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	<title>Comments on: Scavenger&#039;s Manifesto: HOWTO be an urban&#160;scavenger</title>
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		<title>By: Boeotian</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452098</link>
		<dc:creator>Boeotian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found my queen-size wooden bed neatly disassembled in a sidewalk. It is rock solid, in perfect shape, and I&#039;ve been using it for years. But the matress is new, I wouldn&#039;t use a scavenged one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found my queen-size wooden bed neatly disassembled in a sidewalk. It is rock solid, in perfect shape, and I&#8217;ve been using it for years. But the matress is new, I wouldn&#8217;t use a scavenged one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dedalus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452099</link>
		<dc:creator>Dedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paramax --- is a philosophical choice to use less and subsist happily -- its not &quot;cool&quot; in fact its downright uncool if not even subversive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paramax &#8212; is a philosophical choice to use less and subsist happily &#8212; its not &#8220;cool&#8221; in fact its downright uncool if not even subversive</p>
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		<title>By: Dedalus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452100</link>
		<dc:creator>Dedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh - and Steal This Book - is another good one on subsistence (goes to take a power nap)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh &#8211; and Steal This Book &#8211; is another good one on subsistence (goes to take a power nap)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-468741</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you like the Scavenger Manifesto you should check out Steven Zelin&#039;s song &quot;Free Furniture Day,&quot; which is about finding furniture on the street on garbage day in New York City!  Free listening sample is available   at  http://cdbaby.com/cd/zelin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like the Scavenger Manifesto you should check out Steven Zelin&#8217;s song &#8220;Free Furniture Day,&#8221; which is about finding furniture on the street on garbage day in New York City!  Free listening sample is available   at  <a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/zelin" rel="nofollow">http://cdbaby.com/cd/zelin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452107</link>
		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;paramax --- is a philosophical choice to use less and subsist happily -- its not &quot;cool&quot; in fact its downright uncool if not even subversive&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Eh, I disagree.  I go for a very minimalistic life.  Granted, I don&#039;t go to the extreme of dumpster diving for dinner, but that amount of &quot;stuff&quot; I have is pretty bare bones and basic.  Most people that I know (and granted, I do live in Cambridge/Somerville, MA where people are not exactly &quot;average&quot;) are rather envious of my life style.  I think most people like the idea of being free from &quot;stuff&quot;, they just have a hard time executing on it.

If you look at the extreme stereotype, think of some eastern monk who has achieved detachment, contentment, and enlightenment.  Most people might not choose that life style, but I think that most people admire it greatly.  Granted, if are a dirty bleary eyed hippie rooting around a dumpster for dinner you probably are not going to have any admirers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>paramax &#8212; is a philosophical choice to use less and subsist happily &#8212; its not &#8220;cool&#8221; in fact its downright uncool if not even subversive</p></blockquote>
<p>Eh, I disagree.  I go for a very minimalistic life.  Granted, I don&#8217;t go to the extreme of dumpster diving for dinner, but that amount of &#8220;stuff&#8221; I have is pretty bare bones and basic.  Most people that I know (and granted, I do live in Cambridge/Somerville, MA where people are not exactly &#8220;average&#8221;) are rather envious of my life style.  I think most people like the idea of being free from &#8220;stuff&#8221;, they just have a hard time executing on it.</p>
<p>If you look at the extreme stereotype, think of some eastern monk who has achieved detachment, contentment, and enlightenment.  Most people might not choose that life style, but I think that most people admire it greatly.  Granted, if are a dirty bleary eyed hippie rooting around a dumpster for dinner you probably are not going to have any admirers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nycteris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452112</link>
		<dc:creator>Nycteris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely generate boxes of &quot;good things I no longer want&quot; and know the feeling of waste. Our Goodwill stores get so many items they are picky about what they take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely generate boxes of &#8220;good things I no longer want&#8221; and know the feeling of waste. Our Goodwill stores get so many items they are picky about what they take.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452374</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recent finds of note:

Dell 19&quot; flatscreen monitor. I guess someone upgraded to a larger widescreen flatscreen and didn&#039;t know what to do with the &quot;little&quot; monitor that came with their computer.

