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	<title>Comments on: Neat organization at new NYC&#160;bookstore</title>
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		<title>By: ckd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204808</link>
		<dc:creator>ckd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Datawhat (#17): Well, there was that saxophone track that Ron McNair was supposed to record during his flight on &lt;i&gt;Challenger&lt;/i&gt; for Jean-Michel Jarre. That wouldn&#039;t have been recorded &quot;on&quot; the planet....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Datawhat (#17): Well, there was that saxophone track that Ron McNair was supposed to record during his flight on <i>Challenger</i> for Jean-Michel Jarre. That wouldn&#8217;t have been recorded &#8220;on&#8221; the planet&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily (daturazoku)</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204554</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily (daturazoku)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto the Powell&#039;s Travel Bookstore in Portland, OR.  Glad to see NYC finally caught up with the times. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto the Powell&#8217;s Travel Bookstore in Portland, OR.  Glad to see NYC finally caught up with the times. :P</p>
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		<title>By: DMK</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-205596</link>
		<dc:creator>DMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, &quot;Idlewild&quot; used to be the name of JFK airport in the New York City borough of Queens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, &#8220;Idlewild&#8221; used to be the name of JFK airport in the New York City borough of Queens.</p>
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		<title>By: Avram</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204338</link>
		<dc:creator>Avram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JenJen, it&#039;s a &lt;b&gt;travel bookstore&lt;/b&gt;. What makes you think they stock spacey science fiction at all? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JenJen, it&#8217;s a <b>travel bookstore</b>. What makes you think they stock spacey science fiction at all? </p>
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		<title>By: jjasper</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204350</link>
		<dc:creator>jjasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I went to Ireland, I got a few cookbooks and a copy of Dublin Noir (mystery anthology) before I left.  This is a great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I went to Ireland, I got a few cookbooks and a copy of Dublin Noir (mystery anthology) before I left.  This is a great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Enochrewt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204096</link>
		<dc:creator>Enochrewt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about this one.  It&#039;s like organizing your MP3 collection by genre, great in theory, until you try and catalog stuff done by David Bowie, Lyle Lovitt or some other &quot;genre transcending&quot; artist (AMG&#039;s words, not mine).

Then you get to the electronic music, and realize that there&#039;s a hundred sub-genres and the drum and bass doesn&#039;t really go with the true techno, or that nu-skool breaks doesn&#039;t really have much to do with happy hardcore etc.  

Or should you split country music into two sections, post-1980 and pre-1980?  

You get what I mean, this seems like a hassle to set up for books, and potentially a hassle for the customers as well (It should be in the UK section!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about this one.  It&#8217;s like organizing your MP3 collection by genre, great in theory, until you try and catalog stuff done by David Bowie, Lyle Lovitt or some other &#8220;genre transcending&#8221; artist (AMG&#8217;s words, not mine).</p>
<p>Then you get to the electronic music, and realize that there&#8217;s a hundred sub-genres and the drum and bass doesn&#8217;t really go with the true techno, or that nu-skool breaks doesn&#8217;t really have much to do with happy hardcore etc.  </p>
<p>Or should you split country music into two sections, post-1980 and pre-1980?  </p>
<p>You get what I mean, this seems like a hassle to set up for books, and potentially a hassle for the customers as well (It should be in the UK section!</p>
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		<title>By: just craig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-206919</link>
		<dc:creator>just craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip! Checked out the store this weekend and they not only have great stuff; the space itself is really beautiful, as you can see from the photos on the website: http://www.idlewildbooks.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip! Checked out the store this weekend and they not only have great stuff; the space itself is really beautiful, as you can see from the photos on the website: <a href="http://www.idlewildbooks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.idlewildbooks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204119</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;1

Except that I don&#039;t know how a person could be in two places at once, and the same goes for fictional people in books, unless they&#039;re Wolverine.

Besides, if a book deals with multiple locations, they could always order multiple copies and shelve each copy under one of the appropriate countries.</description>
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<p>Except that I don&#8217;t know how a person could be in two places at once, and the same goes for fictional people in books, unless they&#8217;re Wolverine.</p>
<p>Besides, if a book deals with multiple locations, they could always order multiple copies and shelve each copy under one of the appropriate countries.</p>
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		<title>By: krex</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204123</link>
		<dc:creator>krex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scratch the petty critique and give it up for a new independent bookstore.  something I think all can agree we don&#039;t have nearly enough of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scratch the petty critique and give it up for a new independent bookstore.  something I think all can agree we don&#8217;t have nearly enough of.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB @2, unless I missed that issue, Wolverine can&#039;t be in two places at once. You want Jamie Madrox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB @2, unless I missed that issue, Wolverine can&#8217;t be in two places at once. You want Jamie Madrox.</p>
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		<title>By: pcamps</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcamps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not very new I&#039;m afraid!

