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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462083</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lived with billboards, lived without them. Without is better.

Re: The Attention Economy; when RFID skimming and facial recognition get cheap and ubiquitous so the billboards start to recognize me and call out my name to flog some personalized spiel for say embarrassing skin conditions (with the medical file data sold to them by the business my government sold me to), will I be angry I didn&#039;t do something to prevent that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lived with billboards, lived without them. Without is better.</p>
<p>Re: The Attention Economy; when RFID skimming and facial recognition get cheap and ubiquitous so the billboards start to recognize me and call out my name to flog some personalized spiel for say embarrassing skin conditions (with the medical file data sold to them by the business my government sold me to), will I be angry I didn&#8217;t do something to prevent that? </p>
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		<title>By: idontlikewords</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462603</link>
		<dc:creator>idontlikewords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what the author is getting at by bringing up the difference between an advertising medium and &quot;isolated advertising&quot; is the same concept discussed (more recently) in Jonathan Mendez&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.optimizeandprophesize.com/jonathan_mendezs_blog/2009/03/search-becomes-the-display-operating-system.html&quot;&gt;Search Becomes the Display Operating System&lt;/a&gt; piece:
&lt;blockquote&gt;That mindset helps because search is more than a channel. Search is the way people use the web. People donâ€™t just fire up a browser without a goal in mind. We are all taking actions on the web based on our goal. Information we notice and content we experience along our goal path may change our goals, but it does not change the two basic natures of how we use the web â€“ recovery and discovery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therein lies the key functional distinction between display and search. Search (as an app on the platform) is weaved into the web and the way we use it. Display is not. Display is layered on top of the web. This is why despite twelve years and countless millions of investment it has never performed. Frankly, it was doomed from the get-go. It never was a web service but rather built to be its own parallel platform (ehem, â€œPlatform Aâ€). The problem inherent with that is the medium is itself a platform. Ads will never control this medium. Here the medium (users) should control the ads.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And as for the ownership of visual space and attention that seems to be at issue in this discussion, it is probably going to come down to whether or not you subscribe to the viewpoint that we as individuals do &quot;own&quot; our own attention (&amp; accordingly a part of the profits which are derived from the passive collection of web-surfing, click-tracking &amp; etc.) as proposed by groups such as the (now defunct?) &lt;a href=&quot;http://majestic.typepad.com/seth/2005/07/attentiontrusto.html&quot;&gt;Attention Trust&lt;/a&gt;, although admittedly, retroactively stretching that concept backwards in time to encompass non-interactive display mechanisms like billboards is more than a little wonky. Still, I really enjoyed the whole piece on a conceptual level.

It&#039;s also interesting to note that Gossage continuously refers to the advertising industry as &quot;The Sign Painters&quot; which is a fun reference for any World of Goo players out there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what the author is getting at by bringing up the difference between an advertising medium and &#8220;isolated advertising&#8221; is the same concept discussed (more recently) in Jonathan Mendez&#8217;s <a href="http://www.optimizeandprophesize.com/jonathan_mendezs_blog/2009/03/search-becomes-the-display-operating-system.html">Search Becomes the Display Operating System</a> piece:</p>
<blockquote><p>That mindset helps because search is more than a channel. Search is the way people use the web. People donâ€™t just fire up a browser without a goal in mind. We are all taking actions on the web based on our goal. Information we notice and content we experience along our goal path may change our goals, but it does not change the two basic natures of how we use the web â€“ recovery and discovery.</p>
<p>Therein lies the key functional distinction between display and search. Search (as an app on the platform) is weaved into the web and the way we use it. Display is not. Display is layered on top of the web. This is why despite twelve years and countless millions of investment it has never performed. Frankly, it was doomed from the get-go. It never was a web service but rather built to be its own parallel platform (ehem, â€œPlatform Aâ€). The problem inherent with that is the medium is itself a platform. Ads will never control this medium. Here the medium (users) should control the ads.</p></blockquote>
<p>And as for the ownership of visual space and attention that seems to be at issue in this discussion, it is probably going to come down to whether or not you subscribe to the viewpoint that we as individuals do &#8220;own&#8221; our own attention (&#038; accordingly a part of the profits which are derived from the passive collection of web-surfing, click-tracking &#038; etc.) as proposed by groups such as the (now defunct?) <a href="http://majestic.typepad.com/seth/2005/07/attentiontrusto.html">Attention Trust</a>, although admittedly, retroactively stretching that concept backwards in time to encompass non-interactive display mechanisms like billboards is more than a little wonky. Still, I really enjoyed the whole piece on a conceptual level.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to note that Gossage continuously refers to the advertising industry as &#8220;The Sign Painters&#8221; which is a fun reference for any World of Goo players out there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462096</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

