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	<title>Comments on: Josh Harris: &quot;Pseudo was a fake&#160;company.&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Johnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220416</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Pahool above, I was also a big fan of Infinity Factory, and watched a lot of Pseudo&#039;s programming back in the day.

I&#039;m not sure what Harris is trying to do by calling a failed/fake/fraudulent company &quot;performance art.&quot; Perhaps he&#039;s trying to clear his conscience in a way that he thinks will absolve him of any wrong-doing? It seems like he has, in his head, shifted responsibility from himself to the media, which he blames for not seeing through his ruse. At least, I think that&#039;s what he&#039;s saying, because his arguments are elaborately conspiratorial.

I fear that this will not be enough for Harris, because he&#039;s smart enough to know this explanation isn&#039;t very good, but currently unable to accept the consequences of his mistakes and find a way to move on. At worst, he will become the new Bobby Fischer, living a secluded life, occasionally sending ever-more paranoid statements to the media that paid attention to him back when he was on top. At best, he&#039;ll find a good therapist, work through some of his issues, and rejoin society a humbler man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Pahool above, I was also a big fan of Infinity Factory, and watched a lot of Pseudo&#8217;s programming back in the day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what Harris is trying to do by calling a failed/fake/fraudulent company &#8220;performance art.&#8221; Perhaps he&#8217;s trying to clear his conscience in a way that he thinks will absolve him of any wrong-doing? It seems like he has, in his head, shifted responsibility from himself to the media, which he blames for not seeing through his ruse. At least, I think that&#8217;s what he&#8217;s saying, because his arguments are elaborately conspiratorial.</p>
<p>I fear that this will not be enough for Harris, because he&#8217;s smart enough to know this explanation isn&#8217;t very good, but currently unable to accept the consequences of his mistakes and find a way to move on. At worst, he will become the new Bobby Fischer, living a secluded life, occasionally sending ever-more paranoid statements to the media that paid attention to him back when he was on top. At best, he&#8217;ll find a good therapist, work through some of his issues, and rejoin society a humbler man.</p>
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		<title>By: geo the moose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220419</link>
		<dc:creator>geo the moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well then, using Josh&#039;s analogy I too must be a conceptual artist and all the tech support calls I take are my performances! wow, I too am cool artist now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well then, using Josh&#8217;s analogy I too must be a conceptual artist and all the tech support calls I take are my performances! wow, I too am cool artist now!</p>
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		<title>By: pahool</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220682</link>
		<dc:creator>pahool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m jonesing...Seriously...does anyone have an Infinity Factory torrent or something...Must listen to Metzger telling Genesis P-orridge how cool s/he is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m jonesing&#8230;Seriously&#8230;does anyone have an Infinity Factory torrent or something&#8230;Must listen to Metzger telling Genesis P-orridge how cool s/he is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220688</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who worked at pseudo during it&#039;s final
year,the fakeness that I remembered seemed to
revolve more or less around josh harris himself.
I also remember the walking sleaze that was
David Bohrman, who upon taking control wasted no
time in killing all that was cutting-edge about
pseudo. Not to mention the incessant harrassment
of the production team. I worked on the 6th floor,
under josh white, bonnie lemon and lance harkins,
all hugely talented and tirelessly driven. For
josh harris to make such statements is ridiculous.
He is an attention-whore, that&#039;s all.

One thing that did turn out to be fake,our
stock options!

wes hansen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who worked at pseudo during it&#8217;s final<br />
year,the fakeness that I remembered seemed to<br />
revolve more or less around josh harris himself.<br />
I also remember the walking sleaze that was<br />
David Bohrman, who upon taking control wasted no<br />
time in killing all that was cutting-edge about<br />
pseudo. Not to mention the incessant harrassment<br />
of the production team. I worked on the 6th floor,<br />
under josh white, bonnie lemon and lance harkins,<br />
all hugely talented and tirelessly driven. For<br />
josh harris to make such statements is ridiculous.<br />
He is an attention-whore, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>One thing that did turn out to be fake,our<br />
stock options!</p>
<p>wes hansen</p>
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		<title>By: pspinrad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220434</link>
		<dc:creator>pspinrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that was an art piece, wow-- good one!  I&#039;m happy to think of it as art, and if the hive-mind of the arts establishment eventually agrees, then great-- everyone can call it art!*  Otherwise it&#039;s a con.  But that&#039;s the sole distinction between the two, and there can be beauty and brilliance in either form.

