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	<title>Comments on: LA cop union buys stake in newspaper, demands critical writers be&#160;fired</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Hale</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501254</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@51 Takuan - Give us some new labels plz. Make mine a good one -thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@51 Takuan &#8211; Give us some new labels plz. Make mine a good one -thx</p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500487</link>
		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;If Murdock bought a paper, would anyone be outraged that the editorial page went conservative?&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

...are you joking?

I can with 100% conviction that the answer to that question is yes, people would be pissed if Murdock whacked a paper&#039;s editorial staff for being too liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If Murdock bought a paper, would anyone be outraged that the editorial page went conservative?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;are you joking?</p>
<p>I can with 100% conviction that the answer to that question is yes, people would be pissed if Murdock whacked a paper&#8217;s editorial staff for being too liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: saint_al</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500489</link>
		<dc:creator>saint_al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way newspapers are dying off, this union move may be too little image control, too late. 
Sounds like a lousy investment for the fund. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way newspapers are dying off, this union move may be too little image control, too late.<br />
Sounds like a lousy investment for the fund. </p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501257</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be seeing you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be seeing you</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500490</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacking public service unions -- not just for Republicans anymore, I guess. At one time, progressives were incensed that Reagan screwed over the air traffic controllers and felt solidarity for those serving the public.

Also -- as a current San Diegan, I can assure you the Trib under its former owners was a horrible right-wing rag -- when it criticized cops, it didn&#039;t do so out of any civil rights angle -- it criticized them, just like it criticized teachers, because they actually wanted a living wage with decent benefits. Really, the only direction the Trib can go these days is up.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attacking public service unions &#8212; not just for Republicans anymore, I guess. At one time, progressives were incensed that Reagan screwed over the air traffic controllers and felt solidarity for those serving the public.</p>
<p>Also &#8212; as a current San Diegan, I can assure you the Trib under its former owners was a horrible right-wing rag &#8212; when it criticized cops, it didn&#8217;t do so out of any civil rights angle &#8212; it criticized them, just like it criticized teachers, because they actually wanted a living wage with decent benefits. Really, the only direction the Trib can go these days is up.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501259</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;label&quot; is lazy. Something pasted on to avoid the work of seeing and understanding. Just see things as they are. When you see things as they are, they may have Names.

Calling something &quot;right wing&quot; or &quot;left wing&quot; is only a shorthand to summon defense or attack. Go read Breakfast of Champions again, it will help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;label&#8221; is lazy. Something pasted on to avoid the work of seeing and understanding. Just see things as they are. When you see things as they are, they may have Names.</p>
<p>Calling something &#8220;right wing&#8221; or &#8220;left wing&#8221; is only a shorthand to summon defense or attack. Go read Breakfast of Champions again, it will help.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hale</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501265</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you&#039;re right - I just wanted a little fun.  I work with people a lot and I discovered long ago how quickly someone can instantly like/dislike you if you happen to disagree with them politically. I&#039;ve seen sweet little old ladies snarl and hiss when, on asking, they find out you&#039;re voting for that horrible man that wants to take her retirement checks away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you&#8217;re right &#8211; I just wanted a little fun.  I work with people a lot and I discovered long ago how quickly someone can instantly like/dislike you if you happen to disagree with them politically. I&#8217;ve seen sweet little old ladies snarl and hiss when, on asking, they find out you&#8217;re voting for that horrible man that wants to take her retirement checks away.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501267</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Left&#039; and &#039;right&#039; are totally useless labels, as are &#039;conservative&#039; and &#039;liberal&#039;. I&#039;m opposed to the death penalty but think that we should have longer jail sentences for violent offenders. Am I on the left or the right on that issue? I want to conserve nature. Does that make me a conservative? There are lots of people who ally with conservatives on fiscal matters and with liberals on social issues. There are lots of people who have absolutely no opinion on some issues, which I think is just hunky dory, but seems to horrify political proselytizers. We should dispense with political parties and elect leaders based on their ideas, not their alignments. It&#039;s just tribalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Left&#8217; and &#8216;right&#8217; are totally useless labels, as are &#8216;conservative&#8217; and &#8216;liberal&#8217;. I&#8217;m opposed to the death penalty but think that we should have longer jail sentences for violent offenders. Am I on the left or the right on that issue? I want to conserve nature. Does that make me a conservative? There are lots of people who ally with conservatives on fiscal matters and with liberals on social issues. There are lots of people who have absolutely no opinion on some issues, which I think is just hunky dory, but seems to horrify political proselytizers. We should dispense with political parties and elect leaders based on their ideas, not their alignments. It&#8217;s just tribalism.</p>
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		<title>By: demidan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500521</link>
		<dc:creator>demidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ grimc

