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		<title>By: Rezpect</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365834</link>
		<dc:creator>Rezpect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome post for us oldsters. Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: arkizzle</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-375836</link>
		<dc:creator>arkizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Painting199: busted</description>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-367150</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best cutting edge band EVAR. Thanks for reminding me to add them to iTunes.</description>
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		<title>By: WeightedCompanionCube</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365909</link>
		<dc:creator>WeightedCompanionCube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iWood - dirty pots and pans notwithstanding, the TG box is all op-amps and FETs. Very linear until they clip hard. There&#039;s not much to drift, saturate, or overdrive creatively.

That is such an elegant little box, either the TG or the pedal version, and you can&#039;t do a perfect digital simulation of the literally infinite ways to set a couple of analog knobs. Then again, by that logic you can never get them exactly the same way twice when performing either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iWood &#8211; dirty pots and pans notwithstanding, the TG box is all op-amps and FETs. Very linear until they clip hard. There&#8217;s not much to drift, saturate, or overdrive creatively.</p>
<p>That is such an elegant little box, either the TG or the pedal version, and you can&#8217;t do a perfect digital simulation of the literally infinite ways to set a couple of analog knobs. Then again, by that logic you can never get them exactly the same way twice when performing either.</p>
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		<title>By: ill lich</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-366451</link>
		<dc:creator>ill lich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamburrrrger Laayyyydyyyy. . . . </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamburrrrger Laayyyydyyyy. . . . </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365943</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A freeware VST effect called Throbber was inspired by the Gristleizer.

Freeware download over at the Tiny God page.

http://www.tinygod.com/

http://www.tinygod.com/productthrobber.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A freeware VST effect called Throbber was inspired by the Gristleizer.</p>
<p>Freeware download over at the Tiny God page.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tinygod.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinygod.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tinygod.com/productthrobber.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinygod.com/productthrobber.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: superrobot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365737</link>
		<dc:creator>superrobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring on the software emulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring on the software emulations.</p>
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		<title>By: IWood</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365746</link>
		<dc:creator>IWood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah...for this sort of thing I much prefer the grotty individuality of analog boxes stuffed with bits of hardware connected by wires and blobs of solder over the uniform abstraction of software emulation. A box where you have to clean out the switches and pots to get rid of static.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah&#8230;for this sort of thing I much prefer the grotty individuality of analog boxes stuffed with bits of hardware connected by wires and blobs of solder over the uniform abstraction of software emulation. A box where you have to clean out the switches and pots to get rid of static.</p>
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		<title>By: jungletek</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365747</link>
		<dc:creator>jungletek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit of an inconsistency in the spelling of the device between the headline and the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of an inconsistency in the spelling of the device between the headline and the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s been a Reaktor emulation of this for a couple of years or so, me likee! Thanks Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a Reaktor emulation of this for a couple of years or so, me likee! Thanks Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pescovitz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365753</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pescovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, JUNGLETEK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, JUNGLETEK.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365755</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know who designed it?  The link to the original article is broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know who designed it?  The link to the original article is broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365758</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STEPHEN;

http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/pdf/gep.pdf

at:

http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/

from:

