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		<title>By: buddy66</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352776</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some guy won a design contest with this idea twenty years ago. I printed a pic and the text, then made up a phony bit about how there was a long waiting list in San Francisco. I now see it was more prophecy than comedy.

As our nation crumbles around us we could do worse than pursue further research and development on such dwellings. A whole lot of restrictive lace curtain laws regarding how people live and survive are going to be abandoned as more and more Americans enter the brave new Third World. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some guy won a design contest with this idea twenty years ago. I printed a pic and the text, then made up a phony bit about how there was a long waiting list in San Francisco. I now see it was more prophecy than comedy.</p>
<p>As our nation crumbles around us we could do worse than pursue further research and development on such dwellings. A whole lot of restrictive lace curtain laws regarding how people live and survive are going to be abandoned as more and more Americans enter the brave new Third World. </p>
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		<title>By: gollor</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352526</link>
		<dc:creator>gollor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=328395

I can understand wanting to give them a sturdy shelter, but $400 a pop? Seems like getting more people shelter for less might be a better option.</description>
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<p>I can understand wanting to give them a sturdy shelter, but $400 a pop? Seems like getting more people shelter for less might be a better option.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352527</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;parasite&quot; is the designer&#039;s term from the &quot;parasite on waste heat&quot; from high rise HVAC vents at street level. Parasite is a neutral engineering term in that context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;parasite&#8221; is the designer&#8217;s term from the &#8220;parasite on waste heat&#8221; from high rise HVAC vents at street level. Parasite is a neutral engineering term in that context.</p>
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		<title>By: jtegnell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352528</link>
		<dc:creator>jtegnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good!

After we give everyone one of these, we&#039;ve solved the problem. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good!</p>
<p>After we give everyone one of these, we&#8217;ve solved the problem. </p>
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		<title>By: JayReeder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352785</link>
		<dc:creator>JayReeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a terminology problem.  &quot;Homelessness&quot; isn&#039;t the problem.  Untreated mental illness with co-occuring substance abuse is the problem.

When someone who is neither psychotic nor substance-abusing falls on hard times and loses their home, studies have shown that the average time that they will remain homeless is one (1) day.

Sure, buy some tents as a stopgap.  But realize that it is a stopgap, and no substitute for providing mental health care to those who need it.  And also realize that those need inpatient mental health care the most are unlikely to voluntarily seek treatment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a terminology problem.  &#8220;Homelessness&#8221; isn&#8217;t the problem.  Untreated mental illness with co-occuring substance abuse is the problem.</p>
<p>When someone who is neither psychotic nor substance-abusing falls on hard times and loses their home, studies have shown that the average time that they will remain homeless is one (1) day.</p>
<p>Sure, buy some tents as a stopgap.  But realize that it is a stopgap, and no substitute for providing mental health care to those who need it.  And also realize that those need inpatient mental health care the most are unlikely to voluntarily seek treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352530</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eg:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_aircraft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eg:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_aircraft" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_aircraft</a></p>
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		<title>By: Futuro</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352534</link>
		<dc:creator>Futuro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This concept was first(to my knowledge) put forth over a decade ago in a book called &#039;Public Therapy Buses&#039; from ten speed press.  It was a collection of near future innovations and inventions. More recently in DC, a homeless man cycled into Farragut park towing a homemade trailer of similar utility as the one above, but with storage compartments and a smaller trailer for his dog.  Congratulations to Mr. Samuelson for making this a production reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This concept was first(to my knowledge) put forth over a decade ago in a book called &#8216;Public Therapy Buses&#8217; from ten speed press.  It was a collection of near future innovations and inventions. More recently in DC, a homeless man cycled into Farragut park towing a homemade trailer of similar utility as the one above, but with storage compartments and a smaller trailer for his dog.  Congratulations to Mr. Samuelson for making this a production reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Leber</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352538</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Leber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The cost of building or refurbishing a traditional shelter is approximately $100,000 per bed created.&quot; --from edar.org

So my four bedroom Cape Cod should be worth somewhere between half a million and a million dollars...