Just because stated the stated reason was that the Editorial staff was belittling the Union employees doesn&#039;t mean that is the truth.  They could could have said anything and still asked for the same results.  Yes Police, Firemen, and other city workers have a hard job and deserve their pay but to fire the people who criticize them is not going to raise their pay, it&#039;s just going to silence the reporting of some of their bad deeds. 

So,,,with firing the parasites for calling you parasites you get that added bonus; liberal use of tazers and batons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ grimc</p>
<p>Just because stated the stated reason was that the Editorial staff was belittling the Union employees doesn&#8217;t mean that is the truth.  They could could have said anything and still asked for the same results.  Yes Police, Firemen, and other city workers have a hard job and deserve their pay but to fire the people who criticize them is not going to raise their pay, it&#8217;s just going to silence the reporting of some of their bad deeds. </p>
<p>So,,,with firing the parasites for calling you parasites you get that added bonus; liberal use of tazers and batons.</p>
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		<title>By: tizroc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500778</link>
		<dc:creator>tizroc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30,

The assertion is correct, and the fact that the arm (police) that breaks the back of many unions in fact has a union is one of the universes great jokes. That the police expect people to respect their union while helping others rent other unions limb from limb is a travesty that displays nothing but the true motivations of police policy in the United States. 

They are the policy enforcers of the rich, and powerful. They receive preferential treatment and a free hand on enforcement in exchange for turning on their own. Most laws passed to assist in policing our streets seem to be geared at removing the rights of the many, while making ineffectual gestures at the law breakers. I took the two year course at a community college in Law Enforcement as an â€œOpposition study courseâ€. It was geared entirely to circumventing laws, and the Constitution to enforce local policy. Period. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30,</p>
<p>The assertion is correct, and the fact that the arm (police) that breaks the back of many unions in fact has a union is one of the universes great jokes. That the police expect people to respect their union while helping others rent other unions limb from limb is a travesty that displays nothing but the true motivations of police policy in the United States. </p>
<p>They are the policy enforcers of the rich, and powerful. They receive preferential treatment and a free hand on enforcement in exchange for turning on their own. Most laws passed to assist in policing our streets seem to be geared at removing the rights of the many, while making ineffectual gestures at the law breakers. I took the two year course at a community college in Law Enforcement as an â€œOpposition study courseâ€. It was geared entirely to circumventing laws, and the Constitution to enforce local policy. Period. </p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500786</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh! Time was they would talk about the difficulty the police had with the ethnic Chinese immigrant community in getting them to report crimes, coming from  &quot;a society where the police were viewed as security guards for the rich&quot;. Heh! Who laughing now, stupid gweilo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh! Time was they would talk about the difficulty the police had with the ethnic Chinese immigrant community in getting them to report crimes, coming from  &#8220;a society where the police were viewed as security guards for the rich&#8221;. Heh! Who laughing now, stupid gweilo?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500789</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is absolutely possible for public servants to be paid excessively.  It is a public &lt;b&gt;service&lt;/b&gt; to point out how much they&#039;re collecting for salary, overtime, benefits, and pensions.  I don&#039;t care that they are &quot;putting their lives on the line&quot;, especially since it has been statistically proven that police work and FD work are not really that much more dangerous than a lot of other fields.  and I am particularly appalled at how many of them retire on &quot;disability&quot; when they are demonstrably not really physically disabled.  It&#039;s a public trough from which they&#039;re feeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is absolutely possible for public servants to be paid excessively.  It is a public <b>service</b> to point out how much they&#8217;re collecting for salary, overtime, benefits, and pensions.  I don&#8217;t care that they are &#8220;putting their lives on the line&#8221;, especially since it has been statistically proven that police work and FD work are not really that much more dangerous than a lot of other fields.  and I am particularly appalled at how many of them retire on &#8220;disability&#8221; when they are demonstrably not really physically disabled.  It&#8217;s a public trough from which they&#8217;re feeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501050</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;left and right&quot; are sufficiently abused as to be useless. Plenty of idiocy on both &quot;sides&quot;.  I&#039;ll have no truck with such unhelpful labels.

