Comments on: Iggy and the Stooges' gear was stolen, help 'em find it! http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 05:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: takeshi http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-254722 takeshi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-254722 Yeah, I'm on Thurston Moore's email list, and the first thing I thought of when I got news of the theft was: that's gonna be difficult to replace. Only thing is, Sonic Youth played shortly thenafter. I guess they remember how to play instruments, prepared or not. Using things like the Third Hand Capo makes alternate tunings a breeze, so in the short term I'm sure they knew that everything would be fine. Plus, if anyone knows who to take their instruments to for modding, it's Sonic Youth. I'm not sure if their instruments were insured, but if they were I'm sure the insurance covered professional modifications. But just so you know: I was never saying that having your instruments stolen doesn't suck. Only that it sucks a lot <i>less</i> for bands that have money / insurance. Yeah, I’m on Thurston Moore’s email list, and the first thing I thought of when I got news of the theft was: that’s gonna be difficult to replace.

Only thing is, Sonic Youth played shortly thenafter. I guess they remember how to play instruments, prepared or not. Using things like the Third Hand Capo makes alternate tunings a breeze, so in the short term I’m sure they knew that everything would be fine. Plus, if anyone knows who to take their instruments to for modding, it’s Sonic Youth. I’m not sure if their instruments were insured, but if they were I’m sure the insurance covered professional modifications.

But just so you know: I was never saying that having your instruments stolen doesn’t suck. Only that it sucks a lot less for bands that have money / insurance.

]]> By: ZombieBabyDiego http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253708 ZombieBabyDiego Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253708 Being a musician who has had this happen before, I can definitely say being stranded on tour with no gear sucks like little else - and I hope they get it back, but..uhh..looking over the list of items, aside from the shortscale SG bass, there's nothing in there that can't be replaced by an insurance claim, since all items they're touring with are still being manufactured. the show will definitely go on, i'm sure. they'll just have to add a few more dates on the flipside to make up for some delays. Asheton is playing the Vintage Modern series from Marshall? ewwwww.... Being a musician who has had this happen before, I can definitely say being stranded on tour with no gear sucks like little else – and I hope they get it back, but..uhh..looking over the list of items, aside from the shortscale SG bass, there’s nothing in there that can’t be replaced by an insurance claim, since all items they’re touring with are still being manufactured.

the show will definitely go on, i’m sure. they’ll just have to add a few more dates on the flipside to make up for some delays.

Asheton is playing the Vintage Modern series from Marshall? ewwwww….

]]> By: trai_dep http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253199 trai_dep Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253199 Have the Jonas Brothers' whereabouts been verified around the time of the theft? Have the Jonas Brothers’ whereabouts been verified around the time of the theft?

]]> By: ROSSINDETROIT http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253983 ROSSINDETROIT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253983 The reason that the loss of Sonic Youth's guitars was serious is that they were not stock but were prepared instruments. Modded to make one particular sound for one song in some cases. The last time I saw them live there were at least 40 guitars visible just off stage. That kind of stuff can't be bought off the rack. It can be duplicated in most cases but not without a lot of difficulty. Definitely not the same as a van full of generic gear. I'll get the lowdown on this from a musician friend who usually has inside info. It's only 2:00 PM and I don't want to wake him... The reason that the loss of Sonic Youth’s guitars was serious is that they were not stock but were prepared instruments. Modded to make one particular sound for one song in some cases. The last time I saw them live there were at least 40 guitars visible just off stage. That kind of stuff can’t be bought off the rack. It can be duplicated in most cases but not without a lot of difficulty. Definitely not the same as a van full of generic gear.

I’ll get the lowdown on this from a musician friend who usually has inside info. It’s only 2:00 PM and I don’t want to wake him…

]]> By: ROSSINDETROIT http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253733 ROSSINDETROIT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253733 Only non-musicians (mostly) fetishize the gear. Talented people know it's the talents, not the tools, that make the music. It's actually kind of fortunate that this happened in Montreal where they had a fighting chance to round up substitutes for the missing equipment in reasonably short order. Still, considering the tight schedules that they must be running under, the delay is very damaging. BTW, I read the Tour Rider linked to above. It really is very funny. Only non-musicians (mostly) fetishize the gear. Talented people know it’s the talents, not the tools, that make the music. It’s actually kind of fortunate that this happened in Montreal where they had a fighting chance to round up substitutes for the missing equipment in reasonably short order. Still, considering the tight schedules that they must be running under, the delay is very damaging.

