The Dalai Lama talks about his brother, his family

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  1. Heather Bestel says:

    He does sound very down to earth and humble. Would like to read the whole article.

  2. Molly DeShong says:

    You can find the COMPLETE article by Katayama (“Brothers First”) here:
    http://www.thebuddhadharma.com/issues/2008/fall/brothers.php

  3. rdes says:

    Okay, that’s interesting. After reading Boing Boing for years, I finally take the time to sign up… and my first comment gets deleted under suspicion of colluding with another poster who apparently lives next to me? Give me a break! I’m not part of some conspiracy! No one has contacted me, prodding me to write; and I contacted no one on this matter. I read the PDF article and formed my own opinion. Please republish my comment. It said nothing against the Dalai Lama. My negative comments were reserved to the author and her subject. The fact that the she is a friend of this website –who is actively watching and responding to these comments (#1 TAKUAN) — leads to my own suspicions of conspiracy and suppressed opinions.

    Oh, the irony!

  4. Little John says:

    Go ahead, Heather; the link is provided. All you need is a PDF viewer.

  5. rdes says:

    PS
    I have no proof that TAKUAN and the author are one and the same so I redact that statement.

  6. martha_macarthur says:

    @#14

    Or how about here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Palace
    and
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Gandolfo

    or
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambeth_Palace
    and
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addington_Palace

    If those were my homes I would want to get back to them too, especially to repair all of the damage that soldiers had done to them over the years, like destroying 1000s of years of writings and artwork.

  7. spazzm says:

    Takuan, I believe Sonam refers to the Dorje Shugden contoversy:
    WP article.

  8. mdhatter says:

    RDES – your vitriol is what seemed rather practiced.

    I’m not a mod, just letting you know what I saw.

    That said, if you’ve read BB for years and only just created your first user account,

    then why make your very first comment so very very negative?

    lift over drag, that’s the mission.

  9. Takuan says:

    I resent that. I am at least six different people.

  10. melanophis says:

    Sonam,

    We’re talking about Choegyal here, not whether the Dalai Lama is a Muslim, or whatever lame, knob-headed propaganda you people are peddling this week.

    You and the WSS need to stop spamming the inter-toobs with your whiney, piss-ant concern troll bllsht. You intrude on every thread that mentions the DL, take it completely off topic, and get yourselves all in a righteous lather.

    If you’re *so* *very* *concerned* about the DS monks in India, why don’t you set aside 1% of your temples fund and bring them to the UK or US? Or better still, why don’t you show a modicum of respect for the religious freedom of those you take such relish in reviling and slandering.

    Most sincerely.
    Melanophis

  11. martha_macarthur says:

    I think Choegyal is funny, he’s like the Tibetan Billy Carter or Roger Clinton. As for the other stuff, all religious groups have leaders who address doctrine and practice. The Pope/Vatican issue proclamations regarding how to worship as a catholic all the time.
    It’s really funny how much the PRC are freaked out by one simple monk that they have to troll posts like this.

  12. Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator says:

    Rdes: Lisa Katayama, Takuan, and the moderator who unpublished your comment are three different people.

    Perhaps I was mistaken, but it did not seem to me that you were voicing a recently-formed opinion. The .pdf was news to you?

  13. rdes says:

    I see your point and I’m deeply sorry for sounding like a troll. I promise to be less vitriolic in any future comments.

    I’m a fan of the Dalai Lama and his message of universal tolerance. I downloaded and read the PDF article because I was fascinated to learn about his brother. From the sample text in Boing Boing, he sounded like a more down-to-earth version of his holiness.

    When I read about the brother’s pat one-word solution (“Acceptance”) to any and all questions posed to him, I thought: “well, that’s not exactly insightful…”

    But then I read his comment about a blond female audience member (rather viscously described by the author as “heavyset” and “rambling”): “I think she was frustrated with her own life and tried to make it look like she was worried about Tibetans.”

    He didn’t sound very enlightened to me.

  14. Takuan says:

    I can say from personal experience that the Tibetan cause has struggled so long and so hard with no help at all for decades that they tend to accept whoever does say they wish to help. Not always to their net benefit. Complicating this is Tibetan obligation to be kind to the needy.

  15. dougrogers says:

    Who said he was enlightened?

  16. soupisgoodfood says:

    Sonam: You should really learn about that before you start spreading BS. Why don’t you read up on the Dalai Lama’s point of view of the whole controversy? It’s on his site. There is a lot to read, as it’s very complex, so most people won’t be bothered (and therefore we get posts like yours).

    It’s like taking about business freedoms in the US, then pointing out that the CEO and other higher ranking people in a specific company often have more control over what the company does than people lower down in the organisation. The Dalai Lama is like the CEO and people are free to apply for a job or leave the company to join another, but once they are working there, they have to follow the company rules. If you don’t like those rules, you are free to leave and join another company or start your own.

  17. Takuan says:

    sometimes the object is to just bury with a million flakes of snow. They don’t have to mean anything or be right, just take up space and attention.

  18. mdhatter says:

    YAY! Lift defeats drag!

    Thanks Rdes, now I understand your point.

  19. Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator says:

    Okay, that’s interesting. Lisa Katayama publishes an entry about the Dalai Lama’s brother, Tendzin Choegyal, and we promptly get three brand spanking new commenters showing up to rag on the Dalai Lama. Two of them are located within fifteen miles of each other in the continental United States, and the third is posting from Beijing.

    It’s late. I’m tired. I’ve unpublished all three commenters. If I think better of my action in the morning — and mind, I’m saying if — I’ll reinstate them.

  20. Napkins says:

    If i could live here in the winter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potala_Palace And here in the summer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbulingka I would do all i could to get back there.

  21. rdes says:

    Moderator HAYDEN: Yes, I read the article for the fist time yesterday. In what way did my opinion appear to be not “recently-formmed”?

  22. Takuan says:

    I did:
    http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2008/04/dalai-lama-sued-for-repressing.html

    and it rather smacks of another Chinese government sponsored personal attack.

    How about we discuss the Dalai Lama’s kid brother?

  23. dougrogers says:

    Someone’s got a hate on. Bit too much clinging perhaps?

  24. mdhatter says:

    Having read only the two negative comments about him here – I like him already.

    Anyone who angers that type of person is my kind of guy.

  25. Anonymous says:

    Thank you. An enlightening and amazing read.

  26. doublethink says:

    Really interesting read – such a fascinating guy. He’s so humble and cynical, but obviously extremely intelligent and wise. He’s a poor-man’s Dalai Lama.

  27. Neko says:

    Those are some nice looking palaces.

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