LA without &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelyne&quot;&gt;Angelyne&lt;/a&gt; would be a poorer place. But there are other places where billboards would be a public nuisance. As with anything else, zoning can allow or disallow them where appropriate.

Darren,

People have to live in society. The doctrine of quiet enjoyment is a key component of real property rights. What you seem to be saying is that &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; definition of quiet enjoyment is more correct or important than everyone else&#039;s definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>LA without <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelyne">Angelyne</a> would be a poorer place. But there are other places where billboards would be a public nuisance. As with anything else, zoning can allow or disallow them where appropriate.</p>
<p>Darren,</p>
<p>People have to live in society. The doctrine of quiet enjoyment is a key component of real property rights. What you seem to be saying is that <i>your</i> definition of quiet enjoyment is more correct or important than everyone else&#8217;s definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewels Vern</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewels Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By what right do you claim to own everything you can see?</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462110</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by what right do you claim to not have to listen to earsplitting noise broadcast from every direction by my advertising loudspeakers? Buy some earplugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by what right do you claim to not have to listen to earsplitting noise broadcast from every direction by my advertising loudspeakers? Buy some earplugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462111</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from 1962
http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/udall/congrept/87th/620319.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from 1962<br />
<a href="http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/udall/congrept/87th/620319.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/udall/congrept/87th/620319.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: wolfiesma</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462370</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfiesma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t claim to speak for the entire anti-billboard community, but I wanted to offer a couple of points. For me, its not about hating ads. Ads can be clever, beautiful, informative, funny. Many billboards advertise non-profit organizations or serve to promote awareness of issues. In my neighborhood, there are billboards on autism, sexual abuse and obesity. So, it isn&#039;t just about the content or composition of the advertisement. For me, that is rarely the issue. What I do have an issue with is the structure itself. The towering metal monstrosities that hover over our city streets. Where I live a poorly placed billboard obscures the city skyline along a major thoroughfare into town. So, the property owner profits from the billboard, but everybody else loses what could be a spectacular view. If there is one thing that ranckles me more than any other, it is the idea that a property owner would do something, though well within written law, that goes against common consideration. Learning to live together in society ought to mean more than exerting one&#039;s every right. Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if we moved beyond the teenage bravado of look-what-I-can-do-and-you-can&#039;t-stop-me and began to develop a sense of shared sense of community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t claim to speak for the entire anti-billboard community, but I wanted to offer a couple of points. For me, its not about hating ads. Ads can be clever, beautiful, informative, funny. Many billboards advertise non-profit organizations or serve to promote awareness of issues. In my neighborhood, there are billboards on autism, sexual abuse and obesity. So, it isn&#8217;t just about the content or composition of the advertisement. For me, that is rarely the issue. What I do have an issue with is the structure itself. The towering metal monstrosities that hover over our city streets. Where I live a poorly placed billboard obscures the city skyline along a major thoroughfare into town. So, the property owner profits from the billboard, but everybody else loses what could be a spectacular view. If there is one thing that ranckles me more than any other, it is the idea that a property owner would do something, though well within written law, that goes against common consideration. Learning to live together in society ought to mean more than exerting one&#8217;s every right. Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if we moved beyond the teenage bravado of look-what-I-can-do-and-you-can&#8217;t-stop-me and began to develop a sense of shared sense of community?</p>
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		<title>By: marketect</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462131</link>
		<dc:creator>marketect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate billboards, but will fight to let people keep them on their property.  If you want to paint your house pink, don&#039;t live in a deed restricted community.  If you don&#039;t want to see billboards, live where they don&#039;t exist.  Don&#039;t use government to force your views.  