BTW, I read the Tour Rider linked to above. It really is very funny.

]]> By: mdhatter http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-252967 mdhatter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-252967 Anyone seen Jake and Elwood? I hear they're gettin' the band back together. Anyone seen Jake and Elwood? I hear they’re gettin’ the band back together.

]]> By: knowles http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-252978 knowles Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-252978 this sucks and HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. this sucks and HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

]]> By: ROSSINDETROIT http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253490 ROSSINDETROIT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253490 The last time I drove to Toronto (2001) I left my car parked on Queen street and 14 hours later the key was still in the door lock where I accidentally left it. It got towed, but apparently nobody tried to steal it. The last time I drove to Toronto (2001) I left my car parked on Queen street and 14 hours later the key was still in the door lock where I accidentally left it. It got towed, but apparently nobody tried to steal it.

]]> By: ROSSINDETROIT http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253751 ROSSINDETROIT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253751 <i>the show will definitely go on, i'm sure. they'll just have to add a few more dates on the flipside to make up for some delays. </i> It looks like tonight's show at Massey Hall in Toronto is still on. People around here - some of them well informed - are sure to be talking about this. If I hear anything useful I'll post it here. the show will definitely go on, i’m sure. they’ll just have to add a few more dates on the flipside to make up for some delays.

It looks like tonight’s show at Massey Hall in Toronto is still on. People around here – some of them well informed – are sure to be talking about this. If I hear anything useful I’ll post it here.

]]> By: Bloodniece http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253499 Bloodniece Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253499 That sucks! Watt's Bass! But I am glad they didn't take Steve McKay's Selmer Mark VI. http://www.radoncollective.org/artists/mackay/upcoming.html That sucks! Watt’s Bass!

But I am glad they didn’t take Steve McKay’s Selmer Mark VI.

http://www.radoncollective.org/artists/mackay/upcoming.html

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-252995 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-252995 passed it on passed it on

]]> By: username http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-252996 username Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-252996 You guys look for the gear, I'm gonna see if I can find Iggy's shirt. On a more serious note, that is a lot of gear to have stolen. I hope against hope that they find it. You guys look for the gear, I’m gonna see if I can find Iggy’s shirt.

On a more serious note, that is a lot of gear to have stolen. I hope against hope that they find it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-252997 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-252997 I'm helping! I'm helping! I’m helping! I’m helping!

]]> By: Jerril http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253009 Jerril Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253009 Agh, stolen off the street in Montreal? I'm torn between being embarrassed for Canada as a nation, and marveling at anyone innocent enough to park on the street in Montreal, AND leave something valuable in the car/van/truck without also leaving an armed guard. (Or leaving a valuable car for that matter) Rental cars and cars with out-of-province license plates are especially targeted, because travelers tend to not know what the car-theft problem in Montreal is like. Agh, stolen off the street in Montreal? I’m torn between being embarrassed for Canada as a nation, and marveling at anyone innocent enough to park on the street in Montreal, AND leave something valuable in the car/van/truck without also leaving an armed guard. (Or leaving a valuable car for that matter)

Rental cars and cars with out-of-province license plates are especially targeted, because travelers tend to not know what the car-theft problem in Montreal is like.

]]> By: Brett Burton http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253784 Brett Burton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253784 @#9. I know other people have already said it, but seriously SHUT UP! I am bored by a lot of the old fogeys still touring, but the Stooges are better than any band of twenty-year-olds that I've ever seen. Iggy is so intense it's scary. Every time I've seen him I've been afraid someone was going to get hurt. When the Stooges played in Harlem last year, audience members were pulling the seats out of the floor and security was freaking out. I hope these guys keep doing this for as long as they can. @#9. I know other people have already said it, but seriously SHUT UP! I am bored by a lot of the old fogeys still touring, but the Stooges are better than any band of twenty-year-olds that I’ve ever seen. Iggy is so intense it’s scary. Every time I’ve seen him I’ve been afraid someone was going to get hurt. When the Stooges played in Harlem last year, audience members were pulling the seats out of the floor and security was freaking out. I hope these guys keep doing this for as long as they can.

