Comments on: Who scrubbed Wikipedia's entry for Sarah Palin just before nom announcement? http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 07:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272129 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272129 how about you and Brian do the same? how about you and Brian do the same?

]]> By: buddy66 http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272898 buddy66 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272898 VagabondAstronomer: <i> Based upon my experience, though, the empathy card only works when it applies to them, not when it is applied to others. </i> Empathy usually means sympathizing with someone or something because of sharing a similar experience. "OMG, I know exactly what you mean!" is empathy. "OMG, that must be awful!" is sympathy. Sympathy takes more imagination. VagabondAstronomer:

Based upon my experience, though, the empathy card only works when it applies to them, not when it is applied to others.

Empathy usually means sympathizing with someone or something because of sharing a similar experience.

“OMG, I know exactly what you mean!” is empathy.
“OMG, that must be awful!” is sympathy.

Sympathy takes more imagination.

]]> By: Roschelle http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271877 Roschelle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271877 An 80% approval rating while 87% of Alaskans are positive that she's lying about her hand in having or trying to have her ex brother-in-law fired. Governor Palin appears to be very well-spoken, an advocate of political reform and yes a self-described hockey mom. But she's also <a href="http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com/2008/08/follow-up-to-bristol-palin-pregnancy.html" rel="nofollow">a blatant liar</a> who didn't think her plan to attempt to cover up her oldest daughters pregnancy would ever come back to haunt her. An 80% approval rating while 87% of Alaskans are positive that she’s lying about her hand in having or trying to have her ex brother-in-law fired. Governor Palin appears to be very well-spoken, an advocate of political reform and yes a self-described hockey mom. But she’s also a blatant liar who didn’t think her plan to attempt to cover up her oldest daughters pregnancy would ever come back to haunt her.

]]> By: SeppTB http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272647 SeppTB Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272647 #112 - I think you totally misread what #111 was saying =) Roschelle seemed to be pointing out that it makes sense to pursue the truth, even of rumors, and thus defending those of us who were curious and 'investigating' said rumors. #112 – I think you totally misread what #111 was saying =)

Roschelle seemed to be pointing out that it makes sense to pursue the truth, even of rumors, and thus defending those of us who were curious and ‘investigating’ said rumors.

]]> By: Jerry C http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272137 Jerry C Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272137 Well Little Sureshot fills me with the same visceral hatred I felt in the UK for M.Thatcher, so I'm not minimising her chances. To be fair, Thatcher had real experience and had come up through the ranks, but her voice grated up my libertarian spine just as Lady Wolfdoom LeDriller's does. So I have nothing particular to say except don't take our lady of the snows for granted. Of course, I won't be here to get the full force of any win, if they have one. I'll be haring back to Europe rapido. Denmark looks good. High taxes, highest quality of life. Good healthcare for all. Everything Thatcher destroyed for the middle class in the UK. And Denmark's not that far from the North Pole, come to think of it. Don't worry, we won't let them privatize Santa... Well Little Sureshot fills me with the same visceral hatred I felt in the UK for M.Thatcher, so I’m not minimising her chances. To be fair, Thatcher had real experience and had come up through the ranks, but her voice grated up my libertarian spine just as Lady Wolfdoom LeDriller’s does. So I have nothing particular to say except don’t take our lady of the snows for granted. Of course, I won’t be here to get the full force of any win, if they have one. I’ll be haring back to Europe rapido. Denmark looks good. High taxes, highest quality of life. Good healthcare for all. Everything Thatcher destroyed for the middle class in the UK. And Denmark’s not that far from the North Pole, come to think of it. Don’t worry, we won’t let them privatize Santa…

]]> By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271883 Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271883 Can someone point me to a source on the story about Palin's daughter that's more reliable than "everyone in Anchorage knows"? There are serious objections one can raise to Palin's story about being allowed onto a commercial flight from Texas to Alaska when she was already in labor, but that doesn't mean every theory that's been advanced in opposition to it is automatically correct. The Paul, please don't just say "you can clearly see whoever made the accusation doesn't know how Wikipedia works." First, we need to know how one can supposedly tell that. Second, you need to explain, if you can, how that argument invalidates the accusation. Can someone point me to a source on the story about Palin’s daughter that’s more reliable than “everyone in Anchorage knows”? There are serious objections one can raise to Palin’s story about being allowed onto a commercial flight from Texas to Alaska when she was already in labor, but that doesn’t mean every theory that’s been advanced in opposition to it is automatically correct.