At contemporary art museums, I marvel at the beauty of the Big Con, and how sophisticated it can become when honed over generations by large institutions!  The great con men of yesteryear are today&#039;s art stars, and there&#039;s nothing wrong with that.  If they can extract millions from the wealthy by making them feel special, more power to them. To do so successfully, you can&#039;t help but hold up a valuable mirror to society.  And the particulars of how this is accomplished are worthy of analysis, teach us about where we draw our lines, and can even help make a better world.

*I don&#039;t think they will, though, because as far as I know, Josh Harris wasn&#039;t enough of an art insider.  But maybe he does have some longtime artist pals from early in his career who were in on the game, and have since advanced themselves.  If so, he might be able to get Pseudo.com into the art history books after all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that was an art piece, wow&#8211; good one!  I&#8217;m happy to think of it as art, and if the hive-mind of the arts establishment eventually agrees, then great&#8211; everyone can call it art!*  Otherwise it&#8217;s a con.  But that&#8217;s the sole distinction between the two, and there can be beauty and brilliance in either form.</p>
<p>At contemporary art museums, I marvel at the beauty of the Big Con, and how sophisticated it can become when honed over generations by large institutions!  The great con men of yesteryear are today&#8217;s art stars, and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.  If they can extract millions from the wealthy by making them feel special, more power to them. To do so successfully, you can&#8217;t help but hold up a valuable mirror to society.  And the particulars of how this is accomplished are worthy of analysis, teach us about where we draw our lines, and can even help make a better world.</p>
<p>*I don&#8217;t think they will, though, because as far as I know, Josh Harris wasn&#8217;t enough of an art insider.  But maybe he does have some longtime artist pals from early in his career who were in on the game, and have since advanced themselves.  If so, he might be able to get Pseudo.com into the art history books after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Destiny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-223251</link>
		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.suck.com/daily/2000/10/05/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suck.com wrote this snarky essay&lt;/a&gt; the week Pseudo folded. (Last blurb in the Hit and Run from October 10, 2005.)

&quot;Alas, you can only extrapolate growth curves for so long, and though they&#039;d formed an integral part of Pseudo&#039;s ongoing coverage of the burgeoning southeast Asian underground music scene, Veena and Neena, the identical twin boa constrictor belly dancers, will have to seek employment elsewhere.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.suck.com/daily/2000/10/05/" rel="nofollow">Suck.com wrote this snarky essay</a> the week Pseudo folded. (Last blurb in the Hit and Run from October 10, 2005.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Alas, you can only extrapolate growth curves for so long, and though they&#8217;d formed an integral part of Pseudo&#8217;s ongoing coverage of the burgeoning southeast Asian underground music scene, Veena and Neena, the identical twin boa constrictor belly dancers, will have to seek employment elsewhere.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pspinrad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220439</link>
		<dc:creator>pspinrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I take it back-- he does have lots of art world connections.  So this may work after all!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I take it back&#8211; he does have lots of art world connections.  So this may work after all!</p>
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		<title>By: rushkoff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220441</link>
		<dc:creator>rushkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But this was definitely not his intent. 

Yes, he wanted pseudo.com to be a cool art scene where people trip a lot and have sex or whatever, and use the net to make weird points. 

But he also, almost definitely, wanted to make money for himself and his friends. At the very least, I have to believe he saw his friends, parents, siblings, and girlfriends as being on the winning side of the art/money/scam equation. I don&#039;t think he meant for the &quot;artists&quot; he was playing with  - myself included - to lose all our savings by participating. 

Perhaps he saw some endgame scenario where that would happen to Wall Street people, but even then, I think it was supposed to be about eventually getting other people&#039;s money to build a really fun media studio. That we had to put in our own money at the beginning to make it work wasn&#039;t about scamming others or being scammed ourselves, I don&#039;t think. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But this was definitely not his intent. </p>
<p>Yes, he wanted pseudo.com to be a cool art scene where people trip a lot and have sex or whatever, and use the net to make weird points. </p>
<p>But he also, almost definitely, wanted to make money for himself and his friends. At the very least, I have to believe he saw his friends, parents, siblings, and girlfriends as being on the winning side of the art/money/scam equation. I don&#8217;t think he meant for the &#8220;artists&#8221; he was playing with  &#8211; myself included &#8211; to lose all our savings by participating. </p>
<p>Perhaps he saw some endgame scenario where that would happen to Wall Street people, but even then, I think it was supposed to be about eventually getting other people&#8217;s money to build a really fun media studio. That we had to put in our own money at the beginning to make it work wasn&#8217;t about scamming others or being scammed ourselves, I don&#8217;t think. </p>
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		<title>By: TwoShort</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220454</link>
		<dc:creator>TwoShort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
  If he really meant to have the company fail, and told investors something else, that&#039;s clearly criminal.  But it&#039;s pretty obvious he&#039;s looking back now and thinking &quot;long-form performance artist&quot; sounds better than &quot;deluded dot-com laughing-stock&quot;.  But even though I don&#039;t believe him, there&#039;s no theoretical reason he can&#039;t be both.  If you act like an idiot and call it art, you still acted like an idiot.  And if you act like an idiot over the course of a decade, you are actually an idiot.