The Altair travel bookstores (in Spain) have been doing this for at least 13 yrs, as well as Daunt Books in London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not very new I&#8217;m afraid!</p>
<p>The Altair travel bookstores (in Spain) have been doing this for at least 13 yrs, as well as Daunt Books in London.</p>
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		<title>By: jgodsey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204140</link>
		<dc:creator>jgodsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Globe Corner Bookshop has been shelving like that for decades.  In the original store on State Street in Boston - the bottom floor was all New England, and the second flood had all the books of the world arranged in circumference around the room as they are on the planet.  Very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Globe Corner Bookshop has been shelving like that for decades.  In the original store on State Street in Boston &#8211; the bottom floor was all New England, and the second flood had all the books of the world arranged in circumference around the room as they are on the planet.  Very cool.</p>
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		<title>By: acb</title>
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		<dc:creator>acb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Travel Bookshop in Notting Hill, London, does something similar as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Travel Bookshop in Notting Hill, London, does something similar as well.</p>
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		<title>By: scottfree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/05/neat-organization-at.html#comment-204141</link>
		<dc:creator>scottfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think LB has it right on with the multiple locations for books, except it would be a huge hassle for bigger shops to organise.

I guess you could have a scanable tag on a book indicating which section the customer got it from, so you know where you need to restock, but that&#039;s the kind of thing people get worried about: the little consumer micro-tags coming out that document an absurd amount of information about customers without their permission.  Plus people pick up books and reshelve them at random--I&#039;ve had a lot of trouble with bookshops reading something in stock but being unable to find it because it was either stolen or misplaced.

Generally though, I love the idea of creative organisation, even if this isn&#039;t the most out there example.  For instance the Tate Modern may not be the most radical museum ever, but I definitely appreciated how different paintings seemed to mean different things when classed according to subject or colour etc. as opposed to period or school as in most museums.  The world is a dynamic place where things tend not to fall into clearly demarcated categories, and I&#039;m not sure the benefits gained by efficiency outweigh the flat monotony of pretending things can be easily and definitively placed in categories.  When you really need a book no matter how a place is organised you almost always need to ask the staff to look it up on the computer to find out where it is, so might as well make browsing into an experience, rather then a failed attempt to facilitate a customer&#039;s trip from a to b, no book to book to door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think LB has it right on with the multiple locations for books, except it would be a huge hassle for bigger shops to organise.</p>
<p>I guess you could have a scanable tag on a book indicating which section the customer got it from, so you know where you need to restock, but that&#8217;s the kind of thing people get worried about: the little consumer micro-tags coming out that document an absurd amount of information about customers without their permission.  Plus people pick up books and reshelve them at random&#8211;I&#8217;ve had a lot of trouble with bookshops reading something in stock but being unable to find it because it was either stolen or misplaced.</p>
<p>Generally though, I love the idea of creative organisation, even if this isn&#8217;t the most out there example.  For instance the Tate Modern may not be the most radical museum ever, but I definitely appreciated how different paintings seemed to mean different things when classed according to subject or colour etc. as opposed to period or school as in most museums.  The world is a dynamic place where things tend not to fall into clearly demarcated categories, and I&#8217;m not sure the benefits gained by efficiency outweigh the flat monotony of pretending things can be easily and definitively placed in categories.  When you really need a book no matter how a place is organised you almost always need to ask the staff to look it up on the computer to find out where it is, so might as well make browsing into an experience, rather then a failed attempt to facilitate a customer&#8217;s trip from a to b, no book to book to door.</p>
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		<title>By: MonkeyRobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonkeyRobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As PCamps sez, Daunt Books in London has been doing this for a while -- see http://www.dauntbooks.co.uk/ . It&#039;s a marvellous shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As PCamps sez, Daunt Books in London has been doing this for a while &#8212; see <a href="http://www.dauntbooks.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dauntbooks.co.uk/</a> . It&#8217;s a marvellous shop.</p>
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		<title>By: JJR1971</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJR1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool idea, indeed.  