Biostar iDeq 210v computer. 2.2 Ghz, 512 mb ram, nvidia 6100 grafix. Worked fine. I put a larger drive (320 gb SATA, scavenged) and a DVD burner (also scavenged) in it and installed Mythbuntu. A co-worker is turning it into a PVR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent finds of note:</p>
<p>Dell 19&#8243; flatscreen monitor. I guess someone upgraded to a larger widescreen flatscreen and didn&#8217;t know what to do with the &#8220;little&#8221; monitor that came with their computer.</p>
<p>Biostar iDeq 210v computer. 2.2 Ghz, 512 mb ram, nvidia 6100 grafix. Worked fine. I put a larger drive (320 gb SATA, scavenged) and a DVD burner (also scavenged) in it and installed Mythbuntu. A co-worker is turning it into a PVR.</p>
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		<title>By: stegodon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452119</link>
		<dc:creator>stegodon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 11 Yeah, Evasion, I remember that book, part of the whole Crimethinc (sp?) thing, right? I am not a dumpster diver, but I get it. The window in my office faces the back side of a ritzy grocery store and there are always kids out there in tight jeans smoking hand-rolled cigs and leaning up against the wall with their fixed gear bikes waiting for the clerks to come out with the old produce and gently set it on top of the actual refuse in the dumpster with a wink and a nod so that it can easily be scooped up. I think the policy would change if there were some grimy homeless types lined up out there for a handout. Who knows. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 11 Yeah, Evasion, I remember that book, part of the whole Crimethinc (sp?) thing, right? I am not a dumpster diver, but I get it. The window in my office faces the back side of a ritzy grocery store and there are always kids out there in tight jeans smoking hand-rolled cigs and leaning up against the wall with their fixed gear bikes waiting for the clerks to come out with the old produce and gently set it on top of the actual refuse in the dumpster with a wink and a nod so that it can easily be scooped up. I think the policy would change if there were some grimy homeless types lined up out there for a handout. Who knows. </p>
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		<title>By: heydemann3</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452120</link>
		<dc:creator>heydemann3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rindan-you have articulated the very problem this book is trying to correct; the image of scavenging as something done by &quot;dirty bleary eyed hippies&quot;.
The foods mostly pulled from dumpsters are cans that are dented but not out of date and still sealed day old breads, not the scraped out leftover deli salads and fried chicken.
And that eastern monk mostly gets to enjoy his detachment because someone else brings him a bowl or two of rice that was grown somewhere else.
Many of the scavengers will pull goods they don&#039;t use to either give away or resell to thrift stores and charities. If you&#039;re going to toss the baby clothes once they&#039;re outgrown, why shouldn&#039;t another baby get to wear them? After all, they&#039;re probably in a plastic bag, and baby stuff is made to washed a lot.
And the third world families who make their livings by scavenging off of industrial and electronic waste are first-responding recyclers. They are finding a resource which has value and extracting it from it&#039;s surrounding dross, for which they get paid. Not enough, mind you, but still something. It just doesn&#039;t look all technological and shiny, so it must be horrible and demeaning. But it sure beats starving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rindan-you have articulated the very problem this book is trying to correct; the image of scavenging as something done by &#8220;dirty bleary eyed hippies&#8221;.<br />
