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	<title>Comments on: FCC commissioner: Warcraft is a &quot;leading cause&quot; of college&#160;dropouts</title>
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		<title>By: kaelsleeps</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-389377</link>
		<dc:creator>kaelsleeps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at it in the context of drug use, perhaps WoW could be used for treatment of some psychiatric problems. Most pharmas with addiction potential are also valuable tools for alleviating pain or whatever, so maybe we could flip the coin a bit with warcraft.

PTSD patients might be convinced to stop staring into space for a minute, alcoholics could be weaned off the bottle, burn victims could try out re-entry into society by practicing in a virtual society...but I don&#039;t know. Just an idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at it in the context of drug use, perhaps WoW could be used for treatment of some psychiatric problems. Most pharmas with addiction potential are also valuable tools for alleviating pain or whatever, so maybe we could flip the coin a bit with warcraft.</p>
<p>PTSD patients might be convinced to stop staring into space for a minute, alcoholics could be weaned off the bottle, burn victims could try out re-entry into society by practicing in a virtual society&#8230;but I don&#8217;t know. Just an idea.</p>
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		<title>By: chronophobe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354313</link>
		<dc:creator>chronophobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly some people are online far too much, but another reason that people don&#039;t go to or can&#039;t stay in college is because it costs about a billion dollars. Still paying for my bachelor&#039;s ten years on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly some people are online far too much, but another reason that people don&#8217;t go to or can&#8217;t stay in college is because it costs about a billion dollars. Still paying for my bachelor&#8217;s ten years on!</p>
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		<title>By: BSD</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354317</link>
		<dc:creator>BSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WoW came out while I was in LS. I knew what would happen to me, so I did not touch it for as long as I could. Luckily, no friend able to infect me got it until after I had graduated and taken the bar.

Within a week of her getting it, I was playing. It hasn&#039;t harmed my work, but it&#039;s definitely my default leisure time activity if I have enough energy/attention remaining to do anything but collapse and zombify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW came out while I was in LS. I knew what would happen to me, so I did not touch it for as long as I could. Luckily, no friend able to infect me got it until after I had graduated and taken the bar.</p>
<p>Within a week of her getting it, I was playing. It hasn&#8217;t harmed my work, but it&#8217;s definitely my default leisure time activity if I have enough energy/attention remaining to do anything but collapse and zombify.</p>
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		<title>By: glitchveggie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354319</link>
		<dc:creator>glitchveggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ JESNOW

This is a long one, so here&#039;s the one-sentence version: As someone who&#039;s personally been on both sides of the coin, I can confidently say that people only play these games to excess when there&#039;s something deeply wrong in the rest of their life. 

Okay, now the really long version, for those who might like to see my reasoning.

As a current college senior, BoingBoing reader and also an avid player of WoW, I now drag myself out of faceless lurkerage to deposit my two cents in this pile of many. Please be gentle. ._.

I agree more with RAJ77 than with any of the other comments here. My heart goes out to JESNOW; I believe that I truly do know how you - and he - must feel. But more to the point:

In my high school days I was an A student and accomplished in wushu and activist projects within the public sector. None of these accomplishments held a candle towards what I really wanted: mostly, the freedom to make my own decisions in life. It was only after the fact that I was able to define this void in my life this way. 

That along with other issues back then caused my avoidant immersion in MUDs, which caused a huge amount of problems - like your son, JESNOW, my grades went in the tank and generally stayed there, and my early college years (in a major of my father&#039;s choosing) were equally as dismal.

The solution to all this was drastic and I won&#039;t get into it, but all&#039;s said and done I&#039;m now finishing off my degree in a field I enjoy, have a high major GPA, have marriage prospects, etc. I -still- play games like WoW. I enjoy it greatly. But unlike before, they take a back seat to other priorities. 

My point is that people only play these games to excess when there&#039;s something they want to run away from. JESNOW, I would never presume that your or your son&#039;s situations or motives are similar my experience, but I would like to suggest that his problem is not WoW, but rather of something severely lacking in his life which causes him to run away to that virtual world. 