As to &quot;bias&quot;, bias must be insupportable to be bias. If a position is based on truth, it isn&#039;t bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;left and right&#8221; are sufficiently abused as to be useless. Plenty of idiocy on both &#8220;sides&#8221;.  I&#8217;ll have no truck with such unhelpful labels.</p>
<p>As to &#8220;bias&#8221;, bias must be insupportable to be bias. If a position is based on truth, it isn&#8217;t bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500545</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who knows journalism knows that this is par for the course.  Owners are always leaning on papers to push their editorial positions, and often as ham-handedly.

The onus always lies on the paper to push back.  Papers have been owned by self-interested dickheads since day one; and since day one, editors and journalists have had to stand their ground.  Not much to see here unless the Trib actually starts cutting back their police criticism, or actually fires any editorial writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who knows journalism knows that this is par for the course.  Owners are always leaning on papers to push their editorial positions, and often as ham-handedly.</p>
<p>The onus always lies on the paper to push back.  Papers have been owned by self-interested dickheads since day one; and since day one, editors and journalists have had to stand their ground.  Not much to see here unless the Trib actually starts cutting back their police criticism, or actually fires any editorial writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-500802</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yessir! done kilt another one in the hot box!
http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation_world/20090520_ap_arizinmatediesafterhoursinoutdoorcell.html?referrer=digg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yessir! done kilt another one in the hot box!<br />
<a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation_world/20090520_ap_arizinmatediesafterhoursinoutdoorcell.html?referrer=digg" rel="nofollow">http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation_world/20090520_ap_arizinmatediesafterhoursinoutdoorcell.html?referrer=digg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>parasites?  more like predators</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parasites?  more like predators</p>
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		<title>By: IamInnocent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501321</link>
		<dc:creator>IamInnocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya-ya-ya, sure, wiggle all you want: I still think that, at the very least, I was in the ballpark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya-ya-ya, sure, wiggle all you want: I still think that, at the very least, I was in the ballpark.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Jonathan Badger&#039;s post.  The Union-Tribune has been owned by a wealthy local family for as long as I can remember and the editorial board has been moderately to very conservative the whole time.  When the confluence of forces that are killing the newspaper industry are combined with an editorial board whose opinions are farther and farther from local mainstream opinion, it&#039;s not surprising that the owners decided to sell.   So for all these years the editorial board has been speaking for the benefit of the previous owners - corporations and wealthy individuals, but now that there&#039;s a new owner the rules have changed?
It&#039;s not about the paper reporting on issues - it&#039;s about the editorials using the public employee unions as an excuse for the problems we&#039;re having with San Diego&#039;s budget.  The city council was majority Republican when the deal was made with the unions back when it would benefit the city (saving money in the short term) and then subsequently the council underfunded the pension fund for years.  Now the bill has come due and they want to reneg.  (and unfortunately, the City of San Diego elected to not participate in social security because they thought they could do it better - no s.s. benefits for city employees)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Jonathan Badger&#8217;s post.  The Union-Tribune has been owned by a wealthy local family for as long as I can remember and the editorial board has been moderately to very conservative the whole time.  When the confluence of forces that are killing the newspaper industry are combined with an editorial board whose opinions are farther and farther from local mainstream opinion, it&#8217;s not surprising that the owners decided to sell.   So for all these years the editorial board has been speaking for the benefit of the previous owners &#8211; corporations and wealthy individuals, but now that there&#8217;s a new owner the rules have changed?<br />
It&#8217;s not about the paper reporting on issues &#8211; it&#8217;s about the editorials using the public employee unions as an excuse for the problems we&#8217;re having with San Diego&#8217;s budget.  The city council was majority Republican when the deal was made with the unions back when it would benefit the city (saving money in the short term) and then subsequently the council underfunded the pension fund for years.  Now the bill has come due and they want to reneg.  (and unfortunately, the City of San Diego elected to not participate in social security because they thought they could do it better &#8211; no s.s. benefits for city employees)</p>
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		<title>By: IamInnocent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501066</link>
		<dc:creator>IamInnocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tak: as you wish. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stop agreeing with me!</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/05/22/la-cop-union-buys-st.html#comment-501326</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let the record show, let the record show Mr. Chairman, that the poster styling himself as &quot;Innocent&quot; openly admits to frequenting ballparks. Ballparks that the House Committee has found in the past to harbour fellow travellers! Just answer the questions &quot;Innocent&quot;, just answer the questions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let the record show, let the record show Mr. Chairman, that the poster styling himself as &#8220;Innocent&#8221; openly admits to frequenting ballparks. Ballparks that the House Committee has found in the past to harbour fellow travellers! Just answer the questions &#8220;Innocent&#8221;, just answer the questions!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan Badger: I support all genuine working class unions including public service unions.  This solidarity extends to fire fighters, teachers, city maintenance workers, etc.