The foods mostly pulled from dumpsters are cans that are dented but not out of date and still sealed day old breads, not the scraped out leftover deli salads and fried chicken.<br />
And that eastern monk mostly gets to enjoy his detachment because someone else brings him a bowl or two of rice that was grown somewhere else.<br />
Many of the scavengers will pull goods they don&#8217;t use to either give away or resell to thrift stores and charities. If you&#8217;re going to toss the baby clothes once they&#8217;re outgrown, why shouldn&#8217;t another baby get to wear them? After all, they&#8217;re probably in a plastic bag, and baby stuff is made to washed a lot.<br />
And the third world families who make their livings by scavenging off of industrial and electronic waste are first-responding recyclers. They are finding a resource which has value and extracting it from it&#8217;s surrounding dross, for which they get paid. Not enough, mind you, but still something. It just doesn&#8217;t look all technological and shiny, so it must be horrible and demeaning. But it sure beats starving.</p>
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		<title>By: ARCANE12</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452633</link>
		<dc:creator>ARCANE12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good to hear that others like myself do not exist to consume mindless technology or things,things,things!
ARCANE12</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good to hear that others like myself do not exist to consume mindless technology or things,things,things!<br />
ARCANE12</p>
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		<title>By: Dedalus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452127</link>
		<dc:creator>Dedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can still have cable tv - and a jetta (just for example) and find useful &quot;treasure&quot; while getting exercise, having fun, and keeping stuff from ending up in a landfill --- and the whole idea of practicing subsistence incase... oh... one day you HAVE TO - thats not a bad idea either - different degrees of philosophical choices here - remember... anarchy is a state of MIND</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can still have cable tv &#8211; and a jetta (just for example) and find useful &#8220;treasure&#8221; while getting exercise, having fun, and keeping stuff from ending up in a landfill &#8212; and the whole idea of practicing subsistence incase&#8230; oh&#8230; one day you HAVE TO &#8211; thats not a bad idea either &#8211; different degrees of philosophical choices here &#8211; remember&#8230; anarchy is a state of MIND</p>
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		<title>By: Dedalus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452131</link>
		<dc:creator>Dedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and #22 - ur right - alot has to do with appearances --- but when i worked at a pizza place we ALWAYS - saved the leftover pizzas for the homeless dudes that would be waiting in the alley (usually wede even make extra on purpose) - not trying to sound like im better than a grocery-store clerk - but most people do what they can... ide like to assume...
(naive?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and #22 &#8211; ur right &#8211; alot has to do with appearances &#8212; but when i worked at a pizza place we ALWAYS &#8211; saved the leftover pizzas for the homeless dudes that would be waiting in the alley (usually wede even make extra on purpose) &#8211; not trying to sound like im better than a grocery-store clerk &#8211; but most people do what they can&#8230; ide like to assume&#8230;<br />
(naive?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452140</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in an upper-middle-class neighborhood, my father was VP of Sales at his company, and my mother was a teacher.

