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	<title>Comments on: &quot;America&#039;s financial system was shaken to its core on&#160;Sunday.&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: FoetusNail</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283648</link>
		<dc:creator>FoetusNail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kay is right. Not only did some see this coming as early as 2006, but some institutions were reducing their own exposure to these packaged mortgages, while still selling them to other large investers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay is right. Not only did some see this coming as early as 2006, but some institutions were reducing their own exposure to these packaged mortgages, while still selling them to other large investers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceronomus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284417</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceronomus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#160 - Another member of the &quot;Not a real clue about the Federal Reserve&quot; heard from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#160 &#8211; Another member of the &#8220;Not a real clue about the Federal Reserve&#8221; heard from.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay the Complainer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283652</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay the Complainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@80, I was agreeing with you.  It was 69 I was addressing - didn&#039;t make it very clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@80, I was agreeing with you.  It was 69 I was addressing &#8211; didn&#8217;t make it very clear.</p>
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		<title>By: zandar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283657</link>
		<dc:creator>zandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When government willfully refuses to regulate, then you can expect stuff like this will eventually happen.

Amen #1.

WHY IS THIS A SURPRISE TO ANYONE?

And half of Americans want more of the same for four more years.

As an American who is proud of the principles laid down by the founding fathers, I am mad as hell at the ideologues and predators ruining our economy and our culture. But all they have to do is mention partial birth abortions and they get voted right back in.

I propose two American states: America, which will uphold the foundation laid by its founders; and Merica, where all the predatory capitalists can pick away at the willfully ignorant, superstitious underclass as long and as hard as they please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When government willfully refuses to regulate, then you can expect stuff like this will eventually happen.</p>
<p>Amen #1.</p>
<p>WHY IS THIS A SURPRISE TO ANYONE?</p>
<p>And half of Americans want more of the same for four more years.</p>
<p>As an American who is proud of the principles laid down by the founding fathers, I am mad as hell at the ideologues and predators ruining our economy and our culture. But all they have to do is mention partial birth abortions and they get voted right back in.</p>
<p>I propose two American states: America, which will uphold the foundation laid by its founders; and Merica, where all the predatory capitalists can pick away at the willfully ignorant, superstitious underclass as long and as hard as they please.</p>
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		<title>By: Super Nate</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284425</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always really late to these things.  It&#039;s going to take a while to sort through this whole mess and figure out the proper valuation on these securitized mortgage holdings.  Hopefully, we don&#039;t get a pipeload of bad legislation in response that hides the information being generated in these corrections.  As a more free market type, it gets so frustrating seeing this cycle:
1: Republican talks up markets
2: Republican legislates opposite of his talk
3: legislation causes foreseeable disaster
4: market is blamed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always really late to these things.  It&#8217;s going to take a while to sort through this whole mess and figure out the proper valuation on these securitized mortgage holdings.  Hopefully, we don&#8217;t get a pipeload of bad legislation in response that hides the information being generated in these corrections.  As a more free market type, it gets so frustrating seeing this cycle:<br />
1: Republican talks up markets<br />
2: Republican legislates opposite of his talk<br />
3: legislation causes foreseeable disaster<br />
4: market is blamed</p>
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		<title>By: acb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283659</link>
		<dc:creator>acb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long until people start referring to the Great Depression as the &quot;First World Depression&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long until people start referring to the Great Depression as the &#8220;First World Depression&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Super Nate</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284427</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, seriously, what&#039;s so free market about medicare, faith-based initiatives, and a trillion dollar war?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, seriously, what&#8217;s so free market about medicare, faith-based initiatives, and a trillion dollar war?</p>
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		<title>By: flashdadi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284172</link>
		<dc:creator>flashdadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iz ok.

