Comments on: Chocolate Beer http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 26 May 2013 01:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: m00nch1ld http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375809 m00nch1ld Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375809 German brewery Veltins did a "Cappuccino Beer" a few weeks back - perfectly digusting; it did taste as vile as one imagines. But then I'm no friend of any flavoured beer. The Belgians might have a few words to say about this topic, too. German brewery Veltins did a “Cappuccino Beer” a few weeks back – perfectly digusting; it did taste as vile as one imagines. But then I’m no friend of any flavoured beer. The Belgians might have a few words to say about this topic, too.

]]> By: doggo http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375811 doggo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375811 Bah! Chocolate beer is like hazelnut coffee, needlessly adulterated. If it were my brewery, the guy who suggested adding chocolate to the beer would be looking at a pink slip. And maybe an ass-kicking in the parking lot. ... *grumble grumble* next you'll be suggesting Worcestershire or steak sauce on steak... Bah! Chocolate beer is like hazelnut coffee, needlessly adulterated. If it were my brewery, the guy who suggested adding chocolate to the beer would be looking at a pink slip. And maybe an ass-kicking in the parking lot.

… *grumble grumble* next you’ll be suggesting Worcestershire or steak sauce on steak…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375813 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375813 Ive had 24 Chocolate beers, ranging from the undrinkable to the Bloody marverlous, only about 1 third of these actually have any Chocolate in them. The best of them was Definitly the Southern Tier Chokolate. Which was a massive 10% but the alcohol was so well hidden as to be truely deceptive. As others have said Youngs is probably the most common to have chocolate in it. The brooklyn Black chocolate definitly doesnt have any, the chocolate come from the roast malts craig Ive had 24 Chocolate beers, ranging from the undrinkable to the Bloody marverlous, only about 1 third of these actually have any Chocolate in them.

The best of them was Definitly the Southern Tier Chokolate. Which was a massive 10% but the alcohol was so well hidden as to be truely deceptive.

As others have said Youngs is probably the most common to have chocolate in it. The brooklyn Black chocolate definitly doesnt have any, the chocolate come from the roast malts

craig

]]> By: Richard Kirk http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375816 Richard Kirk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375816 I had a bottle of the Young's chocolate beer the Christmas before last. The first taste was Error 404, with overtones of WTF. By about half way down the bottle, I had got used to the idea that you could taste chocolate and beer at the same time. I thought it wasn't bad, and I was expecting it to be a lot worse, but I have never bothered going back for another bottle. This Error 404 taste - you can't classify it as nice or nasty, just What The Hell Do We Have Here - doesn't happen with every random combination. Chocolate with chillies, chocolate with roast beef - those tasted pretty much as I expected (waste of good chocolate IMHO). But I also found it in... * Georgian red Champagne It's like fizzy port. It ought to be filthy or really, really good. At the end of the bottle, I still wasn't sure. * Tamarillo These are good, but they come across as something between a tomato and a banana. I didn't know there was anthing between those two. Good, though. I had a bottle of the Young’s chocolate beer the Christmas before last. The first taste was Error 404, with overtones of WTF. By about half way down the bottle, I had got used to the idea that you could taste chocolate and beer at the same time. I thought it wasn’t bad, and I was expecting it to be a lot worse, but I have never bothered going back for another bottle.

This Error 404 taste – you can’t classify it as nice or nasty, just What The Hell Do We Have Here – doesn’t happen with every random combination. Chocolate with chillies, chocolate with roast beef – those tasted pretty much as I expected (waste of good chocolate IMHO). But I also found it in…

* Georgian red Champagne

It’s like fizzy port. It ought to be filthy or really, really good. At the end of the bottle, I still wasn’t sure.

* Tamarillo

These are good, but they come across as something between a tomato and a banana. I didn’t know there was anthing between those two. Good, though.

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376072 Itsumishi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376072 @55 Annon. That Holgates chocolate porter is amazing. Especially good with the lovely Holgates Chocolate Porter Pudding! That said everything at Holgates is amazing. One of the best microbreweries around. @55 Annon.

That Holgates chocolate porter is amazing. Especially good with the lovely Holgates Chocolate Porter Pudding!

