Cops in this situation are adorable, caring, human beans. Give them credit for giving a damn in a society in which that doesn’t pay.

I still want an alligator though.

And I still can’t really understand how, in Chroma1′s mind, we got from some public servants attempting to save a baby’s life, to the shooting of scary intruders in someone’s house.

I don’t think the police dept. should pay for the broken window. It was very irresponsible for the women to leave this realistic doll in her car like this. She should have known better.

I suggest spending the $1000 on a charity for feeding or medicating or otherwise saving actual living babies instead.

There is no embarrassment on the part of the police as they were doing their jobs.

Re the fake IED argument…dont forget the Boston Lite-Brite scandal (I believe a traffic counter also fell victim).

Not to mention how heads would roll if somebody thought a dieing baby was a doll and let it go.

Well, actually, there’s plenty cigarette butts to be found on the street that I could smoke instead. I do feel a bit ashamed. I could do more.

I think we got from police smashing in a window to save a (supposed) baby’s life, to shooting someone who’s trying to steal your car, because Chroma has been recently burgled and is still working through the anger, sense of violation, and personal insecurity backlash. I may completely disagree with the conclusions Chroma is reaching, but I have to recognize that he’s in a bad place right now.

A sociopath isn’t a name, its a (vaguely defined by the psychological community) condition. Shooting someone for a minor offense is sociopathy.

If i confessed a strong desire to steal someone could apply the term kleptomaniac without me getting too offended by it. In fact the term sociopath has been applied to me itself in a recent discussion where I expressed apathy at the idea of the entire human race being wiped out in defense of nature. I took it in stride because It was applicable. But if i am a sociopath i’m only one in principle, not in action, as I deplore violence.

#73/Mark, Fair enough. Its just what I would do if i were the city. I’d give her a stern warning but i don’t think she actually broke any laws. If she didn’t get compensated i don’t think she should lose any sleep over it.

I’m honestly curious what you would do in any of these scenarios, since you seem to be full of criticism for defense of self and property, but still haven’t proffered alternatives that would come to their defense. Also, place yourself in my shoes; police response time is 45 minutes. Your answer should be most enlightening…

Do I think they’re ridiculous? Yes. Is he possibly trolling? maybe. But it makes for good reading, and amusing conversation. He didn’t use any hate speech and really didn’t even say anything that was patently offensive. Such censorship is gross overreaction. If I hadn’t seen his comments to me before they were mangled I wouldn’t have had the pleasure of responding to them, as i wouldn’t bother attempting to decipher them.

I’m buying stock in an auto glass place…

“The whole point is that it hopefully would never come to violence; you tell the perpetrator that they are being placed under citizens’ arrest and if they make one move, you will be forced to assume it’s a treat and will defend yourself within the limits of the law.”

This is a entirely reasonable and a far cry from shooting or beating someone who has broken your car windows. Unfortunately citizens arrest still doesn’t permit you to shoot someone who is simply breaking into a car. If they didn’t obey your orders and ran, you wouldn’t be able to shoot them. In most places you could use force to restrain the felon, but you would not be able to shoot or bludgeon them unless they attacked you, and the moment the person is subdued, further attacks turn from self defense to battery.

If you’re interested in what I would do to protect my property, If i owned a handgun, and someone broke into my house, and the threat level was nebulous, I would use lethal force to protect myself and my family. This is evidenced by an earlier statement where I admitted:

“Now if they were breaking into your house and the threat level of the intruder was much more ambiguous, I’m willing to grant you much more leeway in terms of the level of force you’re willing to deploy. So will a court of law.”

You either ignored or did not not understand this concession.

The owner of the doll should be committed for a psych eval. There is something broken w/ grow ups who carry dolls around.

What is that poem containing advice including ‘gracefully giving up the things of youth’ ? Someone should mail these folks a copy.

Try pulling a fake gun (that’s designed to look exactly like a real gun) on a cop, and see how far your logic gets you.

That’s almost as icky as these dolls.. yuck.