Comments on: What the TSA's new body scanner images look like http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 01:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Sekino http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315392 Sekino Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315392 <i>These scans have been photo shopped to de-emphasize the resolution of "camel toe" and "twig and berries".</i> Oh, well in that case, I can see some people having problems with it. Plus with the types they hire in airport security, I don't know what's more gross between having them looking at naked pictures of you or touching you. Tough choice. These scans have been photo shopped to de-emphasize the resolution of “camel toe” and “twig and berries”.

Oh, well in that case, I can see some people having problems with it. Plus with the types they hire in airport security, I don’t know what’s more gross between having them looking at naked pictures of you or touching you. Tough choice.

]]> By: urshrew http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315395 urshrew Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315395 This is getting ridiculous. Why do we have to be punished by having out bodies displayed for retarded TSA officials to drool over just because we're using air travel? Its not going to catch a single terrorist, just give the TSA another scandal to spend our tax dollars on covering their asses for it. What country can I move to where this crap isn't tolerated? This is getting ridiculous. Why do we have to be punished by having out bodies displayed for retarded TSA officials to drool over just because we’re using air travel? Its not going to catch a single terrorist, just give the TSA another scandal to spend our tax dollars on covering their asses for it.

What country can I move to where this crap isn’t tolerated?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-942600 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-942600 They are going about this all wrong. Why can't they just develop a machine that you enter. As you enter thru a typical metal detector to check for guns etc..then all the doors close and it is designed to put out a signal that will detonate any explosive device on your body and contain the explosion. I can almost hear it now "Ladies and Gentlemen, we now have a seat available on flight #1234 to Washington DC." The new scanners are simply wrong! They are going about this all wrong. Why can’t they just develop a machine that you enter. As you enter thru a typical metal detector to check for guns etc..then all the doors close and it is designed to put out a signal that will detonate any explosive device on your body and contain the explosion.
I can almost hear it now “Ladies and Gentlemen, we now have a seat available on flight #1234 to Washington DC.”

The new scanners are simply wrong!

]]> By: warmlogic http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315915 warmlogic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315915 I wouldn't call these body scanners "new". The TSA has had at least one body scanner at each security checkpoint in PHX (Phoenix, AZ, USA) for probably 4 years now. Also, I flew out of DIA (Denver, CO, USA) today, and 2 of the 6 (maybe 7) security lines had these body scanners directly after the standard metal detector. Passengers could choose which line to wait in, so I purposely avoided the ones with the body scanner, but I saw plenty of people going through them. They've been there since at least Feb 2008, the first time I actually went through security in DIA. I wouldn’t call these body scanners “new”.

The TSA has had at least one body scanner at each security checkpoint in PHX (Phoenix, AZ, USA) for probably 4 years now.

Also, I flew out of DIA (Denver, CO, USA) today, and 2 of the 6 (maybe 7) security lines had these body scanners directly after the standard metal detector. Passengers could choose which line to wait in, so I purposely avoided the ones with the body scanner, but I saw plenty of people going through them. They’ve been there since at least Feb 2008, the first time I actually went through security in DIA.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-951821 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-951821 Yes, you can opt out. The pat-down I received was courteous and respectful; I did not feel violated at any point. BUT... I still believe that this is overkill. Like it or not, we will NEVER be able to fully secure our borders or our airports, but sacrificing liberty for security is not what our country is about. If you want better security, go live in a totalitarian police state. Yes, you can opt out. The pat-down I received was courteous and respectful; I did not feel violated at any point. BUT… I still believe that this is overkill. Like it or not, we will NEVER be able to fully secure our borders or our airports, but sacrificing liberty for security is not what our country is about. If you want better security, go live in a totalitarian police state.