I haz a hedge fund.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/6rdrl3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;U can haz too.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iz ok.</p>
<p>I haz a hedge fund.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6rdrl3" rel="nofollow">U can haz too.</a></p>
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		<title>By: justONEguy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283665</link>
		<dc:creator>justONEguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reagan deregulation strikes again! See you at the soup lines, kiddies!</description>
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		<title>By: IamInnocent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283666</link>
		<dc:creator>IamInnocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@75

Hello Jack,

take a few steps back and look beyond your 401k and the immediate mortgage crisis. All this happened because the assets of America are concentrated in less and less hands. That concentration is accelerating and if people ever feared a black hole that should be when only very few will own everything. That is the result of perpetual economic growth, invented to perpetuate economic domination of the few. The citizen of the rich countries, us, were included in those &quot;few&quot; and we reaped the benefits of it, albeit only on the margins, granted. But, as concentration increases, more and more will be rejected until it all breaks down.

We have been riding bubbles for a long time.

The mortgage scam existed because the owners of those assets just had no place to invest but in fictitious undertakings : we have stopped to invest. It was a desperate move, one that was so bound to fail that anybody with an ounce of judgment and clarity of mind could see coming. It was forecast months in advance. Why then did they go ahead with it ? They had no choice so they tried their old trick of escaping by running faster forward, toward nothing.

It is not over and it will get much worse, if not during this crisis the during the next.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@75</p>
<p>Hello Jack,</p>
<p>take a few steps back and look beyond your 401k and the immediate mortgage crisis. All this happened because the assets of America are concentrated in less and less hands. That concentration is accelerating and if people ever feared a black hole that should be when only very few will own everything. That is the result of perpetual economic growth, invented to perpetuate economic domination of the few. The citizen of the rich countries, us, were included in those &#8220;few&#8221; and we reaped the benefits of it, albeit only on the margins, granted. But, as concentration increases, more and more will be rejected until it all breaks down.</p>
<p>We have been riding bubbles for a long time.</p>
<p>The mortgage scam existed because the owners of those assets just had no place to invest but in fictitious undertakings : we have stopped to invest. It was a desperate move, one that was so bound to fail that anybody with an ounce of judgment and clarity of mind could see coming. It was forecast months in advance. Why then did they go ahead with it ? They had no choice so they tried their old trick of escaping by running faster forward, toward nothing.</p>
<p>It is not over and it will get much worse, if not during this crisis the during the next.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: aluxeterna</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283667</link>
		<dc:creator>aluxeterna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keating 5 for Prezidint at a time like this? Thanks but no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keating 5 for Prezidint at a time like this? Thanks but no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: doublewestern</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283668</link>
		<dc:creator>doublewestern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone worried about their life&#039;s savings going down the tube, don&#039;t worry.  After all, if it&#039;s FDIC insured, then there&#039;s no need to worry about your $100k, right?

Except, how many savings accounts can the FDIC replenish before having to go to the Fed to borrow money to keep up with the guarantee?

Despite the fact, I&#039;m keeping all $1000 of my life&#039;s work in the bank.  I think of it as doing my part to keep breadlines at bay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone worried about their life&#8217;s savings going down the tube, don&#8217;t worry.  After all, if it&#8217;s FDIC insured, then there&#8217;s no need to worry about your $100k, right?</p>
<p>Except, how many savings accounts can the FDIC replenish before having to go to the Fed to borrow money to keep up with the guarantee?</p>
<p>Despite the fact, I&#8217;m keeping all $1000 of my life&#8217;s work in the bank.  I think of it as doing my part to keep breadlines at bay.</p>
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		<title>By: nonrational</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283925</link>
		<dc:creator>nonrational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to this weekend&#039;s &lt;i&gt;This American Life&lt;/i&gt;, NPR recently started a new show w/ podcast in response to the overwhelming popularity of previously mentioned TAL#355: The Giant Pool of Money. It should be a fantastic resource for keeping on top of the state of the global economy.

NPR: Planet Money Podcast
http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=94411890</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this weekend&#8217;s <i>This American Life</i>, NPR recently started a new show w/ podcast in response to the overwhelming popularity of previously mentioned TAL#355: The Giant Pool of Money. It should be a fantastic resource for keeping on top of the state of the global economy.</p>
<p>NPR: Planet Money Podcast<br />
<a href="http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=94411890" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=94411890</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283674</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t read this thread anymore. Too much sad.