I support the union movement, hardcore.  I was there night and day at the Republic Windows factory occupation.  I&#039;ve gotten fired for organising.  I serve on a national (volunteer) board for a campaign.  I&#039;ve been sanctioned for refusing to take a job that would have crossed a picket line.  Solidarity Forever!

That said, my solidarity does not extend to cops.  I don&#039;t care if they have a &quot;union&quot;.  They have been the enemy of the working class movement from day one and don&#039;t deserve our support.  They defend scabs.  They assault and kill strikers.  They enforce a whole host of laws made by and for the bosses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Badger: I support all genuine working class unions including public service unions.  This solidarity extends to fire fighters, teachers, city maintenance workers, etc.</p>
<p>I support the union movement, hardcore.  I was there night and day at the Republic Windows factory occupation.  I&#8217;ve gotten fired for organising.  I serve on a national (volunteer) board for a campaign.  I&#8217;ve been sanctioned for refusing to take a job that would have crossed a picket line.  Solidarity Forever!</p>
<p>That said, my solidarity does not extend to cops.  I don&#8217;t care if they have a &#8220;union&#8221;.  They have been the enemy of the working class movement from day one and don&#8217;t deserve our support.  They defend scabs.  They assault and kill strikers.  They enforce a whole host of laws made by and for the bosses.</p>
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		<title>By: grimc</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@demidan

&lt;i&gt;it&#039;s just going to silence the reporting of some of their bad deeds. &lt;/i&gt;

Newspaper editorials aren&#039;t reporting. They&#039;re editorializing. That&#039;s why they&#039;re in a section all their own. And it&#039;s not about &quot;belittling&quot; the union. &lt;b&gt;The Trib has been calling for pay and benefits cuts.&lt;/b&gt; Something quite different than name calling.

And Jonathan Badger has it right: The Trib has long been rightwing fishwrap. This wouldn&#039;t be dissimilar to the SEIU gaining some ownership control of the WSJ and shaking up the fascist fever swamp of its OpEd section. Would as many BBers complain about that? Probably not.</description>
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<p><i>it&#8217;s just going to silence the reporting of some of their bad deeds. </i></p>
<p>Newspaper editorials aren&#8217;t reporting. They&#8217;re editorializing. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re in a section all their own. And it&#8217;s not about &#8220;belittling&#8221; the union. <b>The Trib has been calling for pay and benefits cuts.</b> Something quite different than name calling.</p>
<p>And Jonathan Badger has it right: The Trib has long been rightwing fishwrap. This wouldn&#8217;t be dissimilar to the SEIU gaining some ownership control of the WSJ and shaking up the fascist fever swamp of its OpEd section. Would as many BBers complain about that? Probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: IamInnocent</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no free press, there never has and there never will be. Every owner of any media can and does decide what the ideological and editorial politic will be.

