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	<title>Comments on: GOOD: Lake Mead is drying&#160;up</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-486146</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that most of the US is arid and that the green parts are heavily settled, where precisely do you plan to do this farming? Mow down forests?</description>
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		<title>By: artbot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485123</link>
		<dc:creator>artbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t somebody pleeeeease think of the house-boaters?!!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485134</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first glance, the headline on this post makes it appear that Mark is happy about the lake drying up... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first glance, the headline on this post makes it appear that Mark is happy about the lake drying up&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485138</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let the name fool you, man. That lake is actually full of WATER. Stupid false advertising.</description>
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		<title>By: nosehat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485144</link>
		<dc:creator>nosehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I would have thought that was BAD, but I&#039;ll try to see it your way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I would have thought that was BAD, but I&#8217;ll try to see it your way.</p>
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		<title>By: Water Habitat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-486173</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Habitat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I categorically reject your assertion that most of the US is arid and that green parts are heavily settled.  Feel fee to attach your Google map as a scientific basis for your justification.  

By saying this, are you asserting this is a continued justification for growing corps in a Californian desert?   If so, letâ€™s try a different desert for a while. :)

By saying this, are you also implying this is a continued justification for the status quo in growing lawns, maintaining golf courses?

By saying this, are you implying that California (and Nevada) should some day be entitled to a â€œWater Bail Outâ€ from other states after it uses up its limited water resources?  Weâ€™ll pass on that, thanks, Sacramento has already gotten its Federal bail out $$ to enable it to continue its deficit State spending. 

Just â™¥â™¥ this time. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I categorically reject your assertion that most of the US is arid and that green parts are heavily settled.  Feel fee to attach your Google map as a scientific basis for your justification.  </p>
<p>By saying this, are you asserting this is a continued justification for growing corps in a Californian desert?   If so, letâ€™s try a different desert for a while. :)</p>
<p>By saying this, are you also implying this is a continued justification for the status quo in growing lawns, maintaining golf courses?</p>
<p>By saying this, are you implying that California (and Nevada) should some day be entitled to a â€œWater Bail Outâ€ from other states after it uses up its limited water resources?  Weâ€™ll pass on that, thanks, Sacramento has already gotten its Federal bail out $$ to enable it to continue its deficit State spending. </p>
<p>Just â™¥â™¥ this time. </p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485165</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevada pop in 1920, 77,000. Today, 2.7 mil. Not counting Steve Wynn&#039;s various fountains. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevada pop in 1920, 77,000. Today, 2.7 mil. Not counting Steve Wynn&#8217;s various fountains. </p>
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		<title>By: pewma</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485421</link>
		<dc:creator>pewma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why they just haven&#039;t created a new form of golf where the whole course is a sand trap. I mean, cheap maintenance, no use of scarce resources and a much more challenging game!

Bring it on Tiger!


Besides my sarcasm. I never understood why people choose to live in inhospitable locations and then bitch about their sircumstances. I live close to the mississippi and without fail, every time it floods, the people living in the flood plain complain and want federal funds every time it floods. Don&#039;t live in a FLOOD PLAIN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why they just haven&#8217;t created a new form of golf where the whole course is a sand trap. I mean, cheap maintenance, no use of scarce resources and a much more challenging game!</p>
<p>Bring it on Tiger!</p>
<p>Besides my sarcasm. I never understood why people choose to live in inhospitable locations and then bitch about their sircumstances. I live close to the mississippi and without fail, every time it floods, the people living in the flood plain complain and want federal funds every time it floods. Don&#8217;t live in a FLOOD PLAIN!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485168</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to Australia&#039;s problems Colorado!
We&#039;ve struggled with this issue for years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Australia&#8217;s problems Colorado!<br />
We&#8217;ve struggled with this issue for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaudeamus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485177</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaudeamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that we hear so much out here about Lake Mead and the drought, and it means nothing.  I&#039;m going to say right now that a HUGE part of the problem is the way water is managed here.  I live in an apartment complex that used to have a pond out front.  Only now it&#039;s just got rocks in it.  Same where my parents live, in their housing community.  We have an entire nature preserve with a garden dedicated to showing the residents here how plants and animals live in the desert, and how we can too.