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/04/from-which-gristlizer-came.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STEPHEN;</p>
<p><a href="http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/pdf/gep.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/pdf/gep.pdf</a></p>
<p>at:</p>
<p><a href="http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/" rel="nofollow">http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/</a></p>
<p>from:</p>
<p><a href="http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/04/from-which-gristlizer-came.html" rel="nofollow">http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/04/from-which-gristlizer-came.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: highlyevolved</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365759</link>
		<dc:creator>highlyevolved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>almighty haxx0rz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almighty haxx0rz</p>
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		<title>By: knowles</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365765</link>
		<dc:creator>knowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>schematics. for great justice, schematics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>schematics. for great justice, schematics.</p>
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		<title>By: Stumpadoodle</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365766</link>
		<dc:creator>Stumpadoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eff yeah TG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eff yeah TG.</p>
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		<title>By: Reverend T</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365775</link>
		<dc:creator>Reverend T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link to PDF is broen, the correct one is:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/pdf/gep.pdf&quot;&gt;http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/pdf/gep.pdf&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link to PDF is broen, the correct one is:</p>
<p><a href="http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/pdf/gep.pdf">http://rubidium.dyndns.org/cag/pdf/gep.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Pescovitz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365796</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pescovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed the PDF link too. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed the PDF link too. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365798</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...I was just in Shanghai telling my friend about Throbbing Gristle, I get back to Japan and this is the first thing I see. My life is weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;I was just in Shanghai telling my friend about Throbbing Gristle, I get back to Japan and this is the first thing I see. My life is weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Oren Beck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2008/12/27/throbbing-gristles-g.html#comment-365802</link>
		<dc:creator>Oren Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s something to be said-or sad? about Analog delays such as tape loops or spring reverb+delay being replaced by &quot;most&quot; chips or  DSP And yeah- that was a subtly geekenbait pun about the SAD1024 device. I also often pun about psychoacoustic claims being often psycho acoustic more than &quot;real&quot;  So? Say what one will about the differences between DSP and Analog. Some deride them as being irrational human artifacts - artifacts affected by &quot;knowing&quot; what&#039;s in the black box. I suspect the proof lies in what we like. And the effect of a performer liking the sound in THEIR monitor. Ask for example- Neil Young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s something to be said-or sad? about Analog delays such as tape loops or spring reverb+delay being replaced by &#8220;most&#8221; chips or  DSP And yeah- that was a subtly geekenbait pun about the SAD1024 device. I also often pun about psychoacoustic claims being often psycho acoustic more than &#8220;real&#8221;  So? Say what one will about the differences between DSP and Analog. Some deride them as being irrational human artifacts &#8211; artifacts affected by &#8220;knowing&#8221; what&#8217;s in the black box. I suspect the proof lies in what we like. And the effect of a performer liking the sound in THEIR monitor. Ask for example- Neil Young.</p>
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		<title>By: presto</title>
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		<dc:creator>presto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old live TG is getting harder and harder to find.  I just found out they did a reunion thing after I saw this article.

I never heard of them until 1984, and I believe Gen was doing Psychic TV then if not already.  Somebody I knew had a beta tape of a TG show.  There were stacks and stacks of boxes everywhere, and wires covering everything.  The entire stage was wires and boxes.  I didn&#039;t know anything about them.  Cosey was very interesting to watch, but the others appeared to be on large amounts of heroin (I&#039;m not saying they were, they just looked it).

Within a few months after I saw that tape I had a couple dozen TG bootlegs.  There was just nothing like the crazy sound they made when they were &quot;on.&quot;  A lot of people in New Orleans began imitating Chris&#039;s sound techniques.  It would totally be safe to say that Carter was not only a pioneer of the hardware of electronic sound, he helped touch off the revolution that became postindustrial dance.  And yet so few people know anything about TG.

I met Gen in 1988 at the Grand Canyon.  He was wearing a large leather overcoat which barely hid his nudity underneath it.  There was a 16 penny nail stuck through the end of his penis.  When I tried to speak to him he looked at me as if I were a leper or an alien.  Orridge is a strange guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old live TG is getting harder and harder to find.  I just found out they did a reunion thing after I saw this article.</p>
<p>I never heard of them until 1984, and I believe Gen was doing Psychic TV then if not already.  Somebody I knew had a beta tape of a TG show.  There were stacks and stacks of boxes everywhere, and wires covering everything.  The entire stage was wires and boxes.  I didn&#8217;t know anything about them.  Cosey was very interesting to watch, but the others appeared to be on large amounts of heroin (I&#8217;m not saying they were, they just looked it).</p>
<p>Within a few months after I saw that tape I had a couple dozen TG bootlegs.  There was just nothing like the crazy sound they made when they were &#8220;on.&#8221;  A lot of people in New Orleans began imitating Chris&#8217;s sound techniques.  It would totally be safe to say that Carter was not only a pioneer of the hardware of electronic sound, he helped touch off the revolution that became postindustrial dance.  And yet so few people know anything about TG.</p>
<p>I met Gen in 1988 at the Grand Canyon.  He was wearing a large leather overcoat which barely hid his nudity underneath it.  There was a 16 penny nail stuck through the end of his penis.  When I tried to speak to him he looked at me as if I were a leper or an alien.  Orridge is a strange guy.</p>
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