Instead of berating him for his misdeeds or blaming the game, I urge you to seek help for your son. He might have to be diagnosed by a proper, /supportive/ therapist (not a rote textbook therapist, I don&#039;t have enough venom to spew about /those/ monsters), but either way in the meantime you might risk deepening his wounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ JESNOW</p>
<p>This is a long one, so here&#8217;s the one-sentence version: As someone who&#8217;s personally been on both sides of the coin, I can confidently say that people only play these games to excess when there&#8217;s something deeply wrong in the rest of their life. </p>
<p>Okay, now the really long version, for those who might like to see my reasoning.</p>
<p>As a current college senior, BoingBoing reader and also an avid player of WoW, I now drag myself out of faceless lurkerage to deposit my two cents in this pile of many. Please be gentle. ._.</p>
<p>I agree more with RAJ77 than with any of the other comments here. My heart goes out to JESNOW; I believe that I truly do know how you &#8211; and he &#8211; must feel. But more to the point:</p>
<p>In my high school days I was an A student and accomplished in wushu and activist projects within the public sector. None of these accomplishments held a candle towards what I really wanted: mostly, the freedom to make my own decisions in life. It was only after the fact that I was able to define this void in my life this way. </p>
<p>That along with other issues back then caused my avoidant immersion in MUDs, which caused a huge amount of problems &#8211; like your son, JESNOW, my grades went in the tank and generally stayed there, and my early college years (in a major of my father&#8217;s choosing) were equally as dismal.</p>
<p>The solution to all this was drastic and I won&#8217;t get into it, but all&#8217;s said and done I&#8217;m now finishing off my degree in a field I enjoy, have a high major GPA, have marriage prospects, etc. I -still- play games like WoW. I enjoy it greatly. But unlike before, they take a back seat to other priorities. </p>
<p>My point is that people only play these games to excess when there&#8217;s something they want to run away from. JESNOW, I would never presume that your or your son&#8217;s situations or motives are similar my experience, but I would like to suggest that his problem is not WoW, but rather of something severely lacking in his life which causes him to run away to that virtual world. </p>
<p>Instead of berating him for his misdeeds or blaming the game, I urge you to seek help for your son. He might have to be diagnosed by a proper, /supportive/ therapist (not a rote textbook therapist, I don&#8217;t have enough venom to spew about /those/ monsters), but either way in the meantime you might risk deepening his wounds.</p>
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		<title>By: BradleyS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-355087</link>
		<dc:creator>BradleyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, my two cents:
First off, I suffer from severe depression and a pretty intense anxiety disorder. I also play WoW. It&#039;s not an escape, and it&#039;s not a treatment (except that I have friends in the game, and having a friendship connection is a good way to keep depression in check).

I had a period where I played far too much WoW. I&#039;d just lost my job, and I threw myself into WoW the way a lot of unemployed people throw themselves into tv, or other things to ignore that losing one&#039;s job sucks.

Then, I got a new job, and I play WoW an average of 10-12 hours a week now. I am certain people are going to jump on that number as a sign I&#039;m playing far too much, but I ask this: How much time do you spend watching tv? I watch none.

I work out on a regular basis, I read books avidly. I go to concerts with and without friends, and I have a job I truly adore. WoW is simply another thing I do in my spare time.

The majority of my guild in the game is also employed gainfully, and the under 18s in the guild all (to the best of my knowledge) keep up on their homework and grades and most of them also play sports.

Just because the people who don&#039;t know how to moderate their lives make the headlines doesn&#039;t mean the game is a cancer on all who play it.

My opinion on the whole thing: people really need to learn to take personal responsiblity and take care of themselves. And if the problem is depression or some other mental disorder, it IS possible to get treatment. Through a good 8 years of off-and-on therapy and various anti-depressants (some helpful, some not) I have my depression controlled and my life on track.

If you cannot do that, or if your loved one cannot do that, don&#039;t blame the thing they have surrendered themself to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, my two cents:<br />
First off, I suffer from severe depression and a pretty intense anxiety disorder. I also play WoW. It&#8217;s not an escape, and it&#8217;s not a treatment (except that I have friends in the game, and having a friendship connection is a good way to keep depression in check).</p>
<p>I had a period where I played far too much WoW. I&#8217;d just lost my job, and I threw myself into WoW the way a lot of unemployed people throw themselves into tv, or other things to ignore that losing one&#8217;s job sucks.</p>
<p>Then, I got a new job, and I play WoW an average of 10-12 hours a week now. I am certain people are going to jump on that number as a sign I&#8217;m playing far too much, but I ask this: How much time do you spend watching tv? I watch none.</p>
<p>I work out on a regular basis, I read books avidly. I go to concerts with and without friends, and I have a job I truly adore. WoW is simply another thing I do in my spare time.</p>
<p>The majority of my guild in the game is also employed gainfully, and the under 18s in the guild all (to the best of my knowledge) keep up on their homework and grades and most of them also play sports.</p>
<p>Just because the people who don&#8217;t know how to moderate their lives make the headlines doesn&#8217;t mean the game is a cancer on all who play it.</p>
<p>My opinion on the whole thing: people really need to learn to take personal responsiblity and take care of themselves. And if the problem is depression or some other mental disorder, it IS possible to get treatment. Through a good 8 years of off-and-on therapy and various anti-depressants (some helpful, some not) I have my depression controlled and my life on track.</p>
<p>If you cannot do that, or if your loved one cannot do that, don&#8217;t blame the thing they have surrendered themself to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354584</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for posting anonymously, but I can&#039;t access my mail to sign up for a boingboing account right now.  