That said everything at Holgates is amazing. One of the best microbreweries around.

]]> By: Keir http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375817 Keir Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375817 I've tried chocolate beer, didn't like it. Can't remember what specific beer it was though. I’ve tried chocolate beer, didn’t like it. Can’t remember what specific beer it was though.

]]> By: arlopickens http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375818 arlopickens Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375818 Founder's makes a Breakfast Stout, which is brewed with Sumatra and Kona coffee, chocolate, and oatmeal. It's one of the best stouts on the market, maybe only second to Lion Stout and Mackeson's Triple Stout. They also make a beer called Kentucky Breakfast, which is a stronger version of their Breakfast Stout aged in bourbon barrels. It's very hard to find but Young's Double Chocolate Stout is a good chocolate stout that's easy to find and even better to find on tap. Mix it with Sam Adams' Cherry Wheat for something truly delicious. Founder’s makes a Breakfast Stout, which is brewed with Sumatra and Kona coffee, chocolate, and oatmeal. It’s one of the best stouts on the market, maybe only second to Lion Stout and Mackeson’s Triple Stout. They also make a beer called Kentucky Breakfast, which is a stronger version of their Breakfast Stout aged in bourbon barrels. It’s very hard to find but Young’s Double Chocolate Stout is a good chocolate stout that’s easy to find and even better to find on tap. Mix it with Sam Adams’ Cherry Wheat for something truly delicious.

]]> By: Birdseed http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375820 Birdseed Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375820 Besides a few stouts, I've tried this stuff: http://www.meantimebrewing.com/chocolate.html Which was okay, tasted of chocolate and beer... But the combination is ridiculous, considering the flavour potential of both ingredients. It's like combining whisky and wine, or something. Besides a few stouts, I’ve tried this stuff:

http://www.meantimebrewing.com/chocolate.html

Which was okay, tasted of chocolate and beer… But the combination is ridiculous, considering the flavour potential of both ingredients. It’s like combining whisky and wine, or something.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-709644 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-709644 its great, i just finished a can, its like a mix of a guinness with chocolate, and not sweet. im actually buying a few since its a limited edition item its great, i just finished a can, its like a mix of a guinness with chocolate, and not sweet.

im actually buying a few since its a limited edition item

]]> By: debrazadebra http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375823 debrazadebra Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375823 Kirin Choco Premium Beer (chocolate roasted malt, that is) is pretty tasty, though I think Japanese Cheetos are fubar: http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=5vTau0wJ3kQ Oh, and the Sapporo actual chocolate beer in the original post is only available through internet order between 14 & 23 Jan to be delivered 10 Feb. If I can get a hold of it, I'll def do a tastetest vid. Kirin Choco Premium Beer (chocolate roasted malt, that is) is pretty tasty, though I think Japanese Cheetos are fubar:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=5vTau0wJ3kQ

Oh, and the Sapporo actual chocolate beer in the original post is only available through internet order between 14 & 23 Jan to be delivered 10 Feb.
If I can get a hold of it, I’ll def do a tastetest vid.

]]> By: takeshi http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375829 takeshi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375829 I've seen some mentions of it already, but Young's double chocolate is delicious, and their oatmeal and coffee stouts aren't bad, either. And if you want a really strong treat, try mixing them together. Sapporo is a great beer in its own right, so I expect this to be fairly tasty. I’ve seen some mentions of it already, but Young’s double chocolate is delicious, and their oatmeal and coffee stouts aren’t bad, either. And if you want a really strong treat, try mixing them together.

Sapporo is a great beer in its own right, so I expect this to be fairly tasty.

]]> By: jtegnell http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375830 jtegnell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375830 I lived in Bamberg in northern Bavaria some years ago. One of their claims to fame is a smokey flavored beer made by multiple breweries (most famously Schlenkerla but there are others). It tastes oddly like cheese or smoked ham. I like it, but many do not. I lived in Bamberg in northern Bavaria some years ago. One of their claims to fame is a smokey flavored beer made by multiple breweries (most famously Schlenkerla but there are others).

It tastes oddly like cheese or smoked ham. I like it, but many do not.