]]> By: naharnahekim http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253273 naharnahekim Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253273 "The Violent Femmes... They bring all their equipment on the bus! And you can't fuck with the Violent Femmes! YOU CANNOT FUCK WITH THIS BAND!" “The Violent Femmes… They bring all their equipment on the bus! And you can’t fuck with the Violent Femmes! YOU CANNOT FUCK WITH THIS BAND!”

]]> By: krex http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253022 krex Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253022 damn no one should be able to steal Mike Watt's bass & get away with it. That's just plain wrong. it's also probably really bad karma. I hope whoever did it gets what they have coming. damn no one should be able to steal Mike Watt’s bass & get away with it. That’s just plain wrong.

it’s also probably really bad karma. I hope whoever did it gets what they have coming.

]]> By: Keir http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253031 Keir Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253031 I Steal Alright? We need Law Power! Search And Destroy those low-lifes! Give them danger! Did anyone see who did it? Did you got a TV Eye on them? I Steal Alright? We need Law Power! Search And Destroy those low-lifes! Give them danger!

Did anyone see who did it? Did you got a TV Eye on them?

]]> By: ianm http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253035 ianm Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253035 Take this as a sign to all aging rock 'stars' - RETIRE already! Stooges, Stones, Rush, etc ad nauseum, we are sick of hearing you rehash songs from albums released 25+ yrs ago in a degraded performance with an exceptional amount of wrinkles. Seriously, please stop. Take this as a sign to all aging rock ‘stars’ – RETIRE already! Stooges, Stones, Rush, etc ad nauseum, we are sick of hearing you rehash songs from albums released 25+ yrs ago in a degraded performance with an exceptional amount of wrinkles. Seriously, please stop.

]]> By: Paul Coleman http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253294 Paul Coleman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253294 I stayed in that hotel 3 weeks ago. It was nice and they gave you free drinks every night. Yeah...I'm totally unhelpful. That sucks. I stayed in that hotel 3 weeks ago. It was nice and they gave you free drinks every night.

Yeah…I’m totally unhelpful. That sucks.

]]> By: allan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253043 allan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253043 Dude if a band can afford that much gear, they can afford to get some new gear. I'm more concerned about a band _not on a major label_ that gets their gear stolen while on tour. You know, and their gear list is three items long (guitar, drums, bass). Dude if a band can afford that much gear, they can afford to get some new gear. I’m more concerned about a band _not on a major label_ that gets their gear stolen while on tour. You know, and their gear list is three items long (guitar, drums, bass).

]]> By: Phikus http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253556 Phikus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253556 Every instrument is ever so slightly unique. The playing in breaking in an instrument is absorbed into the grain; the frame; the frets. The rapport built with this thing so that it becomes an extension of you soul: It cannot be replaced exactly. The years it took to make it sound that way. There's a lot of history in a '63 EB-3. Jimi said he was offering up a <i>sacrifice</i> before he lit up that guitar at Monterey (and lit his career.) <i>These guys are real shits!</i> No one deserves to have such things stolen from them, but certainly <i>The Stooges</i> deserve better! Seriously if you are one of the thieves reading this, at least <i>give back the instruments!</i> That said, the <i>Sex Pistols</i> might never have existed if they hadn't ripped off some of Bowie's gear (didn't take instruments, though.) The <i>Grateful Dead</i> had <i>all</i> their gear stolen by drummer Mickey Heart's father, who was also managing the band at the time. Took off for Mexico. (Much of it was later recovered. The treachery nearly broke up the band but instead was immortalized in <a href="http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/gone.html" rel="nofollow"></a>song.)  I've also heard that Todd Rundgren was once tied to a chair while thieves ram-sacked his place, playing <i>"Can We Still Be Friends"</i> over and over. Might be apocrypha. Every instrument is ever so slightly unique. The playing in breaking in an instrument is absorbed into the grain; the frame; the frets. The rapport built with this thing so that it becomes an extension of you soul: It cannot be replaced exactly. The years it took to make it sound that way. There’s a lot of history in a ’63 EB-3. Jimi said he was offering up a sacrifice before he lit up that guitar at Monterey (and lit his career.)

These guys are real shits!

No one deserves to have such things stolen from them, but certainly The Stooges deserve better! Seriously if you are one of the thieves reading this, at least give back the instruments!