Wow is simply a game that offers positive reinforcement as mentioned by many people above me.  

I&#039;m not a very social person.  I suffer from serious depression because of my lack of social connections, and I cannot afford treatment, nor do I trust medication.   

All that being said, I am a MMORPG addict.  In the first college I went to, I played Everquest (like wow, just a little more crude and time-demanding).  The college freshman described by SAMSAM above could have very easily been me.  That description is almost precisely what happened to me except the game was Everquest, and not WoW.  After that experience, I quit Everquest, and did not play any games like that for several years.  In those several years, I got a job, finished college elsewhere, dated a few girls, and moved forward with my life.  While I can&#039;t say that I ever craved to be back on that game, I can say that life turned into a living hell.  One heartbreak after another, no real friends, job description being altered to something I didn&#039;t apply for.  Not getting accepted to other jobs, the life goes on.  Everything in this country is so negative, and everyone is so self-centered and greedy and competitive.  Sure I&#039;m  self-centered too, but I don&#039;t really care about everyone&#039;s stupid rat race, I just want to have something in my life that&#039;s going in a positive direction for once.

Anyway, that&#039;s why I turned to WoW.  It&#039;s the only positive reinforcement I can get.  $15 a month for hours of enjoyment on end.  I can positively say that without wow, I probably would have committed suicide by now.  

I still work in the same job, and do it dutifully.  I still function as a useful member of society.  I give to charities.  I do volunteer work, and I exercise a few days a week.  I also spend over 40 hours a week playing WoW.  Am I still depressed? heck yes.  But at least I feel alive when I&#039;m in Azeroth.  

I would trade it all to have a successful social life, but after so many failures, I&#039;ve given up on that goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for posting anonymously, but I can&#8217;t access my mail to sign up for a boingboing account right now.  </p>
<p>Wow is simply a game that offers positive reinforcement as mentioned by many people above me.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a very social person.  I suffer from serious depression because of my lack of social connections, and I cannot afford treatment, nor do I trust medication.   </p>
<p>All that being said, I am a MMORPG addict.  In the first college I went to, I played Everquest (like wow, just a little more crude and time-demanding).  The college freshman described by SAMSAM above could have very easily been me.  That description is almost precisely what happened to me except the game was Everquest, and not WoW.  After that experience, I quit Everquest, and did not play any games like that for several years.  In those several years, I got a job, finished college elsewhere, dated a few girls, and moved forward with my life.  While I can&#8217;t say that I ever craved to be back on that game, I can say that life turned into a living hell.  One heartbreak after another, no real friends, job description being altered to something I didn&#8217;t apply for.  Not getting accepted to other jobs, the life goes on.  Everything in this country is so negative, and everyone is so self-centered and greedy and competitive.  Sure I&#8217;m  self-centered too, but I don&#8217;t really care about everyone&#8217;s stupid rat race, I just want to have something in my life that&#8217;s going in a positive direction for once.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s why I turned to WoW.  It&#8217;s the only positive reinforcement I can get.  $15 a month for hours of enjoyment on end.  I can positively say that without wow, I probably would have committed suicide by now.  </p>
<p>I still work in the same job, and do it dutifully.  I still function as a useful member of society.  I give to charities.  I do volunteer work, and I exercise a few days a week.  I also spend over 40 hours a week playing WoW.  Am I still depressed? heck yes.  But at least I feel alive when I&#8217;m in Azeroth.  </p>
<p>I would trade it all to have a successful social life, but after so many failures, I&#8217;ve given up on that goal.</p>
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		<title>By: eccentriffic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354330</link>
		<dc:creator>eccentriffic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a WoW player myself, and I played it in college as well. I can definitely see how easy it is to shirk responsibilities to go level or do an instance, but I agree mostly with the people who are saying that if you have a so-called addiction to a video game or WoW, there is an underlying problem.

My sophomore year of college I decided to spend the summer there to take an extra class. I ended up being super lonely and very depressed. (I have a history of depression and usually take medication, but sometimes I lapse.) I ended up playing another MMORPG most of the day until my night class, then stayed up until around 3am to keep playing. 
Once I finally got over my depression, I stopped playing so much. I had no need to distract myself from my loneliness and socialize online because I had my friends back for the semester.

