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	<title>Comments on: Hank Paulson&#039;s bailout 419&#160;letter</title>
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		<title>By: Willie McBride</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-290063</link>
		<dc:creator>Willie McBride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny &#039;cause it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny &#8217;cause it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Gag Halfrunt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-290066</link>
		<dc:creator>Gag Halfrunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone&#039;s done &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nigerianscam.net/2008/09/06/nigerian-scam-subject-henry-m-paulson-jr-secretary-of-the-united-states-national-treasury/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another Paulson 419 letter&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone&#8217;s done <a href="http://www.nigerianscam.net/2008/09/06/nigerian-scam-subject-henry-m-paulson-jr-secretary-of-the-united-states-national-treasury/" rel="nofollow">another Paulson 419 letter</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-290079</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.straight.com/article-163205/gwynne-dyer-comrade-bush-and-banks&quot;&gt;interesting article&lt;/a&gt; pointing out that this equates to socialist-style nationalisation...

Not that I&#039;m commenting on the relative merits or not of the nationalisation of institutions, but it is deeply amusing that a far-right leaning Republican administration should be the one responsible for &quot;largest lurch toward socialism that [the] country has ever seen&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.straight.com/article-163205/gwynne-dyer-comrade-bush-and-banks">interesting article</a> pointing out that this equates to socialist-style nationalisation&#8230;</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m commenting on the relative merits or not of the nationalisation of institutions, but it is deeply amusing that a far-right leaning Republican administration should be the one responsible for &#8220;largest lurch toward socialism that [the] country has ever seen&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: OM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-289827</link>
		<dc:creator>OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...And you know, if this actually got mailed out, some sucker would fall for it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;And you know, if this actually got mailed out, some sucker would fall for it.</p>
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		<title>By: cassius chaerea</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-290085</link>
		<dc:creator>cassius chaerea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was written by &quot;JPZenger&quot; on DailyKos, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/9/22/11402/1601/1#c1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt; 





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was written by &#8220;JPZenger&#8221; on DailyKos, <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/9/22/11402/1601/1#c1" rel="nofollow">here.</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Dark Cloud</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-290113</link>
		<dc:creator>Dark Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The greatest swindle in History. Thanks Republicans, for bankrupting the US so badly there will never be any money for anything. Heckova job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest swindle in History. Thanks Republicans, for bankrupting the US so badly there will never be any money for anything. Heckova job.</p>
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		<title>By: joelmichael</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-289877</link>
		<dc:creator>joelmichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha!  I love mocking things... it&#039;s so much easier than putting forth the effort to legitimately understand them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha!  I love mocking things&#8230; it&#8217;s so much easier than putting forth the effort to legitimately understand them!</p>
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		<title>By: SeamusAndrewMurphy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-289878</link>
		<dc:creator>SeamusAndrewMurphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some things are beyond satire.  What Paulson has plannned for the U.S. is unconscionable.  His proposal has carved legislative and judicial exemptions for himself and will derail any hope of a decent future for the poor plebs (me-self included) who will pay for the privelige of making the creditors whole.  Now, look up for yourself who the hell the &quot;creditors&quot; are.

They are right bastards of the first order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things are beyond satire.  What Paulson has plannned for the U.S. is unconscionable.  His proposal has carved legislative and judicial exemptions for himself and will derail any hope of a decent future for the poor plebs (me-self included) who will pay for the privelige of making the creditors whole.  Now, look up for yourself who the hell the &#8220;creditors&#8221; are.</p>
<p>They are right bastards of the first order.</p>
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		<title>By: simplewonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>simplewonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Cheqyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheqyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Close, but not quite ...

1. It needs to be IN ALL CAPS.

2. There aren&#039;t nearly enough misspellings and grammatical errors.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Close, but not quite &#8230;</p>
<p>1. It needs to be IN ALL CAPS.</p>
<p>2. There aren&#8217;t nearly enough misspellings and grammatical errors.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a great analogy. Any loan could construed to sound like an advance-fee fraud, since one party is asking for money from the other in exchange for more money in the future. Whether or not the loan is really advance-fee fraud depends on (1) whether the loaning party has the means to foreclose on the borrower for non-payment, and (2) whether the loaning party has the means to assess the borrower&#039;s ability and likelihood to repay. The bailout certainly meets both of these criteria (not to be a scam), since the federal government surely has the power to gather sufficient credit-related information about any finanical institution receiving bailout loans, and the means to foreclose on any defaulting company.

