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	<title>Comments on: RIAA has to pay $107,951 for court costs in failed suit against disabled single&#160;mom</title>
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		<title>By: jancola</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261124</link>
		<dc:creator>jancola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is curious to me is how the RIAA picks its targets to sue... possibly out of a hat.  There are millions of people downloading music who aren&#039;t being sued.  Why did they single out a disabled single mother?  They couldn&#039;t find anyone less sympathetic?

TMF: A link in the comments says they have already paid:
http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-pays-up-in-anderson-case-080814/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is curious to me is how the RIAA picks its targets to sue&#8230; possibly out of a hat.  There are millions of people downloading music who aren&#8217;t being sued.  Why did they single out a disabled single mother?  They couldn&#8217;t find anyone less sympathetic?</p>
<p>TMF: A link in the comments says they have already paid:<br />
<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-pays-up-in-anderson-case-080814/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-pays-up-in-anderson-case-080814/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261127</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something about systematic abuse of process, but i&#039;m probably wrong...you know the Third branch can be more unpredictable than the Congress and Executive. That&#039;s why they&#039;re independent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something about systematic abuse of process, but i&#8217;m probably wrong&#8230;you know the Third branch can be more unpredictable than the Congress and Executive. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re independent.</p>
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		<title>By: hagbard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261132</link>
		<dc:creator>hagbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may in fact hurt the music industry as we know it, but will it hurt or help music?  Culture in general? 

It only costs big bucks to produce new music the way the recording industry does it now.  Meanwhile, my friend has created a professional grade music studio in his garage and has produced CDs for several local bands.

The music industry as we know it does not so much provide us with music as limit our choices so as to concentrate popularity and thus earning potential in a relatively small percentage of the musically-inclined population.   

Is it any wonder they turn to choice-limiting as a strategy for dealing with their problems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may in fact hurt the music industry as we know it, but will it hurt or help music?  Culture in general? </p>
<p>It only costs big bucks to produce new music the way the recording industry does it now.  Meanwhile, my friend has created a professional grade music studio in his garage and has produced CDs for several local bands.</p>
<p>The music industry as we know it does not so much provide us with music as limit our choices so as to concentrate popularity and thus earning potential in a relatively small percentage of the musically-inclined population.   </p>
<p>Is it any wonder they turn to choice-limiting as a strategy for dealing with their problems?</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261133</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry not &quot;unpredictable&quot; I meant &quot;just&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry not &#8220;unpredictable&#8221; I meant &#8220;just&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: themindfantastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261137</link>
		<dc:creator>themindfantastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21 JUSTAVOICE: Producing Music has never been cheaper, marketing music has never been cheaper, distributing music has NEVER BEEN CHEAPER. Its a new playing field.  The problem now becomes how to get yourself NOTICED in the ever growing field of musical acts.  Because as it gets cheaper more and more people get into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21 JUSTAVOICE: Producing Music has never been cheaper, marketing music has never been cheaper, distributing music has NEVER BEEN CHEAPER. Its a new playing field.  The problem now becomes how to get yourself NOTICED in the ever growing field of musical acts.  Because as it gets cheaper more and more people get into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261398</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heartily recommend setting up an online donation web site to support this woman&#039;s countersuit. She&#039;s doing everyone a favor.</description>
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		<title>By: John Coulthart</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261403</link>
		<dc:creator>John Coulthart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phikus: The Lemon Kittens&#039; album &lt;em&gt;We Buy A Hammer For Daddy&lt;/em&gt; (they always had great titles!) was released on the wonderful United Dairies label, one of the first wave of UK independent labels formed in opposition and as an alternative to the majors. UD released some major slabs of utter weirdness that never would have been allowed through the door of a major label. I doubt UD owner Steve Stapleton (of Nurse With Wound) has ever had much time for the BPI, the UK equivalent of the RIAA, and inventors of the fatuous &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Home taping is killing music&lt;/a&gt;&quot; campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phikus: The Lemon Kittens&#8217; album <em>We Buy A Hammer For Daddy</em> (they always had great titles!) was released on the wonderful United Dairies label, one of the first wave of UK independent labels formed in opposition and as an alternative to the majors. UD released some major slabs of utter weirdness that never would have been allowed through the door of a major label. I doubt UD owner Steve Stapleton (of Nurse With Wound) has ever had much time for the BPI, the UK equivalent of the RIAA, and inventors of the fatuous &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music" rel="nofollow">Home taping is killing music</a>&#8221; campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: SeamusAndrewMurphy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261404</link>
		<dc:creator>SeamusAndrewMurphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoorah for Hagbard&#039;s #73 comment. 