It&#039;s crazy to have a green lawn.  I live in LAS VEGAS.  I shouldn&#039;t be suffering from allergies to things that shouldn&#039;t be out here.  I moved out here and my allergies calmed down, only to reignite when more and more people moved here and started bringing &quot;back east&quot; with them.  The golfers, I don&#039;t know.  I like golf okay but surely they could use astroturf.  I mean they SELL it here.

What galls me the most is the conspicuous usage of water at the casinos.  I don&#039;t give a fizzle if this is a tourist town, those tourists are going back home to where they get more rain a year and where they&#039;re possibly not having a drought.  Why can the Bellagio use millions of gallons of water for their dancing waters when a high school can&#039;t throw a car wash because we have to conserve?  How come some of the casinos *close their pools* at night, rendering it effectively wasted for half the day?  (And while this isn&#039;t water related it&#039;s along the same lines: why are the casinos using aluminum cans that they simply refuse to recycle?)

I&#039;m not going to pretend I want to go live in nature or something.  I quite enjoy my lush-ish and decadent-esque life out here where the tourists pay for most everything.  At the same time, it seems like people would realize that money can flow and flow and flow but if the water stops then we&#039;re screwed because we can&#039;t drink money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that we hear so much out here about Lake Mead and the drought, and it means nothing.  I&#8217;m going to say right now that a HUGE part of the problem is the way water is managed here.  I live in an apartment complex that used to have a pond out front.  Only now it&#8217;s just got rocks in it.  Same where my parents live, in their housing community.  We have an entire nature preserve with a garden dedicated to showing the residents here how plants and animals live in the desert, and how we can too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy to have a green lawn.  I live in LAS VEGAS.  I shouldn&#8217;t be suffering from allergies to things that shouldn&#8217;t be out here.  I moved out here and my allergies calmed down, only to reignite when more and more people moved here and started bringing &#8220;back east&#8221; with them.  The golfers, I don&#8217;t know.  I like golf okay but surely they could use astroturf.  I mean they SELL it here.</p>
<p>What galls me the most is the conspicuous usage of water at the casinos.  I don&#8217;t give a fizzle if this is a tourist town, those tourists are going back home to where they get more rain a year and where they&#8217;re possibly not having a drought.  Why can the Bellagio use millions of gallons of water for their dancing waters when a high school can&#8217;t throw a car wash because we have to conserve?  How come some of the casinos *close their pools* at night, rendering it effectively wasted for half the day?  (And while this isn&#8217;t water related it&#8217;s along the same lines: why are the casinos using aluminum cans that they simply refuse to recycle?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to pretend I want to go live in nature or something.  I quite enjoy my lush-ish and decadent-esque life out here where the tourists pay for most everything.  At the same time, it seems like people would realize that money can flow and flow and flow but if the water stops then we&#8217;re screwed because we can&#8217;t drink money.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485179</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But several years of kickass Rocky Mtn snowfall would help.</description>
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		<title>By: DWittSF</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485181</link>
		<dc:creator>DWittSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid of how this will impact Golfer&#039;s Rights--y&#039;know, to enjoy a lush green 18-hole championship course...right in the middle of a freakin&#039; desert!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid of how this will impact Golfer&#8217;s Rights&#8211;y&#8217;know, to enjoy a lush green 18-hole championship course&#8230;right in the middle of a freakin&#8217; desert!</p>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485194</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good. People will eventually be forced to stop living in a desert while acting as though they live in a temperate zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good. People will eventually be forced to stop living in a desert while acting as though they live in a temperate zone.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaudeamus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485966</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaudeamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HDN thanks for the info.  Clearly you know way more than I do about this.  I&#039;ve been living out here for a while and watching the way that water gets used and it&#039;s crazy.  Perhaps it&#039;s a bit hypocritical as my parents have a pool but they use a solar shield and xeriscape on their property.  Then there are some neighbors with a lush, green lawn who water it bunches, even though we have plenty of Astroturf dealers here and seriously, the desert has never really been known (naturally) for lush, green lawns.

