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	<title>Comments on: Ethan Persoff&#039;s coverage of the Democratic National Convention riot&#160;cops</title>
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		<title>By: catbeller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268294</link>
		<dc:creator>catbeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In wartimes, civilians have often been shot by mistake simply because they were running and never with rubber bullets. &quot;

This is not wartime.
Cops ARE civilians. Cops are not soldiers. Who would the enemy be?
Cops exist to protect people, not protect themselves from people. 
A soldier defends himself and his mission against all threats. A cop defends the people, and expends himself if need be.
Cops are not an army in occupation against an enemy - us.

Americans have accepted the idea that they are at war with liberals, and that the occasional beating or death is fun and fully warranted. 

&quot;The United States of America has Gone Insane&quot;. Indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In wartimes, civilians have often been shot by mistake simply because they were running and never with rubber bullets. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is not wartime.<br />
Cops ARE civilians. Cops are not soldiers. Who would the enemy be?<br />
Cops exist to protect people, not protect themselves from people.<br />
A soldier defends himself and his mission against all threats. A cop defends the people, and expends himself if need be.<br />
Cops are not an army in occupation against an enemy &#8211; us.</p>
<p>Americans have accepted the idea that they are at war with liberals, and that the occasional beating or death is fun and fully warranted. </p>
<p>&#8220;The United States of America has Gone Insane&#8221;. Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268296</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some of the cops enjoy smashing the skulls of other humans. Some of them go along to keep their jobs. Some of them are scared shitless and smash skulls because they think their skull might be next. In any case, anyone wearing riot armour is going to smash in skulls. That is what they are for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of the cops enjoy smashing the skulls of other humans. Some of them go along to keep their jobs. Some of them are scared shitless and smash skulls because they think their skull might be next. In any case, anyone wearing riot armour is going to smash in skulls. That is what they are for.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikeywin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268297</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikeywin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@26 The story that you&#039;re referring to, was related to him, he did not see/witness it first hand. Infact from what it looks like from the website, the only crazy violence that Mr. Persoff witnessed was the guy bum rushing the cops. Now don&#039;t get me wrong, do I think think the cops could have gotten overzealous? absolutely, but I also would take 2nd hand accounts with a grain of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@26 The story that you&#8217;re referring to, was related to him, he did not see/witness it first hand. Infact from what it looks like from the website, the only crazy violence that Mr. Persoff witnessed was the guy bum rushing the cops. Now don&#8217;t get me wrong, do I think think the cops could have gotten overzealous? absolutely, but I also would take 2nd hand accounts with a grain of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: BDewhirst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268300</link>
		<dc:creator>BDewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Catbeller @34:

An excellent post, but I&#039;d like to take exception to one point. Many of these protesters are further left than the New York Times-- thus, not liberals... as the Gray Lady is the &quot;this far and no further&quot; line in the sand of the mainstream, as Chomsky has written about at great length.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Catbeller @34:</p>
<p>An excellent post, but I&#8217;d like to take exception to one point. Many of these protesters are further left than the New York Times&#8211; thus, not liberals&#8230; as the Gray Lady is the &#8220;this far and no further&#8221; line in the sand of the mainstream, as Chomsky has written about at great length.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268304</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anyone done a proper study of sexual deviancy in relation to riot squad/SWAT team volunteers?  Are these people &quot;normal&quot;?  It&#039;s obvious what kind are attracted to the DEA, is anyone looking into protecting the general public from dangerous psycho-sexual offenders in uniform? I mean, what kind of person actually WANTS this kind of duty? Why aren&#039;t they forcibly drafted from the so-called normal ranks to ensure the sick ones don&#039;t get into positions where they can indulge their perversions? Isn&#039;t that how the military protects itself from internal subversion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone done a proper study of sexual deviancy in relation to riot squad/SWAT team volunteers?  Are these people &#8220;normal&#8221;?  It&#8217;s obvious what kind are attracted to the DEA, is anyone looking into protecting the general public from dangerous psycho-sexual offenders in uniform? I mean, what kind of person actually WANTS this kind of duty? Why aren&#8217;t they forcibly drafted from the so-called normal ranks to ensure the sick ones don&#8217;t get into positions where they can indulge their perversions? Isn&#8217;t that how the military protects itself from internal subversion?</p>
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		<title>By: iassos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268317</link>
		<dc:creator>iassos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CALL CALL CALL your elected Democratic Representative or Senator and demand action.  We can talk change and hope all we want... but actions speak far more loudly than words.  I know both parties are the same, but hold them to their rhetoric.  Demand they act now to prove themselves sincere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CALL CALL CALL your elected Democratic Representative or Senator and demand action.  We can talk change and hope all we want&#8230; but actions speak far more loudly than words.  I know both parties are the same, but hold them to their rhetoric.  Demand they act now to prove themselves sincere.</p>
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		<title>By: drivers99</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268319</link>
		<dc:creator>drivers99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people saying he was stupid and deserved are rationalizing because they need some kind of assurance that someday the same thing won&#039;t happen to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people saying he was stupid and deserved are rationalizing because they need some kind of assurance that someday the same thing won&#8217;t happen to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonofkevitivity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268328</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonofkevitivity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These side stories to the DNC are a real disaster for the democrats.  Stories of anti-capitalism protesters, assassination attempts (even if they turn out to be nothing), protester cages, riot police... All of this nonsense is taking media attention away from what the democrats actually want to be news.  I don&#039;t think people have yet realized what a disaster this is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These side stories to the DNC are a real disaster for the democrats.  Stories of anti-capitalism protesters, assassination attempts (even if they turn out to be nothing), protester cages, riot police&#8230; All of this nonsense is taking media attention away from what the democrats actually want to be news.  I don&#8217;t think people have yet realized what a disaster this is.</p>
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		<title>By: BDewhirst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268337</link>
		<dc:creator>BDewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Takuan @ 38:

I believe the results of the Milgram and Zimbardo experiments (google and wiki-able) suggest that ordinary people cast in unusual roles behave in unusual manners. While it is not the case that any person would do this if they were equipped and trained as a police officer, it is the case that &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; would, and when the mob mentality of the police conducting the beatings is considered, I&#039;m sure the number who&#039;d object falls even lower.  Self-justifications then follow, until this becomes a pattern of behavior. I think this is a problem of a sick system, not just one of sick people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Takuan @ 38:</p>
<p>I believe the results of the Milgram and Zimbardo experiments (google and wiki-able) suggest that ordinary people cast in unusual roles behave in unusual manners. While it is not the case that any person would do this if they were equipped and trained as a police officer, it is the case that <i>most</i> would, and when the mob mentality of the police conducting the beatings is considered, I&#8217;m sure the number who&#8217;d object falls even lower.  Self-justifications then follow, until this becomes a pattern of behavior. I think this is a problem of a sick system, not just one of sick people.</p>
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		<title>By: Enochrewt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268339</link>
		<dc:creator>Enochrewt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add a little more perspective to the DNC protesting thing, There were ~30 gulf war vets on the 16th street pedestrian mall during the lunch hour today, and they were running around acting like they were actually in combat. Doing shooting poses, laying prone, etc.  They had a support crew of about 15 people handing out flyers and shouting.  It was one of the more enthusiastic protests I&#039;ve seen.  The trouble was that while they were doing all this, the veterans were laying in the mall shuttle lane that runs down the pedestrian mall, which end up grinding any movement for two block for about 15 minutes.  All in all I&#039;d say the crowd grew to about 500 people, with 5 motorcycle cops, 5 bicycle cops, two cop cars and at least 10 police officers in full riot gear standing there.  These people were laying down (accidently I hope) &lt;b&gt;in front of moving buses&lt;/b&gt; and there was no police involvement except for when the police stopped the buses from rolling down the street to where they were laying. 