It is always the existence of alternatives that frighten those in control.  Extrapolate that to infinite examples in life and business.  It&#039;s a point that can&#039;t be overemphasized. As a matter of fact, you&#039;ve just thrown light on our entire economic legal and regulatory system. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoorah for Hagbard&#8217;s #73 comment. </p>
<p>It is always the existence of alternatives that frighten those in control.  Extrapolate that to infinite examples in life and business.  It&#8217;s a point that can&#8217;t be overemphasized. As a matter of fact, you&#8217;ve just thrown light on our entire economic legal and regulatory system. </p>
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		<title>By: Justavoice</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261150</link>
		<dc:creator>Justavoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a resolution to music file &quot;sharing&quot;. The music industry should set limits on how soon a customer can legally &quot;share&quot; their copyrighted material. For instance if they release a new album they could set a time limit of 60 to 90 days for exclusive rights and then allow the population at large to share it freely. Most profit from a new release is made within the first 2-3 months of release and drastically drops after that. The only problem I could potentially see with this is that people will just wait the required time before they could legally get it for free... Comments, problems with this idea? Let me hear them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a resolution to music file &#8220;sharing&#8221;. The music industry should set limits on how soon a customer can legally &#8220;share&#8221; their copyrighted material. For instance if they release a new album they could set a time limit of 60 to 90 days for exclusive rights and then allow the population at large to share it freely. Most profit from a new release is made within the first 2-3 months of release and drastically drops after that. The only problem I could potentially see with this is that people will just wait the required time before they could legally get it for free&#8230; Comments, problems with this idea? Let me hear them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justavoice</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261155</link>
		<dc:creator>Justavoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27 THEMINDFANTASTIC: To get &quot;noticed&quot; by the country or the world it costs A LOT of money for marketing. Where does this money come from? The Record Labels...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27 THEMINDFANTASTIC: To get &#8220;noticed&#8221; by the country or the world it costs A LOT of money for marketing. Where does this money come from? The Record Labels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261156</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind Fantastic, that has always been the problem. Even if you&#039;re backed by Madison Ave&#039;s full court press(which itself pushes up costs cause these buyers dont come cheap).The old problem was having the time to pay, the leisure to enjoy, the money to ease, the &quot;consumption&quot; of music...there&#039;s always been a surfeit of music itself, cause people have always loved music.
There have and as far as I can see there will always be professional musiciansand players as well...there might just be less of an &quot;industry&quot; of nebulous hangers-on than there used to be .Or perhaps a different type of hangers-on (perhaps those more technically adept, tho the musicians I&#039;ve known are pretty &quot;technically adept&quot; themselves with their instruments). But the &quot;recorded music industry&quot; per se must change with the technical means of production, just like everybody else does.
And I&#039;m no Marxist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind Fantastic, that has always been the problem. Even if you&#8217;re backed by Madison Ave&#8217;s full court press(which itself pushes up costs cause these buyers dont come cheap).The old problem was having the time to pay, the leisure to enjoy, the money to ease, the &#8220;consumption&#8221; of music&#8230;there&#8217;s always been a surfeit of music itself, cause people have always loved music.<br />
There have and as far as I can see there will always be professional musiciansand players as well&#8230;there might just be less of an &#8220;industry&#8221; of nebulous hangers-on than there used to be .Or perhaps a different type of hangers-on (perhaps those more technically adept, tho the musicians I&#8217;ve known are pretty &#8220;technically adept&#8221; themselves with their instruments). But the &#8220;recorded music industry&#8221; per se must change with the technical means of production, just like everybody else does.<br />
And I&#8217;m no Marxist.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261158</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;To get &quot;noticed&quot; by the country or the world it costs A LOT of money for marketing.&lt;/i&gt;