Can&#039;t E.T. show himself to the world right about now so we can all have something to hope for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t read this thread anymore. Too much sad.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t E.T. show himself to the world right about now so we can all have something to hope for?</p>
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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283931</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cont from #135
*10- if you are over $100,000 in the bank and don&#039;t want to invest in tangibles at least open a treasury direct account so you will at least be able to withdraw the dollar amount whan you need your cash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cont from #135<br />
*10- if you are over $100,000 in the bank and don&#8217;t want to invest in tangibles at least open a treasury direct account so you will at least be able to withdraw the dollar amount whan you need your cash</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284443</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean, seriously, what&#039;s so free market about medicare, faith-based initiatives, and a trillion dollar war?&lt;/blockquote&gt;What do you call this act?  &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocrats_(joke)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Neo-Cons!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I mean, seriously, what&#8217;s so free market about medicare, faith-based initiatives, and a trillion dollar war?</p></blockquote>
<p>What do you call this act?  <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocrats_(joke)" rel="nofollow">The Neo-Cons!</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: keitmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283678</link>
		<dc:creator>keitmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not what you want to see on a day like today (from msnbc.com):

http://keithmo.com/Misc/market-update.jpg

I refreshed the page and it came back correctly. Of course the real values are not exactly what I want to see either, but they&#039;re better than &quot;NaN&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not what you want to see on a day like today (from msnbc.com):</p>
<p><a href="http://keithmo.com/Misc/market-update.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://keithmo.com/Misc/market-update.jpg</a></p>
<p>I refreshed the page and it came back correctly. Of course the real values are not exactly what I want to see either, but they&#8217;re better than &#8220;NaN&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: gnosis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283679</link>
		<dc:creator>gnosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 Seg - Thanks for that link, excellent reporting indeed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 Seg &#8211; Thanks for that link, excellent reporting indeed. </p>
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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283937</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#138, While I am generaly pro-gun rights I am strangely not a gun-nut, ammo has always seemed like a strange form of barter currency for survivalists, after WW-II it was cigarettes, chocolate, and nylon stockings which formed the basis for a barter economy, but a good water filter might be a good idea depending how well financed your water utility is.

Unfortunately some ruling nut almost always goes the route of a big war in the end to &quot;save the nation&quot; from really bad economic times.  that leaves lots of free surplus ammo laying around on the ground for free, along with the surplus flowering of youth wasted before its time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#138, While I am generaly pro-gun rights I am strangely not a gun-nut, ammo has always seemed like a strange form of barter currency for survivalists, after WW-II it was cigarettes, chocolate, and nylon stockings which formed the basis for a barter economy, but a good water filter might be a good idea depending how well financed your water utility is.</p>
<p>Unfortunately some ruling nut almost always goes the route of a big war in the end to &#8220;save the nation&#8221; from really bad economic times.  that leaves lots of free surplus ammo laying around on the ground for free, along with the surplus flowering of youth wasted before its time. </p>
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		<title>By: Enochrewt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283682</link>
		<dc:creator>Enochrewt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know what to say to all this, I mean I could type 5 pages of ranting, but I don&#039;t have the time, nor the inclanation.  Hopefully some good comes from all this turmoil, and the system will purge itself into a more stable position.  

People should take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=LEH&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Lehman Brothers (LEH) on the NYSE&lt;/a&gt; though.  *Giggles*  

And at this point the DJ Industrial is down 218 points.

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know what to say to all this, I mean I could type 5 pages of ranting, but I don&#8217;t have the time, nor the inclanation.  Hopefully some good comes from all this turmoil, and the system will purge itself into a more stable position.  </p>
<p>People should take a look at <a href="http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=LEH" rel="nofollow"> Lehman Brothers (LEH) on the NYSE</a> though.  *Giggles*  </p>
<p>And at this point the DJ Industrial is down 218 points.</p>
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		<title>By: stegodon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283684</link>
		<dc:creator>stegodon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sharpening my skinning knife and drafting my route to HoboCon now. You&#039;ll recognize me. I&#039;ll be manning the squirrel melt kiosk. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sharpening my skinning knife and drafting my route to HoboCon now. You&#8217;ll recognize me. I&#8217;ll be manning the squirrel melt kiosk. </p>
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		<title>By: IamInnocent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283691</link>
		<dc:creator>IamInnocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,

that OK, maybe not what you were lead to hope for but our grand-parents and grand-grand-parents lived and raised families through that nearly a century ago (then 100 families owned 80% of the assets) and I still can see them smiling on their sepia photos.
You are alive aren&#039;t you ? And so are those who you love ?
For myself, as long as I can dream of Xenophilia...
:D