 If your art requires you telling me it is art, it isn&#039;t good art.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  If he really meant to have the company fail, and told investors something else, that&#8217;s clearly criminal.  But it&#8217;s pretty obvious he&#8217;s looking back now and thinking &#8220;long-form performance artist&#8221; sounds better than &#8220;deluded dot-com laughing-stock&#8221;.  But even though I don&#8217;t believe him, there&#8217;s no theoretical reason he can&#8217;t be both.  If you act like an idiot and call it art, you still acted like an idiot.  And if you act like an idiot over the course of a decade, you are actually an idiot.</p>
<p> If your art requires you telling me it is art, it isn&#8217;t good art.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-222759</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really it does not matter what actually occurred at the corner of Broadway Houston in a few hyperreal months at the turn of the millennium. We all will remember it differently. 

What feels great is to be a part of a psychedelic ( in the classical sense of the word) history that is being forgotten. One of many great ironies is that after the Pseudos and the Kozmos and the Webvans imploded, those SunSparc servers found their way via liquidation sales into the homes of a thousand tiny simulacrae, some of which are enjoying their own Dadaist valuations. This is one performance art piece that is without end.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really it does not matter what actually occurred at the corner of Broadway Houston in a few hyperreal months at the turn of the millennium. We all will remember it differently. </p>
<p>What feels great is to be a part of a psychedelic ( in the classical sense of the word) history that is being forgotten. One of many great ironies is that after the Pseudos and the Kozmos and the Webvans imploded, those SunSparc servers found their way via liquidation sales into the homes of a thousand tiny simulacrae, some of which are enjoying their own Dadaist valuations. This is one performance art piece that is without end.   </p>
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		<title>By: markbellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>markbellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He doesn&#039;t have much of a tan for someone who&#039;s been growing coffee in Ethiopia - sure he&#039;s not still yanking your chain and sent you a pic of himself at a botanical garden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#8217;t have much of a tan for someone who&#8217;s been growing coffee in Ethiopia &#8211; sure he&#8217;s not still yanking your chain and sent you a pic of himself at a botanical garden?</p>
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		<title>By: Destiny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-223274</link>
		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoop. That should be October 5, 200.</description>
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		<title>By: Xeni Jardin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220720</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeni Jardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rushkoff, joel, and the other old-skoolers, thanks for weighing in.

Whatever the truth is here, and whatever the evaluation of Josh (good/bad/sane/insane/artist/scam artist), I just wanted to add how much I, too, loved Infinity Factor, and many of the other Pseudo shows.

they were my first experience of internet TV. I totally fell in love with them, they were the future, and I remember wishing so hard that I could do something that cool, those shows shaped the rest of my life in a huge way, influenced some of the most important career decisions I made along the way.

Had I not seen Pseudo, I probably wouldn&#039;t be doing BBtv today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rushkoff, joel, and the other old-skoolers, thanks for weighing in.</p>
<p>Whatever the truth is here, and whatever the evaluation of Josh (good/bad/sane/insane/artist/scam artist), I just wanted to add how much I, too, loved Infinity Factor, and many of the other Pseudo shows.</p>
<p>they were my first experience of internet TV. I totally fell in love with them, they were the future, and I remember wishing so hard that I could do something that cool, those shows shaped the rest of my life in a huge way, influenced some of the most important career decisions I made along the way.</p>
<p>Had I not seen Pseudo, I probably wouldn&#8217;t be doing BBtv today.</p>
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		<title>By: Wit Happens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wit Happens</dc:creator>
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		<description>How to insulate yourself from an embarrassing bubble-era failure: call it &quot;art&quot; and tell the world &quot;oh, I meant to do that&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: cherry shiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>cherry shiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know josh. this is typical retrospective hype/spin, and i&#039;m afraid he may be shooting himself in the foot with hyperbolic self incrimination, just to get attention (again).