JESNOW, I encourage you to seek help for your son. And, like other people, recommend you not blame the game, because more than likely it&#039;s his attempt to solve his problem on his own. He needs your love and support, and I hope you both can find a solution and repair your relationship. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a WoW player myself, and I played it in college as well. I can definitely see how easy it is to shirk responsibilities to go level or do an instance, but I agree mostly with the people who are saying that if you have a so-called addiction to a video game or WoW, there is an underlying problem.</p>
<p>My sophomore year of college I decided to spend the summer there to take an extra class. I ended up being super lonely and very depressed. (I have a history of depression and usually take medication, but sometimes I lapse.) I ended up playing another MMORPG most of the day until my night class, then stayed up until around 3am to keep playing.<br />
Once I finally got over my depression, I stopped playing so much. I had no need to distract myself from my loneliness and socialize online because I had my friends back for the semester.</p>
<p>JESNOW, I encourage you to seek help for your son. And, like other people, recommend you not blame the game, because more than likely it&#8217;s his attempt to solve his problem on his own. He needs your love and support, and I hope you both can find a solution and repair your relationship. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Banksynergy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354591</link>
		<dc:creator>Banksynergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33- Wait, why would you quit weed to play WoW? Their simultaneous usage is my main hobby. Each compliments the other so well.
Was it the money? It must have been the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33- Wait, why would you quit weed to play WoW? Their simultaneous usage is my main hobby. Each compliments the other so well.<br />
Was it the money? It must have been the money.</p>
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		<title>By: weaseltagger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354336</link>
		<dc:creator>weaseltagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe people who would rather play games instead of go to college should drop out - travel the world, enjoy life, have fun, do whatever they want - and then return to college when they are ready. College is wasted on (some of) the young. Let them come when they are ready to learn and know what they want to do with their lives. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe people who would rather play games instead of go to college should drop out &#8211; travel the world, enjoy life, have fun, do whatever they want &#8211; and then return to college when they are ready. College is wasted on (some of) the young. Let them come when they are ready to learn and know what they want to do with their lives. </p>
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		<title>By: nolongeranon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354339</link>
		<dc:creator>nolongeranon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 1 in 4 college freshman drop out. This hasn&#039;t changed significantly since WoW came out - so there&#039;s no way to say that WoW causes people to drop out of college. It&#039;s more likely that those who are going to drop out start playing more WoW.

Here&#039;s an article from 2002 talking about the same problem. (WoW came out 2 years after this article)
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTR/is_4_22/ai_84599442

The kid described in this article is pretty typical - blame everyone but yourself for failure. That&#039;s what I did when I first got to college, too. My demise was hacky-sack. Spent hours upon hours doing that instead of studying, instead of going to class. It could have been anything - video games, partying, etc -- WoW is not unique. I finally got my ass in gear when I started seeing failing grades, though. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 1 in 4 college freshman drop out. This hasn&#8217;t changed significantly since WoW came out &#8211; so there&#8217;s no way to say that WoW causes people to drop out of college. It&#8217;s more likely that those who are going to drop out start playing more WoW.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an article from 2002 talking about the same problem. (WoW came out 2 years after this article)<br />
<a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTR/is_4_22/ai_84599442" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTR/is_4_22/ai_84599442</a></p>
<p>The kid described in this article is pretty typical &#8211; blame everyone but yourself for failure. That&#8217;s what I did when I first got to college, too. My demise was hacky-sack. Spent hours upon hours doing that instead of studying, instead of going to class. It could have been anything &#8211; video games, partying, etc &#8212; WoW is not unique. I finally got my ass in gear when I started seeing failing grades, though. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354595</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they said that religion was the Opiate of the masses.  HA! Religion has nothing on WoW. I know people who talk about nothing else and do nothing else, except play WoW. I tried it a few times. It was fun, until I realized that most online players were jerks. I don&#039;t regret leaving. It was rather boring, walk, walk, walk... it was dull. The game&#039;s main purpose is to make everything take a long time so you can pay more money to play longer, in order to do...nothing that matters anyway.  Very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they said that religion was the Opiate of the masses.  HA! Religion has nothing on WoW. I know people who talk about nothing else and do nothing else, except play WoW. I tried it a few times. It was fun, until I realized that most online players were jerks. I don&#8217;t regret leaving. It was rather boring, walk, walk, walk&#8230; it was dull. The game&#8217;s main purpose is to make everything take a long time so you can pay more money to play longer, in order to do&#8230;nothing that matters anyway.  Very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: wrathofthekitty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354598</link>
		<dc:creator>wrathofthekitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is what we need: let&#039;s get together the best writers, teachers, and video game &quot;makers&quot; to build games that are fun, immersing, AND educational. it seems like there is a lot of room in games like WoW to teach people important information that could be used in the real world. it would take some work, but i think there is a very close relationship between learning and entertainment. for example, my professors who are amusing, silly (but still serious), and animated are always the most engaging. in comparison, the professors who bore me to death are the ones who i learn the least from.
here&#039;s to hoping for some video games that will help teach me neuro-anatomy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what we need: let&#8217;s get together the best writers, teachers, and video game &#8220;makers&#8221; to build games that are fun, immersing, AND educational. it seems like there is a lot of room in games like WoW to teach people important information that could be used in the real world. it would take some work, but i think there is a very close relationship between learning and entertainment. for example, my professors who are amusing, silly (but still serious), and animated are always the most engaging. in comparison, the professors who bore me to death are the ones who i learn the least from.<br />
here&#8217;s to hoping for some video games that will help teach me neuro-anatomy!</p>
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		<title>By: ShortBusPrankster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-355366</link>
		<dc:creator>ShortBusPrankster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I understand this correctly, basically what everyone is saying is that WoW some how removes all self-control and is therefore responsible for any and all bad decisions a &quot;user&quot; makes?