We still shopped at thrift stores, garage sales, and flea markets, and my mother was an unstoppable curb-picker. I think she&#039;d probably draw the line at dumpster diving, likely only because climbing in and out of the dumpster, and dragging her finds out, would be too hard.

She eventually had to &quot;curb&quot; her habit because the family home was quite full, but when I bought a house with my husband she went berserk and furnished the whole place for under $200. We&#039;re even well decorated - admittedly we look a little like the 70&#039;s are still going on, but everything matches and the house has original 70&#039;s parquet flooring anyways.

I think mom actually has an edge because of the neighborhood she&#039;s in - well off people buy some expensive things that can last through lots of use, and then throw them out when they&#039;re still in good shape because the color isn&#039;t trendy any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in an upper-middle-class neighborhood, my father was VP of Sales at his company, and my mother was a teacher.</p>
<p>We still shopped at thrift stores, garage sales, and flea markets, and my mother was an unstoppable curb-picker. I think she&#8217;d probably draw the line at dumpster diving, likely only because climbing in and out of the dumpster, and dragging her finds out, would be too hard.</p>
<p>She eventually had to &#8220;curb&#8221; her habit because the family home was quite full, but when I bought a house with my husband she went berserk and furnished the whole place for under $200. We&#8217;re even well decorated &#8211; admittedly we look a little like the 70&#8242;s are still going on, but everything matches and the house has original 70&#8242;s parquet flooring anyways.</p>
<p>I think mom actually has an edge because of the neighborhood she&#8217;s in &#8211; well off people buy some expensive things that can last through lots of use, and then throw them out when they&#8217;re still in good shape because the color isn&#8217;t trendy any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiggy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452143</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I nearly bought an overpriced designers&#039;lamp when someone left one in my apartment block&#039;s dumpster. There was nothing wrong with it either! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I nearly bought an overpriced designers&#8217;lamp when someone left one in my apartment block&#8217;s dumpster. There was nothing wrong with it either! </p>
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		<title>By: lakelady</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakelady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does this book cover the opposite end of the spectrum? How to effectively rid yourself of stuff and pass it on? I hate throwing still usefull stuff out and yet don&#039;t always know how/where to pass it on. Putting it on the curb is not a good option where I live. Ideas appreciated. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does this book cover the opposite end of the spectrum? How to effectively rid yourself of stuff and pass it on? I hate throwing still usefull stuff out and yet don&#8217;t always know how/where to pass it on. Putting it on the curb is not a good option where I live. Ideas appreciated. </p>
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		<title>By: urshrew</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452150</link>
		<dc:creator>urshrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the concept of finding things and reusing them. As I move from a long term living situation, I&#039;m really embarrassed at the amount of crap I&#039;ve accumulated. The problem is, there&#039;s nothing I can do about a lot of it. I rarely purchase stuff, but when I do, it comes with a whole bag of wonderfully useless goodies (packages, plastic bits, do-dads) that you can&#039;t give away or do anything with but throw away. Still, taking the time to look for things that other people don&#039;t want, that you can use, could save your soul, considering how crushing owning crap can be over time.

I&#039;m also a little incensed at the bleary eyed hippy statement as a pejorative. I knew a group of hippies whose daily activities where to dumpster dive for groceries, sort the good stuff from the bad stuff, then redistribute it to the poor and homeless in their communities. Sorry if you look at their lifestyle on the surface as &#039;dirty&#039; and distasteful, but they&#039;re doing the world a service, in their own little way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the concept of finding things and reusing them. As I move from a long term living situation, I&#8217;m really embarrassed at the amount of crap I&#8217;ve accumulated. The problem is, there&#8217;s nothing I can do about a lot of it. I rarely purchase stuff, but when I do, it comes with a whole bag of wonderfully useless goodies (packages, plastic bits, do-dads) that you can&#8217;t give away or do anything with but throw away. Still, taking the time to look for things that other people don&#8217;t want, that you can use, could save your soul, considering how crushing owning crap can be over time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a little incensed at the bleary eyed hippy statement as a pejorative. I knew a group of hippies whose daily activities where to dumpster dive for groceries, sort the good stuff from the bad stuff, then redistribute it to the poor and homeless in their communities. Sorry if you look at their lifestyle on the surface as &#8216;dirty&#8217; and distasteful, but they&#8217;re doing the world a service, in their own little way.</p>
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		<title>By: calabanos</title>
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		<dc:creator>calabanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After just last night watching the &quot;Dumpster Baby&quot; episode of &quot;It&#039;s Always Sunny in Philadelphia&quot; I find this post and comments especially hilarious.

Yes, you can spend countless hours of your time scavenging for things you don&#039;t really need, or spend a more reasonable amount of time working, earning money, and buy the things that you need. 