I&#039;ve been to Lake Mead once, in the dark, and we never got out of the car.  I&#039;ve heard something about the fish and birth control, but I&#039;ve heard more about bodies.  If the lake dried up, wouldn&#039;t that be something to find piles of bodies on the bed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HDN thanks for the info.  Clearly you know way more than I do about this.  I&#8217;ve been living out here for a while and watching the way that water gets used and it&#8217;s crazy.  Perhaps it&#8217;s a bit hypocritical as my parents have a pool but they use a solar shield and xeriscape on their property.  Then there are some neighbors with a lush, green lawn who water it bunches, even though we have plenty of Astroturf dealers here and seriously, the desert has never really been known (naturally) for lush, green lawns.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to Lake Mead once, in the dark, and we never got out of the car.  I&#8217;ve heard something about the fish and birth control, but I&#8217;ve heard more about bodies.  If the lake dried up, wouldn&#8217;t that be something to find piles of bodies on the bed?</p>
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		<title>By: liamo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485465</link>
		<dc:creator>liamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a simple agricultural lesson: Don&#039;t build a rice farming infrastructure in an area which doesn&#039;t have the rainfall to support it.

Rice is one of the worst crops in the world to grow when it comes to water required per kg of food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a simple agricultural lesson: Don&#8217;t build a rice farming infrastructure in an area which doesn&#8217;t have the rainfall to support it.</p>
<p>Rice is one of the worst crops in the world to grow when it comes to water required per kg of food.</p>
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		<title>By: JudgeDredd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485210</link>
		<dc:creator>JudgeDredd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope this does not lead to a fresh batch of federal laws telling people how to use water.  I cannot buy a shower head with decent pressure?  Why?  I live minutes away from one of the largest sources of fresh water on the planet.  Oh, it&#039;s because a bunch of morons decided to live in a desert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope this does not lead to a fresh batch of federal laws telling people how to use water.  I cannot buy a shower head with decent pressure?  Why?  I live minutes away from one of the largest sources of fresh water on the planet.  Oh, it&#8217;s because a bunch of morons decided to live in a desert.</p>
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		<title>By: Water Habitat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485979</link>
		<dc:creator>Water Habitat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can drink your dust and eat your Toyotas, California and Nevada.You will not get a drop from the Great Lakes Basin. 

Go ahead.  Continue to water your lawns, golf courses, and rice fields.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can drink your dust and eat your Toyotas, California and Nevada.You will not get a drop from the Great Lakes Basin. </p>
<p>Go ahead.  Continue to water your lawns, golf courses, and rice fields.  </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485214</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You poor, poor man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You poor, poor man.</p>
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		<title>By: breals</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485217</link>
		<dc:creator>breals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one benefit of the lake dropping in volumne is that it does make once very deep scuba diving sites more accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one benefit of the lake dropping in volumne is that it does make once very deep scuba diving sites more accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaudeamus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485219</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaudeamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So because I live in Las Vegas you can&#039;t get decent water pressure?  I&#039;m sorry.  Let&#039;s see if I can work up a tear or failing that, maybe go turn on my high-pressure shower-head and wet my face a little in sympathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So because I live in Las Vegas you can&#8217;t get decent water pressure?  I&#8217;m sorry.  Let&#8217;s see if I can work up a tear or failing that, maybe go turn on my high-pressure shower-head and wet my face a little in sympathy.</p>
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		<title>By: kaosmonkey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485999</link>
		<dc:creator>kaosmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Mulroy, general manager of the Southern Nevada Water Authority, said, â€œWeâ€™ve taken water from the West now for a hundred years, maybe itâ€™s time to start taking water from the East, rather than from the West.â€

??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Mulroy, general manager of the Southern Nevada Water Authority, said, â€œWeâ€™ve taken water from the West now for a hundred years, maybe itâ€™s time to start taking water from the East, rather than from the West.â€</p>
<p>??????</p>
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		<title>By: WalterBillington</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485488</link>
		<dc:creator>WalterBillington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooo Union Carbide - let&#039;s not forget the leakage of &quot;42 tons of toxic methyl isocyanate gas&quot;, killing 26,000+ people.  In Bhopal, India. (where? oh yeh.)  Did they ever need Erin Brokavich.

I think they should be kept far AWAY from the water we share.

With luck, the Blowjobbio will be the last source of running water in the state.  Then it too would run out - now that would be a ghost town!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo Union Carbide &#8211; let&#8217;s not forget the leakage of &#8220;42 tons of toxic methyl isocyanate gas&#8221;, killing 26,000+ people.  In Bhopal, India. (where? oh yeh.)  Did they ever need Erin Brokavich.</p>
<p>I think they should be kept far AWAY from the water we share.</p>
<p>With luck, the Blowjobbio will be the last source of running water in the state.  Then it too would run out &#8211; now that would be a ghost town!</p>
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		<title>By: fnc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485234</link>
		<dc:creator>fnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Another speculative proposal lies beyond the shores of California, where thereâ€™s an ocean of water available for desalinization.&quot;

Or you could forego using all that energy and let the hydrological cycle bring the clean water to you by storing rainwater.