]]> By: A Nonny Moose http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375831 A Nonny Moose Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375831 #39: <i>"This Sapporo beer is much like the Belgian chocolate beers, very different, and surprisingly tasty, although to be honest, not really beer like."</i> So you've tasted it? I'm going to guess not, since it hasn't even been released in Japan yet, and you seem to live somewhat west of there. #39: “This Sapporo beer is much like the Belgian chocolate beers, very different, and surprisingly tasty, although to be honest, not really beer like.” So you’ve tasted it? I’m going to guess not, since it hasn’t even been released in Japan yet, and you seem to live somewhat west of there.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375833 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375833 Young's Double Chocolate Stout, which has been mentioned is not only a chocolate beer, but also a VERSATILE chocolate beer. Top your pint of it with a dollop of vanilla or chocolate icecream. It is an extremely awesome icecream float. Beer is awesome. I'm curious about the Sapporo one featured here. Young’s Double Chocolate Stout, which has been mentioned is not only a chocolate beer, but also a VERSATILE chocolate beer.

Top your pint of it with a dollop of vanilla or chocolate icecream. It is an extremely awesome icecream float.

Beer is awesome.

I’m curious about the Sapporo one featured here.

]]> By: Craigger1 http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375838 Craigger1 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375838 Chocolate = Good Beer = VERY Good! Chocolate Beer = Not Good Despite the fact that both are good, when combined together I'm just not thinking this is going to catch on. Much like I don't think the Mantyhose idea will catch on either! http://activerain.com/blogsview/875214/Proof-That-the-Apocalypse-is-Closer-Than-We-Think Chocolate = Good
Beer = VERY Good!
Chocolate Beer = Not Good

Despite the fact that both are good, when combined together I’m just not thinking this is going to catch on.

Much like I don’t think the Mantyhose idea will catch on either!

http://activerain.com/blogsview/875214/Proof-That-the-Apocalypse-is-Closer-Than-We-Think

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375839 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375839 For those talking about Chocolate Stout, etc: In most cases, this beer doesn't contain actual chocolate. It contains Chocolate Malt, which is barley roasted fairly dark so that it ends up with the color of, and hints of the taste of, chocolate. So, it does have a slightly chocolately taste, but not 'cause they've added actual cocoa. This beer is a different beast. http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat/recipes/ale/stout/recipes/80.html http://www.2basnob.com/specialty-grains.html For those talking about Chocolate Stout, etc: In most cases, this beer doesn’t contain actual chocolate. It contains Chocolate Malt, which is barley roasted fairly dark so that it ends up with the color of, and hints of the taste of, chocolate.
So, it does have a slightly chocolately taste, but not ’cause they’ve added actual cocoa. This beer is a different beast.

http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat/recipes/ale/stout/recipes/80.html
http://www.2basnob.com/specialty-grains.html

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376095 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376095 A buddy of mine made a homemade chocolate stout using Govida liqueur. Pretty freaking excellent! A buddy of mine made a homemade chocolate stout using Govida liqueur. Pretty freaking excellent!

]]> By: afo http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375841 afo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375841 chocolate? try <a href="http://www.dogfish.com/brewings/Year_Round_Beers/Midas_Touch_Golden_Elixir/1/index.htm" rel="nofollow">barley, white Muscat grapes, honey & saffron</a>! good new yorker article on "extreme beer" here: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/24/081124fa_fact_bilger chocolate? try barley, white Muscat grapes, honey & saffron!

good new yorker article on “extreme beer” here:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/24/081124fa_fact_bilger

]]> By: Brownie http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375843 Brownie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375843 Chocolate beer has been around for ages and can be great -- think rich and bitter not sweet! I even have a recipe from an old homebrew book circa 1994. Also, a great dessert invented by my brother many years ago is a Guinness float -- a glass of Guinness with a scoop of dark chocolate ice cream in it. Fantastic! The only thing you have to worry about is making sure to add the ice cream carefully or you will have foam everywhere. Chocolate beer has been around for ages and can be great — think rich and bitter not sweet! I even have a recipe from an old homebrew book circa 1994.