That said, the Sex Pistols might never have existed if they hadn’t ripped off some of Bowie’s gear (didn’t take instruments, though.)

The Grateful Dead had all their gear stolen by drummer Mickey Heart’s father, who was also managing the band at the time. Took off for Mexico. (Much of it was later recovered. The treachery nearly broke up the band but instead was immortalized in song.) 

I’ve also heard that Todd Rundgren was once tied to a chair while thieves ram-sacked his place, playing “Can We Still Be Friends” over and over. Might be apocrypha.

]]> By: TheWillow http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253045 TheWillow Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253045 @ #2; yep - though I'm always a little surprised when it happens to acts who should have enough crew to get someone big & burly to stand guard over stuff. @ #2; yep – though I’m always a little surprised when it happens to acts who should have enough crew to get someone big & burly to stand guard over stuff.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253051 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253051 @9 shut up sonny! @9
shut up sonny!

]]> By: aj http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253055 aj Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253055 #9, you're dead wrong. Iggy puts on an AWESOME show. He's old enough to be my dad & I don't care. #9, you’re dead wrong. Iggy puts on an AWESOME show. He’s old enough to be my dad & I don’t care.

]]> By: BritSwedeGuy http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253572 BritSwedeGuy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253572 @IANM Seriously, please stop. Ageist idiot. @IANM
Seriously, please stop.
Ageist idiot.

]]> By: ROSSINDETROIT http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253062 ROSSINDETROIT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253062 The real problem isn't that they'lll never play again without this gear, but that they'll be delayed. It's all replaceable and doesn't appear to include any big PA stuff. Tour schedules do not include extra time to scrounge instruments and the myriad various doodads necessary to go on stage. Even if they could afford to write a check on the spot for new gear it probably can't be rounded up, set up and tested before the next gig. Canceling costs a fortune. This band deserves to succeed. They languished in near obscurity for 30 years while the many acts that they inspired succeeded. People familiar with this tour tell me they're finally being well paid (though not Britney/Celine) level pay. Good luck to them. The real problem isn’t that they’lll never play again without this gear, but that they’ll be delayed. It’s all replaceable and doesn’t appear to include any big PA stuff. Tour schedules do not include extra time to scrounge instruments and the myriad various doodads necessary to go on stage. Even if they could afford to write a check on the spot for new gear it probably can’t be rounded up, set up and tested before the next gig. Canceling costs a fortune.
This band deserves to succeed. They languished in near obscurity for 30 years while the many acts that they inspired succeeded. People familiar with this tour tell me they’re finally being well paid (though not Britney/Celine) level pay.
Good luck to them.

]]> By: bobkat http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253322 bobkat Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253322 Yeah, it sucks. However, one of my friends just got all his music gear, laptop, etc. stolen FROM HIS HOUSE last night. Does he get a big blog entry too? He didn't write Lust for Life, but then again, he didn't license it to Carnival Cruise Lines either. Yeah, it sucks. However, one of my friends just got all his music gear, laptop, etc. stolen FROM HIS HOUSE last night. Does he get a big blog entry too? He didn’t write Lust for Life, but then again, he didn’t license it to Carnival Cruise Lines either.

]]> By: g.park http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253075 g.park Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253075 @10 - Try again. This list is VERY conservative, and not much longer or more high-end than your average amateur gigging band. Any band that takes themselves seriously invests in quality equipment and backups for said equipment. Also note how the band's traveling in a rented Penske truck, and have hotel accomodations no better than most business travelers. Arena Rock fat cats these are not. And for the record, nobody has more indie cred than Iggy, least of all you- unless you're Greg Ginn, and I don't think you're Greg Ginn. @10 –

Try again. This list is VERY conservative, and not much longer or more high-end than your average amateur gigging band. Any band that takes themselves seriously invests in quality equipment and backups for said equipment. Also note how the band’s traveling in a rented Penske truck, and have hotel accomodations no better than most business travelers. Arena Rock fat cats these are not.

And for the record, nobody has more indie cred than Iggy, least of all you- unless you’re Greg Ginn, and I don’t think you’re Greg Ginn.

]]> By: Sam http://boingboing.net/2008/08/05/iggy-and-the-stooges-1.html#comment-253095 Sam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-253095 I'll buy that bass cab for discount, no questions asked. ;) I’ll buy that bass cab for discount, no questions asked. ;)

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