Comments on: Printcrime in Filipino and European Portuguese http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 18:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: wringz http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-267060 wringz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-267060 his tagalog translation is too passive-voiced. i'd take a shot at it but i'm too lazy :P and don't even get me started on this filipino/tagalog debacle. his tagalog translation is too passive-voiced. i’d take a shot at it but i’m too lazy :P and don’t even get me started on this filipino/tagalog debacle.

]]> By: Clumpy http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-267077 Clumpy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-267077 Well, whether it's correct or not, "Filipino" is used colloquially to refer main to Tagalog since it's the most-spoken dialect in the Philippines. Then again, it's not nearly widespread enough to warrant the name, so it's easier to take the wishy-washy route and try not to think too much about it. The Tag translation looks good to me, and it's certainly simple enough for us casual speakers in the city. Still, it had me going for a dictionary to look up "ngisi". Turns out it's a word and not just a typo of "ngiti". Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna blast me some Eraserheads. Well, whether it’s correct or not, “Filipino” is used colloquially to refer main to Tagalog since it’s the most-spoken dialect in the Philippines. Then again, it’s not nearly widespread enough to warrant the name, so it’s easier to take the wishy-washy route and try not to think too much about it.

The Tag translation looks good to me, and it’s certainly simple enough for us casual speakers in the city. Still, it had me going for a dictionary to look up “ngisi”. Turns out it’s a word and not just a typo of “ngiti”. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m gonna blast me some Eraserheads.

]]> By: pageman http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-267083 pageman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-267083 to #14 - thanks for reading it and even looking up "ngisi" hahaha - after you listened to Eraserheads why don't you try to give Filipino triphop/drum & bass and electronica a try? Check out Drip, it's the first Filipino band that has released a FULL album under a CREATIVE COMMONS license (by-nc-sa) :) I'm sure Cory "The Copyfighter" Doctorow would approve. ref: http://dripmanila.multiply.com/music to #14 – thanks for reading it and even looking up “ngisi” hahaha – after you listened to Eraserheads why don’t you try to give Filipino triphop/drum & bass and electronica a try? Check out Drip, it’s the first Filipino band that has released a FULL album under a CREATIVE COMMONS license (by-nc-sa) :) I’m sure Cory “The Copyfighter” Doctorow would approve.

ref: http://dripmanila.multiply.com/music

]]> By: Zergonapal http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-267099 Zergonapal Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-267099 If I was the Chinese goverment I would've put them on a plane the same day I arrested them. Drawing it out like this has not served the goverment well and has done more to highlight their poor human rights record than any number of LED protest stunts. If I was the Chinese goverment I would’ve put them on a plane the same day I arrested them. Drawing it out like this has not served the goverment well and has done more to highlight their poor human rights record than any number of LED protest stunts.

]]> By: nanay lee http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266868 nanay lee Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266868 Cory, I congratulate Paul Pajo for his translation effort. Although, I found a lot of errors in his work. I'll try to translate it or better yet, I'll ask an English-Filipino translator I personally know to do it. You don't have to post it if you don't want to, I just want you to have another translation version, one that I am confident to share with you. Cory,
I congratulate Paul Pajo for his translation effort. Although, I found a lot of errors in his work. I’ll try to translate it or better yet, I’ll ask an English-Filipino translator I personally know to do it. You don’t have to post it if you don’t want to, I just want you to have another translation version, one that I am confident to share with you.

]]> By: Fish http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266921 Fish Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266921 Tagalog is spoken in the Philippines. Tagalog is spoken in the Philippines.

]]> By: Juniper http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266931 Juniper Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266931 Several languages are spoken in the Philippines, not just Tagalog. (My family there speaks Ilocano.) But "Filipino" is a nationality or an ethnicity, not a language. Congrats, though! It's exciting to know that your work is being read around the world. Several languages are spoken in the Philippines, not just Tagalog. (My family there speaks Ilocano.) But “Filipino” is a nationality or an ethnicity, not a language.

Congrats, though! It’s exciting to know that your work is being read around the world.