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>that OK, maybe not what you were lead to hope for but our grand-parents and grand-grand-parents lived and raised families through that nearly a century ago (then 100 families owned 80% of the assets) and I still can see them smiling on their sepia photos.<br />
You are alive aren&#8217;t you ? And so are those who you love ?<br />
For myself, as long as I can dream of Xenophilia&#8230;<br />
:D</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: zzjing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284465</link>
		<dc:creator>zzjing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ceronomus: Name-calling and ridicule do not constitute a valid argument.  That&#039;s all you have done so far in this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ceronomus: Name-calling and ridicule do not constitute a valid argument.  That&#8217;s all you have done so far in this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: FoetusNail</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284979</link>
		<dc:creator>FoetusNail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one pays taxes except citizens.

Corporations don&#039;t pay taxes and shouldn&#039;t be collecting taxes for the government. All taxes come out of our pockets one way or the other. I vote for a tiered tax table without exemptions. The only way to get out of paying is if you are disabled, have no earned income, or capital gains. No taxes on SS, and no one collects SS who does not need it. This all means no corporate taxes, no property taxes, no state taxes, no inventory taxes, no estate taxes, no gift taxes, no usage fees, no license fees, no municipal franchise fees, no taxes on fuels, no sales tax or sin tax. No taxes period except individual income tax. The entire tax code on one piece of 8.5 x 14 paper

Think of how much money we would save if corporations were not collecting taxes, fighting taxes, cheating on taxes, or hiring tax accountants and lawyers. Imagine a multi-billion Dollar industry phased out in a matter of ten years. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one pays taxes except citizens.</p>
<p>Corporations don&#8217;t pay taxes and shouldn&#8217;t be collecting taxes for the government. All taxes come out of our pockets one way or the other. I vote for a tiered tax table without exemptions. The only way to get out of paying is if you are disabled, have no earned income, or capital gains. No taxes on SS, and no one collects SS who does not need it. This all means no corporate taxes, no property taxes, no state taxes, no inventory taxes, no estate taxes, no gift taxes, no usage fees, no license fees, no municipal franchise fees, no taxes on fuels, no sales tax or sin tax. No taxes period except individual income tax. The entire tax code on one piece of 8.5 x 14 paper</p>
<p>Think of how much money we would save if corporations were not collecting taxes, fighting taxes, cheating on taxes, or hiring tax accountants and lawyers. Imagine a multi-billion Dollar industry phased out in a matter of ten years. </p>
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		<title>By: JenniferFolly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283703</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferFolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Krugman&#039;s closing word:

&quot;Yikes!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Krugman&#8217;s closing word:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yikes!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Rigney</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283706</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Rigney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William @72 makes a lot of sense to me. If you&#039;ve allocated your investments properly for your risk tolerance, you shouldn&#039;t be messing around with them when there&#039;s blood in the streets.  But it&#039;s easy in a bull market for a person to think they have more risk tolerance than they really do, so I&#039;m sympathetic to people discovering what their real tolerance is.

The open secret to long-term success in investing is to buy when everyone is selling, and sell when everyone is buying.