I agree with #10 that there won&#039;t be universal agreement among the homeless that this is not as good as a shelter bed. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The cost of building or refurbishing a traditional shelter is approximately $100,000 per bed created.&#8221; &#8211;from edar.org</p>
<p>So my four bedroom Cape Cod should be worth somewhere between half a million and a million dollars&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with #10 that there won&#8217;t be universal agreement among the homeless that this is not as good as a shelter bed. </p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352796</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>governments &quot;saving money&quot; by de-institutionalizing the mentally ill (&quot;throwing them into the street&quot;) also threw them into the hands of the bottom-end drug dealers. They are the hopeless homeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>governments &#8220;saving money&#8221; by de-institutionalizing the mentally ill (&#8220;throwing them into the street&#8221;) also threw them into the hands of the bottom-end drug dealers. They are the hopeless homeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352553</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.bigskygypsy.com/Images/gypsy%20caravans.jpg</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352559</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.womenofthefurtrade.com/wst_page16.html</description>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also known as &quot;tents&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also known as &#8220;tents&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hungryjoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352822</link>
		<dc:creator>hungryjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 has it right.  These portable shelters are based on a conception of the homeless as rebels against society, to be supported in their lifestyle choice.

The vast majority of homeless persons are so because of a mental health issue, to include substance abuse.

Organizations distributing shelters like this are merely introducing a new commodity to this very basic level of the economy.  It doesn&#039;t hurt, but it doesn&#039;t help, either.

#36 makes a good point, as well.  If we can&#039;t afford to address the root problem, there are better ways to make the streets survivable.  While these portable shelters are a charming design problem for well-meaning industrial designers, tarps, fleece blankets, waterproof stuff sacks, and possibly mosquito nets would be more effective in every respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 has it right.  These portable shelters are based on a conception of the homeless as rebels against society, to be supported in their lifestyle choice.</p>
<p>The vast majority of homeless persons are so because of a mental health issue, to include substance abuse.</p>
<p>Organizations distributing shelters like this are merely introducing a new commodity to this very basic level of the economy.  It doesn&#8217;t hurt, but it doesn&#8217;t help, either.</p>
<p>#36 makes a good point, as well.  If we can&#8217;t afford to address the root problem, there are better ways to make the streets survivable.  While these portable shelters are a charming design problem for well-meaning industrial designers, tarps, fleece blankets, waterproof stuff sacks, and possibly mosquito nets would be more effective in every respect.</p>
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		<title>By: hexayurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>hexayurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or go open source:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hexayurt.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Hexayurt refugee shelter&lt;/a&gt; which, for homeless populations, could be made in a folding edition out of, say, corrugated plastic for about $20 a pop and then given away to people who need overnight shelter.

You can get a pretty good idea of what that kind of shelter would look like &lt;a href=&quot;http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/hexayurt/hexayurts-in-new-hampshire-25&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;from this unit made of old political campaign signs!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or go open source:</p>
<p><a href="http://hexayurt.com" rel="nofollow">The Hexayurt refugee shelter</a> which, for homeless populations, could be made in a folding edition out of, say, corrugated plastic for about $20 a pop and then given away to people who need overnight shelter.</p>
<p>You can get a pretty good idea of what that kind of shelter would look like <a href="http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/hexayurt/hexayurts-in-new-hampshire-25" rel="nofollow">from this unit made of old political campaign signs!</a></p>
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		<title>By: zikzak</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352588</link>
		<dc:creator>zikzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of homeless people aren&#039;t comfortable staying in shelters, because shelters are often terrible places to be.  You&#039;re put in close quarters with a lot of other people, and while most are perfectly acceptable people, there are bound to be some who are smelly, loud, insane, thieves, contagious, etc.  In addition, the staff of many shelters are indistinguishable from prison guards, exerting arbitrary authority and treating people like animals.

After dealing with shelters for a little while, it&#039;s no surprise that people end up sleeping outside, where at least they have some semblance of freedom, independence and self-respect.  However sleeping outside is dangerous, especially in regions where it gets cold.  In northern US cities, people freeze to death every year, huddled outside warm empty buildings.