]]> By: Pendrift http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266936 Pendrift Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266936 Nice to see fans translating Printcrime into their respective languages! Filipino IS the national language of the Philippines, although it's largely based on Tagalog - check out the National Commission on the Filipino Language (Komisyon sa Wikang Filipino). The country has over a hundred languages and dialects, though - not surprising for an archipelago with over 7,100 islands. Indonesia has even more (languages and islands, that is!) Nice to see fans translating Printcrime into their respective languages!

Filipino IS the national language of the Philippines, although it’s largely based on Tagalog – check out the National Commission on the Filipino Language (Komisyon sa Wikang Filipino). The country has over a hundred languages and dialects, though – not surprising for an archipelago with over 7,100 islands. Indonesia has even more (languages and islands, that is!)

]]> By: sicklecell http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266940 sicklecell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266940 thats really exciting! thats really exciting!

]]> By: Clumpy http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-268736 Clumpy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-268736 I'll check them out, Pageman. I love the mainstream groups as much as anybody (and I'm a sucker for anything attached to Dong Abay), but it's nice to support an OPM group that isn't schilling for Pepsi. I’ll check them out, Pageman. I love the mainstream groups as much as anybody (and I’m a sucker for anything attached to Dong Abay), but it’s nice to support an OPM group that isn’t schilling for Pepsi.

]]> By: bollocks http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266945 bollocks Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266945 'european portugese'... is it just me, or is this really redundant? ‘european portugese’… is it just me, or is this really redundant?

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266946 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266946 Brazilan Portuguese. Brazilan Portuguese.

]]> By: carlnen http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266947 carlnen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266947 Replying to: "'european portugese'... is it just me, or is this really redundant?" Not redundant at all. See: http://www.necco.ca/faq_european_brazilian_port.htm Replying to: “‘european portugese’… is it just me, or is this really redundant?”

Not redundant at all. See: http://www.necco.ca/faq_european_brazilian_port.htm

]]> By: xxxxxx http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266950 xxxxxx Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266950 I think my local community college offers "Filipino" classes. I think my local community college offers “Filipino” classes.

]]> By: pageman http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266959 pageman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266959 Hi Cory, Thanks for the shout-out. I've corrected some of the errors - I was doing the translation in the wee hours. Filipino IS the national language in the Philippines. According to Ethnologue, it's "based on Tagalog with the inclusion of terms from other regional languages". It's easier for me to translate into Filipino than into pure Tagalog as that would have necessitated some neologistic acrobatics on my part. rgds, Paul "The Pageman" Pajo. ref: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=fil Hi Cory,

Thanks for the shout-out. I’ve corrected some of the errors – I was doing the translation in the wee hours. Filipino IS the national language in the Philippines. According to Ethnologue, it’s “based on Tagalog with the inclusion of terms from other regional languages”. It’s easier for me to translate into Filipino than into pure Tagalog as that would have necessitated some neologistic acrobatics on my part.

rgds,

Paul “The Pageman” Pajo.

ref: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=fil

]]> By: bollocks http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266974 bollocks Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266974 #7 & #8: i am well aware that portugese is spoken in both portugal and brazil... but my point is that it should be portugese and brazillian portugese, not this nonsense. #7 & #8:
i am well aware that portugese is spoken in both portugal and brazil… but my point is that it should be portugese and brazillian portugese, not this nonsense.

]]> By: carlnen http://boingboing.net/2008/08/24/printcrime-in-filipi.html#comment-266996 carlnen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-266996 #11 I understand. But I'm Portuguese and I think that Brazil has earned its right a long time ago to be recognized as having a culture and language dynamics all of their own. I don't mind speaking "European" Portuguese - because that's what it is, really. Suppose every Portuguese person would vanish from the face of the Earth (not a long time to wait given our current birth rate), what would Brazilians speak then? :) #11

I understand. But I’m Portuguese and I think that Brazil has earned its right a long time ago to be recognized as having a culture and language dynamics all of their own. I don’t mind speaking “European” Portuguese – because that’s what it is, really. Suppose every Portuguese person would vanish from the face of the Earth (not a long time to wait given our current birth rate), what would Brazilians speak then? :)

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