That is the funniest thing I&#039;ve ever heard! Though to blame a lack of impulse control on a video game for being too damn good is probably the best PR this game can get.

College drop-outs are playing world of warcraft. I can see that to be true... College drop outs have a lot of free time and you can waste a lot of free time playing WoW, but to say world of warcraft is the cause? 
What about drugs? or Alcohol abuse? seriously you want me to believe a video game is the source of it all? It&#039;s a damn good game but... c&#039;mon be realistic.
 
for the record:
A Correlation does NOT imply cause and effect.
Go buy an economics text book and study some.

I can look at the decline in support for the current President Bush and say that it corresponds to the trend of people dropping out of college which also inversely corresponds with the population of WoW &quot;Users&quot;

Does that mean a loss of faith in our President caused everyone to play WoW to distract them from the sad state of our country and then go on to ruin their lives after Wrath of the Lich King was released? 

OH MY GOD VIDEO GAMES ATE MY BABY!


Seriously this is the dumbest sh!t Iâ€™ve ever heard.

I went to university, worked 36 hours a week and still managed to log 20 plus hours in on WoW. 
I graduated on time and got a decent job overseas.
2 years out of college now I work and play when Iâ€™m away from my wife ( I travel a lot in my job) I haven&#039;t lost my life or my soul. 

Iâ€™m not saying it isnâ€™t a time eater because it is. But to call it an addiction? Video games? Seriously? College drop outs are college drop outs. They dropped out because they couldnt cut it. Frankly if they cant cut it in Uni then who cares? For me it just means less competition for higher paying positions.

Not that I think it really matters though, looking at how the war on drugs is progressing I have to say video games have nothing to worry about. 

and on a side note... anyone notice how well Japan is doing economically? almost EVERYONE there plays video games...  must just be a genetic difference?

This is but a symptom of a much deeper and widespread problem.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I understand this correctly, basically what everyone is saying is that WoW some how removes all self-control and is therefore responsible for any and all bad decisions a &#8220;user&#8221; makes?</p>
<p>That is the funniest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard! Though to blame a lack of impulse control on a video game for being too damn good is probably the best PR this game can get.</p>
<p>College drop-outs are playing world of warcraft. I can see that to be true&#8230; College drop outs have a lot of free time and you can waste a lot of free time playing WoW, but to say world of warcraft is the cause?<br />
What about drugs? or Alcohol abuse? seriously you want me to believe a video game is the source of it all? It&#8217;s a damn good game but&#8230; c&#8217;mon be realistic.</p>
<p>for the record:<br />
A Correlation does NOT imply cause and effect.<br />
Go buy an economics text book and study some.</p>
<p>I can look at the decline in support for the current President Bush and say that it corresponds to the trend of people dropping out of college which also inversely corresponds with the population of WoW &#8220;Users&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that mean a loss of faith in our President caused everyone to play WoW to distract them from the sad state of our country and then go on to ruin their lives after Wrath of the Lich King was released? </p>
<p>OH MY GOD VIDEO GAMES ATE MY BABY!</p>
<p>Seriously this is the dumbest sh!t Iâ€™ve ever heard.</p>
<p>I went to university, worked 36 hours a week and still managed to log 20 plus hours in on WoW.<br />
I graduated on time and got a decent job overseas.<br />
2 years out of college now I work and play when Iâ€™m away from my wife ( I travel a lot in my job) I haven&#8217;t lost my life or my soul. </p>
<p>Iâ€™m not saying it isnâ€™t a time eater because it is. But to call it an addiction? Video games? Seriously? College drop outs are college drop outs. They dropped out because they couldnt cut it. Frankly if they cant cut it in Uni then who cares? For me it just means less competition for higher paying positions.</p>
<p>Not that I think it really matters though, looking at how the war on drugs is progressing I have to say video games have nothing to worry about. </p>
<p>and on a side note&#8230; anyone notice how well Japan is doing economically? almost EVERYONE there plays video games&#8230;  must just be a genetic difference?</p>
<p>This is but a symptom of a much deeper and widespread problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-355629</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion is that addiction is addiction.
Just because it&#039;s WoW, Second Life, drugs, alcohol, sex, porn, internet. 