Also, a great dessert invented by my brother many years ago is a Guinness float — a glass of Guinness with a scoop of dark chocolate ice cream in it. Fantastic! The only thing you have to worry about is making sure to add the ice cream carefully or you will have foam everywhere.

]]> By: Marshall http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375845 Marshall Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375845 Sapporo used to brew a stout called Sapporo Black - the best thing they ever brewed, and something that is much, much missed at my table. It was particularly bitter, a little chocolatey, and made the best stout floats I've ever had. I wonder if the recipe for this brew is in some way based upon Sapporo Black? Maybe Sapporo Black + Chocolate? And I'll agree with several earlier comments - most "chocolate" stouts do not contain a lick of chocolate. The chocolate referred to is chocolate malt, which just refers to a particular colour-based roasting point for malted barley. It's roasted just shy of black malt, and lacks black malt's super bitter taste, but has an awesome nutty, full flavour that definitely can add a chocolate note to a stout. Sapporo used to brew a stout called Sapporo Black – the best thing they ever brewed, and something that is much, much missed at my table. It was particularly bitter, a little chocolatey, and made the best stout floats I’ve ever had.

I wonder if the recipe for this brew is in some way based upon Sapporo Black? Maybe Sapporo Black + Chocolate?

And I’ll agree with several earlier comments – most “chocolate” stouts do not contain a lick of chocolate. The chocolate referred to is chocolate malt, which just refers to a particular colour-based roasting point for malted barley. It’s roasted just shy of black malt, and lacks black malt’s super bitter taste, but has an awesome nutty, full flavour that definitely can add a chocolate note to a stout.

]]> By: Edward http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375846 Edward Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375846 While on the subject of unusual beer flavorings, traditionally there was "cock ale." I first read of that in one of the standard books on the history of ale, but the recipe (both traditional and a modern version) is on the web at http://brewery.org/cm3/recs/13_23.html No chocolate, but various spices. Yum, if you like your beer with tough chicken. Ted While on the subject of unusual beer flavorings, traditionally there was “cock ale.” I first read of that in one of the standard books on the history of ale, but the recipe (both traditional and a modern version) is on the web at

http://brewery.org/cm3/recs/13_23.html

No chocolate, but various spices. Yum, if you like your beer with tough chicken.

Ted

]]> By: Edward http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375847 Edward Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375847 While on the subject of unusual beer flavorings, traditionally there was "cock ale." I first read of that in one of the standard books on the history of ale, but the recipe (both traditional and a modern version) is on the web at http://brewery.org/cm3/recs/13_23.html No chocolate, but various spices. Yum, if you like your beer with tough chicken. Ted While on the subject of unusual beer flavorings, traditionally there was “cock ale.” I first read of that in one of the standard books on the history of ale, but the recipe (both traditional and a modern version) is on the web at

http://brewery.org/cm3/recs/13_23.html

No chocolate, but various spices. Yum, if you like your beer with tough chicken.

Ted

]]> By: Talia http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376104 Talia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376104 There is a NY-made wine called Chocolate Lab which is exactly what it sounds like, Chocolate flavored wine. It is AMAZING!!! There is a NY-made wine called Chocolate Lab which is exactly what it sounds like, Chocolate flavored wine.

It is AMAZING!!!

]]> By: Caroline http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376106 Caroline Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376106 Richard Kirk, your Error 404 taste drives me towards food and drink. I never categorized it as such, but I know exactly what you mean now that you've said it. When I taste something that gives me an Error 404, I tend to decide I like it -- just because it intrigues me so much and I like being intrigued, even though I'm not sure if it's actually delicious. I love chocolate and coffee stouts -- quickly moved beyond "I like it because I'm intrigued" to "I like it because it's delicious" in that case. I order them frequently at bars. But I tend to prefer darker beers anyway. Give me any two beers and I can about guarantee that I'll like the darker one better. (The exception is Belgian tripels.) I can't stand most American lager-style beer. And to weave in the Douglas Fir eau de vie: in San Francisco last May, I had a beer called Will Work For Tips -- brewed with redwood tips. It was pretty Error 404, and therefore I decided I liked it. Richard Kirk, your Error 404 taste drives me towards food and drink. I never categorized it as such, but I know exactly what you mean now that you’ve said it. When I taste something that gives me an Error 404, I tend to decide I like it — just because it intrigues me so much and I like being intrigued, even though I’m not sure if it’s actually delicious.

