Comments on: The Dalai Lama talks about his brother, his family http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 13:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Heather Bestel http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271620 Heather Bestel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271620 He does sound very down to earth and humble. Would like to read the whole article. He does sound very down to earth and humble. Would like to read the whole article.

]]> By: Molly DeShong http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272395 Molly DeShong Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272395 You can find the COMPLETE article by Katayama ("Brothers First") here: http://www.thebuddhadharma.com/issues/2008/fall/brothers.php You can find the COMPLETE article by Katayama (“Brothers First”) here:
http://www.thebuddhadharma.com/issues/2008/fall/brothers.php

]]> By: rdes http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271884 rdes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271884 Okay, that's interesting. After reading Boing Boing for years, I finally take the time to sign up… and my first comment gets deleted under suspicion of colluding with another poster who apparently lives next to me? Give me a break! I’m not part of some conspiracy! No one has contacted me, prodding me to write; and I contacted no one on this matter. I read the PDF article and formed my own opinion. Please republish my comment. It said nothing against the Dalai Lama. My negative comments were reserved to the author and her subject. The fact that the she is a friend of this website --who is actively watching and responding to these comments (#1 TAKUAN) -- leads to my own suspicions of conspiracy and suppressed opinions. Oh, the irony! Okay, that’s interesting. After reading Boing Boing for years, I finally take the time to sign up… and my first comment gets deleted under suspicion of colluding with another poster who apparently lives next to me? Give me a break! I’m not part of some conspiracy! No one has contacted me, prodding me to write; and I contacted no one on this matter. I read the PDF article and formed my own opinion. Please republish my comment. It said nothing against the Dalai Lama. My negative comments were reserved to the author and her subject. The fact that the she is a friend of this website –who is actively watching and responding to these comments (#1 TAKUAN) — leads to my own suspicions of conspiracy and suppressed opinions.

Oh, the irony!

]]> By: Little John http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271629 Little John Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271629 Go ahead, Heather; the link is provided. All you need is a <a href="http://www.foxitsoftware.com/">PDF viewer</a>. Go ahead, Heather; the link is provided. All you need is a PDF viewer.

]]> By: rdes http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271887 rdes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271887 PS I have no proof that TAKUAN and the author are one and the same so I redact that statement. PS
I have no proof that TAKUAN and the author are one and the same so I redact that statement.

]]> By: martha_macarthur http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271915 martha_macarthur Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271915 @#14 Or how about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Palace and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Gandolfo or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambeth_Palace and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addington_Palace If those were my homes I would want to get back to them too, especially to repair all of the damage that soldiers had done to them over the years, like destroying 1000s of years of writings and artwork. @#14

Or how about here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Palace
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Gandolfo

or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambeth_Palace
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addington_Palace

If those were my homes I would want to get back to them too, especially to repair all of the damage that soldiers had done to them over the years, like destroying 1000s of years of writings and artwork.

]]> By: spazzm http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271665 spazzm Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271665 Takuan, I believe Sonam refers to the Dorje Shugden contoversy: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorje_Shugden_controversy">WP article.</a> Takuan, I believe Sonam refers to the Dorje Shugden contoversy:
WP article.

]]> By: mdhatter http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272198 mdhatter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272198 RDES - your vitriol is what seemed rather practiced. I'm not a mod, just letting you know what I saw. That said, if you've read BB for years and only just created your first user account, then why make your very first comment so very very negative? lift over drag, that's the mission. RDES – your vitriol is what seemed rather practiced.

I’m not a mod, just letting you know what I saw.

That said, if you’ve read BB for years and only just created your first user account,

then why make your very first comment so very very negative?

lift over drag, that’s the mission.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271692 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271692 yeah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorje_Shugden_controversy#Views_of_the_14th_Dalai_Lama_and_replies_from_Shugden_practitioners yeah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorje_Shugden_controversy#Views_of_the_14th_Dalai_Lama_and_replies_from_Shugden_practitioners

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272212 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272212 I resent that. I am at least six different people. I resent that. I am at least six different people.