This idea seems like penny ante compared to the increasingly popular and effective strategy of providing actual transitional housing instead of shelter.  But if it can save the lives of people who (quite justifiably) reject sleeping in a shelter, it&#039;s probably worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of homeless people aren&#8217;t comfortable staying in shelters, because shelters are often terrible places to be.  You&#8217;re put in close quarters with a lot of other people, and while most are perfectly acceptable people, there are bound to be some who are smelly, loud, insane, thieves, contagious, etc.  In addition, the staff of many shelters are indistinguishable from prison guards, exerting arbitrary authority and treating people like animals.</p>
<p>After dealing with shelters for a little while, it&#8217;s no surprise that people end up sleeping outside, where at least they have some semblance of freedom, independence and self-respect.  However sleeping outside is dangerous, especially in regions where it gets cold.  In northern US cities, people freeze to death every year, huddled outside warm empty buildings.</p>
<p>This idea seems like penny ante compared to the increasingly popular and effective strategy of providing actual transitional housing instead of shelter.  But if it can save the lives of people who (quite justifiably) reject sleeping in a shelter, it&#8217;s probably worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352850</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised how much people here know about this subject.  You&#039;d think people posting on an Internet chat forum wouldn&#039;t spend a lot of their time amongst the homeless!  In fact, you&#039;d think the lifestyles would be so far apart that each would appear insane from the others&#039; point of view.

Prolly mucked up the grammar there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised how much people here know about this subject.  You&#8217;d think people posting on an Internet chat forum wouldn&#8217;t spend a lot of their time amongst the homeless!  In fact, you&#8217;d think the lifestyles would be so far apart that each would appear insane from the others&#8217; point of view.</p>
<p>Prolly mucked up the grammar there.</p>
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		<title>By: manicbassman</title>
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		<dc:creator>manicbassman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;se guys are going to need a lot of these pretty soon... loads of forclosures to come with all the job losses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;se guys are going to need a lot of these pretty soon&#8230; loads of forclosures to come with all the job losses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: manicbassman</title>
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		<dc:creator>manicbassman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you won&#039;t get a &quot;Big Squat&quot;... no doubt, Haliburton and Blackwater have already sewn up the contract to police the repo&#039;d properties and will use lethal force to keep them empty for the banks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you won&#8217;t get a &#8220;Big Squat&#8221;&#8230; no doubt, Haliburton and Blackwater have already sewn up the contract to police the repo&#8217;d properties and will use lethal force to keep them empty for the banks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.geocities.com/stevenedw/amsterdamsquatting.html</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania</description>
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		<title>By: redstarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>redstarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they should make them a more highly visible color,too.  Maybe a bright neon color?  Then it would also be extra effective in making the homelessness visible.  I saw somewhere a while back where a group gave homeless people some sort of brightly colored umbrella/tent type things city wide and the effect was astonishing.  It made the city and it&#039;s citizens really see visually how bad the homeless problem was.  People without homes visually blend in with the hustle and bustle of urban life and become a part of the cityscape.  Super visible tents would not only shelter them from the elements,but could also draw needed attention to their plight and help them get the aid they really need on the scale they really need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should make them a more highly visible color,too.  Maybe a bright neon color?  Then it would also be extra effective in making the homelessness visible.  I saw somewhere a while back where a group gave homeless people some sort of brightly colored umbrella/tent type things city wide and the effect was astonishing.  It made the city and it&#8217;s citizens really see visually how bad the homeless problem was.  People without homes visually blend in with the hustle and bustle of urban life and become a part of the cityscape.  Super visible tents would not only shelter them from the elements,but could also draw needed attention to their plight and help them get the aid they really need on the scale they really need.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
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		<description>what made traditional nomad tent living work?