The Paul, please don’t just say “you can clearly see whoever made the accusation doesn’t know how Wikipedia works.” First, we need to know how one can supposedly tell that. Second, you need to explain, if you can, how that argument invalidates the accusation.

]]> By: Phikus http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272654 Phikus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272654 Ok, I agree with that. I apologize. Ok, I agree with that. I apologize.

]]> By: rrsafety http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271889 rrsafety Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271889 Trshng smn's dghtr? Wht clssy bnch y r. Trshng smn’s dghtr?

Wht clssy bnch y r.

]]> By: SeppTB http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271890 SeppTB Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271890 I just did some digging myself, I found this on Daily Kos: http://openthread.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223 Lots of pictures of Palin when she would have been 7 months pregnant or so, not showing even a little bit. Has a pretty good one of her daughter... who does look more than a little pregnant. I just did some digging myself, I found this on Daily Kos:

http://openthread.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223

Lots of pictures of Palin when she would have been 7 months pregnant or so, not showing even a little bit. Has a pretty good one of her daughter… who does look more than a little pregnant.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272146 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272146 yeah, Denmark sounds good.... wonder how the muslims are doing? yeah, Denmark sounds good…. wonder how the muslims are doing?

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272658 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272658 I couldn't parse her comment either. I couldn’t parse her comment either.

]]> By: boingboing ate my name http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272148 boingboing ate my name Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272148 Takuan @ #61 Im sorry, not enough frapping comments for you? I mean, if not toeing the line gets you disemvoweling, but frapping on the thread gets nary a peep, then let me be the first to say ZOMG! McCain's VP has a VAGINA!!!! Want! Better? Takuan @ #61 Im sorry, not enough frapping comments for you? I mean, if not toeing the line gets you disemvoweling, but frapping on the thread gets nary a peep, then let me be the first to say ZOMG! McCain’s VP has a VAGINA!!!! Want! Better?

]]> By: buddy66 http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272662 buddy66 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272662 There's probably not a family that hasn't had an unmarried teen-age pregnancy. If the GOP plays this right, it plays; it's called empathy. There’s probably not a family that hasn’t had an unmarried teen-age pregnancy. If the GOP plays this right, it plays; it’s called empathy.

]]> By: dignam http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271895 dignam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271895 Thanks for posting this, Xeni. I, like many people, clicked on the Wikipedia entry (as it's always the Google of first resort) and was immediately highly dubious, especially after reviewing other news articles which described Palin in terms only vaguely familiar to the Wikipedia entry. Top-notch sleuthing! Thanks for posting this, Xeni. I, like many people, clicked on the Wikipedia entry (as it’s always the Google of first resort) and was immediately highly dubious, especially after reviewing other news articles which described Palin in terms only vaguely familiar to the Wikipedia entry. Top-notch sleuthing!

]]> By: pylb http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272919 pylb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272919 Did anyone bother checking Archive.org's WayBack Machine? http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin You can peruse several previous versions of Palin's Wikipedia profile. While doing that, remember that Wikipedia is open-source; not a definitive compendium by any means. Any of us can edit Palin's profile. Why whine about it when you can correct it or simply ignore it? Did anyone bother checking Archive.org’s WayBack Machine?

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

You can peruse several previous versions of Palin’s Wikipedia profile. While doing that, remember that Wikipedia is open-source; not a definitive compendium by any means. Any of us can edit Palin’s profile. Why whine about it when you can correct it or simply ignore it?

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272152 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272152 feh. feh.