What makes life so inextricably complicated is our need to pass for reality the illusions that we seek to fit our ambitions, prejudice, desires... We chose the news we get accordingly. For example, it is no accident if we are here on BB: we know that it stands to the left, inasmuch as there is something like that in American  politic, and that comforts us. 

Anyone who believe that anything at all is the press is objective, factual, unbiased is deluding oneself; anyone who believes that anyone is interested in hard facts, in reality even is deluding oneself even more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no free press, there never has and there never will be. Every owner of any media can and does decide what the ideological and editorial politic will be.</p>
<p>What makes life so inextricably complicated is our need to pass for reality the illusions that we seek to fit our ambitions, prejudice, desires&#8230; We chose the news we get accordingly. For example, it is no accident if we are here on BB: we know that it stands to the left, inasmuch as there is something like that in American  politic, and that comforts us. </p>
<p>Anyone who believe that anything at all is the press is objective, factual, unbiased is deluding oneself; anyone who believes that anyone is interested in hard facts, in reality even is deluding oneself even more so.</p>
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		<title>By: cosanostradamus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.
Isn&#039;t this pretty much what Rupert Murdoch did recently with the Wall Street Journal?

Oh, no, right, they always agreed with him and supported everything he did. No need to fire them. Speaking of wh*res &amp; censorship, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog-me-no-blogs.blogspot.com/2009/05/political-whores-decry-imaginary-pimps.html&quot;&gt;Craigslist prosecutor never prosecutes actual ho&#039;s.&lt;/a&gt; And there&#039;s a LOT of them in his State&#039;s Yellow Pages!

Guess he&#039;s more of an online john. Oh, wait, the Yellow Pages are online too!

Ah, technology...
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Isn&#8217;t this pretty much what Rupert Murdoch did recently with the Wall Street Journal?</p>
<p>Oh, no, right, they always agreed with him and supported everything he did. No need to fire them. Speaking of wh*res &#038; censorship, <a href="http://blog-me-no-blogs.blogspot.com/2009/05/political-whores-decry-imaginary-pimps.html">Craigslist prosecutor never prosecutes actual ho&#8217;s.</a> And there&#8217;s a LOT of them in his State&#8217;s Yellow Pages!</p>
<p>Guess he&#8217;s more of an online john. Oh, wait, the Yellow Pages are online too!</p>
<p>Ah, technology&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: Bray_beast</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely ridiculous!
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think news media should not be allowed to be owned by other corporations to prevent these conflict of interest situations.</description>
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		<title>By: mackenzi</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sick of cheap stakes.</description>
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		<title>By: dainel</title>
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		<description>The union president is only imagining that his union is part owner in the paper. It isn&#039;t.

Platinum Equity bought the paper. Platinum has received &quot;$30M in investment from the police and firefighters pension funds&quot;. Not the union. Platinum  also has investments from other pension funds.

If that&#039;s a letter from the union president to Platinum&#039;s ceo, and nobody at Platinum has contacted the paper about this matter, how did we get to hear of this letter? Was it &quot;leaked&quot; by the union because Platinum seems to be doing nothing about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The union president is only imagining that his union is part owner in the paper. It isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Platinum Equity bought the paper. Platinum has received &#8220;$30M in investment from the police and firefighters pension funds&#8221;. Not the union. Platinum  also has investments from other pension funds.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s a letter from the union president to Platinum&#8217;s ceo, and nobody at Platinum has contacted the paper about this matter, how did we get to hear of this letter? Was it &#8220;leaked&#8221; by the union because Platinum seems to be doing nothing about it?</p>
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		<title>By: js7a</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh like that isn&#039;t going to backfire.  Clearly some cops have been raiding the evidence locker.</description>
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