It would make a good idea for a temporary travel-related display in a public library, too.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool idea, indeed.  </p>
<p>It would make a good idea for a temporary travel-related display in a public library, too.</p>
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		<title>By: MarinaMartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarinaMartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool concept, even if it&#039;s been done before.

A random series of events led me to read &quot;Prague&quot; by Arthur Phillips (which is not about Prague at all, but rather about Budapest) shortly before my first trip to Hungary. Since he lived in Budapest himself before writing the book, all the places the characters visited were real. This made my trip to Budapest extremely enjoyable, as I could avoid tourist traps but have my own private guided tour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool concept, even if it&#8217;s been done before.</p>
<p>A random series of events led me to read &#8220;Prague&#8221; by Arthur Phillips (which is not about Prague at all, but rather about Budapest) shortly before my first trip to Hungary. Since he lived in Budapest himself before writing the book, all the places the characters visited were real. This made my trip to Budapest extremely enjoyable, as I could avoid tourist traps but have my own private guided tour.</p>
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		<title>By: JEM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom has being doing this for years. It&#039;s bloody confusing if you don&#039;t know where an author is from!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom has being doing this for years. It&#8217;s bloody confusing if you don&#8217;t know where an author is from!</p>
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		<title>By: jenjen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet it prompts some interesting staff meetings. Where to put Tolkien.  Or spacey scifi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet it prompts some interesting staff meetings. Where to put Tolkien.  Or spacey scifi?</p>
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		<title>By: DataWhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DataWhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former record store employee, I can only imagine the nice serendipity for the casual browser and the hair-pulling trauma for the clerk when somebody asks for a title.  

&lt;b&gt;Bookworm:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Hi, I looked under Literature for &#039;A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man&#039; but didn&#039;t find it.  Do you have it in stock?&quot;

&lt;b&gt;Frustrated poet with an English Degree behind the counter:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Hmmm...the computer says we have one copy, let&#039;s check the Irish travel section, the Catholicism rebellion section, The &#039;&lt;i&gt;Desmond From LOST&#039;s Fave Reads&lt;/i&gt;&#039; endcap, behind the returns desk, and any number of other kooky places to see if we can track it down.&quot;

If your future blind date&#039;s Facebook page says she&#039;s really into William Carlos Williams and you want to do some pre-date cramming (so to speak) where do you start?

Then again, when I was at Tower Records we always joked about putting every single CD in alphabetical order and calling it &quot;World&quot; music since it was all recorded on the planet, so I may have thought about this junk too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former record store employee, I can only imagine the nice serendipity for the casual browser and the hair-pulling trauma for the clerk when somebody asks for a title.  </p>
<p><b>Bookworm:</b> &#8220;Hi, I looked under Literature for &#8216;A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man&#8217; but didn&#8217;t find it.  Do you have it in stock?&#8221;</p>
<p><b>Frustrated poet with an English Degree behind the counter:</b> &#8220;Hmmm&#8230;the computer says we have one copy, let&#8217;s check the Irish travel section, the Catholicism rebellion section, The &#8216;<i>Desmond From LOST&#8217;s Fave Reads</i>&#8216; endcap, behind the returns desk, and any number of other kooky places to see if we can track it down.&#8221;</p>
<p>If your future blind date&#8217;s Facebook page says she&#8217;s really into William Carlos Williams and you want to do some pre-date cramming (so to speak) where do you start?</p>
<p>Then again, when I was at Tower Records we always joked about putting every single CD in alphabetical order and calling it &#8220;World&#8221; music since it was all recorded on the planet, so I may have thought about this junk too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Swizzlebat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swizzlebat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you like that idea, you should check out the titles from &lt;b&gt;&lt;a&gt;Whereabouts Press&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;; they&#039;re a tiny publishing company in Berkeley that produces what they call &quot;literary traveler&#039;s companions;&quot; whole books of the literature from a particular country (or iconic city) in translation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, they have titles on China, Costa Rica, Cuba, Prague, Amsterdam, Greece, and Japan. Definitely worth a lookâ€”you might even be able to find them at Idlewild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like that idea, you should check out the titles from <b><a>Whereabouts Press</a></b>; they&#8217;re a tiny publishing company in Berkeley that produces what they call &#8220;literary traveler&#8217;s companions;&#8221; whole books of the literature from a particular country (or iconic city) in translation.</p>
<p>Last time I checked, they have titles on China, Costa Rica, Cuba, Prague, Amsterdam, Greece, and Japan. Definitely worth a lookâ€”you might even be able to find them at Idlewild.</p>
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