pseudo was &quot;real&quot; in the sense that they actually existed and spent their funds on real projects, so there is no fraud per se. 

but they were &quot;fake&quot; in the sense that everything they did was essentially disposable and a part of josh&#039;s momentous sense of aggrandizing self-promotion. there was no &quot;there&quot; there, but there was actually a lot going on there. 

no more of a fraud than any television network, or a bank charging you $3 to use an atm, for that matter.

i thought his letter to the times could have been worded a little better to clarify his peculiar meaning of the word &quot;fake&quot;. like so many other capitalist ventures, pseudo wasn&#039;t so much &quot;fake&quot; as it was just &quot;shallow&quot;. they remain significant in the history of the dotcom, and i suspect this was his essential intent and thus his claim to &quot;art&quot;, another term he recklessly misappropriates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know josh. this is typical retrospective hype/spin, and i&#8217;m afraid he may be shooting himself in the foot with hyperbolic self incrimination, just to get attention (again).</p>
<p>pseudo was &#8220;real&#8221; in the sense that they actually existed and spent their funds on real projects, so there is no fraud per se. </p>
<p>but they were &#8220;fake&#8221; in the sense that everything they did was essentially disposable and a part of josh&#8217;s momentous sense of aggrandizing self-promotion. there was no &#8220;there&#8221; there, but there was actually a lot going on there. </p>
<p>no more of a fraud than any television network, or a bank charging you $3 to use an atm, for that matter.</p>
<p>i thought his letter to the times could have been worded a little better to clarify his peculiar meaning of the word &#8220;fake&#8221;. like so many other capitalist ventures, pseudo wasn&#8217;t so much &#8220;fake&#8221; as it was just &#8220;shallow&#8221;. they remain significant in the history of the dotcom, and i suspect this was his essential intent and thus his claim to &#8220;art&#8221;, another term he recklessly misappropriates.</p>
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		<title>By: Tania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah, if the late-nineties habit of treating investor cash as your private party fund is an art form, Dennis Kozlowski is the Rembrandt and Josh Harris is merely School of. Anyway, it&#039;s not very pretty to see Josh pretending to laugh at the people he pretends to have suckered. Pseudo was not merely an Underpants Gnomes corporation with pretensions. Pseudo was a genuinely good idea (interactive Web TV) ruined by bad management. (Also, not enough people had broadband yet, and the content was a little too free-cable-channel in tone to be convincing.) The Pseudo vision of the Web has come to pass, but other people made it happen. That said, it&#039;s nice to see Harris in an environment that raises his chances of waking up and smelling the coffee. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah, if the late-nineties habit of treating investor cash as your private party fund is an art form, Dennis Kozlowski is the Rembrandt and Josh Harris is merely School of. Anyway, it&#8217;s not very pretty to see Josh pretending to laugh at the people he pretends to have suckered. Pseudo was not merely an Underpants Gnomes corporation with pretensions. Pseudo was a genuinely good idea (interactive Web TV) ruined by bad management. (Also, not enough people had broadband yet, and the content was a little too free-cable-channel in tone to be convincing.) The Pseudo vision of the Web has come to pass, but other people made it happen. That said, it&#8217;s nice to see Harris in an environment that raises his chances of waking up and smelling the coffee. </p>
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		<title>By: hep cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>hep cat</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;Was it fair and right (or ethical?) to sacrifice Mr. Blairâ€™s editorâ€™s (Mr. Raines and Mr. Boyd who resigned) when the New York Times Corporation still has not met best of bread standards for vetting Jayson Blairâ€™s reportage?&quot;

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Bread/dp/B00005JGA4

Would that be track 5 &quot;It Don&#039;t Matter to Me&quot; 
or track 11 &quot;Look What You&#039;ve Done&quot; or maybe 17 &quot;He&#039;s a Good Lad&quot;  or 2 &quot;Everything I Own&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Was it fair and right (or ethical?) to sacrifice Mr. Blairâ€™s editorâ€™s (Mr. Raines and Mr. Boyd who resigned) when the New York Times Corporation still has not met best of bread standards for vetting Jayson Blairâ€™s reportage?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Best-Bread/dp/B00005JGA4" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Best-Bread/dp/B00005JGA4</a></p>
<p>Would that be track 5 &#8220;It Don&#8217;t Matter to Me&#8221;<br />
or track 11 &#8220;Look What You&#8217;ve Done&#8221; or maybe 17 &#8220;He&#8217;s a Good Lad&#8221;  or 2 &#8220;Everything I Own&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: LSK</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220752</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It provided s legitimate service. It had a source of income. By definition, it was a real company. It can be art too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It provided s legitimate service. It had a source of income. By definition, it was a real company. It can be art too.</p>
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		<title>By: raisedbywolves</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220511</link>
		<dc:creator>raisedbywolves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Dude starts a website that has *obvious* performance art aspects - especially in the context of the mid-90&#039;s exploration of the Net as a new medium for art. Website fails. 