]]> By: melanophis http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271704 melanophis Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271704 Sonam, We're talking about Choegyal here, not whether the Dalai Lama is a Muslim, or whatever lame, knob-headed propaganda you people are peddling this week. You and the WSS need to stop spamming the inter-toobs with your whiney, piss-ant concern troll bllsht. You intrude on every thread that mentions the DL, take it completely off topic, and get yourselves all in a righteous lather. If you're *so* *very* *concerned* about the DS monks in India, why don't you set aside 1% of your temples fund and bring them to the UK or US? Or better still, why don't you show a modicum of respect for the religious freedom of those you take such relish in reviling and slandering. Most sincerely. Melanophis Sonam,

We’re talking about Choegyal here, not whether the Dalai Lama is a Muslim, or whatever lame, knob-headed propaganda you people are peddling this week.

You and the WSS need to stop spamming the inter-toobs with your whiney, piss-ant concern troll bllsht. You intrude on every thread that mentions the DL, take it completely off topic, and get yourselves all in a righteous lather.

If you’re *so* *very* *concerned* about the DS monks in India, why don’t you set aside 1% of your temples fund and bring them to the UK or US? Or better still, why don’t you show a modicum of respect for the religious freedom of those you take such relish in reviling and slandering.

Most sincerely.
Melanophis

]]> By: martha_macarthur http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271708 martha_macarthur Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271708 I think Choegyal is funny, he's like the Tibetan Billy Carter or Roger Clinton. As for the other stuff, all religious groups have leaders who address doctrine and practice. The Pope/Vatican issue proclamations regarding how to worship as a catholic all the time. It's really funny how much the PRC are freaked out by one simple monk that they have to troll posts like this. I think Choegyal is funny, he’s like the Tibetan Billy Carter or Roger Clinton. As for the other stuff, all religious groups have leaders who address doctrine and practice. The Pope/Vatican issue proclamations regarding how to worship as a catholic all the time.
It’s really funny how much the PRC are freaked out by one simple monk that they have to troll posts like this.

]]> By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271966 Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271966 Rdes: Lisa Katayama, Takuan, and the moderator who unpublished your comment are three different people. Perhaps I was mistaken, but it did not seem to me that you were voicing a recently-formed opinion. The .pdf was news to you? Rdes: Lisa Katayama, Takuan, and the moderator who unpublished your comment are three different people.

Perhaps I was mistaken, but it did not seem to me that you were voicing a recently-formed opinion. The .pdf was news to you?

]]> By: rdes http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272225 rdes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272225 I see your point and I’m deeply sorry for sounding like a troll. I promise to be less vitriolic in any future comments. I’m a fan of the Dalai Lama and his message of universal tolerance. I downloaded and read the PDF article because I was fascinated to learn about his brother. From the sample text in Boing Boing, he sounded like a more down-to-earth version of his holiness. When I read about the brother’s pat one-word solution (“Acceptance”) to any and all questions posed to him, I thought: “well, that’s not exactly insightful…” But then I read his comment about a blond female audience member (rather viscously described by the author as “heavyset” and “rambling”): “I think she was frustrated with her own life and tried to make it look like she was worried about Tibetans.” He didn’t sound very enlightened to me. I see your point and I’m deeply sorry for sounding like a troll. I promise to be less vitriolic in any future comments.

I’m a fan of the Dalai Lama and his message of universal tolerance. I downloaded and read the PDF article because I was fascinated to learn about his brother. From the sample text in Boing Boing, he sounded like a more down-to-earth version of his holiness.

When I read about the brother’s pat one-word solution (“Acceptance”) to any and all questions posed to him, I thought: “well, that’s not exactly insightful…”

But then I read his comment about a blond female audience member (rather viscously described by the author as “heavyset” and “rambling”): “I think she was frustrated with her own life and tried to make it look like she was worried about Tibetans.”

He didn’t sound very enlightened to me.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272228 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272228 I can say from personal experience that the Tibetan cause has struggled so long and so hard with no help at all for decades that they tend to accept whoever does say they wish to help. Not always to their net benefit. Complicating this is Tibetan obligation to be kind to the needy. I can say from personal experience that the Tibetan cause has struggled so long and so hard with no help at all for decades that they tend to accept whoever does say they wish to help. Not always to their net benefit. Complicating this is Tibetan obligation to be kind to the needy.

]]> By: dougrogers http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272229 dougrogers Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272229 Who said he was enlightened? Who said he was enlightened?