Doesn&#039;t really matter if people pick a different poison. It&#039;s really their choice, and life is about choices. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is that addiction is addiction.<br />
Just because it&#8217;s WoW, Second Life, drugs, alcohol, sex, porn, internet. </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t really matter if people pick a different poison. It&#8217;s really their choice, and life is about choices. </p>
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		<title>By: franko</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354350</link>
		<dc:creator>franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had a friend in school (before the rise if the internet, mind you) who lost an entire semester to tetris. sure, it&#039;s easy to blame the game, but what she and what we (her friends) knew was that her real problem was that she was severely depressed -- tetris was just an escape from the depression for a bit. i will add my voice to those who are encouraging those to look at the underlying problem, and don&#039;t blame the game. btw, my friend conquered her depression and is now quite a happy, successful person. not sure if she plays tetris anymore, though. : )

oh, i also say this as a WoW player.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had a friend in school (before the rise if the internet, mind you) who lost an entire semester to tetris. sure, it&#8217;s easy to blame the game, but what she and what we (her friends) knew was that her real problem was that she was severely depressed &#8212; tetris was just an escape from the depression for a bit. i will add my voice to those who are encouraging those to look at the underlying problem, and don&#8217;t blame the game. btw, my friend conquered her depression and is now quite a happy, successful person. not sure if she plays tetris anymore, though. : )</p>
<p>oh, i also say this as a WoW player.</p>
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		<title>By: JJR1971</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-356913</link>
		<dc:creator>JJR1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my High School buddies dropped out from a severe addiction to Advanced Dungeons &amp; Dragon; he was the DM, and tried to major in fantasy gaming instead of one of the majors actually listed in the university catalog, with predictable results.  He had one HELLA-FUN freshman year but that was all she wrote...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my High School buddies dropped out from a severe addiction to Advanced Dungeons & Dragon; he was the DM, and tried to major in fantasy gaming instead of one of the majors actually listed in the university catalog, with predictable results.  He had one HELLA-FUN freshman year but that was all she wrote&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: urshrew</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354357</link>
		<dc:creator>urshrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the article to see if she cited a single resource, study, fact or whatever, to prove her point. Seems like the paraphrase was: lots of people play WoW, lots of people drop out of college: voila, totally made up fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the article to see if she cited a single resource, study, fact or whatever, to prove her point. Seems like the paraphrase was: lots of people play WoW, lots of people drop out of college: voila, totally made up fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354359</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone here read &quot;Hearts in Atlantis&quot; from the Stephen King novella collection of the same name? It&#039;s about a group of college freshmen in the mid-sixties who get caught up in a perpetual tournament of the card game Hearts, and some of them flunk out; even though they know that there&#039;s a good chance that they&#039;ll be drafted and sent to Vietnam, they keep playing. (Although it&#039;s fiction, King has indicated elsewhere that there&#039;s some basis to it in his own history.) 