If a city gives these wheeled shelters to the homeless, they have to also give them designated sites scattered around the city to set up in. Sites with showers, toilets, covered cooking areas, some government presence and security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what made traditional nomad tent living work?</p>
<p>If a city gives these wheeled shelters to the homeless, they have to also give them designated sites scattered around the city to set up in. Sites with showers, toilets, covered cooking areas, some government presence and security.</p>
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		<title>By: redstarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>redstarr</dc:creator>
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		<description>#24, You may be right, the visibility might make some of them more of target for violence, abuse, theft of what little they have, etc.  I hadn&#039;t thought of it from the need to be less visible angle.  

#55  Interesting idea.  I bet there&#039;s a lot of organizations that don&#039;t even know about those blankets and/or where to get them.  I didn&#039;t know there was such a thing till you mentioned it and I googled it.  Those could be a really helpful thing that would be affordable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24, You may be right, the visibility might make some of them more of target for violence, abuse, theft of what little they have, etc.  I hadn&#8217;t thought of it from the need to be less visible angle.  </p>
<p>#55  Interesting idea.  I bet there&#8217;s a lot of organizations that don&#8217;t even know about those blankets and/or where to get them.  I didn&#8217;t know there was such a thing till you mentioned it and I googled it.  Those could be a really helpful thing that would be affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy66</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352872</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; &quot;Homelessness&quot; isn&#039;t the problem. Untreated mental illness with co-occuring substance abuse is the problem. &lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s going to change. The ranks of the homeless will grow to include people whose only disorder is homelessness.

Think the Joads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> &#8220;Homelessness&#8221; isn&#8217;t the problem. Untreated mental illness with co-occuring substance abuse is the problem. </i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s going to change. The ranks of the homeless will grow to include people whose only disorder is homelessness.</p>
<p>Think the Joads.</p>
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		<title>By: wolfiesma</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352618</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfiesma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was so happy to see this in the LA Times online this morning. I felt really guilty for being so glib in dismissing this paper I&#039;ve known and loved my entire life. Socially relevant articles like this knock the socks off the uppercrusty lifestyles nonsense you see so much of in the NYTimes.

I don&#039;t want the LA Times to die! You want to talk about an indispensible teaching tool? The newspaper is a freakin godsend in the classroom. A very cheap, plentiful source of information, available in many places where classrooms full of laptops may not be. I used the San Jose Mercury News every day in my classroom. 

Sitting down to read the paper is one of these quintessentially democratic experiences that shouldn&#039;t be so blithely thrown in the dustbin of time. 

I say, long live the LA Times, the Mercury News, and innumerable others across the country that provide relevant and meaningful news to the broadest demographics possible. I mean, I guess there is TV, but seriously, the &quot;newspaper&quot; really shouldn&#039;t have to die now, should it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so happy to see this in the LA Times online this morning. I felt really guilty for being so glib in dismissing this paper I&#8217;ve known and loved my entire life. Socially relevant articles like this knock the socks off the uppercrusty lifestyles nonsense you see so much of in the NYTimes.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want the LA Times to die! You want to talk about an indispensible teaching tool? The newspaper is a freakin godsend in the classroom. A very cheap, plentiful source of information, available in many places where classrooms full of laptops may not be. I used the San Jose Mercury News every day in my classroom. </p>
<p>Sitting down to read the paper is one of these quintessentially democratic experiences that shouldn&#8217;t be so blithely thrown in the dustbin of time. </p>
<p>I say, long live the LA Times, the Mercury News, and innumerable others across the country that provide relevant and meaningful news to the broadest demographics possible. I mean, I guess there is TV, but seriously, the &#8220;newspaper&#8221; really shouldn&#8217;t have to die now, should it?</p>
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		<title>By: Oren Beck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352622</link>
		<dc:creator>Oren Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perception is Reality. Or is it situational? A person sleeping in a plastic &quot;tube tent&quot;. In a wilderness area it&#039;s &quot;ultra light shelter&quot; In the urban wilderness it&#039;s considered somehow different. A person with a backpack holding that same tube tent+sleeping bag. Are they a camper or a bum? The presence or lack of a fixed &quot;home&quot; somehow magically defines leisure class from lower class? Rethinking also what demarcates those lacking a home from economics Vs those who choose to not have a &quot;home&quot; I have always suspected that some &quot;homeless&quot; are quite unwilling to be forced into conformity. From that thought comes a grimly sobering alternate reality. How many Americans at this very moment are homeless because we ignored a blatant economic rape? 