What did the people that were tear gassed and beaten do to get such treatment? It makes you wonder. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add a little more perspective to the DNC protesting thing, There were ~30 gulf war vets on the 16th street pedestrian mall during the lunch hour today, and they were running around acting like they were actually in combat. Doing shooting poses, laying prone, etc.  They had a support crew of about 15 people handing out flyers and shouting.  It was one of the more enthusiastic protests I&#8217;ve seen.  The trouble was that while they were doing all this, the veterans were laying in the mall shuttle lane that runs down the pedestrian mall, which end up grinding any movement for two block for about 15 minutes.  All in all I&#8217;d say the crowd grew to about 500 people, with 5 motorcycle cops, 5 bicycle cops, two cop cars and at least 10 police officers in full riot gear standing there.  These people were laying down (accidently I hope) <b>in front of moving buses</b> and there was no police involvement except for when the police stopped the buses from rolling down the street to where they were laying. </p>
<p>What did the people that were tear gassed and beaten do to get such treatment? It makes you wonder. </p>
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		<title>By: themindfantastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268596</link>
		<dc:creator>themindfantastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much like Chicago 1968, only fourty years later.</description>
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		<title>By: Aloisius</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268349</link>
		<dc:creator>Aloisius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are in a situation where you&#039;re confronted with a bunch of amped up guys in full SWAT gear on full alert, DO NOT BREAK AWAY FROM THE CROWD AND RUN DIRECTLY AT THEM.

Honestly. You want to be as non-confrontational as physically possible in this situation. Unless of course your goal is to get filmed being beaten up by cops.

That&#039;s not to say that the cops behavior was justified, but this is the real world and when confronted with a situation like this, the end result was inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are in a situation where you&#8217;re confronted with a bunch of amped up guys in full SWAT gear on full alert, DO NOT BREAK AWAY FROM THE CROWD AND RUN DIRECTLY AT THEM.</p>
<p>Honestly. You want to be as non-confrontational as physically possible in this situation. Unless of course your goal is to get filmed being beaten up by cops.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that the cops behavior was justified, but this is the real world and when confronted with a situation like this, the end result was inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: BDewhirst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268358</link>
		<dc:creator>BDewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 44:

When surrounded, which way did you expect them to run?

The linked article indicates those who complied with police instructions were still beaten, though not as badly as the subject of this excerpt.</description>
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<p>When surrounded, which way did you expect them to run?</p>
<p>The linked article indicates those who complied with police instructions were still beaten, though not as badly as the subject of this excerpt.</p>
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		<title>By: catbeller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268366</link>
		<dc:creator>catbeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Escalation&quot;. Remember what Gordon said to Batman? The cops become anonymous batmen, all to cow protestors, the &quot;war&quot; escalates. In this case, the escalation is a figment of American&#039;s imaginations, but it is all too real in practice. The man &quot;running right at them&quot; will be the excuse to bring even more armored batmen next time, then of course the sonic cannon, the mandatory ID checks, the Faraday lightning cannon, the gas, the Batmobiles, and finally, just making protest illegal. Which pretty much has happened. 

I mind the Haymarket false flag operation of the 19th century, where one anonymous bomb was used as an excuse for Marshall Field and the others to round up and execute all the anarchist and socialist leaders. I remember the oh-so-convenient &quot;rioters&quot; at the WTO in Seattle, which remarkably and not surprisingly immediately triggered the present regime of armored monsters and the de facto repeal of the Constitution.

