 Ernunnos Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174626 #16 It's not the gas tube, it's the receiver cover. On an AK it's just a thin piece of metal held on by spring pressure, and a bullet strike could easily knock it off with that ringing sound. Gas tubes on the AK are well-vented and large diameter, fed by a small port in the barrel. To blow one up, you'd need such high pressures that the barrel itself would blow first, or you'd have case separation at the chamber. In either event, there'd be a <i>lot</i> of smoke and the burning and the "Hey, hey, hey it hurts me." #16 It’s not the gas tube, it’s the receiver cover. On an AK it’s just a thin piece of metal held on by spring pressure, and a bullet strike could easily knock it off with that ringing sound.

Gas tubes on the AK are well-vented and large diameter, fed by a small port in the barrel. To blow one up, you’d need such high pressures that the barrel itself would blow first, or you’d have case separation at the chamber. In either event, there’d be a lot of smoke and the burning and the “Hey, hey, hey it hurts me.”

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174629 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174629 which one? http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Parts.php#trig which one?
http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Parts.php#trig

]]> By: sonny p fontaine http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174630 sonny p fontaine Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174630 Takuan...why bring michael jackson into this? Takuan…why bring michael jackson into this?

]]> By: Scuba SM http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174641 Scuba SM Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174641 #29, The puff of gas/smoke seemed awfully far forward and not in line with the muzzle, right above the sling swivel. The part is clearly metal, you can hear it when it hits the ground. It's longer than the wood handguard/heat shield that covers the top of the gas tube/barrel. Now that you've pointed it out, I do agree with your assessment of the likelihood of a gas tube failure. I'll defer to you, having watched it a couple more times now. (I must have watched that video 25 times today.) #29,

The puff of gas/smoke seemed awfully far forward and not in line with the muzzle, right above the sling swivel. The part is clearly metal, you can hear it when it hits the ground. It’s longer than the wood handguard/heat shield that covers the top of the gas tube/barrel.

Now that you’ve pointed it out, I do agree with your assessment of the likelihood of a gas tube failure. I’ll defer to you, having watched it a couple more times now. (I must have watched that video 25 times today.)

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174397 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174397 looks like Viet Nam 1969.. guess who was toking? (ain't the NVA) looks like Viet Nam 1969.. guess who was toking? (ain’t the NVA)

]]> By: Moon http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174653 Moon Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174653 It worked in Viet Nam, didn't it? :P It worked in Viet Nam, didn’t it?

:P

]]> By: alisong76 http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174658 alisong76 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174658 25: OH MY GOODNESS THE CHIPS! (That might not make any sense to anyone who's not Australian and born prior to 1977...) 25:

OH MY GOODNESS THE CHIPS!

(That might not make any sense to anyone who’s not Australian and born prior to 1977…)

]]> By: curtismayfield http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-175950 curtismayfield Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-175950 <a href="http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/nav/home-bulletin.htm" rel="nofollow">link</a> "According to research by British scientists a moderate amount of cannabis may actually improve driving performance. Subjects under cannabis scored superior than the sober subjects in most of the tasks including reaction time and number of collisions. The director of the laboratory where the studies were conducted said: "The results of our test clearly show that a small or moderate amount of cannabis is actually quite beneficial to someone's driving performance." (Source: Evening News of 24 January 2004) link
“According to research by British scientists a moderate amount of cannabis may actually improve driving performance. Subjects under cannabis scored superior than the sober subjects in most of the tasks including reaction time and number of collisions. The director of the laboratory where the studies were conducted said: “The results of our test clearly show that a small or moderate amount of cannabis is actually quite beneficial to someone’s driving performance.”
(Source: Evening News of 24 January 2004)

]]> By: dissist http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174416 dissist Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174416 One thing's looking likely: incidence of PTSD among the Pashto stoner militias significantly lower than among the occupying forces. One thing’s looking likely: incidence of PTSD among the Pashto stoner militias significantly lower than among the occupying forces.

]]> By: zikman http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174932 zikman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174932 lol, I'm Afghan lol, I’m Afghan

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174935 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174935 got any? got any?

]]> By: Scuba SM http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174432 Scuba SM Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174432 That piece of metal came from a few inches back of the muzzle. Watching the clip a couple times, it looks like the gas tube ruptured when he fired his final round. That's the only thing on top of an AK that would be that long and made of metal. When he's walking back towards the rest of the people, it appears that his AK is missing the gasport and tube assembly, but it's very hard to tell. That piece of metal came from a few inches back of the muzzle. Watching the clip a couple times, it looks like the gas tube ruptured when he fired his final round. That’s the only thing on top of an AK that would be that long and made of metal. When he’s walking back towards the rest of the people, it appears that his AK is missing the gasport and tube assembly, but it’s very hard to tell.

]]> By: minTphresh http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-175208 minTphresh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-175208 it was my understanding that the hashishin used the hash as kind of an incense to get prospective assassins stoned then, after they passed out, take them to a 'paradise' to show them what awaited them upon completion of the deed. they would then be sent out on their mission of death and dismemberment with the promise of 72 virgins waiting in the wings. good times. it was my understanding that the hashishin used the hash as kind of an incense to get prospective assassins stoned then, after they passed out, take them to a ‘paradise’ to show them what awaited them upon completion of the deed. they would then be sent out on their mission of death and dismemberment with the promise of 72 virgins waiting in the wings. good times.

]]> By: mikelotus http://boingboing.net/2008/04/25/getting-baked-before.html#comment-174444 mikelotus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-174444 better to die stoned than straight? better to die stoned than straight?

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