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	<title>Comments on: Hiroyuki Nishimura, bad boy of the Japanese&#160;Internet</title>
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		<title>By: djam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/05/21/hiroyuki-nishimura-b.html#comment-193316</link>
		<dc:creator>djam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The people of japan are lonely and depressed&quot; I think i should move down there, i&#039;d be in good company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people of japan are lonely and depressed&#8221; I think i should move down there, i&#8217;d be in good company!</p>
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		<title>By: Chevan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/05/21/hiroyuki-nishimura-b.html#comment-193685</link>
		<dc:creator>Chevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Nicodou has brought the 2channel style of community to Web video.

And now I&#039;m picturing Youtube overrun by the worst parts of 4chan.

It isn&#039;t pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Nicodou has brought the 2channel style of community to Web video.</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m picturing Youtube overrun by the worst parts of 4chan.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Tenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott!

Amazing story. Thank you so much.</description>
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<p>Amazing story. Thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>By: arkizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>arkizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scottfree:

I&#039;d never heard of TrainMan either, and just read the whole thing in one sitting.. god damn!

Really sucks you in huh?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottfree:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never heard of TrainMan either, and just read the whole thing in one sitting.. god damn!</p>
<p>Really sucks you in huh?</p>
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		<title>By: BSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I like Haruhi as much as the next geek, but if I see one more person dancing to Hare Hare Yukai alone in their poorly-lit room, I&#039;ll cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I like Haruhi as much as the next geek, but if I see one more person dancing to Hare Hare Yukai alone in their poorly-lit room, I&#8217;ll cry.</p>
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		<title>By: UrinalPooper</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/05/21/hiroyuki-nishimura-b.html#comment-192976</link>
		<dc:creator>UrinalPooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Japan is an unhappy culture. The people are lonely and depressed&quot;

This is not necessarily idiosyncratic to Japanese culture, it&#039;s more a statement about the human condition in first-world nations.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Japan is an unhappy culture. The people are lonely and depressed&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not necessarily idiosyncratic to Japanese culture, it&#8217;s more a statement about the human condition in first-world nations.</p>
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		<title>By: magiclightbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>magiclightbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, thanks for that.  I got sucked into the train man story too.  And now i&#039;m going to spoil it for you all.  Can you find one plot element introduced that was irrelevant to the overall arc of the story?  The publishers of the book claim to have contacted the real train man, but i&#039;m not so sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, thanks for that.  I got sucked into the train man story too.  And now i&#8217;m going to spoil it for you all.  Can you find one plot element introduced that was irrelevant to the overall arc of the story?  The publishers of the book claim to have contacted the real train man, but i&#8217;m not so sure.</p>
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		<title>By: aliciainwonderland</title>
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		<dc:creator>aliciainwonderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: URINALPOOPER
Although I agree that this is a problem shared by all humanity. However, Japan can be a really suppressive country. &quot;The nail that sticks out gets hammered&quot; etc etc. So, I imagine they are especially unhappy. 

Don&#039;t forget the recent suicide gas &quot;crisis&quot; that has been going on in the last few months. http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11294805</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: URINALPOOPER<br />
Although I agree that this is a problem shared by all humanity. However, Japan can be a really suppressive country. &#8220;The nail that sticks out gets hammered&#8221; etc etc. So, I imagine they are especially unhappy. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the recent suicide gas &#8220;crisis&#8221; that has been going on in the last few months. <a href="http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11294805" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11294805</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Armbruster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Armbruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#1:

...Yeeeeahhhh...  Sorta.  But I have to say, my friends back home in the US are generally a lot happier than my friends here in Japan.

The Japanese lifestyle really isolates people.  My friends at home get together for BBQs, go on little trips together, do some of the minor holidays together, get to know each others&#039; kids and kind of build an extended family of friends.  Religious people oftentimes have this via their places of worship.  It&#039;s a kind of small-village community that I think people need to feel comfortable, as social primates.  

It really seems in Japan that you have a network like this only during your school days.  I really think this is why so much of TV, etc, takes place in high schools.  For many, it was the last time they really felt alive.  I think the company has traditionally filled this void in modern Japanese culture, but I was watching a documentary show (Gaia no Yoake, probably my favorite show on Japanese TV) recently about the decline in this.  Companies used to have company picnics and family days, etc.  But now it&#039;s just work.