Have you never hear of something called &quot;viral marketing&quot;? If your goal is to make music and make a decent living, you can do it yourself thanks to this whole internet &lt;i&gt;thing&lt;/i&gt;. If your goal is to make millions, have a posse, do the talk shows and make some bad movies, you need industry money. Of course, you&#039;ll have to sell your soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>To get &#8220;noticed&#8221; by the country or the world it costs A LOT of money for marketing.</i></p>
<p>Have you never hear of something called &#8220;viral marketing&#8221;? If your goal is to make music and make a decent living, you can do it yourself thanks to this whole internet <i>thing</i>. If your goal is to make millions, have a posse, do the talk shows and make some bad movies, you need industry money. Of course, you&#8217;ll have to sell your soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Phikus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261419</link>
		<dc:creator>Phikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOHN@82:  Good to know.  Still not available in the US unless you can get someone to special order it as an import (I have had no such luck for a lot of effort on this end.)  It was that album and &lt;i&gt;Big Dentist&lt;/i&gt; that I finally got ahold of through the torrents, featuring their standout cut &lt;i&gt;&quot;Nudies&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.  I will gladly re-buy both if they become available in the US, to support their releases here.  The fact they are re-releasing LK in the UK gives me hope this may happen.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOHN@82:  Good to know.  Still not available in the US unless you can get someone to special order it as an import (I have had no such luck for a lot of effort on this end.)  It was that album and <i>Big Dentist</i> that I finally got ahold of through the torrents, featuring their standout cut <i>&#8220;Nudies&#8221;</i>.  I will gladly re-buy both if they become available in the US, to support their releases here.  The fact they are re-releasing LK in the UK gives me hope this may happen.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary61</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261167</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with #27 TMF about:
&quot;&lt;i&gt;It costs big bucks to produce new music.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;
No, it doesn&#039;t, like TMF says.

&lt;b&gt;&#039;Produce&#039;&lt;/b&gt; usually means some industry guy sitting in the mixer room, helping the recording engineer tweak the sounds. Perhaps putting up the bucks behind the scenes for studio time, PR flacks, promos, filming (what an archaic word) the videos, etc.

My band (see the link on my profile page) has used our own PA gear, a 2nd-hand Dell desktop, and various bits of audio software to record, mix, produce, and convert (to audio or MP3 files) songs we&#039;ve done.

Out of pocket expenses? None. Just time and effort.

Cost of all the gear? Considerable (guitars, microphones, mixers, amps, cabling, drumkit, etc. etc.)
But considering we had pretty much all of that gear anyways (to play gigs), the extra expense was minimal indeed.
And we tweaked the sound until we got what WE wanted - not what some industry guy thought would sell (and generate profits).

As TMF says, the prob now is getting people to notice YOU and your band, above the rising tide of others doing the same thing ....

However, JustAVoice, I don&#039;t agree that it&#039;ll &#039;&lt;i&gt;hurt the music industry in the long run&lt;/i&gt;&#039; - what it can and WILL do is make them change their business model, to change with changing times. They ARE still the best at promotion, etc., etc., but the &#039;recording infrastructure&#039; they have is largely going to gradually shrink and fade away. 