Like any other activity that offers immediate positive reinforcement, yes, it can be addicting, and yes, there are some people that are self-medicating, in effect, with it. Right after I graduated from college, in the mid-eighties, I had a hard time finding a job, and my idea of a fun evening was playing Gauntlet (the original arcade game) for hours, which was possible on one quarter if you knew the trick of waiting for three minutes until all the dungeon walls turned into exits. Kind of sad, I know, but it got me out of the scuzzy rooming house that I was living in and gave me the feeling that I was halfway decent at &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt;. Better that than drinking generic mouthwash. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone here read &#8220;Hearts in Atlantis&#8221; from the Stephen King novella collection of the same name? It&#8217;s about a group of college freshmen in the mid-sixties who get caught up in a perpetual tournament of the card game Hearts, and some of them flunk out; even though they know that there&#8217;s a good chance that they&#8217;ll be drafted and sent to Vietnam, they keep playing. (Although it&#8217;s fiction, King has indicated elsewhere that there&#8217;s some basis to it in his own history.) </p>
<p>Like any other activity that offers immediate positive reinforcement, yes, it can be addicting, and yes, there are some people that are self-medicating, in effect, with it. Right after I graduated from college, in the mid-eighties, I had a hard time finding a job, and my idea of a fun evening was playing Gauntlet (the original arcade game) for hours, which was possible on one quarter if you knew the trick of waiting for three minutes until all the dungeon walls turned into exits. Kind of sad, I know, but it got me out of the scuzzy rooming house that I was living in and gave me the feeling that I was halfway decent at <i>something</i>. Better that than drinking generic mouthwash. </p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354360</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sinister plan is to take all these MMORPG players addicted to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grind_(gaming)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grinding&lt;/a&gt; and transform the grind missions themselves into real-world profit-making tasks -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoke&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yoking&lt;/a&gt; these gamers into unwittingly slaving away for my personal gain.

I&#039;m amazed MMORPG designers haven&#039;t already done this (while giving away access to the game to maximize market exposure), but then again they all still utterly fail to prevent &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mudflation&lt;/a&gt; too.  Maybe this will improve as designers rely more and more on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/18/virtual-worlds-incre.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;procedural synthesis&lt;/a&gt; to generate content instead of central planning.

c.f. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Quest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Progress Quest&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sinister plan is to take all these MMORPG players addicted to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grind_(gaming)" rel="nofollow">grinding</a> and transform the grind missions themselves into real-world profit-making tasks &#8212; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoke" rel="nofollow">yoking</a> these gamers into unwittingly slaving away for my personal gain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed MMORPG designers haven&#8217;t already done this (while giving away access to the game to maximize market exposure), but then again they all still utterly fail to prevent <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation" rel="nofollow">mudflation</a> too.  Maybe this will improve as designers rely more and more on <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/18/virtual-worlds-incre.html" rel="nofollow">procedural synthesis</a> to generate content instead of central planning.</p>
<p>c.f. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Quest" rel="nofollow">Progress Quest</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-384312</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the game, it&#039;s the one playing behind the game. I&#039;m a student as well (graduating this year) but I can manage my time efficiently. There&#039;s a life out there beyond the game. I spend most of the time grinding &lt;a href=&quot;http://wowgoldpig.com&quot;&gt;wow gold&lt;/a&gt; and leveling but my life and grades are still ok.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the game, it&#8217;s the one playing behind the game. I&#8217;m a student as well (graduating this year) but I can manage my time efficiently. There&#8217;s a life out there beyond the game. I spend most of the time grinding <a href="http://wowgoldpig.com">wow gold</a> and leveling but my life and grades are still ok.</p>
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		<title>By: jphilby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-355644</link>
		<dc:creator>jphilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nietzsche (sp?) was addicted to philosophy. Beethoven just *couldn&#039;t* stop writing music. Isaac Asimov was addicted to writing books. Tiger Woods is addicted to golf. My mama was addicted to cooking and ironing clothes.

&quot;Addicted&quot;, as the headline recognizes, is a *completely* value-laden word. The use of it always seems to generate a shower of psychobabble.

Sometimes people become obsessed with a goal that most people feel is meaningful. Sometimes people become obsessed with goals that few people can understand. So what, that makes them wrong?

&quot;You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish.&quot; - Richard Feynman
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nietzsche (sp?) was addicted to philosophy. Beethoven just *couldn&#8217;t* stop writing music. Isaac Asimov was addicted to writing books. Tiger Woods is addicted to golf. My mama was addicted to cooking and ironing clothes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Addicted&#8221;, as the headline recognizes, is a *completely* value-laden word. The use of it always seems to generate a shower of psychobabble.</p>
<p>Sometimes people become obsessed with a goal that most people feel is meaningful. Sometimes people become obsessed with goals that few people can understand. So what, that makes them wrong?</p>
<p>&#8220;You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish.&#8221; &#8211; Richard Feynman</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-355137</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m shocked, I&#039;ve known a lot of people who have become addicted to things (alcoholics, heroin addicts, people psychologically dependant on pot, and WoW players) and I&#039;ve never gotten it. I drink every once in a while, and I&#039;ve tried MMO&#039;s, and I have a bunch of game systems but I&#039;ve never had any difficulty in turning away. What does it feel like to be unable to move away from something, moreover what is that persons brain wired like? I never got anyone&#039;s addiction because I couldn&#039;t compare it to anything I knew, and now seeing this it weirds me out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked, I&#8217;ve known a lot of people who have become addicted to things (alcoholics, heroin addicts, people psychologically dependant on pot, and WoW players) and I&#8217;ve never gotten it. I drink every once in a while, and I&#8217;ve tried MMO&#8217;s, and I have a bunch of game systems but I&#8217;ve never had any difficulty in turning away. What does it feel like to be unable to move away from something, moreover what is that persons brain wired like? I never got anyone&#8217;s addiction because I couldn&#8217;t compare it to anything I knew, and now seeing this it weirds me out.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354641</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk of computers and addiction gives me a queer feeling but I can&#039;t quite put my finger on it.</description>
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		<title>By: Franciskaner</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-356178</link>
		<dc:creator>Franciskaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jesnow

