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	<title>Comments on: Homemade 3D printer goop made from maltodextrin costs 1/50 of the real&#160;stuff</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-461062</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maltodextrin is not a &quot;nutritional supplement&quot;, it&#039;s a food additive.  It&#039; an MSG product, and it can cause a reaction if you&#039;re sensitive to MSG or glutens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maltodextrin is not a &#8220;nutritional supplement&#8221;, it&#8217;s a food additive.  It&#8217; an MSG product, and it can cause a reaction if you&#8217;re sensitive to MSG or glutens.</p>
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		<title>By: jackm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-658694</link>
		<dc:creator>jackm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of printer are they using for their material? It sounds like an SLA, perhaps like a ZCorp or variant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of printer are they using for their material? It sounds like an SLA, perhaps like a ZCorp or variant?</p>
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		<title>By: dculberson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-460830</link>
		<dc:creator>dculberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Combine with a line laser and the free (as in beer, not speech, unfortunately) &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.david-laserscanner.com/&quot;&gt;David Laser Scanner&lt;/A&gt; software for a complete low budget 3d scanning and printing solution!

[no relation, just think it&#039;s a cool scanner thingy]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Combine with a line laser and the free (as in beer, not speech, unfortunately) <a HREF="http://www.david-laserscanner.com/">David Laser Scanner</a> software for a complete low budget 3d scanning and printing solution!</p>
<p>[no relation, just think it's a cool scanner thingy]</p>
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		<title>By: ill lich</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-460834</link>
		<dc:creator>ill lich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I foresee a rodent problem developing in his 3-D printer.</description>
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		<title>By: LightningRose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-461101</link>
		<dc:creator>LightningRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for writing &quot;costs 1/50&quot; instead the far more common, but erroneous, &quot;50 times less&quot;.

That&#039;s one of my pet peeves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for writing &#8220;costs 1/50&#8243; instead the far more common, but erroneous, &#8220;50 times less&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of my pet peeves.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-460860</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EvilMadScientist Laboritories basically rebuilt a RepRap type system using common white sugar instead of thermoplastic. It&#039;s cheaper than plastic :D

They call it the candyfab - http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php?story=candyfab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EvilMadScientist Laboritories basically rebuilt a RepRap type system using common white sugar instead of thermoplastic. It&#8217;s cheaper than plastic :D</p>
<p>They call it the candyfab &#8211; <a href="http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php?story=candyfab" rel="nofollow">http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php?story=candyfab</a></p>
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		<title>By: urshrew</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-460862</link>
		<dc:creator>urshrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I foresee companies attempting to make it very difficult for us to implement this idea. Although, I don&#039;t think they&#039;ve been very successful with blocking independent toner refill sales on ebay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I foresee companies attempting to make it very difficult for us to implement this idea. Although, I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ve been very successful with blocking independent toner refill sales on ebay.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Garrison</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-460864</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still waiting for something that can print out Rei Toei...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for something that can print out Rei Toei&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-460874</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/04/07/rapid-prototyping-ma.html</description>
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		<title>By: ariadneallan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ariadneallan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@10 Thanks for the link to the article. I haven&#039;t gotten Ceramics Monthly in several years, not having time to work with clay anymore, but this has me itching to get back into it.

The rough appearance could be a design feature (they *could* smooth it out somewhat) or it could be partially due to the choice of clay body. Terra Cotta (the second photo) is always rougher than a more refined clay like porcelain. It fires to a lower temperature and is porous enough that it will never hold water on its own. To get a cohesive pot the clay portion of their mix is not just &quot;clay&quot;, but a a combo of probably 5 ingredients, hence the RedArt. Most potters don&#039;t make their own clay body. Another option is a natural clay (like something dug out of the local riverbed) that happens to fire to the appropriate temp. Many natural clays still need additives to come to temperature.

I would wonder about the weight of the pieces and the density of the clay. When you are making a pot, whether extruding it, hand building, or throwing it, you are actively compressing and smoothing the clay particles as you work. I don&#039;t know all that much about objects created with 3D printing, but I imagine the printer almost gently setting layer upon layer, and that cohesion is due to the binding agents. I don&#039;t doubt that it would stay together if they had the right clay composition, but it must be rather light weight. 