Van Halen, Jethro Tull (among countless others) have used their own profits from their music to build their own custom recording studios on their own property - so they can bypass the whole &#039;industry&#039; issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with #27 TMF about:<br />
&#8220;<i>It costs big bucks to produce new music.</i>&#8221;<br />
No, it doesn&#8217;t, like TMF says.</p>
<p><b>&#8216;Produce&#8217;</b> usually means some industry guy sitting in the mixer room, helping the recording engineer tweak the sounds. Perhaps putting up the bucks behind the scenes for studio time, PR flacks, promos, filming (what an archaic word) the videos, etc.</p>
<p>My band (see the link on my profile page) has used our own PA gear, a 2nd-hand Dell desktop, and various bits of audio software to record, mix, produce, and convert (to audio or MP3 files) songs we&#8217;ve done.</p>
<p>Out of pocket expenses? None. Just time and effort.</p>
<p>Cost of all the gear? Considerable (guitars, microphones, mixers, amps, cabling, drumkit, etc. etc.)<br />
But considering we had pretty much all of that gear anyways (to play gigs), the extra expense was minimal indeed.<br />
And we tweaked the sound until we got what WE wanted &#8211; not what some industry guy thought would sell (and generate profits).</p>
<p>As TMF says, the prob now is getting people to notice YOU and your band, above the rising tide of others doing the same thing &#8230;.</p>
<p>However, JustAVoice, I don&#8217;t agree that it&#8217;ll &#8216;<i>hurt the music industry in the long run</i>&#8216; &#8211; what it can and WILL do is make them change their business model, to change with changing times. They ARE still the best at promotion, etc., etc., but the &#8216;recording infrastructure&#8217; they have is largely going to gradually shrink and fade away. </p>
<p>Van Halen, Jethro Tull (among countless others) have used their own profits from their music to build their own custom recording studios on their own property &#8211; so they can bypass the whole &#8216;industry&#8217; issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Justavoice</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261168</link>
		<dc:creator>Justavoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The music industry is a business. Analogy: If I could go into a Burger King and buy one burger but get infinite burgers for the cost of just one, Burger King would go out of business. This rule applies to the music industry as well, if I bought just one CD and put the music on the internet for the whole world to &quot;share&quot; freely, why would anyone else need to buy the CD? Why would the record labels keep producing quality music if they weren&#039;t making profit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music industry is a business. Analogy: If I could go into a Burger King and buy one burger but get infinite burgers for the cost of just one, Burger King would go out of business. This rule applies to the music industry as well, if I bought just one CD and put the music on the internet for the whole world to &#8220;share&#8221; freely, why would anyone else need to buy the CD? Why would the record labels keep producing quality music if they weren&#8217;t making profit?</p>
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		<title>By: Justavoice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justavoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@31 Antinous: Viral marketing works for us nerds who have nothing better to do that surf around in dive websites all day, but what about the casual surfer? They may never see these things because they weren&#039;t placed in areas of the web to generate enough buzz to be noticed. Marketing is most effective, at least for the time being, when it is force feed to the masses through mainstream media outlets. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@31 Antinous: Viral marketing works for us nerds who have nothing better to do that surf around in dive websites all day, but what about the casual surfer? They may never see these things because they weren&#8217;t placed in areas of the web to generate enough buzz to be noticed. Marketing is most effective, at least for the time being, when it is force feed to the masses through mainstream media outlets. </p>
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		<title>By: hagbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>hagbard</dc:creator>
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		<description>The music industry is a bunch of businesses, not one business, and some of those businesses are being undercut by smaller, newer businesses which are taking advantage of reduced production and transaction costs.

As the cost of making and distributing quality music drops, I think people are going to have to realign their expectations of what constitutes success. 