As another writer noted here, all the real killers were right-wing loners and the victims were all liberal reformers. Yet the constant assumption held by all is that the HIPPIES are the ones we need to pound into bloody steaks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Escalation&#8221;. Remember what Gordon said to Batman? The cops become anonymous batmen, all to cow protestors, the &#8220;war&#8221; escalates. In this case, the escalation is a figment of American&#8217;s imaginations, but it is all too real in practice. The man &#8220;running right at them&#8221; will be the excuse to bring even more armored batmen next time, then of course the sonic cannon, the mandatory ID checks, the Faraday lightning cannon, the gas, the Batmobiles, and finally, just making protest illegal. Which pretty much has happened. </p>
<p>I mind the Haymarket false flag operation of the 19th century, where one anonymous bomb was used as an excuse for Marshall Field and the others to round up and execute all the anarchist and socialist leaders. I remember the oh-so-convenient &#8220;rioters&#8221; at the WTO in Seattle, which remarkably and not surprisingly immediately triggered the present regime of armored monsters and the de facto repeal of the Constitution.</p>
<p>As another writer noted here, all the real killers were right-wing loners and the victims were all liberal reformers. Yet the constant assumption held by all is that the HIPPIES are the ones we need to pound into bloody steaks.</p>
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		<title>By: mdhatter</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268633</link>
		<dc:creator>mdhatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Much like Chicago 1968, only forty years later.&lt;/i&gt;

Lather, rinse, repeat?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Much like Chicago 1968, only forty years later.</i></p>
<p>Lather, rinse, repeat?</p>
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		<title>By: gaspergoo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-270430</link>
		<dc:creator>gaspergoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this may be the kid you are talking about hes a friend of mine and my brother and boyfriend
go here and watch the video 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwp9_diAVhY


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this may be the kid you are talking about hes a friend of mine and my brother and boyfriend<br />
go here and watch the video </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwp9_diAVhY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwp9_diAVhY</a></p>
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		<title>By: BDewhirst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268386</link>
		<dc:creator>BDewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like the Huffington Post is reporting on this or a related story based on a &quot;somewhat biased&quot; AP release... the police are claiming &quot;demonstrators charged them with rocks.&quot;

They&#039;re also claiming not to have used rubber bullets...  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the Huffington Post is reporting on this or a related story based on a &#8220;somewhat biased&#8221; AP release&#8230; the police are claiming &#8220;demonstrators charged them with rocks.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re also claiming not to have used rubber bullets&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268406</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html?ref=rss</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268410</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://colonos.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/summary-of-g8-events-police-brutality-business-as-usual/</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268414</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfb41CcLjqk</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268416</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/london-anti-war-demo-agent-provocateur-violent-thug-exposed-high-ranking-police-officer</description>
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		<title>By: DogStarMan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268173</link>
		<dc:creator>DogStarMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What world does this guy live in where he thinks running at a line of riot cops is a good idea?  I&#039;ll admit that the reaction described was out of hand, but what was this guy trying to accomplish?  It&#039;s almost as if he wanted to get beat down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What world does this guy live in where he thinks running at a line of riot cops is a good idea?  I&#8217;ll admit that the reaction described was out of hand, but what was this guy trying to accomplish?  It&#8217;s almost as if he wanted to get beat down.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268176</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snds lk  bnch f ppl tryng t d smthng stpd n hps f bcmng  vctm.  Nt ngh rlty TV,  gss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snds lk  bnch f ppl tryng t d smthng stpd n hps f bcmng  vctm.  Nt ngh rlty TV,  gss.</p>
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		<title>By: justONEguy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268177</link>
		<dc:creator>justONEguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. 

If you run from the cops, you will:
a. get the shit beaten out of you.
b. get the shit beaten out of you.
c. get the shit beaten out of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. </p>
<p>If you run from the cops, you will:<br />
a. get the shit beaten out of you.<br />
b. get the shit beaten out of you.<br />
c. get the shit beaten out of you.</p>
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		<title>By: BDewhirst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268182</link>
		<dc:creator>BDewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... I believe blaming the victim is against the BB moderation policy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; I believe blaming the victim is against the BB moderation policy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shahryarrakeen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268694</link>
		<dc:creator>shahryarrakeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t anyone read Steal This Book? I don&#039;t see anyone with ear protection, helmets, or a lawyer&#039;s phone number on their arm.

http://wiki.stealthiswiki.org/wiki/Demonstrations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone read Steal This Book? I don&#8217;t see anyone with ear protection, helmets, or a lawyer&#8217;s phone number on their arm.</p>
<p><a href="http://wiki.stealthiswiki.org/wiki/Demonstrations" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.stealthiswiki.org/wiki/Demonstrations</a></p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268955</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41:
&lt;blockquote&gt;These side stories to the DNC are a real disaster for the democrats. Stories of anti-capitalism protesters, assassination attempts (even if they turn out to be nothing), protester cages, riot police... All of this nonsense is taking media attention away from what the democrats actually want to be news. I don&#039;t think people have yet realized what a disaster this is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is just like the first quote I posted, where a protester was saying that this was the first &quot;victory&quot; in saying something of substance to the rest of the country.

