Well, as long as they’re not Jews I suppose.

It reminds me of Louis Theroux and the Nazis documentary. He was chatting and having beer with some neo-nazis until they figure out Louis is a Jew and it gets very tense from that point onwards.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7eMk85ETM

It was very uncomfortable to watch, I wonder what Louis thought about it.

Did you really name your son Robert`);DROP TABLE Students;–?

Seriously, “permissible names” are a bad idea. How about instead we allow our children to name themselves?

There is no constant but change. Wouldn’t that also include meanings of words? We have seen the Swastika take a turn for the worse, yes.

Of course one of the greatest frustrations is holding on. To say that the swastika is ruined is an absolute. That leaves no room for growth and change. I don’t think it will happen anytime soon, but somehow it has to change because everything does. Just because it went from a great symbol to one representing evil doesn’t mean change has stopped.

The second point is that to me when I see a left faced Swastika with four dots it is a reminder. I do not hold it as a piece of my belief. As my statue of the Buddha is neither something I worship nor is it a piece of my belief. They are mental bookmarks to keep me mindful of the path I am trying to stay true to.

Please do not mistake my hope that someday things will change and the good name of the Swastika can be revived with an attachment to it. I do not expect it to happen in my life time. I just know that since all things change, to say the Swastika is ruined makes no sense to me.

However, in regards to the primary topic I would agree that the use of the Swastika in the home of the child is likely not one being used in good faith.

Again thank you for the engaging conversation. I hope you understand that I do see and understand what you are saying. I however believe there is no way to say the Swastika is ‘ruined’. It is a symbol, as a symbol it only value is what is put into it. I do believe many, many years from now it would be egocentric of us to think that future civilizations wouldn’t read/or what ever their text books and see the 20-25 years of the life of the symbol as a blip on the scope. (A disgusting, vial, evil, malevolent blip) I think it is more likely that they will see the symbols as separate from the crimes, as many people today see the symbol of a red cross as vastly different than the Moorish people did several hundred years ago during the crusades.

Thank you for the enlightening dialog. Best wishes.

-Tizroc

My friend, was determined to be childless until his wife convinced him otherwise by reminding him that stupid, shitty people are having kids anyways and that smart, caring people have to do their best to maintain the equilibrium. She was much more eloquent than I.

Today they have two kids and I’m glad they did.

So, by all means people should be allowed to name their children whatever they want but its pretty apparent that this man didn’t choose to name his children in honor of nazism because he thought it would be fun and ironic.

lovely

But those of you who are calling it “mental illness” and “child abuse” and whatnot obviously didn’t get the memo about “free society” and “freedom of speech” mean. The government doesn’t decide what ideologies it is acceptable for people to hold or what they can say, and starting to define the ones the majority abhors as “mental illness” is just another way of doing that. It reeks of fascism (ironically enough) and it’s just not acceptable. You should know better.

As for “child abuse,” I don’t see any *demonstrable* harm. Parents ARE allowed to teach their kids their own beliefs, even if you don’t like them. Even if you REALLY don’t like them. Yeah, it will almost certainly cause the kids a lot of grief, but it’s ultimately just an extreme version of giving your kid a dorky name. It’s not grounds for taking them away.

I also don’t fault either ShopRite or Walmart in the slightest. ShopRite is free to refuse service if they think it might start trouble, and Walmart is free to make the opposite call, so as not be arbitrarily discriminatory. Isn’t this country great?

Now, if you want to argue that extreme divergence from the prevailing social norms is insanity, you can…but then again, you’d be forced to declare that socially tolerant people in socially intolerant societies would be insane, should be treated to correct the problem, etc.

is that a mullet? in 2008? wow! that alone is almost child abuse

that said, someone needs to break daddys jaw.

BAHAHHAHAHAwait that’s not funny.

But WalMart can definitely keep their -1

Yep. Clearly his choice of name for his kid has no connections to the past. It’s only a name. Which is why he shouldn’t mind if I name my dog Asswipe Heath Campbell the Shithead.

Walmart – being dicks? The kid is named Adolph Hitler – His parents might as well have named him Lucifer Satan Campbell. They are attempting to make a statement at their child expense.

-1 Parents, for giving kid a name to live up to.

He’s taking it back! ;)

Boy will that name suck once he hits puberty and starts having sex. Having your partner scream “Oh Hitler!” is a dick softener if I ever heard one.