Scavenging can be an enjoyable hobby, but it is no way to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After just last night watching the &#8220;Dumpster Baby&#8221; episode of &#8220;It&#8217;s Always Sunny in Philadelphia&#8221; I find this post and comments especially hilarious.</p>
<p>Yes, you can spend countless hours of your time scavenging for things you don&#8217;t really need, or spend a more reasonable amount of time working, earning money, and buy the things that you need. </p>
<p>Scavenging can be an enjoyable hobby, but it is no way to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Phikus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452156</link>
		<dc:creator>Phikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When in college, I befriended a homeless man who had a degree and could have been quite affluent but chose instead to be a kind of Sufi mystic, conscientiously not participating in the economy. I let him have a broken bathroom in our coop to live in that no one would fix and he was quite happy with it.  I would give him all the fruit that was too ripe for general consumption and he would wait several more weeks before eating it.  He had the dumpster diving down; knew exactly where to go and when, and it was always amazing to see what he&#039;d pull out of the someone&#039;s trash.  One time I challenged him to produce a meal for us that would be as good as any we might buy at the store, and he did it in just a few hours!  How did we know the food was good?  He pulled out steaks, still frozen, in their original packaging and well within the use-by date (he knew where the condos were where people would throw out the contents of their fridge rather than move them.) We ate very well that night and I happily lost the bet.  He knew all kinds of hatha yoga and shiatsu massage and contributed to everyone&#039;s well being with his wisdom and non-sequitor interjections.  It was quite fascinating to watch him at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When in college, I befriended a homeless man who had a degree and could have been quite affluent but chose instead to be a kind of Sufi mystic, conscientiously not participating in the economy. I let him have a broken bathroom in our coop to live in that no one would fix and he was quite happy with it.  I would give him all the fruit that was too ripe for general consumption and he would wait several more weeks before eating it.  He had the dumpster diving down; knew exactly where to go and when, and it was always amazing to see what he&#8217;d pull out of the someone&#8217;s trash.  One time I challenged him to produce a meal for us that would be as good as any we might buy at the store, and he did it in just a few hours!  How did we know the food was good?  He pulled out steaks, still frozen, in their original packaging and well within the use-by date (he knew where the condos were where people would throw out the contents of their fridge rather than move them.) We ate very well that night and I happily lost the bet.  He knew all kinds of hatha yoga and shiatsu massage and contributed to everyone&#8217;s well being with his wisdom and non-sequitor interjections.  It was quite fascinating to watch him at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452669</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Scavenging can be an enjoyable hobby, but it is no way to live.&lt;/i&gt;

Anything that keeps that crap out of landfills is a great way to live. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Scavenging can be an enjoyable hobby, but it is no way to live.</i></p>
<p>Anything that keeps that crap out of landfills is a great way to live. </p>
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		<title>By: Piers W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452414</link>
		<dc:creator>Piers W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40 Flaminica 

&quot;Lamps and other electronics that &quot;seem to work&quot; may have faulty wiring and are dangerous fire risks.&quot;

A multimeter and a screwdriver are useful items, so much so that I&#039;ve never found a working multimeter on a skip (dumpster). Plenty of screwdrivers and other tools though.

I have stuff from skips I&#039;d hesitate about whether I could afford to buy or not, for example a Mart Stam chrome and leather chair, and the seriously heavy duty paper shredder I found the other day thrown out by the Department of Health - about two years old, list price Â£700.

I usually leave scrap metal / wire unless I have an immediate use for it, there are people who go round after it for a living, and they need the money more than I do.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40 Flaminica </p>
<p>&#8220;Lamps and other electronics that &#8220;seem to work&#8221; may have faulty wiring and are dangerous fire risks.&#8221;</p>
<p>A multimeter and a screwdriver are useful items, so much so that I&#8217;ve never found a working multimeter on a skip (dumpster). Plenty of screwdrivers and other tools though.</p>
<p>I have stuff from skips I&#8217;d hesitate about whether I could afford to buy or not, for example a Mart Stam chrome and leather chair, and the seriously heavy duty paper shredder I found the other day thrown out by the Department of Health &#8211; about two years old, list price Â£700.</p>
<p>I usually leave scrap metal / wire unless I have an immediate use for it, there are people who go round after it for a living, and they need the money more than I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Isara</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452165</link>
		<dc:creator>Isara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh. I work a few blocks from Tilden Park. Maybe I should take a trip up there for lunch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh. I work a few blocks from Tilden Park. Maybe I should take a trip up there for lunch!</p>
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		<title>By: jestar_jokin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452168</link>
		<dc:creator>jestar_jokin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27, see if there&#039;s a freecycling group in your area (www.freecycle.org). It&#039;s basically classified ads for free stuff!