Does &quot;getting noticed&quot; continue to mean being as famous and well-paid as Metallica, or does it mean getting gigs and having your songs sell on the iTunes store? If the music industry stop producing stars, does that mean the music industry is hurting, or that a few hyped-up musicians are no longer sucking up all the oxygen in the room?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music industry is a bunch of businesses, not one business, and some of those businesses are being undercut by smaller, newer businesses which are taking advantage of reduced production and transaction costs.</p>
<p>As the cost of making and distributing quality music drops, I think people are going to have to realign their expectations of what constitutes success. </p>
<p>Does &#8220;getting noticed&#8221; continue to mean being as famous and well-paid as Metallica, or does it mean getting gigs and having your songs sell on the iTunes store? If the music industry stop producing stars, does that mean the music industry is hurting, or that a few hyped-up musicians are no longer sucking up all the oxygen in the room?</p>
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		<title>By: Justavoice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justavoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@32 Gary 61: VanHalen, Jethro Tull, etc. etc. used money they earned through years of having their music produced and promoted through their record labels. They also don&#039;t have the ability to make sure their music reaches the masses without the help of their record label. So although most any artist can create and produce their own music, having it heard by the populous at large remains a task they will not be able to overcome on their own. If anything, in this case, the two bands listed above used their record labels as a stepping stone to get where they are today. The fact remains they still at some point NEEDED a record label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@32 Gary 61: VanHalen, Jethro Tull, etc. etc. used money they earned through years of having their music produced and promoted through their record labels. They also don&#8217;t have the ability to make sure their music reaches the masses without the help of their record label. So although most any artist can create and produce their own music, having it heard by the populous at large remains a task they will not be able to overcome on their own. If anything, in this case, the two bands listed above used their record labels as a stepping stone to get where they are today. The fact remains they still at some point NEEDED a record label.</p>
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		<title>By: Piper</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261185</link>
		<dc:creator>Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ justavoice-
   Your Burger King example might seem a logical comparison, but it has not been the case with music and file sharing. For whatever reason, not everyone wants an infinite &quot;free burger&quot;. I have no footnotes to back it up, but from what I have read on the subject the reality is quite the contrary --music sales have actually increased in the era of file sharing. 
  All of these arguments in support of DRM are throwbacks to previous eras of technological change. Like musician&#039;s unions freaking out because the player piano would put them out on the street forever.
   Did you ever make anyone a mix tape?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ justavoice-<br />
   Your Burger King example might seem a logical comparison, but it has not been the case with music and file sharing. For whatever reason, not everyone wants an infinite &#8220;free burger&#8221;. I have no footnotes to back it up, but from what I have read on the subject the reality is quite the contrary &#8211;music sales have actually increased in the era of file sharing.<br />
  All of these arguments in support of DRM are throwbacks to previous eras of technological change. Like musician&#8217;s unions freaking out because the player piano would put them out on the street forever.<br />
   Did you ever make anyone a mix tape?</p>
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		<title>By: Justavoice</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261192</link>
		<dc:creator>Justavoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@35 Hagbard: Why buy some new up and comer&#039;s music when I can get it for free through file &quot;sharing&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@35 Hagbard: Why buy some new up and comer&#8217;s music when I can get it for free through file &#8220;sharing&#8221;? </p>
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		<title>By: mdhatter</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261194</link>
		<dc:creator>mdhatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jethro Tull basically started their own label, (their friends Chris X and Y Ellis did so, thus - Chrysalis). No idea about VH. 

FYI - Ian Anderson now owns most of the Salmon in Scotland (and large chunks of their habitat, as well). So whenever you eat Scottish salmon, think of Jethro Tull. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jethro Tull basically started their own label, (their friends Chris X and Y Ellis did so, thus &#8211; Chrysalis). No idea about VH. </p>
<p>FYI &#8211; Ian Anderson now owns most of the Salmon in Scotland (and large chunks of their habitat, as well). So whenever you eat Scottish salmon, think of Jethro Tull. </p>
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		<title>By: hagbard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261196</link>
		<dc:creator>hagbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justavoice

because you want to see the new up and comer succeed so that she will create more music that you like?

because you are grateful for such creativity and beauty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justavoice</p>
<p>because you want to see the new up and comer succeed so that she will create more music that you like?</p>
<p>because you are grateful for such creativity and beauty?</p>
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		<title>By: Justavoice</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261198</link>
		<dc:creator>Justavoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@40 Hagbard: How will I know she ever existed?</description>
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		<title>By: someToast</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-262226</link>
		<dc:creator>someToast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Whats funny to me is that no money is actually being lost, just shifted around. So in order for me to download allegedly *smirk* tons of music I would need a bigger hard drive, a new MP3 player, my PS3 to listen to it on ...yada yada yada. So in reality its not that the music is free, I&#039;m still paying for it even if the actual music itself is.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The musicians aren&#039;t getting money from your purchasing hard drives, PS3s, and mp3 players (well, unless it&#039;s a Zune, and even then...)