]]> By: Tenn http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271899 Tenn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271899 I attempted discussing Palin with my Republican family. "She has more experience than your damn liberal," "good, God-fearing-woman," etc. I attempted to bring up her ethics violations and I received comparison to my MESSY ROOM and LYING. Mine! I'm not running for VP! My messy room has nothing to do with it. Discussed it with my mother, too, as well as her stance on gay rights, and- one of our tricks for arguing politics without getting too angry is speaking in terms of what will help / hurt a candidate, rather than why we like / dislike a candidate- I told her about the gay rights thing. Her response? "Gays are only one percent of the population, so it won't really hurt the vote-". "Mom, gays are more than one percent of the population, more than just gays care about gay rights, and that's even MORE reason for her not to get elected, because we really should get the hell beyond oppressing our minorities." Apparently, "they aren't minorities, they're gay." Sigh. There goes my mother's vote for Obama, because of his stupidly quintessential Conservative woman Vice-President. He's going for the Hillary voters. Hopefully her stance on abortion will send them away like vampires from garlic. I attempted discussing Palin with my Republican family.

“She has more experience than your damn liberal,” “good, God-fearing-woman,” etc. I attempted to bring up her ethics violations and I received comparison to my MESSY ROOM and LYING. Mine! I’m not running for VP! My messy room has nothing to do with it.

Discussed it with my mother, too, as well as her stance on gay rights, and- one of our tricks for arguing politics without getting too angry is speaking in terms of what will help / hurt a candidate, rather than why we like / dislike a candidate- I told her about the gay rights thing. Her response? “Gays are only one percent of the population, so it won’t really hurt the vote-”. “Mom, gays are more than one percent of the population, more than just gays care about gay rights, and that’s even MORE reason for her not to get elected, because we really should get the hell beyond oppressing our minorities.”

Apparently, “they aren’t minorities, they’re gay.”

Sigh. There goes my mother’s vote for Obama, because of his stupidly quintessential Conservative woman Vice-President.

He’s going for the Hillary voters. Hopefully her stance on abortion will send them away like vampires from garlic.

]]> By: adonai http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272157 adonai Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272157 I would love to see the old media investigate the allegations of her daughter being the real mother of her son. If it's not true, then it can be put to rest. If it is true, it is a big deal. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence, but it's growing to be a BFD online. I would love to see the old media investigate the allegations of her daughter being the real mother of her son. If it’s not true, then it can be put to rest. If it is true, it is a big deal. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence, but it’s growing to be a BFD online.

]]> By: MacBookProUser http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272413 MacBookProUser Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272413 MFG, th llgtn tht sh sd nflnc t gt hr brthr-n-lw frd??? S, ths wmn dsn't hv NRLY ngh xprnc fr hgh ffc. Hw cld w pssbly xpct hr t b cpbl rpst nd pllgr f r Cnstttn f smthng lk PSSBLY scrwng vr hr brthr-n-lw s bd ngh t wrrnt scrbbng frm hr Wkpd ntry? J Bdn's gtt b lghng hs btt-cks ff t tht n, thnkng "MTR!" 'm nt McCn spprtr, bt y knw wht? f w'r nt smrt ngh t vn gv Rn Pl fr lk, M LL FR lctng fr Myrs f twns wth ppltn 9,000 fr VRY lctd ffc n r cntry. Th thr wy's gttn s n lt f trbl. Wht cld grp f frmr Myrs f Mybrry scrw p wrs? MFG, th llgtn tht sh sd nflnc t gt hr brthr-n-lw frd???

S, ths wmn dsn’t hv NRLY ngh xprnc fr hgh ffc. Hw cld w pssbly xpct hr t b cpbl rpst nd pllgr f r Cnstttn f smthng lk PSSBLY scrwng vr hr brthr-n-lw s bd ngh t wrrnt scrbbng frm hr Wkpd ntry?

J Bdn’s gtt b lghng hs btt-cks ff t tht n, thnkng “MTR!”

‘m nt McCn spprtr, bt y knw wht? f w’r nt smrt ngh t vn gv Rn Pl fr lk, M LL FR lctng fr Myrs f twns wth ppltn 9,000 fr VRY lctd ffc n r cntry.

Th thr wy’s gttn s n lt f trbl. Wht cld grp f frmr Myrs f Mybrry scrw p wrs?

]]> By: p3n3nc3 http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271903 p3n3nc3 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271903 Dr vn sk..f th pltcl ffltn wr thr thn Rp wld w vn b hvng ths cnv? Dr vn sk..f th pltcl ffltn wr thr thn Rp wld w vn b hvng ths cnv?

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272163 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272163 maybe it is another turd blossom plot, we'll see. maybe it is another turd blossom plot, we’ll see.