I honestly don&#039;t know if rainwater catchment is truly practical, but it sounds like a Very Good Idea in an area that sees enough rain to catch a sizable amount of water.  I know those off the grid earthship homes catch all the water they use, and they&#039;re built in the deserts.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/17/gsif.rainwater.solutions/index.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another speculative proposal lies beyond the shores of California, where thereâ€™s an ocean of water available for desalinization.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or you could forego using all that energy and let the hydrological cycle bring the clean water to you by storing rainwater.</p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t know if rainwater catchment is truly practical, but it sounds like a Very Good Idea in an area that sees enough rain to catch a sizable amount of water.  I know those off the grid earthship homes catch all the water they use, and they&#8217;re built in the deserts.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/17/gsif.rainwater.solutions/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/17/gsif.rainwater.solutions/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: WalterBillington</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and just linking things - back to the Train Set in a Briefcase http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/06/train-set-in-a-brief.html - 

I note the set with the lake in the background is the &quot;German&quot; set:
#405A Bavarian Briefcase Layout with Contoller and Train
Dimensions: 14&quot; x 19&quot;

They have another set, the &quot;American&quot; set:
#0510 American Layout

The American set has no water apparent in its image.  Those funny europeans!  But it is much bigger, and I suspect you have to fuel the engines with real diesel fuel rather than plugging it in.

http://www.marklin.com/scales/z/zlayouts.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and just linking things &#8211; back to the Train Set in a Briefcase <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/06/train-set-in-a-brief.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/06/train-set-in-a-brief.html</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>I note the set with the lake in the background is the &#8220;German&#8221; set:<br />
#405A Bavarian Briefcase Layout with Contoller and Train<br />
Dimensions: 14&#8243; x 19&#8243;</p>
<p>They have another set, the &#8220;American&#8221; set:<br />
#0510 American Layout</p>
<p>The American set has no water apparent in its image.  Those funny europeans!  But it is much bigger, and I suspect you have to fuel the engines with real diesel fuel rather than plugging it in.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marklin.com/scales/z/zlayouts.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.marklin.com/scales/z/zlayouts.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jjasper</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saving the commons from a lack of tragedy, one deregulation at a time!</description>
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		<title>By: Roku</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485500</link>
		<dc:creator>Roku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read &quot;Cadillac Desert&quot; by Marc Reisner. It&#039;s a fascinating history of water in the West.

Nevada actually takes very little water from the Colorado: Colorado and California each take over 10 times more!  Even Wyoming gets three times as much.

&lt;b&gt;California is probably the least water-sustainable state.&lt;/b&gt; Neither Los Angeles, nor most California agriculture, would exist at all if it weren&#039;t for the California Aqueduct, &lt;i&gt;containing at least 11 stations that pump water uphill (over a 2000 foot mountain range, in the case of the LA basin.)&lt;/i&gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Aqueduct
This is in addition to California&#039;s unsustainable Colorado River allotment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read &#8220;Cadillac Desert&#8221; by Marc Reisner. It&#8217;s a fascinating history of water in the West.</p>
<p>Nevada actually takes very little water from the Colorado: Colorado and California each take over 10 times more!  Even Wyoming gets three times as much.</p>
<p><b>California is probably the least water-sustainable state.</b> Neither Los Angeles, nor most California agriculture, would exist at all if it weren&#8217;t for the California Aqueduct, <i>containing at least 11 stations that pump water uphill (over a 2000 foot mountain range, in the case of the LA basin.)</i><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Aqueduct" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Aqueduct</a><br />
This is in addition to California&#8217;s unsustainable Colorado River allotment.</p>
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		<title>By: EyeSpy Guy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/06/good-lake-mead-is-dr.html#comment-485248</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grass is overrated on golf courses. For an interesting counterpoint feel free to google for images of the Coober Pedy golf course, in Queensland Australia.