Why stop at billboards?  Why not ban all advertisement, everywhere?  They&#039;re in your television wasting your life 30 seconds at a time.  Why? They pay for the content.  Ads are a fact of life.  Vote with your money, boycott products on billboards.  It would work, but people just don&#039;t care enough.  

Won&#039;t you please think of the billboard manufacturers?  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate billboards, but will fight to let people keep them on their property.  If you want to paint your house pink, don&#8217;t live in a deed restricted community.  If you don&#8217;t want to see billboards, live where they don&#8217;t exist.  Don&#8217;t use government to force your views.  </p>
<p>Why stop at billboards?  Why not ban all advertisement, everywhere?  They&#8217;re in your television wasting your life 30 seconds at a time.  Why? They pay for the content.  Ads are a fact of life.  Vote with your money, boycott products on billboards.  It would work, but people just don&#8217;t care enough.  </p>
<p>Won&#8217;t you please think of the billboard manufacturers?  :(</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why not ban all advertisement, everywhere?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why not ban all advertisement, everywhere?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m in.</p>
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		<title>By: cubes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-464440</link>
		<dc:creator>cubes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Banksy (from the book &lt;em&gt;Cut It Out&lt;/em&gt;):
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It&#039;s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Banksy (from the book <em>Cut It Out</em>):</p>
<blockquote><p>
Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It&#8217;s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
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		<title>By: Inkstain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462143</link>
		<dc:creator>Inkstain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear lord.

This is the end result of smart people not having enough to occupy their minds. They come up with the most ridiculous arguments to support their gut instincts and whims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear lord.</p>
<p>This is the end result of smart people not having enough to occupy their minds. They come up with the most ridiculous arguments to support their gut instincts and whims.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Bolisarte</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462153</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Bolisarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like poster #12, I first read Gossage&#039;s article in Stay Free! Magazine. Then, as now, I thought that Gossage&#039;s argument is right on target, and I find it continually frustrating to find that the majority of people don&#039;t seem to understand. Since then, I&#039;ve gotten a masters in urban planning, and can now argue my position more strongly. 

What people believe about property rights and the the actual laws regarding land use are completely divergent. You may believe that you can do whatever the frack you want on your land, but its just not true. Cities have the ability to regulate signage, period. As noted above, lack of enforcement is the major problem. 

In planning law, a significant difference is outlined between &#039;on-site signage&#039; and &#039;billboards&#039;, chiefly, that signage is advertising your services on your building and billboards are advertising your services on someone else&#039;s land. Partly, this is an issue of local character. Billboards make every place look the same. 

Why should people have the inalienable right to profit on their land over your view? There are a million restrictions over blocking views- height restrictions, where you build on a lot, etc. There is no good argument in support of billboards, and Gossage&#039;s article is a watershed in the literature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like poster #12, I first read Gossage&#8217;s article in Stay Free! Magazine. Then, as now, I thought that Gossage&#8217;s argument is right on target, and I find it continually frustrating to find that the majority of people don&#8217;t seem to understand. Since then, I&#8217;ve gotten a masters in urban planning, and can now argue my position more strongly. </p>
<p>What people believe about property rights and the the actual laws regarding land use are completely divergent. You may believe that you can do whatever the frack you want on your land, but its just not true. Cities have the ability to regulate signage, period. As noted above, lack of enforcement is the major problem. </p>
<p>In planning law, a significant difference is outlined between &#8216;on-site signage&#8217; and &#8216;billboards&#8217;, chiefly, that signage is advertising your services on your building and billboards are advertising your services on someone else&#8217;s land. Partly, this is an issue of local character. Billboards make every place look the same. </p>
<p>Why should people have the inalienable right to profit on their land over your view? There are a million restrictions over blocking views- height restrictions, where you build on a lot, etc. There is no good argument in support of billboards, and Gossage&#8217;s article is a watershed in the literature.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462155</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Beautification_Act</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462157</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if I, as an advertiser, have purchased from your government (owners) the rights to your sensory inputs, any failure or refusal on your part to absorb these inputs is an actionable breach of contract.&quot;