The unfortunate thing about the bailout is that, by nature of the bailout strategy, the federal government won&#039;t take advantage of either of these means to assess and temper the riskiness of their loans. The point of the bailout is to keep big financial institutions from going bankrupt, so foreclosure is not a real option; and since the loans are to keep failing companies from going bankrupt, the federal government also doesn&#039;t want to give the loans based on companies ability to repay -- they want the loans to go to companies that are the least likely to repay (the ones hurt hardest by the financial crisis). So the bailout is based not only on the premise that the liquidity offered to banks via these loans will be enough to take them from failing to profitable, but also that they will actually use the loans for this purpose despite the fact that their recent history shows them inept at turning liquitidy into profit, and the government&#039;s &quot;don&#039;t let them fail&quot; strategy gives them little incentive to make enough money to repay these loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a great analogy. Any loan could construed to sound like an advance-fee fraud, since one party is asking for money from the other in exchange for more money in the future. Whether or not the loan is really advance-fee fraud depends on (1) whether the loaning party has the means to foreclose on the borrower for non-payment, and (2) whether the loaning party has the means to assess the borrower&#8217;s ability and likelihood to repay. The bailout certainly meets both of these criteria (not to be a scam), since the federal government surely has the power to gather sufficient credit-related information about any finanical institution receiving bailout loans, and the means to foreclose on any defaulting company.</p>
<p>The unfortunate thing about the bailout is that, by nature of the bailout strategy, the federal government won&#8217;t take advantage of either of these means to assess and temper the riskiness of their loans. The point of the bailout is to keep big financial institutions from going bankrupt, so foreclosure is not a real option; and since the loans are to keep failing companies from going bankrupt, the federal government also doesn&#8217;t want to give the loans based on companies ability to repay &#8212; they want the loans to go to companies that are the least likely to repay (the ones hurt hardest by the financial crisis). So the bailout is based not only on the premise that the liquidity offered to banks via these loans will be enough to take them from failing to profitable, but also that they will actually use the loans for this purpose despite the fact that their recent history shows them inept at turning liquitidy into profit, and the government&#8217;s &#8220;don&#8217;t let them fail&#8221; strategy gives them little incentive to make enough money to repay these loans.</p>
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		<title>By: grimc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-289953</link>
		<dc:creator>grimc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#2

If you need help understanding Paulson&#039;s power grab, I&#039;m sure plenty of folks would be happy to explain it to you. Would hate for you to miss out on the comedy.</description>
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<p>If you need help understanding Paulson&#8217;s power grab, I&#8217;m sure plenty of folks would be happy to explain it to you. Would hate for you to miss out on the comedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Trumbull</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-290761</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Trumbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a reading of this. I called it Nigeria on the Potomac. 
The link is http://www.storyspieler.com/Nigeria.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a reading of this. I called it Nigeria on the Potomac.<br />
The link is <a href="http://www.storyspieler.com/Nigeria.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.storyspieler.com/Nigeria.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: evamoon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-300247</link>
		<dc:creator>evamoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some more bailout humor - a funny song about the Wall Street mess. Anything to lighten up a grim topic: &lt;a href=&quot;http://evamoon.net/blog/2008/10/02/bailout-man/&quot;&gt;Bailout song&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some more bailout humor &#8211; a funny song about the Wall Street mess. Anything to lighten up a grim topic: <a href="http://evamoon.net/blog/2008/10/02/bailout-man/">Bailout song</a></p>
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		<title>By: OM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/hank-paulsons-bailou.html#comment-290277</link>
		<dc:creator>OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Oh, this makes me wish I still had my copy of that Wes Crusher MAKE CREDITS FAST parody I did back in &#039;88. The sad part about this one, tho, is that it&#039;s too true to be really that funny.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Oh, this makes me wish I still had my copy of that Wes Crusher MAKE CREDITS FAST parody I did back in &#8217;88. The sad part about this one, tho, is that it&#8217;s too true to be really that funny.</p>
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