Foetusnail @73, Sir John Templeton (1912-2008) said &quot;&#039;It&#039;s different this time&#039; are the four most expensive words in the English language.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;The initial fall had brought a prodigious number of sellers to the market; one man&#039;s selling alarms another; and makes him sell, and thus the stock has run down insensibly, till all the people are put in a Fright; and such has been the panic Fear, that it brought great confusion along with it.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  -- re the South Sea bubble of the 1720s, quoted by Edward Chancellor in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Devil-Take-Hindmost-Financial-Speculation/dp/0452281806/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Devil Take the Hindmost&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William @72 makes a lot of sense to me. If you&#8217;ve allocated your investments properly for your risk tolerance, you shouldn&#8217;t be messing around with them when there&#8217;s blood in the streets.  But it&#8217;s easy in a bull market for a person to think they have more risk tolerance than they really do, so I&#8217;m sympathetic to people discovering what their real tolerance is.</p>
<p>The open secret to long-term success in investing is to buy when everyone is selling, and sell when everyone is buying.</p>
<p>Foetusnail @73, Sir John Templeton (1912-2008) said &#8220;&#8216;It&#8217;s different this time&#8217; are the four most expensive words in the English language.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;The initial fall had brought a prodigious number of sellers to the market; one man&#8217;s selling alarms another; and makes him sell, and thus the stock has run down insensibly, till all the people are put in a Fright; and such has been the panic Fear, that it brought great confusion along with it.&#8221;</em>  &#8212; re the South Sea bubble of the 1720s, quoted by Edward Chancellor in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Devil-Take-Hindmost-Financial-Speculation/dp/0452281806/" rel="nofollow"><em>Devil Take the Hindmost</em></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283707</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be noted that the FDIC is just as distressed as the collective group of banks it would insure; some billions covering hundreds of billions of deposits. Odds are the Fed will extend a line to it, inflating the currency so we all have cash in the bank. The consequences of that would involve lots of withdrawing to spend the money before the inflation got worse and worse. So there&#039;s a spiral there as well. Gold and silver are worth having in some quantity. The best investment is in land/seeds/non-perishable food/gardening knowledge. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be noted that the FDIC is just as distressed as the collective group of banks it would insure; some billions covering hundreds of billions of deposits. Odds are the Fed will extend a line to it, inflating the currency so we all have cash in the bank. The consequences of that would involve lots of withdrawing to spend the money before the inflation got worse and worse. So there&#8217;s a spiral there as well. Gold and silver are worth having in some quantity. The best investment is in land/seeds/non-perishable food/gardening knowledge. </p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284477</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supernate, if I may - 

1: Republican talks up markets
1a: Profit!
2: Republican legislates opposite of his talk
2a: Annual Bonus Profit!
3: legislation causes foreseeable disaster
3a: Golden Parachute Profit!
4: market is blamed
4a: return to 1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supernate, if I may &#8211; </p>
<p>1: Republican talks up markets<br />
1a: Profit!<br />
2: Republican legislates opposite of his talk<br />
2a: Annual Bonus Profit!<br />
3: legislation causes foreseeable disaster<br />
3a: Golden Parachute Profit!<br />
4: market is blamed<br />
4a: return to 1</p>
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		<title>By: alowishus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-284481</link>
		<dc:creator>alowishus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing&#039;s for certain: The neocons who got us into this mess definitely read (and reread and memorized) 1984.

Suck you nation&#039;s energy and wealth away with meaningless wars and the populousâ€”poor, tired, and half starvingâ€”suddenly become much easier to control. It&#039;s been happening for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing&#8217;s for certain: The neocons who got us into this mess definitely read (and reread and memorized) 1984.</p>
<p>Suck you nation&#8217;s energy and wealth away with meaningless wars and the populousâ€”poor, tired, and half starvingâ€”suddenly become much easier to control. It&#8217;s been happening for years.</p>
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		<title>By: polizeros</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/14/americas-financial-s.html#comment-283458</link>
		<dc:creator>polizeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are in uncharted territory. Merrill, WaMu, Wachovia, and Morgan Stanley are also thought to be in various stages of the wobbles.

Dow circuitbreakers kick in when the Dow is down 1200 points or about 10%.

When government willfully refuses to regulate, then you can expect stuff like this will eventually happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in uncharted territory. Merrill, WaMu, Wachovia, and Morgan Stanley are also thought to be in various stages of the wobbles.</p>
<p>Dow circuitbreakers kick in when the Dow is down 1200 points or about 10%.</p>
<p>When government willfully refuses to regulate, then you can expect stuff like this will eventually happen.</p>
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