Comments on: China's mondegreen war on net-censorship http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 17:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: key http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438279 key Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438279 Wait ... it's <b>not</b> "wrapped up like a douche bag in the middle of the night"? Wait … it’s not “wrapped up like a douche bag in the middle of the night”?

]]> By: Shanghai Slim http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438280 Shanghai Slim Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438280 Here's a Chinese rap-cartoon about the "grass mud horse" and it's struggle against the "river crab" in the "ma le ge bi" desert (a homonym for "mother's p*ssy"). http://tinyurl.com/dz9o5d Here’s a Chinese rap-cartoon about the “grass mud horse” and it’s struggle against the “river crab” in the “ma le ge bi” desert (a homonym for “mother’s p*ssy”).

http://tinyurl.com/dz9o5d

]]> By: zo http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438029 zo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438029 I get the message that the video has been removed. Censorship struck fast on this one! I get the message that the video has been removed.

Censorship struck fast on this one!

]]> By: klobouk http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438031 klobouk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438031 Aaaaaaaannndd.... Down already. Aaaaaaaannndd…. Down already.

]]> By: klobouk http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438032 klobouk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438032 Aaargh, beaten to the punch by moments. Aaargh, beaten to the punch by moments.

]]> By: hiyayaywhopee http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438295 hiyayaywhopee Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438295 Ah, we've done something very similar before. d00d, 1tz 4w5um th4t ch1n353 p30p|3 4r3 f1ght1ng c3n50r5h1p w1th th31r 0wn l33t sp34k. Ah, we’ve done something very similar before.

d00d, 1tz 4w5um th4t ch1n353 p30p|3 4r3 f1ght1ng c3n50r5h1p w1th th31r 0wn l33t sp34k.

]]> By: robzor http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438296 robzor Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438296 This smacks of the language homoesexuals used to use, Polari, to disguise homoesexual activity and talk from undercover policemen (back when homosexuality was illegal) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari This smacks of the language homoesexuals used to use, Polari, to disguise homoesexual activity and talk from undercover policemen (back when homosexuality was illegal)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari

]]> By: stuckinkiel http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438042 stuckinkiel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438042 I'm interested in the Chinese translations of "grass mud horse" and it's homonyms. Is Grass mud horse, 草泥馬 (cÇŽo ní mÇŽ), supposed to be 操你媽 (cào nǐ mā) or 肏你媽 (also cào nǐ mā)? Can any native Chinese speakers help me? Here's one link to the video, there are plenty out there if you search for "grass mud horse" or "草泥馬" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp5eVClV334 I think the one that was originally linked to might have been an actual CTV news report about alpacas. I’m interested in the Chinese translations of “grass mud horse” and it’s homonyms.

Is Grass mud horse, 草泥馬 (cǎo ní mǎ), supposed to be 操你媽 (cào nǐ mā) or 肏你媽 (also cào nǐ mā)? Can any native Chinese speakers help me?

Here’s one link to the video, there are plenty out there if you search for “grass mud horse” or “草泥馬”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp5eVClV334

I think the one that was originally linked to might have been an actual CTV news report about alpacas.

]]> By: stuckinkiel http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438048 stuckinkiel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438048 Another one with kids singing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKx1aenJK08 Another one with kids singing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKx1aenJK08

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-439328 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-439328 I really wish I can translate the songs and share with you guys but believe me, any translation spoil 99.99% of the fun. - some chinese guy I really wish I can translate the songs and share with you guys but believe me, any translation spoil 99.99% of the fun.

- some chinese guy

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-439077 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-439077 Interesting to see the parallels with other despotic regimes. In Brazil (and I'm sure in many other countries), revolutionary artists under the dictatorship wrote many lyrics that were revolutionary without running afowl of censorship limits by using puns and other tricks. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_Buarque#.22C.C3.A1lice.22 The most famous example. The interesting thing is that these artists are today some of the most famous ones in Brazil, and these songs are still some of the most popular. The dictatorship and its censorship led to a musical and artistic revolution. To this day, some of Brazil's best artists are sons and daughters of the fight against the regime. -ML Interesting to see the parallels with other despotic regimes. In Brazil (and I’m sure in many other countries), revolutionary artists under the dictatorship wrote many lyrics that were revolutionary without running afowl of censorship limits by using puns and other tricks.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_Buarque#.22C.C3.A1lice.22

The most famous example. The interesting thing is that these artists are today some of the most famous ones in Brazil, and these songs are still some of the most popular. The dictatorship and its censorship led to a musical and artistic revolution. To this day, some of Brazil’s best artists are sons and daughters of the fight against the regime.

-ML

]]> By: Cupcake Faerie http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438095 Cupcake Faerie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438095 WOW. Sure is sad how much Google kow tows to the Chinese... WOW. Sure is sad how much Google kow tows to the Chinese…

]]> By: postliteracy_dot_org http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438353 postliteracy_dot_org Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438353 There's backstory to the mythical "grass-mud horse" that might help illuminate its role in protesting censorship. It's one of the Baidu 10 Mythical Creatures, along with the fÇŽ kè yóu, or French Croatian Squid. Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu_10_Mythical_Creatures_(Internet_meme) And a discussion of its significance in a larger cultural and intellectual context. Also, lyrics! http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/03/02/china-more-on-grass-mud-horse/ There’s backstory to the mythical “grass-mud horse” that might help illuminate its role in protesting censorship. It’s one of the Baidu 10 Mythical Creatures, along with the fÇŽ kè yóu, or French Croatian Squid.

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu_10_Mythical_Creatures_(Internet_meme)

And a discussion of its significance in a larger cultural and intellectual context. Also, lyrics!

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/03/02/china-more-on-grass-mud-horse/

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-440403 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-440403 肏 is more insulting but fewer people understand it. 操 is more universal. But both of them mean "fuck" in this context. (操 can be used in many different ways, like marching 步操) - same chinese guy as #15 肏 is more insulting but fewer people understand it. 操 is more universal. But both of them mean “fuck” in this context. (操 can be used in many different ways, like marching 步操)

- same chinese guy as #15

]]> By: samu http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438146 samu Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438146 stuckinkiel, I think 操 is just used as a slightly less filthy alternative to 肏. For the benefit of other readers, 肏 (meaning, as we've seen, "fuck") consists of 入, meaning "entry", and 肉, meaning "meat". Delightfully graphic :D stuckinkiel, I think 操 is just used as a slightly less filthy alternative to 肏.

For the benefit of other readers, 肏 (meaning, as we’ve seen, “fuck”) consists of å…¥, meaning “entry”, and 肉, meaning “meat”. Delightfully graphic :D

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-439712 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-439712 @ stuckinkiel "Is Grass mud horse, 草泥馬 (cǎo ní mǎ), supposed to be 操你媽 (cào nǐ mā) or 肏你媽 (also cào nǐ mā)? Can any native Chinese speakers help me?" Yes, you are 100% right on this. Another funny rap version of Grass-mud-horse song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Fl3q5gZNc @ stuckinkiel

“Is Grass mud horse, 草泥馬 (cÇŽo ní mÇŽ), supposed to be 操你媽 (cào nǐ mā) or 肏你媽 (also cào nǐ mā)? Can any native Chinese speakers help me?”

Yes, you are 100% right on this.

Another funny rap version of Grass-mud-horse song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Fl3q5gZNc

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/03/13/chinas-mondegreen-wa.html#comment-438694 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-438694 Artists in the united states do the same thing... see "If you seek Amy"... Artists in the united states do the same thing…

see “If you seek Amy”…

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