If it&#039;s outdated electronics, you could investigate recyclers who will accept the goods (though you usually have to pay for them to take it, which is a bit daft). Whitegoods can always go to a scrap metal merchant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27, see if there&#8217;s a freecycling group in your area (www.freecycle.org). It&#8217;s basically classified ads for free stuff!</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s outdated electronics, you could investigate recyclers who will accept the goods (though you usually have to pay for them to take it, which is a bit daft). Whitegoods can always go to a scrap metal merchant.</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452171</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;there&#039;s really not a good way to tell the good from the bad.&lt;/i&gt;

Not even remotely true. Try reading Lars Eighner&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www1.broward.edu/~nplakcy/docs/dumpster_diving.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;On Dumpster Diving&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for a quick rundown on what to avoid. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>there&#8217;s really not a good way to tell the good from the bad.</i></p>
<p>Not even remotely true. Try reading Lars Eighner&#8217;s <a href="http://www1.broward.edu/~nplakcy/docs/dumpster_diving.htm"><i>On Dumpster Diving</i></a> for a quick rundown on what to avoid. </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-453451</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ew. 1,000 x grosser than eating tossed food.&lt;/i&gt;

Tossed? Nice word choice.</description>
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<p>Tossed? Nice word choice.</p>
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		<title>By: fullerenedream</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452174</link>
		<dc:creator>fullerenedream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The field is carpeted with so-called Miner&#039;s lettuce, a leafy native plant, which is the object of our urban foraging.&lt;/i&gt;

Be careful - the urban ground your plants are growing in could be toxic, and some toxins get drawn up into plants. Legally acceptable levels of toxins in the ground may be higher if an area is not zoned for residential use. This makes me sad, because otherwise I love the idea of urban foraging. Maybe just do a little research into previous uses of the land you&#039;re foraging on first? Perhaps this is even mentioned in the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The field is carpeted with so-called Miner&#8217;s lettuce, a leafy native plant, which is the object of our urban foraging.</i></p>
<p>Be careful &#8211; the urban ground your plants are growing in could be toxic, and some toxins get drawn up into plants. Legally acceptable levels of toxins in the ground may be higher if an area is not zoned for residential use. This makes me sad, because otherwise I love the idea of urban foraging. Maybe just do a little research into previous uses of the land you&#8217;re foraging on first? Perhaps this is even mentioned in the book.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff.simmermon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452182</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff.simmermon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for scavenging in theory -- I *love* finding something cool and weird and integrating it into my home. 

But now that I&#039;m a New Yorker, I am terrified of bedbugs. One person with one infested couch can unleash months of itchy parasitic pain on an apartment building. 

Whenever I see an abandoned piece of furniture on the side of the street I fantasize about being Kurt Russel with a flamethrower in &quot;The Thing,&quot; and performing a valuable public service. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for scavenging in theory &#8212; I *love* finding something cool and weird and integrating it into my home. </p>
<p>But now that I&#8217;m a New Yorker, I am terrified of bedbugs. One person with one infested couch can unleash months of itchy parasitic pain on an apartment building. </p>
<p>Whenever I see an abandoned piece of furniture on the side of the street I fantasize about being Kurt Russel with a flamethrower in &#8220;The Thing,&#8221; and performing a valuable public service. </p>
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		<title>By: Deacon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452188</link>
		<dc:creator>Deacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in Africa I perhaps have a different take on the entire idea of &#039;scavenging&#039;. You see in this part of the world this idea is not a new one, we have had scavenging for decades but we have had scavenging due to necessity. There are literally hundreds of thousands of poor and destitute people in Africa who are forced to scavenge on a daily basis.