By that logic, you&#039;re entitled to &quot;free&quot; copies of Photoshop since you already put your money into a computer and hard drives.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I mean seriously why do you need a 8 gig music player if you are buying all of your music. This would be over 2k songs assuming 3-5 megs per song. That means someone spends $2,000 dollars on music alone to legally fill this (assuming .99 a song).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve 24,558 songs on my iPod now. Most are from my own CDs, a small fraction from the Amazon MP3 Store, and an even smaller fraction from iTunes. I consider it a good use of my discretionary entertainment budget over the course of 23 years.

So yes, sometimes you seriously need an 8 gig music player if you are buying all of your music. Sometimes you need a 160 gig one.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Whats funny to me is that no money is actually being lost, just shifted around. So in order for me to download allegedly *smirk* tons of music I would need a bigger hard drive, a new MP3 player, my PS3 to listen to it on &#8230;yada yada yada. So in reality its not that the music is free, I&#8217;m still paying for it even if the actual music itself is.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>The musicians aren&#8217;t getting money from your purchasing hard drives, PS3s, and mp3 players (well, unless it&#8217;s a Zune, and even then&#8230;)</p>
<p>By that logic, you&#8217;re entitled to &#8220;free&#8221; copies of Photoshop since you already put your money into a computer and hard drives.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>I mean seriously why do you need a 8 gig music player if you are buying all of your music. This would be over 2k songs assuming 3-5 megs per song. That means someone spends $2,000 dollars on music alone to legally fill this (assuming .99 a song).</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve 24,558 songs on my iPod now. Most are from my own CDs, a small fraction from the Amazon MP3 Store, and an even smaller fraction from iTunes. I consider it a good use of my discretionary entertainment budget over the course of 23 years.</p>
<p>So yes, sometimes you seriously need an 8 gig music player if you are buying all of your music. Sometimes you need a 160 gig one.</p>
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		<title>By: hagbard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261202</link>
		<dc:creator>hagbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because the price was right and not too onerous?

because you feel confident that the money will go to the artist and not to lawyers and MBAs and marketing execs and DRM designers and lobbyists?

because you are honest?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because the price was right and not too onerous?</p>
<p>because you feel confident that the money will go to the artist and not to lawyers and MBAs and marketing execs and DRM designers and lobbyists?</p>
<p>because you are honest?</p>
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		<title>By: Phikus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261207</link>
		<dc:creator>Phikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time their thoughtless schemes backfired!  This is a major victory for people being victimized by a huge bloated greedy monster of an industry. And I am saying this as a musician:  File sharing doesn&#039;t kill music. The &quot;industry&quot; simply needs to evolve to suit the digital marketplace.  Do you know how little $ trickles down to the artist on anything a major label puts out?  Please!

Did Radiohead lose money for putting &lt;i&gt;In Rainbows&lt;/i&gt; up for whatever people wanted to pay them?  No.  More and more artists are offering up their works this way.  Nine Inch Nail&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Slip&lt;/i&gt; was offered up as a free download, and it sounds like the forthcoming Eno / Byrne album will adopt this model as well.  People who are smart in the industry have realized that if you simply offer more production value in the physical product, people will buy it.  Offering up free downloads ensures there will be a great deal of &lt;i&gt;buzz&lt;/i&gt; generated about new works.  I downloaded &lt;i&gt;In Rainbows&lt;/i&gt; for free, and then, as soon as it became available in stores, I bought a hard copy, not only to support a band I love and their strategy of making it available originally for free, but also because it is a higher quality recording on the CD vs the MP3s, and has a cool cover and enclosed stickers, etc. which now are emblazoned on my car.  