Dude goes public a decade later saying, &quot;HAY GUYZ MY ARTY WEBSITE WAS ACTUALLY ART HA HA&quot; and trying to link the entire thing to a years-old plagiarism scandal. 

What in g-d&#039;s name is the point of this??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Dude starts a website that has *obvious* performance art aspects &#8211; especially in the context of the mid-90&#8242;s exploration of the Net as a new medium for art. Website fails. </p>
<p>Dude goes public a decade later saying, &#8220;HAY GUYZ MY ARTY WEBSITE WAS ACTUALLY ART HA HA&#8221; and trying to link the entire thing to a years-old plagiarism scandal. </p>
<p>What in g-d&#8217;s name is the point of this??</p>
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		<title>By: DigitalHustlers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220771</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite a statement. But is it really from Josh Harris? The writing is maddening -- why the obsession with Jayson Blair so many years after the fact? Doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. And when you talk about business failure vs. performance art -- it&#039;s all a matter of perspective in the end. Whatever he thinks of the company now, Pseudo performed a business function of creating video programming for a Web site. It wasn&#039;t a very profitable business function, and that, along with profligate spending, inadequate broadband access at the time and a poor business model (add the word &quot;user-generated&quot; to the content model and it mighthave been YouTube) is why it&#039;s no longer in busines. Oh, but it sure was fun. :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite a statement. But is it really from Josh Harris? The writing is maddening &#8212; why the obsession with Jayson Blair so many years after the fact? Doesn&#8217;t make a whole lot of sense. And when you talk about business failure vs. performance art &#8212; it&#8217;s all a matter of perspective in the end. Whatever he thinks of the company now, Pseudo performed a business function of creating video programming for a Web site. It wasn&#8217;t a very profitable business function, and that, along with profligate spending, inadequate broadband access at the time and a poor business model (add the word &#8220;user-generated&#8221; to the content model and it mighthave been YouTube) is why it&#8217;s no longer in busines. Oh, but it sure was fun. :-) </p>
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		<title>By: rushkoff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220516</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand the connection - and I&#039;m not totally stupid (yet). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand the connection &#8211; and I&#8217;m not totally stupid (yet). </p>
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		<title>By: edoran</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-222569</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess the salary I made working there was all fake money, too.</description>
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		<title>By: pspinrad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220522</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points-- &quot;Intentional Fallacy&quot; aside, if he wanted to make money for himself and his pals, create a great scene, and then he succeeded with all of that and later told everyone it was performance art, that would be a more interesting piece-- more &quot;Warholian.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points&#8211; &#8220;Intentional Fallacy&#8221; aside, if he wanted to make money for himself and his pals, create a great scene, and then he succeeded with all of that and later told everyone it was performance art, that would be a more interesting piece&#8211; more &#8220;Warholian.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220525</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey neighbor, you know that lawn mower I borrowed and then destroyed? performance art. And that time I came home drunk and passed out on your lawn? performance art. And the mail I stole from your mailbox? performance art! Hey guess what! You&#039;re gonna love the piece I&#039;m working on now with your wife at the airport ramada! THAT&#039;S performance ART!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey neighbor, you know that lawn mower I borrowed and then destroyed? performance art. And that time I came home drunk and passed out on your lawn? performance art. And the mail I stole from your mailbox? performance art! Hey guess what! You&#8217;re gonna love the piece I&#8217;m working on now with your wife at the airport ramada! THAT&#8217;S performance ART!</p>
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		<title>By: castewar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220532</link>
		<dc:creator>castewar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome - so those Koolout sessions I&#039;ve been trying to track down for a decade aren&#039;t &quot;lost&quot; or &quot;missing&quot;, they&#039;re conceptual.