If one was going for a really light weight 3D printed ceramic object they could try using paperclay. Paperclay is about 25% paper (usually toilet paper dissolved in water and blended) with 75% slurried clay body. It turns out lighter and stronger (at least when it is in a greenware state). You could dry that mix out and add the binding agent... Of course technology and clay dust aren&#039;t happy companions, so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@10 Thanks for the link to the article. I haven&#8217;t gotten Ceramics Monthly in several years, not having time to work with clay anymore, but this has me itching to get back into it.</p>
<p>The rough appearance could be a design feature (they *could* smooth it out somewhat) or it could be partially due to the choice of clay body. Terra Cotta (the second photo) is always rougher than a more refined clay like porcelain. It fires to a lower temperature and is porous enough that it will never hold water on its own. To get a cohesive pot the clay portion of their mix is not just &#8220;clay&#8221;, but a a combo of probably 5 ingredients, hence the RedArt. Most potters don&#8217;t make their own clay body. Another option is a natural clay (like something dug out of the local riverbed) that happens to fire to the appropriate temp. Many natural clays still need additives to come to temperature.</p>
<p>I would wonder about the weight of the pieces and the density of the clay. When you are making a pot, whether extruding it, hand building, or throwing it, you are actively compressing and smoothing the clay particles as you work. I don&#8217;t know all that much about objects created with 3D printing, but I imagine the printer almost gently setting layer upon layer, and that cohesion is due to the binding agents. I don&#8217;t doubt that it would stay together if they had the right clay composition, but it must be rather light weight. </p>
<p>If one was going for a really light weight 3D printed ceramic object they could try using paperclay. Paperclay is about 25% paper (usually toilet paper dissolved in water and blended) with 75% slurried clay body. It turns out lighter and stronger (at least when it is in a greenware state). You could dry that mix out and add the binding agent&#8230; Of course technology and clay dust aren&#8217;t happy companions, so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maltodextrin is not a &#039;nutritional supplement&#039;, it&#039;s a food additive. It&#039; an MSG product, and it can cause a reaction if you&#039;re sensitive to MSG or glutens.&quot;

This is incorrect. Both are white powders, but that is where their similarity ends.

I personally use Maltodextrin as a nutritional supplement. It is used to give you energy during and post workout, and is a healthier alternative to sugar for this purpose as well as in foods.

MSG is Monosodium glutamate. This is used to enhance the flavor of foods and is suspected to cause cancer.

Please run a google search before spreading &#039;facts&#039;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maltodextrin is not a &#8216;nutritional supplement&#8217;, it&#8217;s a food additive. It&#8217; an MSG product, and it can cause a reaction if you&#8217;re sensitive to MSG or glutens.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is incorrect. Both are white powders, but that is where their similarity ends.</p>
<p>I personally use Maltodextrin as a nutritional supplement. It is used to give you energy during and post workout, and is a healthier alternative to sugar for this purpose as well as in foods.</p>
<p>MSG is Monosodium glutamate. This is used to enhance the flavor of foods and is suspected to cause cancer.</p>
<p>Please run a google search before spreading &#8216;facts&#8217;. </p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-461161</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can the print heads handle multiple feed types? Say a &quot;white substance&quot; powder for the bulk of the object and and a &quot;odor proof&quot; sealant layer on the outside?  Also, are there explosives stable enough to 3D print with?  Merely speculating. Though that would certainly simplify making custom shaped-charges. I suppose you could print with virus particles too for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can the print heads handle multiple feed types? Say a &#8220;white substance&#8221; powder for the bulk of the object and and a &#8220;odor proof&#8221; sealant layer on the outside?  Also, are there explosives stable enough to 3D print with?  Merely speculating. Though that would certainly simplify making custom shaped-charges. I suppose you could print with virus particles too for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: JustDisGuy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-461193</link>
		<dc:creator>JustDisGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FTFA: Recipes are available on the magazine&#039;s Web site at http://tinyurl.com/d5lcpa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FTFA: Recipes are available on the magazine&#8217;s Web site at <a href="http://tinyurl.com/d5lcpa" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/d5lcpa</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maltodextrin is not a &quot;nutritional supplement&quot;, it&#039;s a food additive. It&#039; an MSG product, and it can cause a reaction if you&#039;re sensitive to MSG or glutens.&quot;

It must take effort to come off so inaccurately. It is BOTH a food additive and used for sports nutrition. MSG allergies/sensitivities are as accurate and real as WiFi allergies. Stop eating shitty fast food with incredibly high salt content and you&#039;ll stop getting headaches.