Get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if I, as an advertiser, have purchased from your government (owners) the rights to your sensory inputs, any failure or refusal on your part to absorb these inputs is an actionable breach of contract.&#8221;</p>
<p>Get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Inkstain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462162</link>
		<dc:creator>Inkstain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not denying that the government has the right to regulate private property.  I&#039;m arguing that this specific attempt at regulation is a mistake, and the justification by the creation of a right to a uncluttered field of view is absurd.

&quot;There is no good argument in support of billboards,&quot;

I&#039;m waiting to hear a good one against them.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not denying that the government has the right to regulate private property.  I&#8217;m arguing that this specific attempt at regulation is a mistake, and the justification by the creation of a right to a uncluttered field of view is absurd.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no good argument in support of billboards,&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting to hear a good one against them.  </p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462167</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>got a right to sunshine?
http://books.google.ca/books?id=KprPdsSvGyoC&amp;pg=PA254&amp;lpg=PA254&amp;dq=sunshine+rights+japan&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=qmGEZ9qiLg&amp;sig=ALDrxzw4tt4-hjdzRsdxqQ8tq6s&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=wYjiSeGPOJKKtgODr-i-CQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got a right to sunshine?<br />
<a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=KprPdsSvGyoC&#038;pg=PA254&#038;lpg=PA254&#038;dq=sunshine+rights+japan&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=qmGEZ9qiLg&#038;sig=ALDrxzw4tt4-hjdzRsdxqQ8tq6s&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=wYjiSeGPOJKKtgODr-i-CQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.ca/books?id=KprPdsSvGyoC&#038;pg=PA254&#038;lpg=PA254&#038;dq=sunshine+rights+japan&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=qmGEZ9qiLg&#038;sig=ALDrxzw4tt4-hjdzRsdxqQ8tq6s&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=wYjiSeGPOJKKtgODr-i-CQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Super Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Super Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this different from opposing gay couples because you might see them together in public?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this different from opposing gay couples because you might see them together in public?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How is this different from opposing gay couples because you might see them together in public?&lt;/i&gt;

First of all, that&#039;s attempted threadjacking. Second, because they don&#039;t stand in front of your window for the rest of eternity, blocking your view and unless you live in Chernobyl, they&#039;re not sixty feet high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How is this different from opposing gay couples because you might see them together in public?</i></p>
<p>First of all, that&#8217;s attempted threadjacking. Second, because they don&#8217;t stand in front of your window for the rest of eternity, blocking your view and unless you live in Chernobyl, they&#8217;re not sixty feet high.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462174</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Attack of the Atomic Gay Couple!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Attack of the Atomic Gay Couple!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Inkstain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462176</link>
		<dc:creator>Inkstain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguing that billboards should be regulated to prevent them from permanently blocking a resident&#039;s window view is a much, much more reasonable argument than trying to eliminate them because they violate a right to a clear field of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguing that billboards should be regulated to prevent them from permanently blocking a resident&#8217;s window view is a much, much more reasonable argument than trying to eliminate them because they violate a right to a clear field of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462182</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good comment, Bruno Bolisarte. 

I&#039;d be OK with billboards if they paid for the roads. It&#039;s the public-owned roads that are providing an audience, not the private land owner.

I went to a festival recently that had zero advertising. It was so refreshing - like my eyes and mind had taken a four day nap. Which is especially surprising given the alcohol and late nights. It just felt really good not having my attention being grabbed every second.

I&#039;d love to see an end to this garish shit. Banning it would be a great move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good comment, Bruno Bolisarte. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be OK with billboards if they paid for the roads. It&#8217;s the public-owned roads that are providing an audience, not the private land owner.</p>
<p>I went to a festival recently that had zero advertising. It was so refreshing &#8211; like my eyes and mind had taken a four day nap. Which is especially surprising given the alcohol and late nights. It just felt really good not having my attention being grabbed every second.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see an end to this garish shit. Banning it would be a great move.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462185</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: would regulation against billboards simply make advertisers more cunning about how they market their products outside, without necessarily being easier on the eye?