]]> By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315920 Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315920 MercuryTransit @28, Sekino's right. They thought your shark's tooth was cool, so they stole it. Would you like another one? AngusM @32, given what we know about their other behavior, I see no reason to believe they'll respect the privacy of these images. Chopp3r @38: And your point is? All it shows is that you're willing to read Matt Drudge. Tharklord @37, 40: I can't stop giggling every time I think of your suggestions. Good thing I don't have any funerals to attend just now. MercuryTransit @28, Sekino’s right. They thought your shark’s tooth was cool, so they stole it.

Would you like another one?

AngusM @32, given what we know about their other behavior, I see no reason to believe they’ll respect the privacy of these images.

Chopp3r @38: And your point is? All it shows is that you’re willing to read Matt Drudge.

Tharklord @37, 40: I can’t stop giggling every time I think of your suggestions. Good thing I don’t have any funerals to attend just now.

]]> By: bobhughes http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315410 bobhughes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315410 So which is it neocons? Either we reverse our nation's course of becoming a police state, or TSA gets to see (and most certainly save & share photos online) of your tiny shriveled dicks. Decisions, decisions. So which is it neocons? Either we reverse our nation’s course of becoming a police state, or TSA gets to see (and most certainly save & share photos online) of your tiny shriveled dicks. Decisions, decisions.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-941075 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-941075 When one has had cancer and 33 days of radiation therapy, one tends to ask questions ...Like why not 37 days or 20 days. I was advised by a radiation oncologist that our bodies can tolerate a specific amount because radiation causes blood vessels to narrow. They continue to narrow until there is insufficient blood supply to keep the body tissues alive..then necrosis sets in. How many times can we go thru these scanners, be xrayed by a dentist, doctor, given treatment?? These scanners are a class action case waiting to happen and who will pay the bill...why again the taxpayers. Oh JOY!! The next problem is the TSA PG's (pervert gropers) It must be nice to actually be paid to grope ...there are a lot of folks in prison...who could actually be out working for Homeland Security, being productive and STILL enjoying themselves. Flying anywhere is becoming a very ugly prospect. When one has had cancer and 33 days of radiation therapy, one tends to ask questions …Like why not 37 days or 20 days. I was advised by a radiation oncologist that our bodies can tolerate a specific amount because radiation causes blood vessels to narrow. They continue to narrow until there is insufficient blood supply to keep the body tissues alive..then necrosis sets in. How many times can we go thru these scanners, be xrayed by a dentist, doctor, given treatment?? These scanners are a class action case waiting to happen and who will pay the bill…why again the taxpayers. Oh JOY!!
The next problem is the TSA PG’s (pervert gropers) It must be nice to actually be paid to grope …there are a lot of folks in prison…who could actually be out working for Homeland Security, being productive and STILL enjoying themselves. Flying anywhere is becoming a very ugly prospect.

]]> By: hapaxLegomina http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315414 hapaxLegomina Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315414 Wow. I have mixed feelings. On the one hand this will cut down on false alarms and increase security. On the other this is amazingly invasive. If this is ever put into practice, it needs to be monitored off-site by mixed gender guards. Wow. I have mixed feelings. On the one hand this will cut down on false alarms and increase security. On the other this is amazingly invasive. If this is ever put into practice, it needs to be monitored off-site by mixed gender guards.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-947225 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-947225 Those photos are bogus...if it can penetrate the top layer of clothing, why do we see a hint of a bra and panties? Because it's been photo shopped and the nipples and genitalia have been blurred. Those photos are bogus…if it can penetrate the top layer of clothing, why do we see a hint of a bra and panties? Because it’s been photo shopped and the nipples and genitalia have been blurred.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315417 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315417 Yeah, I'm sure a few of women will have problems knowing their breasts( and tummies) will be virtually fully exposed; but a <i>lot</i> of women aren't going to be happy with cleft of their labial folds exposed. So who's wearing some jewelry downtown? Yeah, I’m sure a few of women will have problems knowing their breasts( and tummies) will be virtually fully exposed; but a lot of women aren’t going to be happy with cleft of their labial folds exposed. So who’s wearing some jewelry downtown?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315676 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315676 What RAD does that machine put out? I understand it's not going to be used like a metal detector on every passanger... until it's cost effecient. After that you know it will be. and the radiation airline staff is bad enough at 30k feet this is only going add to the absorbed dose. Low kVp machines like those will have low pentration and a higher BERT value because of it. The lens of your eye is one of the most radiosensitive organs and will pretty much absorb all those photons hitting them. What RAD does that machine put out? I understand it’s not going to be used like a metal detector on every passanger… until it’s cost effecient. After that you know it will be. and the radiation airline staff is bad enough at 30k feet this is only going add to the absorbed dose. Low kVp machines like those will have low pentration and a higher BERT value because of it. The lens of your eye is one of the most radiosensitive organs and will pretty much absorb all those photons hitting them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315422 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315422 I see an upsurge in the cock ring market. I see an upsurge in the cock ring market.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-316191 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-316191 My question is this: If this device is "harmless" as everyone says it is, will TSA officials be required to pass through it everyday they are employed? Or will they use the ubiquitous "side-entrance"? I already know the answer anyways. My question is this:

If this device is “harmless” as everyone says it is, will TSA officials be required to pass through it everyday they are employed? Or will they use the ubiquitous “side-entrance”?

I already know the answer anyways.

]]> By: The Jones Ultimatum http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-316451 The Jones Ultimatum Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-316451 This device cannot possibly be harmless.Look at the wavelengths people. This will lead to some horrible cancers no doubt. Disgusting. THIS is freedom? This device cannot possibly be harmless.Look at the wavelengths people.
This will lead to some horrible cancers no doubt.
Disgusting.
THIS is freedom?

]]> By: bobhughes http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315429 bobhughes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315429 screw mixed gender guards, this should only be monitored by sexless eunuch androids. Otherwise, it qualifies as sexual harassment, which I feel it is. screw mixed gender guards, this should only be monitored by sexless eunuch androids. Otherwise, it qualifies as sexual harassment, which I feel it is.

]]> By: avraamov http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315685 avraamov Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315685 cotton / fine aluminium mesh underwear carrying a low voltage charge for sale. 50 pairs. get em while they're hot. anyone interested? cotton / fine aluminium mesh underwear carrying a low voltage charge for sale. 50 pairs. get em while they’re hot. anyone interested?

]]> By: jackie31337 http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-316454 jackie31337 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-316454 lukus @50 <i>The best way to deal with this is to get a bunch of naturists (or people happy to become naturists for the day) and travel through the airport screening gates naked. Who's willing to give it a go?</i> I had the same idea. Organize a mass protest at airports around the country in which people start stripping at the metal detectors. For plausible deniability, they can claim they thoughts that the TSA now required strip searches of all passengers. If I didn't have a thing about pain and my SO didn't have a dislike of tattoos, I would also consider getting the text of the 4th amendment tattooed on my butt in ink that would show as opaque on an x-ray. lukus @50 The best way to deal with this is to get a bunch of naturists (or people happy to become naturists for the day) and travel through the airport screening gates naked. Who’s willing to give it a go?

I had the same idea. Organize a mass protest at airports around the country in which people start stripping at the metal detectors. For plausible deniability, they can claim they thoughts that the TSA now required strip searches of all passengers.

If I didn’t have a thing about pain and my SO didn’t have a dislike of tattoos, I would also consider getting the text of the 4th amendment tattooed on my butt in ink that would show as opaque on an x-ray.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-949039 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-949039 Don't tase my junk bro... Don’t tase my junk bro…

]]> By: mercurytransit http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315444 mercurytransit Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315444 The TSA just confiscated my 50 million year old shark's tooth. Naturally, being a shark tooth it was sharp but I packed it in my checked-in luggage. Being a fossil it was stone and so posed no biological threat. I didn't find out it had gone until I got home. They just removed it without any explanation. I don't understand why they would do that. It wasn't worth anything but I loved it and thought it was fascinating. The TSA just confiscated my 50 million year old shark’s tooth. Naturally, being a shark tooth it was sharp but I packed it in my checked-in luggage. Being a fossil it was stone and so posed no biological threat. I didn’t find out it had gone until I got home. They just removed it without any explanation. I don’t understand why they would do that. It wasn’t worth anything but I loved it and thought it was fascinating.