Part of this, I think, is the stupid amount of time people spend commuting.  A 2hr commute is nothing.  There are a few people who work at my university who actually have to take a bullet train every morning to come to work.  It&#039;s preposterous, but the blame lies solely on the people doing it, IMO.  I&#039;ve had this conversation many times.  &quot;It would cost too much to live closer.&quot;  Yeah, it would cost more, but you&#039;d actually have a life.  You could spend that time with friends or family or whatever.  But instead you spend that time crammed on a crowded, sweaty, stinking train with strangers who hate you.  That&#039;s your call, I guess, but don&#039;t complain when you feel &quot;lonely and depressed.&quot;

So to sum up, I really do think Japan is &lt;em&gt;particularly&lt;/em&gt; unhappy, even in comparison to other first-world countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#1:</p>
<p>&#8230;Yeeeeahhhh&#8230;  Sorta.  But I have to say, my friends back home in the US are generally a lot happier than my friends here in Japan.</p>
<p>The Japanese lifestyle really isolates people.  My friends at home get together for BBQs, go on little trips together, do some of the minor holidays together, get to know each others&#8217; kids and kind of build an extended family of friends.  Religious people oftentimes have this via their places of worship.  It&#8217;s a kind of small-village community that I think people need to feel comfortable, as social primates.  </p>
<p>It really seems in Japan that you have a network like this only during your school days.  I really think this is why so much of TV, etc, takes place in high schools.  For many, it was the last time they really felt alive.  I think the company has traditionally filled this void in modern Japanese culture, but I was watching a documentary show (Gaia no Yoake, probably my favorite show on Japanese TV) recently about the decline in this.  Companies used to have company picnics and family days, etc.  But now it&#8217;s just work.</p>
<p>Part of this, I think, is the stupid amount of time people spend commuting.  A 2hr commute is nothing.  There are a few people who work at my university who actually have to take a bullet train every morning to come to work.  It&#8217;s preposterous, but the blame lies solely on the people doing it, IMO.  I&#8217;ve had this conversation many times.  &#8220;It would cost too much to live closer.&#8221;  Yeah, it would cost more, but you&#8217;d actually have a life.  You could spend that time with friends or family or whatever.  But instead you spend that time crammed on a crowded, sweaty, stinking train with strangers who hate you.  That&#8217;s your call, I guess, but don&#8217;t complain when you feel &#8220;lonely and depressed.&#8221;</p>
<p>So to sum up, I really do think Japan is <em>particularly</em> unhappy, even in comparison to other first-world countries.</p>
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		<title>By: UrinalPooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>UrinalPooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 You have a point, however suicides are HIGHLY under-reported in western societies... while this is an expression of cultural differences, it does not change the fact that the real suicide rates are par.  

Sorry to go OT from the beginning, um... if it wasn&#039;t for 2chan there would be no 4chan and if it wasn&#039;t for 4chan there would be no lolcats.  

Back to thread-jacking, we have the concept of &#039;square pegs&#039;.  All societies by their very nature attempt to suppress and repel anything that questions their collective sense of harmony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 You have a point, however suicides are HIGHLY under-reported in western societies&#8230; while this is an expression of cultural differences, it does not change the fact that the real suicide rates are par.  </p>
<p>Sorry to go OT from the beginning, um&#8230; if it wasn&#8217;t for 2chan there would be no 4chan and if it wasn&#8217;t for 4chan there would be no lolcats.  </p>
<p>Back to thread-jacking, we have the concept of &#8216;square pegs&#8217;.  All societies by their very nature attempt to suppress and repel anything that questions their collective sense of harmony.</p>
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		<title>By: scottfree</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone see there was another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-06/mf_usfans&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; on 2chan in Wired today?

What I thought was cool in a sort of sentimental way was the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rinji.tv/densha/&gt;story&lt;/a&gt; of Train Man, which I hadn&#039;t heard before. I mean, talk about a depressing culture.  But it really makes things like that stand out.

Ok, that&#039;s first time using html links in a comment, so here goes nothing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone see there was another <a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-06/mf_usfans">article</a> on 2chan in Wired today?</p>
<p>What I thought was cool in a sort of sentimental way was the <a href="http://www.rinji.tv/densha/>story of Train Man, which I hadn&#8217;t heard before. I mean, talk about a depressing culture.  But it really makes things like that stand out.</p>
<p>Ok, that&#8217;s first time using html links in a comment, so here goes nothing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scottfree</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I give up.  I think I might have left a slash out.

Train man story: http://www.rinji.tv/densha/

It&#039;s just the true story of a Japanese geek who falls in love/gets first girlfriend while getting advice from people on 2chan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I give up.  I think I might have left a slash out.</p>
<p>Train man story: <a href="http://www.rinji.tv/densha/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rinji.tv/densha/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s just the true story of a Japanese geek who falls in love/gets first girlfriend while getting advice from people on 2chan.</p>
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