I don&#039;t understand. Do people think that the rest of the world spends its time reading BoingBoing for its news?

There has been barely any coverage at all of these protests in the MSM. The Times has virtually nothing on it, except for a couple blog postings referring to &quot;a few minor protests.&quot; Washington Post, nothing. CNN, nothing. Fox News, nothing.

No one outside the bubble is listening. No one cares. These protests haven&#039;t been a blip on anyone consciousness. This hasn&#039;t been a victory in getting the world to listen. This isn&#039;t a disaster for the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41:</p>
<blockquote><p>These side stories to the DNC are a real disaster for the democrats. Stories of anti-capitalism protesters, assassination attempts (even if they turn out to be nothing), protester cages, riot police&#8230; All of this nonsense is taking media attention away from what the democrats actually want to be news. I don&#8217;t think people have yet realized what a disaster this is.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is just like the first quote I posted, where a protester was saying that this was the first &#8220;victory&#8221; in saying something of substance to the rest of the country.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand. Do people think that the rest of the world spends its time reading BoingBoing for its news?</p>
<p>There has been barely any coverage at all of these protests in the MSM. The Times has virtually nothing on it, except for a couple blog postings referring to &#8220;a few minor protests.&#8221; Washington Post, nothing. CNN, nothing. Fox News, nothing.</p>
<p>No one outside the bubble is listening. No one cares. These protests haven&#8217;t been a blip on anyone consciousness. This hasn&#8217;t been a victory in getting the world to listen. This isn&#8217;t a disaster for the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kenny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268444</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So just how does this differ from any other time in history?  Politics belongs to the strong. And it has to, because only the strong can protect us from the evil terrorists. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So just how does this differ from any other time in history?  Politics belongs to the strong. And it has to, because only the strong can protect us from the evil terrorists. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mantari</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268189</link>
		<dc:creator>Mantari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaaaaaaannndddd... nobody cares about excessive force unless it is on camera, and the guy really really didn&#039;t &quot;deserve it.&quot;

Welcoem to your New Amerikan Sentry.

PS: What are your rights when you&#039;re inside of an area that a group of riot police are caging in tighter and tighter? Are you actually free to leave, or are you under arrest even at that point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaaaaaannndddd&#8230; nobody cares about excessive force unless it is on camera, and the guy really really didn&#8217;t &#8220;deserve it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Welcoem to your New Amerikan Sentry.</p>
<p>PS: What are your rights when you&#8217;re inside of an area that a group of riot police are caging in tighter and tighter? Are you actually free to leave, or are you under arrest even at that point?</p>
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		<title>By: BDewhirst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/08/26/ethan-persoffs-cover.html#comment-268196</link>
		<dc:creator>BDewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, having read the more lengthy description on Mr. Persoff&#039;s site, this sounds like a single incident in the midst of a police riot, not &quot;some dumb hippie running from/at the cops.&quot; If sprayed in the face with pepper spray/tear gas, I&#039;m not sure whether or not I&#039;d listen to the nice man with the bullhorn indicating to get prone or bolt... and should I bolt, I have little confidence as to which direction I&#039;d run in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, having read the more lengthy description on Mr. Persoff&#8217;s site, this sounds like a single incident in the midst of a police riot, not &#8220;some dumb hippie running from/at the cops.&#8221; If sprayed in the face with pepper spray/tear gas, I&#8217;m not sure whether or not I&#8217;d listen to the nice man with the bullhorn indicating to get prone or bolt&#8230; and should I bolt, I have little confidence as to which direction I&#8217;d run in.</p>
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