]]> By: VagabondAstronomer http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272676 VagabondAstronomer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272676 Based upon my experience, though, the empathy card only works when it applies to them, not when it is applied to others. Based upon my experience, though, the empathy card only works when it applies to them, not when it is applied to others.

]]> By: boingboing ate my name http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272165 boingboing ate my name Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272165 ADONAI @ #66 "If it is true, it is a big deal." Really? Why? ADONAI @ #66 “If it is true, it is a big deal.” Really? Why?

]]> By: Antinous http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272169 Antinous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272169 Brian, Take a time out. Brian,

Take a time out.

]]> By: Troy http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271914 Troy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271914 How exactly is this news? If I were going national -- I would either a. review my Wikipedia entry for errors and lies or 2. start a Wikipedia entry. Bg Dl? Isn't someone spying on someone somewhere? Some brave soul with a mask and rock is about to speak Truth to power -- shouldn't you be there covering him? He's raging against the machine safely ensconced in the liberty brought to him by Judeo-Christian principles. Ths s prtty vpd. How exactly is this news? If I were going national — I would either a. review my Wikipedia entry for errors and lies or 2. start a Wikipedia entry.

Bg Dl? Isn’t someone spying on someone somewhere? Some brave soul with a mask and rock is about to speak Truth to power — shouldn’t you be there covering him? He’s raging against the machine safely ensconced in the liberty brought to him by Judeo-Christian principles.

Ths s prtty vpd.

]]> By: Ned613 http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-274220 Ned613 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-274220 Takuan: I am posting because I had a viceral reaction to the article as I was browsing. I believe declining media standards is the real issue not if someone anonymously updated a politician's profile in a popular Internet open source reference. If my opinions offend you then I appologize and should have been more considerate. I did not realize people were so sensitive here. Takuan: I am posting because I had a viceral reaction to the article as I was browsing. I believe declining media standards is the real issue not if someone anonymously updated a politician’s profile in a popular Internet open source reference. If my opinions offend you then I appologize and should have been more considerate. I did not realize people were so sensitive here.

]]> By: anthony http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272173 anthony Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272173 Abstinence-minded pro life Republican mom forced to conceal unwed teen pregnancy. The big deal is: why not just come clean about it in the first place? Meanwhile we forget momentarily that the VP pick from Alaska is pro-drilling? Abstinence-minded pro life Republican mom forced to conceal unwed teen pregnancy. The big deal is: why not just come clean about it in the first place?
Meanwhile we forget momentarily that the VP pick from Alaska is pro-drilling?

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271921 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271921 based on the last two presidential choices America made,why shouldn't a anti-choice, religious fundamentalist/creationist, global warming-denying political infant get in? And Troy? You aren't fibbing about being a lawyer are you? based on the last two presidential choices America made,why shouldn’t a anti-choice, religious fundamentalist/creationist, global warming-denying political infant get in? And Troy? You aren’t fibbing about being a lawyer are you?

]]> By: Andrew W http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-272177 Andrew W Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-272177 P3N3NC3, please, don't. Really, I'm not even American and I'm sick of Republicans and their "well, well, well ... but, CLINTON!" It isn't a valid response to every argument, despite what you lot think. Hell, its not a valid response to any argument, unless it was about Clinton in the first place. P3N3NC3, please, don’t. Really, I’m not even American and I’m sick of Republicans and their “well, well, well … but, CLINTON!” It isn’t a valid response to every argument, despite what you lot think. Hell, its not a valid response to any argument, unless it was about Clinton in the first place.

]]> By: DTPhantom http://boingboing.net/2008/08/30/who-scrubbed-wikiped.html#comment-271922 DTPhantom Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-271922 f y wld bthr t read the original article http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/29/AR2008082902691.html?hpid%3Dtopnews⊂=AR y wld s tht th sm thng hppnd t th Dm VP pcks. Bt hy lts nt lt lttl thng lk trth gt n th wy f gd ld fshn Rpblcn bshng. f y wld bthr t read the original article http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/29/AR2008082902691.html?hpid%3Dtopnews⊂=AR y wld s tht th sm thng hppnd t th Dm VP pcks.

Bt hy lts nt lt lttl thng lk trth gt n th wy f gd ld fshn Rpblcn bshng.

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