(grump)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome &#8211; so those Koolout sessions I&#8217;ve been trying to track down for a decade aren&#8217;t &#8220;lost&#8221; or &#8220;missing&#8221;, they&#8217;re conceptual.</p>
<p>(grump)</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-222586</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proceeds of crime possibly?</description>
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		<title>By: JerryColonna</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220797</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, like Doug Rushkoff et al. I&#039;m an old dog. Too much gray hair from those days on Broadway and such. I had three thoughts when I read this piece:
a) I&#039;m worried about Josh. Why does he always need to seek the attention, just when he seems to be getting better.
b) Josh is being Josh and maybe that&#039;s a good thing. The whole issue turns on the definition of &quot;real company.&quot; In Josh&#039;s mind, I&#039;ll bet, there ain&#039;t a lot of companies that are &quot;real.&quot;
c) Oh, wait, damn...Josh IS being Josh. The whole letter to BoingBoing and the rant about Jayson (and maybe even the gig in Africa)...THIS is the performance piece.

And now, in writing the above, I hope Josh is reading all these comments and laughing himself silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, like Doug Rushkoff et al. I&#8217;m an old dog. Too much gray hair from those days on Broadway and such. I had three thoughts when I read this piece:<br />
a) I&#8217;m worried about Josh. Why does he always need to seek the attention, just when he seems to be getting better.<br />
b) Josh is being Josh and maybe that&#8217;s a good thing. The whole issue turns on the definition of &#8220;real company.&#8221; In Josh&#8217;s mind, I&#8217;ll bet, there ain&#8217;t a lot of companies that are &#8220;real.&#8221;<br />
c) Oh, wait, damn&#8230;Josh IS being Josh. The whole letter to BoingBoing and the rant about Jayson (and maybe even the gig in Africa)&#8230;THIS is the performance piece.</p>
<p>And now, in writing the above, I hope Josh is reading all these comments and laughing himself silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dbomb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Fatman can dine &quot;in house&quot; on takeout then the Little boy is obliged to attempt &quot;gulps&quot; of espresso in the &quot;shit house&quot;.

&quot;To want fame is to prefer dying scorned than forgotten.&quot;, E.M. Cioran 





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<p>&#8220;To want fame is to prefer dying scorned than forgotten.&#8221;, E.M. Cioran </p>
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		<title>By: tweaked</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As everyone seems to be thinking, this is utter nonsense. What the hell made this a &#039;fake&#039; company? Sure, you can do an IPO with your &#039;art project&#039; buddies as a lark using all made-up plans and products... but once you are incorporated and you&#039;ve got a whole bunch of products and people are buying them and investing in you... you have a REAL company, at least by the standards by which we (as nations) define such corporate entities. Even if it started as a fraud, even if it continues to be fraudulent - it&#039;s not FAKE! This guy sounds like a douche. Enron and Worldcom aren&#039;t considered &#039;fake&#039; companies just because they were cooking the books and selling stock based on stuff they didn&#039;t have. They&#039;re just fraudulent companies, and now they&#039;re companies that don&#039;t exist anymore. Don&#039;t see how this is ANY different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As everyone seems to be thinking, this is utter nonsense. What the hell made this a &#8216;fake&#8217; company? Sure, you can do an IPO with your &#8216;art project&#8217; buddies as a lark using all made-up plans and products&#8230; but once you are incorporated and you&#8217;ve got a whole bunch of products and people are buying them and investing in you&#8230; you have a REAL company, at least by the standards by which we (as nations) define such corporate entities. Even if it started as a fraud, even if it continues to be fraudulent &#8211; it&#8217;s not FAKE! This guy sounds like a douche. Enron and Worldcom aren&#8217;t considered &#8216;fake&#8217; companies just because they were cooking the books and selling stock based on stuff they didn&#8217;t have. They&#8217;re just fraudulent companies, and now they&#8217;re companies that don&#8217;t exist anymore. Don&#8217;t see how this is ANY different.</p>
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		<title>By: pspinrad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/06/26/josh-harris-pseudo-w.html#comment-220570</link>
		<dc:creator>pspinrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 Anonymous-- you got it!  It&#039;s just a matter of getting other people to indulge you, usually by convincing them that you&#039;re special.  The more of an asshole you can get away with being, the higher the status you&#039;ve achieved.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 Anonymous&#8211; you got it!  It&#8217;s just a matter of getting other people to indulge you, usually by convincing them that you&#8217;re special.  The more of an asshole you can get away with being, the higher the status you&#8217;ve achieved.</p>
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