Places where rich, bored commuters are bottlenecked on their way home are a marketing goldmine, and I don&#039;t see the ad men backing off that space simply because they can&#039;t use a billboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: would regulation against billboards simply make advertisers more cunning about how they market their products outside, without necessarily being easier on the eye?</p>
<p>Places where rich, bored commuters are bottlenecked on their way home are a marketing goldmine, and I don&#8217;t see the ad men backing off that space simply because they can&#8217;t use a billboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462441</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit, I like open space.  Sky, ocean, wetland.  It&#039;s one of the things that the west side of LA used to have a lot of.  Now you drive down [name a street] and see dozens of overlapping buzzing flickering hyper images selling me things that I do not need/want.  And the building wrappers!  But that&#039;s just my opinion.  It&#039;s depressing, like living inside Blade Runner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit, I like open space.  Sky, ocean, wetland.  It&#8217;s one of the things that the west side of LA used to have a lot of.  Now you drive down [name a street] and see dozens of overlapping buzzing flickering hyper images selling me things that I do not need/want.  And the building wrappers!  But that&#8217;s just my opinion.  It&#8217;s depressing, like living inside Blade Runner.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462188</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ANTINOUS&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m in.&lt;/em&gt;

Great. Then I hope you renounce your support of protests, because they are just another form of advertisement. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ANTINOUS<em>I&#8217;m in.</em></p>
<p>Great. Then I hope you renounce your support of protests, because they are just another form of advertisement. </p>
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		<title>By: minTphresh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462447</link>
		<dc:creator>minTphresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wolfiesma, how dare you bring common sense into this debate!  what were u thinkin?  jeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wolfiesma, how dare you bring common sense into this debate!  what were u thinkin?  jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: brownhb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462963</link>
		<dc:creator>brownhb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The people who truly deface our neighbourhoods are the companies that scrawl giant slogans across buildings and buses trying to make us feel inadequate unless we buy their stuff. They expect to be able to shout their message in your face from every available surface but you&#039;re never allowed to answer back. Well, they started the fight and the wall is the weapon of choice to hit them back.&quot; - banksy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people who truly deface our neighbourhoods are the companies that scrawl giant slogans across buildings and buses trying to make us feel inadequate unless we buy their stuff. They expect to be able to shout their message in your face from every available surface but you&#8217;re never allowed to answer back. Well, they started the fight and the wall is the weapon of choice to hit them back.&#8221; &#8211; banksy</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462198</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Then I hope you renounce your support of protests, because they are just another form of advertisement.&lt;/i&gt;

Codswallop. Advertising exists to sell you things that you don&#039;t need. Protests exist to get you stuff that you do need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Then I hope you renounce your support of protests, because they are just another form of advertisement.</i></p>
<p>Codswallop. Advertising exists to sell you things that you don&#8217;t need. Protests exist to get you stuff that you do need.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462201</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is to decide what is &quot;needed&quot;? Also, many protesters seem to think we &quot;need&quot; bans on gay marriage and/or abortions. Not all protesters are advertising political viewpoints you or I may share.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is to decide what is &#8220;needed&#8221;? Also, many protesters seem to think we &#8220;need&#8221; bans on gay marriage and/or abortions. Not all protesters are advertising political viewpoints you or I may share.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462204</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cbc.ca/ageofpersuasion/</description>
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		<title>By: Inkstain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/12/billboards-versus-th.html#comment-462205</link>
		<dc:creator>Inkstain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Advertising exists to sell you things that you don&#039;t need.&quot;

Equally codswollop.  Many necessary services are advertised and I&#039;m glad for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Advertising exists to sell you things that you don&#8217;t need.&#8221;</p>
<p>Equally codswollop.  Many necessary services are advertised and I&#8217;m glad for them.</p>
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