World of Warcraft costs $14.99 a month to play.  You claim your son has no job, no money, who is paying for his subscription?  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jesnow</p>
<p>World of Warcraft costs $14.99 a month to play.  You claim your son has no job, no money, who is paying for his subscription?  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354644</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would they rather drop outs are playing video games, or drinking themselves stupid? We can all go back to drugs and alcohol if community recreation is really that big of a problem... 

I know I like class better when I&#039;m stoned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would they rather drop outs are playing video games, or drinking themselves stupid? We can all go back to drugs and alcohol if community recreation is really that big of a problem&#8230; </p>
<p>I know I like class better when I&#8217;m stoned!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-355426</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is looking to blame something other than themselves these days. Don&#039;t blame the game. Take a good look in the mirror.</description>
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		<title>By: Eadwacer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354661</link>
		<dc:creator>Eadwacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every generation of college kids finds some way to waste enough time to trash their grades. When I was a lad, back before &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; was on line, it was card games. In my dorm, there was &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; a Hearts game going. At the cafeteria in the morning there was always someone wandering around with a sign saying &quot;Need X more player for Bridge&quot;. The problem isn&#039;t with the tool, it&#039;s with the user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every generation of college kids finds some way to waste enough time to trash their grades. When I was a lad, back before <i>anything</i> was on line, it was card games. In my dorm, there was <i>always</i> a Hearts game going. At the cafeteria in the morning there was always someone wandering around with a sign saying &#8220;Need X more player for Bridge&#8221;. The problem isn&#8217;t with the tool, it&#8217;s with the user.</p>
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		<title>By: acx99</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354418</link>
		<dc:creator>acx99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WoW is so addivtive it got me off a 5+year, half-ounce a week pot habit.  It also nearly killed my marriage - something the drugs never did.  I now play with neither of these things. I played wow for 2.5 years.  Havent played for nearly 1.5 now.

Say no to WoW.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW is so addivtive it got me off a 5+year, half-ounce a week pot habit.  It also nearly killed my marriage &#8211; something the drugs never did.  I now play with neither of these things. I played wow for 2.5 years.  Havent played for nearly 1.5 now.</p>
<p>Say no to WoW.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354419</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to say that I play WoW, I also work 40 hours a week and many other things. I don&#039;t believe this is a Government Issue because WoW has a PARENTAL CONTROL System that lets you limit the amount of time, and times of day an account can log into the game. I believe this is the parents responsibility. My parents laid down rules when I was younger about Video Gaming such as school comes first. And now Im a productive member of society. My advise is to the Parents, start doing your job as our guardians and teachers. You had kids and now you have a responsibility to raise us. Don&#039;t just sit and cry that your kid plays to much video games, take control of it. Lay down rules and look into the Parental Control System on http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml
The hardest thing you will need to do is get your kids account info, and if you&#039;re paying for it I believe that is your right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say that I play WoW, I also work 40 hours a week and many other things. I don&#8217;t believe this is a Government Issue because WoW has a PARENTAL CONTROL System that lets you limit the amount of time, and times of day an account can log into the game. I believe this is the parents responsibility. My parents laid down rules when I was younger about Video Gaming such as school comes first. And now Im a productive member of society. My advise is to the Parents, start doing your job as our guardians and teachers. You had kids and now you have a responsibility to raise us. Don&#8217;t just sit and cry that your kid plays to much video games, take control of it. Lay down rules and look into the Parental Control System on <a href="http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml</a><br />
The hardest thing you will need to do is get your kids account info, and if you&#8217;re paying for it I believe that is your right.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Russ</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/12/fcc-commissioner-war.html#comment-354426</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my day it was Snood...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my day it was Snood&#8230;</p>
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