Unfortunately though there are still massive income disparities and far too many people who are wasteful even when they are fully aware of the levels of suffering other people they share the continent with live with. Having seen how many people are forced to scavenge though I find it hard to accept that there are people who would do it willingly - though maybe scavenging is not quite as off putting when you actually have a house to return to after your nightly forage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in Africa I perhaps have a different take on the entire idea of &#8216;scavenging&#8217;. You see in this part of the world this idea is not a new one, we have had scavenging for decades but we have had scavenging due to necessity. There are literally hundreds of thousands of poor and destitute people in Africa who are forced to scavenge on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Unfortunately though there are still massive income disparities and far too many people who are wasteful even when they are fully aware of the levels of suffering other people they share the continent with live with. Having seen how many people are forced to scavenge though I find it hard to accept that there are people who would do it willingly &#8211; though maybe scavenging is not quite as off putting when you actually have a house to return to after your nightly forage.</p>
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		<title>By: MrsBug</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452191</link>
		<dc:creator>MrsBug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#27, LakeLady,
Allow me to introduce you to the joys of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freecycle.org/&quot;&gt;Freecycle&lt;/a&gt;, which is basically an internet free garage sale. It&#039;s great. I&#039;ve gotten rid of TONS of great, but not useful to me, stuff and actually gotten a few goodies too. I put a post saying I was looking for a water bath canner (to do fruits and jams) and a guy said he had one. I&#039;ve been using it about a year and a half now and it&#039;s been a gem.

Also, I belive Craiglist has a free section. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#27, LakeLady,<br />
Allow me to introduce you to the joys of <a href="http://www.freecycle.org/">Freecycle</a>, which is basically an internet free garage sale. It&#8217;s great. I&#8217;ve gotten rid of TONS of great, but not useful to me, stuff and actually gotten a few goodies too. I put a post saying I was looking for a water bath canner (to do fruits and jams) and a guy said he had one. I&#8217;ve been using it about a year and a half now and it&#8217;s been a gem.</p>
<p>Also, I belive Craiglist has a free section. </p>
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		<title>By: mgfarrelly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452210</link>
		<dc:creator>mgfarrelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the first libraries I worked at hosted a used book sale. Mainly books that had gone beyond repair or were radically out-dated non-fiction (&quot;One day our Astro-Men will walk upon the surface of fair luna!&quot;) plus many donated books.

At the end of the book sale we had a bunch left over. Being librarians, we did not want to throw out even the most grotty of materials. You don&#039;t throw out books. 

So we tried to donate them to a brown elephant, who did not want them, then a university library (historical purposes?), even just giving them away in the vestibule, no dice.

Finally found a home for them in the Book and Paper arts program at Columbia College. Those old books have been mutated, shredded and transformed into countless works of art. Wonderful. 

The lesson learned, Artists always need raw materials. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the first libraries I worked at hosted a used book sale. Mainly books that had gone beyond repair or were radically out-dated non-fiction (&#8220;One day our Astro-Men will walk upon the surface of fair luna!&#8221;) plus many donated books.</p>
<p>At the end of the book sale we had a bunch left over. Being librarians, we did not want to throw out even the most grotty of materials. You don&#8217;t throw out books. </p>
<p>So we tried to donate them to a brown elephant, who did not want them, then a university library (historical purposes?), even just giving them away in the vestibule, no dice.</p>
<p>Finally found a home for them in the Book and Paper arts program at Columbia College. Those old books have been mutated, shredded and transformed into countless works of art. Wonderful. </p>
<p>The lesson learned, Artists always need raw materials. </p>
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		<title>By: michaepf</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/03/30/scavengers-manifesto.html#comment-452213</link>
		<dc:creator>michaepf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo to the minimalists, but I love having stuff :D Although it&#039;s gonna be a pain when we move later this summer.</description>
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