]]> By: jenjen http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315700 jenjen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315700 Wow, I can't wait to see pix of scanned LiLo and Britney up on TMZ. Wow, I can’t wait to see pix of scanned LiLo and Britney up on TMZ.

]]> By: mwschmeer http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315451 mwschmeer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315451 Well, I guess I'll have to drive to Europe now. Well, I guess I’ll have to drive to Europe now.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-943677 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-943677 Not everybody is going to visually pleasing to the TSA folks. While they will probably have a hard on from time to time during the workday, the TSA will have to look at some people who nobody wants to see naked. Not everybody is going to visually pleasing to the TSA folks. While they will probably have a hard on from time to time during the workday, the TSA will have to look at some people who nobody wants to see naked.

]]> By: coldspell http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-317247 coldspell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-317247 What's the big deal? The TSA employees are trained professionals. I don't think they would do anything that would risk the privacy of the passengers they are protecting. What’s the big deal? The TSA employees are trained professionals. I don’t think they would do anything that would risk the privacy of the passengers they are protecting.

]]> By: The Unusual Suspect http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315456 The Unusual Suspect Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315456 "...it needs to be monitored off-site by mixed gender guards." Where do you recruit a mixed gender guard? And if you do hire one, how will s/he take it when an irate passenger tells her/him to go f**k her/himself? Literally, I hope. “…it needs to be monitored off-site by mixed gender guards.”

Where do you recruit a mixed gender guard?

And if you do hire one, how will s/he take it when an irate passenger tells her/him to go f**k her/himself?

Literally, I hope.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-941121 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-941121 im a 25 yr old female.. and im totally against these scanners.. but hey, might as well bend over and give 'em a good pose if they're going to take a nudey pic .. im a 25 yr old female.. and im totally against these scanners.. but hey, might as well bend over and give ‘em a good pose if they’re going to take a nudey pic ..

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-320071 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-320071 I'm thinking messages could be written with zinc oxide (sunblock). Metallic and relatively non-toxic. I’m thinking messages could be written with zinc oxide (sunblock). Metallic and relatively non-toxic.

]]> By: Datura Greenleaf http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-928333 Datura Greenleaf Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-928333 I can't believe that airport security could get away with this. This is just convincing me even more to not ever visit the U.S again. I can’t believe that airport security could get away with this. This is just convincing me even more to not ever visit the U.S again.

]]> By: Frank_in_Virginia http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315474 Frank_in_Virginia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315474 I'm with CLAIRMONDE. This, yet another example of security theater, exposes for the sake of exposure. The TSA goons will have a field day with this infernal device. I’m with CLAIRMONDE. This, yet another example of security theater, exposes for the sake of exposure. The TSA goons will have a field day with this infernal device.

]]> By: angusm http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/what-the-tsas-new-bo.html#comment-315478 angusm Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-315478 If I remember correctly, that particular image appeared in news stories about 12 months ago, and is actually of a senior TSA official who was demonstrating the equipment. Despite the claims that the images cannot be saved, I will give it about three days at most from the time the machines are first deployed until pictures (real or faked) of named celebrities start appearing online. Followed by any number of pictures of random members of the public with unusually good (or bad) figures. I should register "scannerporn.com" and "tsaporn.com" now and make my fortune. If I remember correctly, that particular image appeared in news stories about 12 months ago, and is actually of a senior TSA official who was demonstrating the equipment.

Despite the claims that the images cannot be saved, I will give it about three days at most from the time the machines are first deployed until pictures (real or faked) of named celebrities start appearing online. Followed by any number of pictures of random members of the public with unusually good (or bad) figures.

I should register “scannerporn.com” and “tsaporn.com” now and make my fortune.

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