I love chocolate and coffee stouts — quickly moved beyond “I like it because I’m intrigued” to “I like it because it’s delicious” in that case. I order them frequently at bars. But I tend to prefer darker beers anyway. Give me any two beers and I can about guarantee that I’ll like the darker one better. (The exception is Belgian tripels.) I can’t stand most American lager-style beer.

And to weave in the Douglas Fir eau de vie: in San Francisco last May, I had a beer called Will Work For Tips — brewed with redwood tips. It was pretty Error 404, and therefore I decided I liked it.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376107 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376107 If you're a connoisseur of Error 404, may I suggest <a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/08/17/404-error-pages-reloaded/">this</a>? If you’re a connoisseur of Error 404, may I suggest this?

]]> By: LagerHead http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-381740 LagerHead Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-381740 Sam Adams Chocolate Bock is one of my favorite chocolate beers of all time. It tastes like beer first, with chocolate at the end. Delicious. Sam Adams Chocolate Bock is one of my favorite chocolate beers of all time. It tastes like beer first, with chocolate at the end. Delicious.

]]> By: kidmissile http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376114 kidmissile Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376114 @#61, yeah, Founders Breakfast Stout is one of my favorite beers! For the last few years I've had a very difficult time finding it in stores, but I was happy to discover that a local bar carries it (the Brewhaus in downtown Springfield, IL for anyone who happens to be visiting the Capital :). @#61, yeah, Founders Breakfast Stout is one of my favorite beers! For the last few years I’ve had a very difficult time finding it in stores, but I was happy to discover that a local bar carries it (the Brewhaus in downtown Springfield, IL for anyone who happens to be visiting the Capital :).

]]> By: things http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376117 things Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376117 chocolate stout is my favorite beer by far chocolate stout is my favorite beer by far

]]> By: Cnoocy http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-375862 Cnoocy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-375862 Buddy66 @67, What do figs have to do with it? I'd expect to see them in a fruit beer, like a lambic or something. Buddy66 @67,
What do figs have to do with it? I’d expect to see them in a fruit beer, like a lambic or something.

]]> By: Jim Rizzo http://boingboing.net/2009/01/10/chocolate-beer.html#comment-376374 Jim Rizzo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-376374 @#91: You're just plain wrong. There are many beers made with actual chocolate and not just chocolate malt. Southern Tier Choklat is, in my opinion, the best chocolate beer ever made. Stone's 12th Anniversary Bitter Chocolate Oatmeal Stout is another (wasn't good when it was fresh, but a little age has helped the flavor). Dogfish Head made one recently with cocoa nibs called Theobroma (from an ancient recipe, so it looks as though chocolate was used before chocolate malt). Harpoon in Boston just made a Chocolate Stout with actual chocolate (I'm not a fan, but others really liked it). True, I'm pretty sure Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout or Young's Double Chocolate Stout are not made with actual chocolate, but that does not mean that there are not a lot of beers that do use actual chocolate. I'm sure there are others I am forgetting. I know there's an Italian beer that uses it. @#91: You’re just plain wrong. There are many beers made with actual chocolate and not just chocolate malt.

Southern Tier Choklat is, in my opinion, the best chocolate beer ever made.

Stone’s 12th Anniversary Bitter Chocolate Oatmeal Stout is another (wasn’t good when it was fresh, but a little age has helped the flavor).

Dogfish Head made one recently with cocoa nibs called Theobroma (from an ancient recipe, so it looks as though chocolate was used before chocolate malt).

Harpoon in Boston just made a Chocolate Stout with actual chocolate (I’m not a fan, but others really liked it).

True, I’m pretty sure Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout or Young’s Double Chocolate Stout are not made with actual chocolate, but that does not mean that there are not a lot of beers that do use actual chocolate. I’m sure there are others I am forgetting. I know there’s an Italian beer that uses it.

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