&quot;MSG is Monosodium glutamate. This is used to enhance the flavor of foods and is suspected to cause cancer.&quot;

Not by actual medical science it&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maltodextrin is not a &#8220;nutritional supplement&#8221;, it&#8217;s a food additive. It&#8217; an MSG product, and it can cause a reaction if you&#8217;re sensitive to MSG or glutens.&#8221;</p>
<p>It must take effort to come off so inaccurately. It is BOTH a food additive and used for sports nutrition. MSG allergies/sensitivities are as accurate and real as WiFi allergies. Stop eating shitty fast food with incredibly high salt content and you&#8217;ll stop getting headaches.</p>
<p>&#8220;MSG is Monosodium glutamate. This is used to enhance the flavor of foods and is suspected to cause cancer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not by actual medical science it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: GregLondon</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregLondon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, the objects they&#039;ve built seem a bit &quot;rough&quot;.

http://www.ceramicartsdaily.org/magazines/Ceramics%20Monthly/2009febprintedpotfeature.aspx

I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s the printer resolution or the material they&#039;re using.

At 10k to 20k for a printer, I won&#039;t be getting one just yet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, the objects they&#8217;ve built seem a bit &#8220;rough&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ceramicartsdaily.org/magazines/Ceramics%20Monthly/2009febprintedpotfeature.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ceramicartsdaily.org/magazines/Ceramics%20Monthly/2009febprintedpotfeature.aspx</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the printer resolution or the material they&#8217;re using.</p>
<p>At 10k to 20k for a printer, I won&#8217;t be getting one just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nevermind pill presses, just finely powder your E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nevermind pill presses, just finely powder your E.</p>
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		<title>By: Clemoh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-460701</link>
		<dc:creator>Clemoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is like the Gutenberg moment for 3-D printing!  Now, there is a reason for an Artist to want to have one.  I have fantasized about 3-d printers for a decade, but it is these types of secret recipes that make purchasing one for &#039;civilian&#039; purposes prohibitively expensive!  

Watch out Ebay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like the Gutenberg moment for 3-D printing!  Now, there is a reason for an Artist to want to have one.  I have fantasized about 3-d printers for a decade, but it is these types of secret recipes that make purchasing one for &#8216;civilian&#8217; purposes prohibitively expensive!  </p>
<p>Watch out Ebay!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great comments and excitement.  We are continuing to work on this project.   We have about 10 different clay-bodies that are printable plus other materials (including just plain sugar). We have thought about paper-clay bodies (just not enough time to try everything)!

The objects are porous after printing and quite light.  After firing, the objects can range from almost fully dense to quite porous.  Yes, this means the objects shrink in firing (maybe 20%).   We can infiltrate them with a variety of compounds from glasses to terra sigillata. The resulting objects take glaze nicely. 

Yes, they have a distinct texture that is characteristic of 3D printing.  It is part of the process.  Typical printer resolution is about 300 DPI and the layers are about 0.004&quot;.

Mark Ganter 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great comments and excitement.  We are continuing to work on this project.   We have about 10 different clay-bodies that are printable plus other materials (including just plain sugar). We have thought about paper-clay bodies (just not enough time to try everything)!</p>
<p>The objects are porous after printing and quite light.  After firing, the objects can range from almost fully dense to quite porous.  Yes, this means the objects shrink in firing (maybe 20%).   We can infiltrate them with a variety of compounds from glasses to terra sigillata. The resulting objects take glaze nicely. </p>
<p>Yes, they have a distinct texture that is characteristic of 3D printing.  It is part of the process.  Typical printer resolution is about 300 DPI and the layers are about 0.004&#8243;.</p>
<p>Mark Ganter </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Mastracci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Mastracci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would this work in a RepRap?  I&#039;d rather fight a self-replicating ceramic machines in the future than a metal one.
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/09/homemade-3d-printer.html#comment-843182</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated link for Ceramics Magazine article: http://ceramicartsdaily.org/methods-techniques/the-printed-pot/</description>
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		<title>By: eustace</title>
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		<dc:creator>eustace</dc:creator>
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		<description>RepRap uses thermoplastic rods - depending on how high up the chain of supply you can buy them, they&#039;re pretty cheap already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RepRap uses thermoplastic rods &#8211; depending on how high up the chain of supply you can buy them, they&#8217;re pretty cheap already.</p>
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		<title>By: J France</title>
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		<dc:creator>J France</dc:creator>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait for the day when I have a $300 3D printer sitting on my desk. The refills will still cost $99, I&#039;m sure, but it&#039;ll still be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the day when I have a $300 3D printer sitting on my desk. The refills will still cost $99, I&#8217;m sure, but it&#8217;ll still be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>Sounds biodegradable too.

Wonder if you could substitute some sort of dough instead of clay. Sugary, edible, everythings!</description>
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<p>Wonder if you could substitute some sort of dough instead of clay. Sugary, edible, everythings!</p>
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