Comments on: Digital Youth Project: If you care about kids and want to understand how they use technology and why, this is a must-read http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 05:58:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: arkizzle http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335430 arkizzle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335430 Should read: "<i>..including the incomparable <b>D</b>anah <b>B</b>oyd..</i>" Looks like a great read, though. Should read: “..including the incomparable Danah Boyd..”

Looks like a great read, though.

]]> By: littlebear http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335463 littlebear Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335463 #3 - except that danah boyd spells it danah boyd. (thanks for making the .pdf, matt!) #3 – except that danah boyd spells it danah boyd.

(thanks for making the .pdf, matt!)

]]> By: la_tante http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335209 la_tante Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335209 wow. this is so fabulous. as a teacher, i'm always looking for ways to understand my kiddos better, and i can't wait to read this paper--just the 2 page abstract is fascinating. windows into their lives are always helpful. i run the online program for our district, and it's always a challenge to explain how technology is impacting our students to other teachers, many of whom live in fear of the kids "facebooking" (ugh colleagues' word, not mine) or "myspacing". so many people (read: teachers and administrators) in the older generation are terrified of youth use of the internet and cell phones because those things widen the locus of control and those old school educators don't like that. but the american education system usually operates from a re-act rather than an act stance. and to me, that signals we operate from fear rather than curiosity. i'm curious myself to see if this information is used at all by the educational system. or if it's just relegated to the circular file, deemed too revolutionary. wow. this is so fabulous. as a teacher, i’m always looking for ways to understand my kiddos better, and i can’t wait to read this paper–just the 2 page abstract is fascinating. windows into their lives are always helpful. i run the online program for our district, and it’s always a challenge to explain how technology is impacting our students to other teachers, many of whom live in fear of the kids “facebooking” (ugh colleagues’ word, not mine) or “myspacing”. so many people (read: teachers and administrators) in the older generation are terrified of youth use of the internet and cell phones because those things widen the locus of control and those old school educators don’t like that. but the american education system usually operates from a re-act rather than an act stance. and to me, that signals we operate from fear rather than curiosity. i’m curious myself to see if this information is used at all by the educational system. or if it’s just relegated to the circular file, deemed too revolutionary.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335980 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335980 Thanks for the info CD. As an academic librarian trying to reach Millenials/Digital Natives/the next kewl name for we live for stuff like this. Thanks for the info CD. As an academic librarian trying to reach Millenials/Digital Natives/the next kewl name for we live for stuff like this.

]]> By: Alys http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335471 Alys Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335471 I'm looking forward to reading this - I was able to manage about half the introduction on my breaks at work before I was interrupted. Thanks to Matt for the PDF of the book - much appreciated! I’m looking forward to reading this – I was able to manage about half the introduction on my breaks at work before I was interrupted.

Thanks to Matt for the PDF of the book – much appreciated!

]]> By: mwsmedia http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335217 mwsmedia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335217 I'm keenly interested in reading the entire book, but I don't want to do it on my computer, and I figure a lot of other folks might feel the same way... so I created a PDF version. I also made an Open Office ODT version for easy conversion to other formats, if you like. <a href="http://www.mattselznick.com/blog/scribtotum/2008/11/20/study-on-young-peoples-use-of-new-media-and-social-networking-released/" rel="nofollow">Find PDF and ODT versions of ""Hanging Out, Messing Around, and Geeking Out: Kids Living and Learning with New Media" at mattselznick.com.</a> Cheers, Matt I’m keenly interested in reading the entire book, but I don’t want to do it on my computer, and I figure a lot of other folks might feel the same way… so I created a PDF version.

I also made an Open Office ODT version for easy conversion to other formats, if you like.

Find PDF and ODT versions of “”Hanging Out, Messing Around, and Geeking Out: Kids Living and Learning with New Media” at mattselznick.com.

Cheers,

Matt

]]> By: arkizzle http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335516 arkizzle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335516 #4 LittleBear “<i>eXistenZ. Written like this, one word. Small e, capital X (i-s-t-e-n) capital Z</i>” #4 LittleBear

“eXistenZ. Written like this, one word. Small e, capital X (i-s-t-e-n) capital Z”

]]> By: Birdseed http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-336810 Birdseed Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-336810 Isn't "hanging out", "messing around" and "geeking out" pretty much the basis of all human understanding? Well, ignoring traditional teacher-driven knowledge, but who learns most of their stuff from that? Isn’t “hanging out”, “messing around” and “geeking out” pretty much the basis of all human understanding? Well, ignoring traditional teacher-driven knowledge, but who learns most of their stuff from that?

]]> By: Ben Sharpe http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335787 Ben Sharpe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335787 Must Read: "Grown up Digital" by Don Tapscott. Join the discussion @ http://www.grownupdigital.com/ Must Read: “Grown up Digital” by Don Tapscott.

Join the discussion @ http://www.grownupdigital.com/

]]> By: Birdseed http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-336811 Birdseed Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-336811 Oh, and, #4: I always correct "corporate logo" style names, too. I'm in control of my language, not some faceless capitalist designer/marketing rep/kid who wants to be "different". Oh, and, #4: I always correct “corporate logo” style names, too. I’m in control of my language, not some faceless capitalist designer/marketing rep/kid who wants to be “different”.

]]> By: sojourner strange http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-335535 sojourner strange Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-335535 The New York Times picked this up and... translated "lol" as "laugh out loud." FAIL. The New York Times picked this up and… translated “lol” as “laugh out loud.” FAIL.

]]> By: bbreader http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-336579 bbreader Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-336579 <em>the "serious" stuff we all hope kids will do online (researching papers and so on) are only possible within a framework of "hanging out, messing around and geeking out." That is to say, all the "time-wasting" social stuff kids do online are key to their explorations and education online.</em> I wish this were true. I cannot begin to tell you the number of college students I see on a daily basis who don't even have rudimentary abilities with word processing applications let alone other tools, applications, and abilities fast becoming the minimum tool box needed. If you know something about computers and use them in your work I would strongly urge you to quiz your child on the basics that you know and use each day. I think most parents will be unpleasantly surprised by the digital illiteracy they uncover. Your parents may not have been able to help you with computers but you can help your kids. the “serious” stuff we all hope kids will do online (researching papers and so on) are only possible within a framework of “hanging out, messing around and geeking out.” That is to say, all the “time-wasting” social stuff kids do online are key to their explorations and education online.

I wish this were true.

I cannot begin to tell you the number of college students I see on a daily basis who don’t even have rudimentary abilities with word processing applications let alone other tools, applications, and abilities fast becoming the minimum tool box needed.

If you know something about computers and use them in your work I would strongly urge you to quiz your child on the basics that you know and use each day. I think most parents will be unpleasantly surprised by the digital illiteracy they uncover.

Your parents may not have been able to help you with computers but you can help your kids.

]]> By: arkizzle http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-337123 arkizzle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-337123 Birdseed: Yep. <a href="http://procrastineering.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Procrastineering</a> (best word evar!!1!) Birdseed: Yep.

Procrastineering

(best word evar!!1!)

]]> By: buddy66 http://boingboing.net/2008/11/20/digital-youth-projec.html#comment-337133 buddy66 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-337133 At some point, probably during adolescence, danah boyd got hit in the head with a copy of "The Collected Poems of e.e. cummings" At some point, probably during adolescence, danah boyd got hit in the head with a copy of “The Collected Poems of e.e. cummings”

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