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		<title>By: Crispinus211</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473394</link>
		<dc:creator>Crispinus211</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?!</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473405</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you never had the joy of discovery as a child of things actually WORKING? It turns into quiet satisfaction as an adult - no where near as good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you never had the joy of discovery as a child of things actually WORKING? It turns into quiet satisfaction as an adult &#8211; no where near as good.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473432</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strictly speaking, she doesn&#039;t demonstrate how to do it, merely that she has done it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strictly speaking, she doesn&#8217;t demonstrate how to do it, merely that she has done it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473690</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â™¥â™¥â™¥
Limor completely rocks my world.
I have a buddy coming round in few moments to assist with transistor matching so I can start my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ladyada.net/make/x0xb0x/&quot;&gt;x0xb0x&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â™¥â™¥â™¥<br />
Limor completely rocks my world.<br />
I have a buddy coming round in few moments to assist with transistor matching so I can start my <a href="http://www.ladyada.net/make/x0xb0x/">x0xb0x</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473698</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,

I had to upgrade you to â™¥s because you invoked unintentional html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,</p>
<p>I had to upgrade you to â™¥s because you invoked unintentional html.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473451</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kimmo - the schematic is on the site if you follow the link to adafruit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kimmo &#8211; the schematic is on the site if you follow the link to adafruit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Drew from Zhrodague</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473969</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew from Zhrodague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray Limor! Nice to see your fruits on BB every so often.

We&#039;ve had mention of some of your neat projects at our Hackerspace Pittsburgh,  http://www.hackpittsburgh.org - Almost time for POV LED fun with Ardionos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray Limor! Nice to see your fruits on BB every so often.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had mention of some of your neat projects at our Hackerspace Pittsburgh,  <a href="http://www.hackpittsburgh.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.hackpittsburgh.org</a> &#8211; Almost time for POV LED fun with Ardionos!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473987</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limor is completely hot. 

@Takuan - You should check out her site, she has some very easy to assemble kits (just basic soldering) that do cool things, like the tv b gone. Satisfying to assemble, and fun to impress friends with. An her arduino kit is, i think, the best one out there. 

I&#039;m using her wave shield in a project now, and read about the wave bubble for additional coolness outside my reach.

http://www.ladyada.net/make/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limor is completely hot. </p>
<p>@Takuan &#8211; You should check out her site, she has some very easy to assemble kits (just basic soldering) that do cool things, like the tv b gone. Satisfying to assemble, and fun to impress friends with. An her arduino kit is, i think, the best one out there. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m using her wave shield in a project now, and read about the wave bubble for additional coolness outside my reach.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ladyada.net/make/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ladyada.net/make/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Crispinus211</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473992</link>
		<dc:creator>Crispinus211</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1,3 Taukuan:

I&#039;m not saying What?! to you, but to the post itself.  I don&#039;t understand a word of it!  MY childhood discoveries were not of this order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1,3 Taukuan:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying What?! to you, but to the post itself.  I don&#8217;t understand a word of it!  MY childhood discoveries were not of this order.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-474760</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what&#039;s the difference between a latching relay and a regular one? So long as it&#039;s at least DPDT (AFAIK they all are) then you can make any relay a latching one...

PS: For the first time ever I&#039;ve failed the captcha... Both words were unintelligible, so I gave my best guess for each. I was told I failed the turing test and was booted back to the original posting, my text was cleared from the textbox. Someone might want to look into this at some point... Were I not a random useless anonymous poster my suggestions might carry more weight, but really, I&#039;d have hoped it would at least preserve my entry instead of eating my text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what&#8217;s the difference between a latching relay and a regular one? So long as it&#8217;s at least DPDT (AFAIK they all are) then you can make any relay a latching one&#8230;</p>
<p>PS: For the first time ever I&#8217;ve failed the captcha&#8230; Both words were unintelligible, so I gave my best guess for each. I was told I failed the turing test and was booted back to the original posting, my text was cleared from the textbox. Someone might want to look into this at some point&#8230; Were I not a random useless anonymous poster my suggestions might carry more weight, but really, I&#8217;d have hoped it would at least preserve my entry instead of eating my text.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-474001</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are you waiting for? Get down to the local electronics shop and get a kit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are you waiting for? Get down to the local electronics shop and get a kit!</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-474003</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>start with something simple and give it to a kid after you are ready to move up.
http://www.escience.ca/hobby/RENDER/0001/C9/3056/12102.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>start with something simple and give it to a kid after you are ready to move up.<br />
<a href="http://www.escience.ca/hobby/RENDER/0001/C9/3056/12102.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.escience.ca/hobby/RENDER/0001/C9/3056/12102.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-474773</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blondy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473497</link>
		<dc:creator>Blondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget to put a diode across the windings of the relay to prevent the back emf from blowing out the solid state components when the relay de-energizes.

Love,
Blondy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to put a diode across the windings of the relay to prevent the back emf from blowing out the solid state components when the relay de-energizes.</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Blondy</p>
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		<title>By: sisyphus321</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-476097</link>
		<dc:creator>sisyphus321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XBee works on 2.4 GHz. I assume this is the 2.4 GHz ISM band which is also used by WiFi. Any ideas on how/if XBee plays nicely with WiFi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XBee works on 2.4 GHz. I assume this is the 2.4 GHz ISM band which is also used by WiFi. Any ideas on how/if XBee plays nicely with WiFi?</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473284</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this stuff! Even if I never get around to using that particular thing, I enjoy thinking about what some tinkerer somewhere is developing. Makes we wish I were twelve again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this stuff! Even if I never get around to using that particular thing, I enjoy thinking about what some tinkerer somewhere is developing. Makes we wish I were twelve again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473544</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 actually, i -do- show how to do it, but BB did not link to the original blog post tutorial which is here:
http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2009/04/21/using-xbees-to-control-relays/

#5 there is a diode across the relay, its visible in the preview screenshot, wrapped around on the righthand side</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 actually, i -do- show how to do it, but BB did not link to the original blog post tutorial which is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2009/04/21/using-xbees-to-control-relays/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2009/04/21/using-xbees-to-control-relays/</a></p>
<p>#5 there is a diode across the relay, its visible in the preview screenshot, wrapped around on the righthand side</p>
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		<title>By: allenrl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473837</link>
		<dc:creator>allenrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find solid state relays for cheap these days... If you can&#039;t find one that&#039;s &quot;latching&quot;, you can always use a flip-flop to make it latch. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find solid state relays for cheap these days&#8230; If you can&#8217;t find one that&#8217;s &#8220;latching&#8221;, you can always use a flip-flop to make it latch. </p>
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		<title>By: InsertFingerHere</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/04/23/wireless-relay-contr.html#comment-473588</link>
		<dc:creator>InsertFingerHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I am _SO_ glad they showed the cat at the end.  I thought a certain substance was adversely affecting my perception. 

Second, first time I&#039;ve heard of a latching relay, and I&#039;m in love.  Perfect device for battery operated do-dads.  And best of all, they are immune to power loss.  It&#039;s like a 1-bit flash memory cell, only it can connect to line voltage.

Third, some relays have the diode built-in across the coil.  Might save room in the final project.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I am _SO_ glad they showed the cat at the end.  I thought a certain substance was adversely affecting my perception. </p>
<p>Second, first time I&#8217;ve heard of a latching relay, and I&#8217;m in love.  Perfect device for battery operated do-dads.  And best of all, they are immune to power loss.  It&#8217;s like a 1-bit flash memory cell, only it can connect to line voltage.</p>
<p>Third, some relays have the diode built-in across the coil.  Might save room in the final project.</p>
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