If the Music Industry wants to continue to get away with low or no production value in their hard copies they offer, they deserve to have the music ripped and shared with reckless abandon.  If they enclose a cool booklet with artwork, photos, lyrics etc.  people will buy it if they like the artist, plain and simple.  -Not to mention that most people can&#039;t be bothered to download and burn their own CD.  Please stop echoing the whining of this culture and soul eating dinosaur!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time their thoughtless schemes backfired!  This is a major victory for people being victimized by a huge bloated greedy monster of an industry. And I am saying this as a musician:  File sharing doesn&#8217;t kill music. The &#8220;industry&#8221; simply needs to evolve to suit the digital marketplace.  Do you know how little $ trickles down to the artist on anything a major label puts out?  Please!</p>
<p>Did Radiohead lose money for putting <i>In Rainbows</i> up for whatever people wanted to pay them?  No.  More and more artists are offering up their works this way.  Nine Inch Nail&#8217;s <i>The Slip</i> was offered up as a free download, and it sounds like the forthcoming Eno / Byrne album will adopt this model as well.  People who are smart in the industry have realized that if you simply offer more production value in the physical product, people will buy it.  Offering up free downloads ensures there will be a great deal of <i>buzz</i> generated about new works.  I downloaded <i>In Rainbows</i> for free, and then, as soon as it became available in stores, I bought a hard copy, not only to support a band I love and their strategy of making it available originally for free, but also because it is a higher quality recording on the CD vs the MP3s, and has a cool cover and enclosed stickers, etc. which now are emblazoned on my car.  </p>
<p>If the Music Industry wants to continue to get away with low or no production value in their hard copies they offer, they deserve to have the music ripped and shared with reckless abandon.  If they enclose a cool booklet with artwork, photos, lyrics etc.  people will buy it if they like the artist, plain and simple.  -Not to mention that most people can&#8217;t be bothered to download and burn their own CD.  Please stop echoing the whining of this culture and soul eating dinosaur!</p>
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		<title>By: hagbard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261210</link>
		<dc:creator>hagbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justavoice

Because someone, maybe the artist herself, shares some of her music with you?</description>
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<p>Because someone, maybe the artist herself, shares some of her music with you?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261215</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justavoice,

You&#039;re starting to sound like a broken record.

Thank you very much. Don&#039;t forget to tip your waitress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justavoice,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re starting to sound like a broken record.</p>
<p>Thank you very much. Don&#8217;t forget to tip your waitress.</p>
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		<title>By: Piper</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261220</link>
		<dc:creator>Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ justavoice--
  You seem very hung up on the idea that free=better. Try to understand that not everyone sees music as a mere document that you try to steal whenever possible. There are many reasons that people buy things that they could potentially steal, and maybe this is why filesharing has not destroyed the world and everything in it. 
  I like buying something physical most of the time. I get some things on ITunes, but in contrast it offers none of the joy of unwrapping an LP. I&#039;ve never even thought about filesharing, just because it&#039;s not something I&#039;m into, and because I like supporting artists in their endeavors. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ justavoice&#8211;<br />
  You seem very hung up on the idea that free=better. Try to understand that not everyone sees music as a mere document that you try to steal whenever possible. There are many reasons that people buy things that they could potentially steal, and maybe this is why filesharing has not destroyed the world and everything in it.<br />
  I like buying something physical most of the time. I get some things on ITunes, but in contrast it offers none of the joy of unwrapping an LP. I&#8217;ve never even thought about filesharing, just because it&#8217;s not something I&#8217;m into, and because I like supporting artists in their endeavors. </p>
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		<title>By: takeshi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/15/riaa-has-to-pay-1079.html#comment-261476</link>
		<dc:creator>takeshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, some justice.  The fact that she won will no doubt help her along in her lawsuit.  Best of luck to the Tanya Andersons of the world.  </description>
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