http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=coober+pedy+golf+course&amp;btnG=Search+Images&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grass is overrated on golf courses. For an interesting counterpoint feel free to google for images of the Coober Pedy golf course, in Queensland Australia.</p>
<p><a href="http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&#038;um=1&#038;sa=1&#038;q=coober+pedy+golf+course&#038;btnG=Search+Images&#038;aq=f&#038;oq=" rel="nofollow">http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&#038;um=1&#038;sa=1&#038;q=coober+pedy+golf+course&#038;btnG=Search+Images&#038;aq=f&#038;oq=</a></p>
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		<title>By: nosehat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring on the cheap desalinization!   Seriously, this is the next technological breakthrough waiting to happen.</description>
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		<title>By: amuderick</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few quick searches on the net and you&#039;ll find out how to modify your showerhead to return those great high-pressure showers to your life.  I did and I love it...and no, I don&#039;t live in the desert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few quick searches on the net and you&#8217;ll find out how to modify your showerhead to return those great high-pressure showers to your life.  I did and I love it&#8230;and no, I don&#8217;t live in the desert.</p>
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		<title>By: EyeSpy Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>EyeSpy Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 FNC,

Effectively catching rainwater in low rainfall areas is contingent on the amount of tankage built. For example, certain parts of Western Australia only get an average of a few centimeters of rain a year, but it only rains every three years  or so. The cattle stations out that way have huge dams and millions of liters of underground tankage. If it doesn&#039;t rain often, you have to store every drop.

Citizens in many of the major cities of Australia have been installing rain water tanks at a pretty brisk rate, because water restrictions make watering the garden illegal. You can get quite a lot of water of the roof of a suburban home, and it goes a very long way if you use buried permeable hose to irrigate, rather than surface watering. With effective use of gray water and a a clever selection of plants in the garden a suburban home can just about reduce water consumption to nil. Industry is another story.

Most regions of Australia have been beset by drought for years*, and this is not going to change any time soon. Here we are seeing tight water restrictions on regional communities with politicians unwilling to make tough choices in regard to cities. This (IMNSHO) is due to the expense and unpopularity of drastic reform of water use. To do it right will cost money and lose votes.

When the rain stops falling and water becomes a (very) limited resource then conservation becomes immediately important. Every drop saved now will be for ten years down the track. It is too late after the dams are dry and the aquifers empty. At that point you are fucked, mate. Agriculture is impossible, farms die and crops become very expensive.

It is possible to grow crops with best practices that use a fraction of the current irrigation. None the less, I bet no changes will be made until it is far too late.

The price of fruit and veg has gone up by more than double in the past two or three years here in Oz. This is what you can look forward to in the USA.




*Notable exceptions would be all the areas that flooded this year. Worst floods in living memory in many regions of Queensland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 FNC,</p>
<p>Effectively catching rainwater in low rainfall areas is contingent on the amount of tankage built. For example, certain parts of Western Australia only get an average of a few centimeters of rain a year, but it only rains every three years  or so. The cattle stations out that way have huge dams and millions of liters of underground tankage. If it doesn&#8217;t rain often, you have to store every drop.</p>
<p>Citizens in many of the major cities of Australia have been installing rain water tanks at a pretty brisk rate, because water restrictions make watering the garden illegal. You can get quite a lot of water of the roof of a suburban home, and it goes a very long way if you use buried permeable hose to irrigate, rather than surface watering. With effective use of gray water and a a clever selection of plants in the garden a suburban home can just about reduce water consumption to nil. Industry is another story.</p>
<p>Most regions of Australia have been beset by drought for years*, and this is not going to change any time soon. Here we are seeing tight water restrictions on regional communities with politicians unwilling to make tough choices in regard to cities. This (IMNSHO) is due to the expense and unpopularity of drastic reform of water use. To do it right will cost money and lose votes.</p>
<p>When the rain stops falling and water becomes a (very) limited resource then conservation becomes immediately important. Every drop saved now will be for ten years down the track. It is too late after the dams are dry and the aquifers empty. At that point you are fucked, mate. Agriculture is impossible, farms die and crops become very expensive.</p>
<p>It is possible to grow crops with best practices that use a fraction of the current irrigation. None the less, I bet no changes will be made until it is far too late.</p>
<p>The price of fruit and veg has gone up by more than double in the past two or three years here in Oz. This is what you can look forward to in the USA.</p>
<p>*Notable exceptions would be all the areas that flooded this year. Worst floods in living memory in many regions of Queensland.</p>
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