]]> By: soupisgoodfood http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271726 soupisgoodfood Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271726 Sonam: You should really learn about that before you start spreading BS. Why don't you read up on the Dalai Lama's point of view of the whole controversy? It's on his site. There is a lot to read, as it's very complex, so most people won't be bothered (and therefore we get posts like yours). It's like taking about business freedoms in the US, then pointing out that the CEO and other higher ranking people in a specific company often have more control over what the company does than people lower down in the organisation. The Dalai Lama is like the CEO and people are free to apply for a job or leave the company to join another, but once they are working there, they have to follow the company rules. If you don't like those rules, you are free to leave and join another company or start your own. Sonam: You should really learn about that before you start spreading BS. Why don’t you read up on the Dalai Lama’s point of view of the whole controversy? It’s on his site. There is a lot to read, as it’s very complex, so most people won’t be bothered (and therefore we get posts like yours).

It’s like taking about business freedoms in the US, then pointing out that the CEO and other higher ranking people in a specific company often have more control over what the company does than people lower down in the organisation. The Dalai Lama is like the CEO and people are free to apply for a job or leave the company to join another, but once they are working there, they have to follow the company rules. If you don’t like those rules, you are free to leave and join another company or start your own.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271728 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271728 sometimes the object is to just bury with a million flakes of snow. They don't have to mean anything or be right, just take up space and attention. sometimes the object is to just bury with a million flakes of snow. They don’t have to mean anything or be right, just take up space and attention.

]]> By: mdhatter http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272242 mdhatter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272242 YAY! Lift defeats drag! Thanks Rdes, now I understand your point. YAY! Lift defeats drag!

Thanks Rdes, now I understand your point.

]]> By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271737 Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271737 Okay, that's interesting. Lisa Katayama publishes an entry about the Dalai Lama's brother, Tendzin Choegyal, and we promptly get three brand spanking new commenters showing up to rag on the Dalai Lama. Two of them are located within fifteen miles of each other in the continental United States, and the third is posting from Beijing. It's late. I'm tired. I've unpublished all three commenters. If I think better of my action in the morning -- and mind, I'm saying <i>if</i> -- I'll reinstate them. Okay, that’s interesting. Lisa Katayama publishes an entry about the Dalai Lama’s brother, Tendzin Choegyal, and we promptly get three brand spanking new commenters showing up to rag on the Dalai Lama. Two of them are located within fifteen miles of each other in the continental United States, and the third is posting from Beijing.

It’s late. I’m tired. I’ve unpublished all three commenters. If I think better of my action in the morning — and mind, I’m saying if — I’ll reinstate them.

]]> By: Napkins http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271795 Napkins Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271795 If i could live here in the winter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potala_Palace And here in the summer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbulingka I would do all i could to get back there. If i could live here in the winter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potala_Palace And here in the summer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbulingka I would do all i could to get back there.

]]> By: rdes http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-272080 rdes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272080 Moderator HAYDEN: Yes, I read the article for the fist time yesterday. In what way did my opinion appear to be not "recently-formmed"? Moderator HAYDEN: Yes, I read the article for the fist time yesterday. In what way did my opinion appear to be not “recently-formmed”?

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271569 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271569 I did: http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2008/04/dalai-lama-sued-for-repressing.html and it rather smacks of another Chinese government sponsored personal attack. How about we discuss the Dalai Lama's kid brother? I did:
http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2008/04/dalai-lama-sued-for-repressing.html

and it rather smacks of another Chinese government sponsored personal attack.

How about we discuss the Dalai Lama’s kid brother?

]]> By: dougrogers http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271599 dougrogers Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271599 Someone's got a hate on. Bit too much clinging perhaps? Someone’s got a hate on. Bit too much clinging perhaps?

]]> By: mdhatter http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271603 mdhatter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271603 Having read only the two negative comments about him here - I like him already. Anyone who angers that type of person is my kind of guy. Having read only the two negative comments about him here – I like him already.

Anyone who angers that type of person is my kind of guy.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271862 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271862 Thank you. An enlightening and amazing read. Thank you. An enlightening and amazing read.

]]> By: doublethink http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271609 doublethink Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271609 Really interesting read - such a fascinating guy. He's so humble and cynical, but obviously extremely intelligent and wise. He's a poor-man's Dalai Lama. Really interesting read – such a fascinating guy. He’s so humble and cynical, but obviously extremely intelligent and wise. He’s a poor-man’s Dalai Lama.

]]> By: Neko http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/the-dalai-lama-talks.html#comment-271870 Neko Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271870 Those are some nice looking palaces. Those are some nice looking palaces.

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