These shelters are lovely in theory. The  combination of &quot;Guilt Alms&quot; and perpetuating a cycle play nicely into changing nothing. Changing building codes to allow single person Micro Houses for example might be a better start.  Here&#039;s why. A flimsy portashelter depreciates any investment in it very quickly. Make single person dwellings in hospitable climates.  Which can uplift that unwillingly homeless single person into a modestly but dignified housed person. With incentives to eventually move up in the world if they choose to. And when they move out someone else moves in.  The rest is details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perception is Reality. Or is it situational? A person sleeping in a plastic &#8220;tube tent&#8221;. In a wilderness area it&#8217;s &#8220;ultra light shelter&#8221; In the urban wilderness it&#8217;s considered somehow different. A person with a backpack holding that same tube tent+sleeping bag. Are they a camper or a bum? The presence or lack of a fixed &#8220;home&#8221; somehow magically defines leisure class from lower class? Rethinking also what demarcates those lacking a home from economics Vs those who choose to not have a &#8220;home&#8221; I have always suspected that some &#8220;homeless&#8221; are quite unwilling to be forced into conformity. From that thought comes a grimly sobering alternate reality. How many Americans at this very moment are homeless because we ignored a blatant economic rape? </p>
<p>These shelters are lovely in theory. The  combination of &#8220;Guilt Alms&#8221; and perpetuating a cycle play nicely into changing nothing. Changing building codes to allow single person Micro Houses for example might be a better start.  Here&#8217;s why. A flimsy portashelter depreciates any investment in it very quickly. Make single person dwellings in hospitable climates.  Which can uplift that unwillingly homeless single person into a modestly but dignified housed person. With incentives to eventually move up in the world if they choose to. And when they move out someone else moves in.  The rest is details.</p>
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		<title>By: SeattlePete</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352625</link>
		<dc:creator>SeattlePete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with this Redstarr is that the Homeless in general don&#039;t want to attract attention to themselves, unless its for some sort of temporary politcal protest.  Day in and day out, the homeless are just trying to get by like the rest of us.  Putting them in international yellow jumpsuits would certainly highlight the problem, but it would also make them a target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this Redstarr is that the Homeless in general don&#8217;t want to attract attention to themselves, unless its for some sort of temporary politcal protest.  Day in and day out, the homeless are just trying to get by like the rest of us.  Putting them in international yellow jumpsuits would certainly highlight the problem, but it would also make them a target.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352628</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are there not Humane Euthanasia Centers established? Surely all agree these redundant persons suffer unduly and all inexorably end the same way. It is our Christian Duty to minimize their suffering. Charity demands it. We must face up to the task before us and reach out to the homeless in their hour of need. A warm place, cheerful welcoming faces and a good steaming bowl of the last stew they&#039;ll ever need. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are there not Humane Euthanasia Centers established? Surely all agree these redundant persons suffer unduly and all inexorably end the same way. It is our Christian Duty to minimize their suffering. Charity demands it. We must face up to the task before us and reach out to the homeless in their hour of need. A warm place, cheerful welcoming faces and a good steaming bowl of the last stew they&#8217;ll ever need. </p>
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		<title>By: Oren Beck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/10/popup-minishelter-fo.html#comment-352639</link>
		<dc:creator>Oren Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: The last bowl of stew comment. Satire as such risks the humor being lost. Or are we being too subtle? Thus, proposing further Swiftian logic to  make my point. Those bowls of stew being made from those who had a last bowl of stew. We have to Make Room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: The last bowl of stew comment. Satire as such risks the humor being lost. Or are we being too subtle? Thus, proposing further Swiftian logic to  make my point. Those bowls of stew being made from those who had a last bowl of stew. We have to Make Room!</p>
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